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SmokehtheFirst
08-18-2007, 10:15 AM
I'll just get straight on with the point, here. 10, 20 years from now, we WILL be able to make video games look real. We'll be able to put a human in a video game and make it look real-life. However, that might not be a good thing--part of the gaming is the surreal element to it, so the question is:

When that time comes around, will you still buy video games?

FableB
08-18-2007, 10:25 AM
Can't tell for sure, for there is the element of growth, which means that games might get out of my interest, whether they achieved real-life status or not. But if my mood for gaming remains, then yes I would probably buy games.

MasterNeilson
08-18-2007, 10:28 AM
Hells yeah!!

It'll be like the matrix or something, where us gamers, are the only hope for earth to survive..

We must unite fellow gamers, we must be bold, we are the only ones that stand in the face of evil, we are....

The League Of Extrodinary Gamers!!

Nah, i'm just messin.. Forgive the madness..

the_assassin_07
08-18-2007, 11:05 AM
Oh..... I was already writing a story about how we must unite! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif. But seirously that's a good question Smoke. That's exactly what I was thinking!! I was thinking if they make games look like real life then the thing that makes gaming so good would be gone (the made up things). Sure I would probably still buy games but it's just..... well you know if it's photo realistic then... well you know what I'm talking about!

chewie1890
08-18-2007, 11:21 AM
My dis-belief in 'real' graphics aside, I doubt I would ever stop gaming.

Just because things reach photo realism doesn't mean we would lose the sense of wonder from games. I think it would just be another element in a truly immersing game. We could have realistic graphics, but still have the elements that make it fun, magic, the force, sword fighting, bullet-time, and simply becoming another person for a while.

I think if games ever had good enough graphics to be photo-realistic then the game-play for games would have to be upped. Majorly. I personally don't think that the graphics not being photo realistic adds in a 'surreal' element per se, I think it's the fact that you're being a different person and doing things you would never do in real life that makes it surreal.

So to sum it all up. I won't stop buying games.

Phreaky_McGeek
08-18-2007, 11:22 AM
I just hope that when that age comes, developers will still use cell shading or other styled graphics.

the_assassin_07
08-18-2007, 11:30 AM
My dis-belief in 'real' graphics aside, I doubt I would ever stop gaming.

Just because things reach photo realism doesn't mean we would lose the sense of wonder from games. I think it would just be another element in a truly immersing game. We could have realistic graphics, but still have the elements that make it fun, magic, the force, sword fighting, bullet-time, and simply becoming another person for a while.

I think if games ever had good enough graphics to be photo-realistic then the game-play for games would have to be upped. Majorly. I personally don't think that the graphics not being photo realistic adds in a 'surreal' element per se, I think it's the fact that you're being a different person and doing things you would never do in real life that makes it surreal.

So to sum it all up. I won't stop buying games.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif Yeah, but I just can't imagine playing a photo-realistic game. I'm not saying it's a bad thing it's just it would be weird....

moqqy
08-18-2007, 12:08 PM
when the day comes that video games will be just like real life.. many people would only eat&sleep in real life. if you could have everything perfect in a video game, why would you go back to poorness IRL? ( that is, if it's a "matrix" like game, not a game played on screen.)

but why would the thing be gone that makes video games good? heck, video games would be super fun. imagine it. ever wanted super powers? well, in a game that realistic you could feel EXACTLY like you had them...

Boromir323
08-18-2007, 12:51 PM
I plan to play video games till the day I die.

MasterNeilson
08-18-2007, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Boromir323:
I plan to play video games till the day I die.

Well Spoken, that's the attitude we need on the battlefield soldier!!

Robbinho1992
08-18-2007, 01:55 PM
I cant wait untill virtual reality where you play the game using the mind....The technology had alrady begun to be made...its only a matter of time. Play while you sleep!

Make yourm Dreams a REality.

kppgno80
08-18-2007, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Robbinho1992:
I cant wait untill virtual reality where you play the game using the mind....The technology had alrady begun to be made...its only a matter of time. Play while you sleep!

Make yourm Dreams a REality.

They already got that, its called Lucid Dreaming

MasterNeilson
08-18-2007, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by kppgno80:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Robbinho1992:
I cant wait untill virtual reality where you play the game using the mind....The technology had alrady begun to be made...its only a matter of time. Play while you sleep!

Make yourm Dreams a REality.

They already got that, its called Lucid Dreaming </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No matter how good technology gets, it's never better than natural dreaming, but i guess it's a good idea, saving the world while you sleep, be careful though, one day technology will get so good you'll be living in a virtual land, and you did'nt even realise, just like neo in the matrix.

Robbinho1992
08-18-2007, 02:09 PM
The Thing is, I live the Matrix, and would love to be there and be able to impossible things. Pretty good life for me.

drfeelgood8849
08-18-2007, 02:12 PM
technology will be the downfall of humanity so i say dont advance too much

GPNM
08-18-2007, 02:20 PM
It would be f-ing awesome to play with photorealistic graphics.

Instead of someone's "idea" of what something is supposed to look like, it would look like what it's supposed to look like. The potential experience of playing in a photo-realistic environment is indescribable. That would truly let you do things within the game that you would love to see done in real life. (24 person deathmatch with photo-real graphics...total pwn@ge)

x_101_
08-18-2007, 02:23 PM
But if you think about it if no-ones going to want super realistic games, then they wont make them super realistic just at the perfect point of realism for games.

GPNM
08-18-2007, 02:26 PM
There's a difference between a game having photo-realistic graphics, and being completely realistic in terms of gameplay.

Obviously you don't want a game where you will get killed from a single shot to the gut...

But a game where getting shot in the gut leaves a nasty bullet hole that looks more than just a black spot on a wall.

x_101_
08-18-2007, 02:29 PM
I'm cool with the physics and action-reaction kinda stuff, just not the photo realistic stuff coz that would make it less of a video game for me.

BBQ-Chicken
08-18-2007, 03:19 PM
This will be freakin awesome! Imagine playing virtual Assassin's Creed. omg, imagine stabbing someone with your blade virtually. Insane...

Hmmm, when I think about it, I get to think that if they make violent games they will be almost murder simulators. Like if you play Assassin's Creed and it looks photo realistic, and it is virtual, then wouldn't it be just like you are murdering someone over and over? I think games would get to be too graphic for me and a lot of others. If they do virtual I just hope the graphics aren't totally realistic, and I doubt a lot of people would play them because of how graphic it would be.

SCARFACE_47
08-18-2007, 03:21 PM
yes, no discussion
i only accept THIS KIND OF NO:
no i will stop because i attend to die when i played assassins creed to the end, because i will die happy

Shadowriderj
08-22-2007, 01:56 PM
A virtual game where I can go inside would be awsome its like, yah im going to the bar. Load up an rpg step into the tavern and get a drink.

ScytheOfGrim
08-22-2007, 02:01 PM
nah... i wouldnt want any sort of gun type game to go photo-realistic... but if it's like dynasty warriors, hordes of enemies coming your way, and you're armed with a spear, now there's a work-out... *drool drool drool*

but i think nintendo will keep other companies behind because they are the origin of innovation, yet they won't go "ultimate" with their graphics, thus making sony and microsoft have to stick to the level of detail that they can come up with, while those ingenious nintendo b*st*rds take their time makng amazing games with the usual graphics... and this will continue untill the world ends... XD

the_assassin_07
08-22-2007, 02:19 PM
Imagine how it would be playing with photo-realistic graphics... *drool*... Cool..

ifiwerearichman
08-22-2007, 02:59 PM
In my opinion graphics don't define a game, gameplay does. I'll continue to play games regardless of how much of an eye candy the visuals are so long as the gameplay is surreal and engaging. I think the bigger issue for video games is the fact that many people play sports games as a substitute to exercise and with obesity on the rise, its only gonna get worse.

Skaevola
08-22-2007, 04:58 PM
This is one of my family's biggest theories, or sciences we follow, or whatever you wanna call it. Everyone in my family from my great-grandparents all the way down to me, since the late seventies, has been Wetware: the computer in the mind.

And finally, after forty years, it's starting to become a reality. There's a documentary (you can probably find it floating around the internet somewhere) that shows an old parylized guy moving things around on a computer screen with his mind. It's... kinda creepy (:P).

Anyway, it won't ruin immersion, because it's basically a high-powered illusion. You can still shoot fireballs from your hands, still run on walls and jump fifteen feet, etc. Except you'd be inside the game. I want to play an MMO like that! I'd be able to blindside stupid NPCs with my full-body movement!
The only downside is that someone does actually have to plant a chip directly into your brain, which would render your brain vulnerable. Imagine getting a virus or a hundred spyware programs inside your brain. Not fun.

It's not finished yet, far from it. But we have something to look forward to.

bump2007
08-22-2007, 05:33 PM
In 10 years the earth will be taken over by aliens.

SmokehtheFirst
08-22-2007, 06:09 PM
In ten years you'll be in a mental institution, so let's not say stupid things and try to stay on topic, mm'yes?

MrMoo333
08-22-2007, 09:22 PM
the only thing i would like to look real, would be most textures, but i would HATE if it was all perfect and **** like that, the farthest i would go is like an even better version of the ever popular HAlf-Life 2 games, or a Bioshock extreme, its got the same scratchy effect that gamers look for in a video game: Animation! and not like movable photos, or a manipulative movie

Lizard000
08-23-2007, 03:07 PM
Imagine being able to split open someones guts and everything falls out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

i've made my point http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

SCARFACE_47
08-23-2007, 04:04 PM
yeah but think now
even with ps2 it was possible to see some guts floating around (manhunt I FINSIHER)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=PGuhX5AmjuA
but not all peopl would like a game where you only run around SENSELESS killing and bombing people
this would be like hostel - the game
your point is true indeed with what consoles can show on screen but is it just that senseless splattergames ain´t fun

bump2007
08-23-2007, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by SmokehtheFirst:
In ten years you'll be in a mental institution, so let's not say stupid things and try to stay on topic, mm'yes?

I am on topic, I am letting you know that in 10 years we will discover intelligent life and they will take us over for invading their privacy. When it happens, don't say you didn't see it coming.

yonut2oo5
08-23-2007, 07:26 PM
wouldn`t it be cool playing with you mind only , i would suggest a game something like The Shield if you know the show , when you are a cop , a dirty cop or a bad-guy , and i would totaly like the thing of being killed with one gun shot depending on where it hit you , it could be a great Online game , where you could play with your best friend wich you trust but in the game you won`t trust him that much , and when you die the character dies , and have to start again with a new character and build your reputation again etc. I think you know what i mean http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Criscokilika
08-23-2007, 07:51 PM
Graphics aren't everything, but to me they are about 50% of the gameplay experience. I think games have already took the first step into mastering the art of graphics. BTW, Unreal 4 engine is coming out in a few years!

tailstriker
08-24-2007, 01:58 AM
gameplay > graphics.

if i wanted something that looked nice, i woulda bought a painting or something.

yonut2oo5
08-24-2007, 03:00 AM
Storyline > gameplay > graphics.
the graphic is the last because , 10 years ago you didn`t care about the grafics in the game to much , you just enjoyed the game if it had good gameplay and storyline.

the_assassin_07
08-24-2007, 03:04 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif. But I think gameplay comes before storyline. The storyline is very important but what's the point if you have a great storyline but rubbish gameplay?

ScytheOfGrim
08-24-2007, 03:28 AM
yup. the assassin is right.

for example, mercenaries 1, the storyline, to be honest, sucked. nobody payed any attention to it. all we cared about was blowing stuff up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

and you also have dynasty warriors. sure it's a nice feature that you get to play through every characters military career highlights, but nobody cares for that when you're zhang fei on a bridge taking out 5 guys with every stroke of your serpentine blade!

and since i mentioned koei and dynasty warriors, i think it is time for me to apolagize. yes, apolagize. something i don't often do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

i just saw this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilo6wSEpXYU)and my jaw literally dropped... dynasty warriors 6! here i come!!!!!!! look at the number of people at one time on the screen with absolutely NO FOG!!! *drool drool drool* and lubu's weapon is awesome!!!! and zhao yun looks amazing!!! and there seems to be a new combo engine! look at zhao yun leg-lock a guy and take out everyone around him!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

wow... off topic there...

the_assassin_07
08-24-2007, 03:35 AM
yup. the assassin is right.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif DO YOU REALISE WHAT THIS MEANS!? IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN RIGHT!!! lol anyway Mercenaries' storyline was just.... was there even a storyline!? But it was a still a good game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

and since i mentioned koei and dynasty warriors, i think it is time for me to apolagize. yes, apolagize. something i don't often do

You apologized http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif. Wow... Anyway back on T I will never stop playing games even if they make the graphics photo-realistic. That would make the game even cooler!

ScytheOfGrim
08-24-2007, 03:38 AM
i wouldn't mind being a bobblehead kicking other bobblehead butt... i quite like the idea in fact... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

WANT SOME MORE?! HERE HAVE SOME MORE!!!

Clonage2006
08-24-2007, 03:50 AM
I don't know about you guy's countries, but here in England people are already blaming violent games for the violent actions of people in real life. To be honest, I'm not sure if games really can induce people to commit, let's say, hitman style murders, but imagine the uproar that these so called 'specialists' who blame games for real-life violence would have about a photo realistic game? The point I'm trying to make is, that if an un-graphical-realisticness (if that makes sense) game like Grand Theft Auto can make people go off the rails and shoot people, what's to stop such people from getting confused between the game and real life? If the game does indeed look real, it might be a case of people not being able to tell the difference, and going on a killing spree in real life, rather than in Grand Theft Auto IX for example. And if anything like THAT did happen, games could get banned, and if anyone tried to make a game in the future, they would not go forward and advance graphics as they do now, but instead go backwards, and we might have to live the pong age all over again. (NOES!)

I know the last bit is a bit pessimistic and a worse case scenario, but with the way sceptics of games are now, who knows what could happen?

(towards the end of writing this, I realised that a super realistic game could still have a HUD for gameplay factor, this kinda throws my point about confusing out of the window, but I Beleive it is still possible)

SCARFACE_47
08-24-2007, 03:53 AM
usually extrem actions like ripping of sombody´s arms to beat them with their own limbs is not the mainpart of the game, but it is something diffrent and due to that fact most people pay only attention to that
i loved true crime new york, though it ran soooooooo slow on ps2
a game that is 100% about sensless bloodstorms will nevr be cool, like sniper elite, but a game that gives you the ability to be brutal like hell and somehow catch your eye for having great story/engine etc will be awesome (silent hill, hitman ...)

SloppyCracker
08-24-2007, 03:55 AM
^ Come on future! I'm gonna SLAP you with my N64!

Dragonfire0707
08-25-2007, 09:29 PM
I'm a gamer, will be till I die. It's the one thing that you can always do and not get bored. It is like interactive reading, you can go anywhere, anyplace. I would love for a virtual reality game, and if that is around in my lifetime I think the very first game made like that should be a zombie game. That would be intense. In my opinion, virtual reality games would be just like being an actor. You get to escape reality for a while and pretend that anything is real. That is entertainment. Another thing that would be cool, is that if virtual reality games involved going within your mind, think about the capabilities of time. The human brain is capable of thinking so quickly, it performs hundreds of tasks and thoughs a second. Think about if you could comprehend a game that quickly, thirty minutes inside your mind of playing a game could become the equivalent of like thirty seconds in reality. People could play for hours, even when they only have like thirty minutes till they have to go to work or something. That would be heaven.

DeAdLy2323
08-26-2007, 06:49 AM
watch the movie The 13th floor.....