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b2spirita
01-19-2008, 10:03 AM
Has anyone tried the free alternatives, freetrack, freelook. Id like track ir but cant justify shelling out ridiculous amounts of moneay as im saving for a guitar, so has anyone had any experience and reccomendations?
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birdy1964
01-19-2008, 10:13 AM
~S~ b2spirita
Have a look at this recording and see what you think of the free tracker system, i will attach images of hardware i made using this system. I'm not very good at this il2 game but I hope this will give you some idea of what is possible. Best wishes Birdy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
video link, http://www.zshare.net/download/37041283c56c6c/
http://www.zshare.net/image/43023205be7da4/
http://www.zshare.net/image/4302260c2c9481/
http://www.zshare.net/image/43023492226909/
http://www.zshare.net/image/430239632e3f27/
http://www.zshare.net/download/43029750f0f2b1/

Uufflakke
01-19-2008, 10:17 AM
Hi b2spirita,
Yesterday there was another question about TrackIR 3 or 4 for IL2.
I advised him to make his own headtracker and using the Freetrack software. It will cost you just a few dollars for a 1.5 Volt battery, a LEDlight and a cable and off course a simple lowbudget webcam.
IL2 just supports 2DOF so thats even easier to make. On Freetrack you will see some examples of other users and their headtrackers mounted on a cap or on their headphone.
I'm very clumsy when it comes to electricity and connections and stuff but this was something I could handle. It really works and I'm still satisfied about it.
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b2spirita
01-19-2008, 10:26 AM
thanks for the prompt replies guys. I think i heard about using the circuit from a tv remote earlier..........

looks like ill go with free track then!

anyway ill check back later

thanks again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

bigbossmalone
01-19-2008, 10:35 AM
I can also highly recommend freetrack as a viable alternative to TiR. In fact, I'm that happy with it that I can't see myself forking out all that extra dosh for TiR.
Give it a go, it's a bit tricky to set up initially, but also quite nice in that you can play around with the settings until you're happy with the results.

zardozid
01-19-2008, 10:46 AM
I tried both of the free programs you spoke of...and if you don't mind fiddling with them you could get them to work. I got tired of fiddling with them and bought "TrackIR 4pro"... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

b2spirita
01-20-2008, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by zardozid:
I tried both of the free programs you spoke of...and if you don't mind fiddling with them you could get them to work. I got tired of fiddling with them and bought "TrackIR 4pro"... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



Nice though Track IR undoubtedly is, i just cant justify buying it. Its just too much, the lowest ive seen it is around 70 ($140 i think offhand) and thats just way too much for ultimately what is possible to do for free

Spinnetti
01-20-2008, 08:44 AM
Just eBay a Trackir 1...

I bought it when it came out, and 5 computers later am still using the same one. It works great. You could always buy mine so I have an excuse to get a new one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Actually, since I'm on an iMac, I'd like to try out the webcam stuff since its built in to the computer anyway (and I hate extra clutter), just haven't gotten around to trying it.

b2spirita
01-20-2008, 08:48 AM
how much you thinking spinnetti? oh and where do you live, for postage--- im in the sunny paradice that is gibraltar
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no joy on ebay http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

LEBillfish
01-20-2008, 10:40 AM
Personally think I'm going to get TIR (though think it's great there is an alternative)....As I can just see myself hooking this thing up and as I think I'm using it to fly instead I'm simply transmitting streaming nude video of me cursing and screaming like that german boy we've all seen freaking out in his video.

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knightflyte
01-20-2008, 11:04 AM
I think there really is no substitute for Track IR, but understand financial reasons for not having it.

Here's a You Tube link to view for Free Track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNstobEAado

Aviar
01-20-2008, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
Personally think I'm going to get TIR (though think it's great there is an alternative)....As I can just see myself hooking this thing up and as I think I'm using it to fly instead I'm simply transmitting streaming nude video of me cursing and screaming like that german boy we've all seen freaking out in his video.

You fly in the nude?

Aviar

LEBillfish
01-20-2008, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Aviar:
You fly in the nude?

Aviar

don't we all?

b2spirita
01-20-2008, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aviar:
You fly in the nude?

Aviar

don't we all? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


hehe, there goes the thread hehe

cmirko
01-21-2008, 07:07 AM
http://galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu/~pajcilo/tir/index.php?page=hardware (http://galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu/%7Epajcilo/tir/index.php?page=hardware)

very nice instructions for track -ir alternative - on of my squad m8s made the webpage http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

b2spirita
01-21-2008, 09:23 AM
thanks for the link, i may try cannibalising an old remote, will that work you think???

SquidgyB
01-21-2008, 03:59 PM
if you have access to a maplin store, you can pick up a few IR LEDs for about 3 (I'm assuming your location a bit there though!)

I saved roughly 100 by making my own freetrack system, an old webcam, 3 LEDs, a few night of fiddling and a soldering iron is all it really took.

One thing that confused me when I did it was getting the webcam to run at a smooth 30fps... I found that if you use the setting on freetrack that forces the exposure to +1, that was the only setting that seems to give me a nice framerate.