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blairgowrie
01-01-2010, 02:05 PM
Continued from PART_ELEVEN:http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/5491000608?r=3181087028#3181087028

arthursmedley
01-01-2010, 02:12 PM
And in answer to L_F's question, I'll stick my parts out and say 'Stirling'.

And Mr. Dance, thankyou for all your hard work running the quiz. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Low_Flyer_MkIX
01-01-2010, 02:14 PM
Indeed it was, Mr Smedley - over to you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dance
01-01-2010, 02:20 PM
Thanks, Arthur and LF, it's been a pleasure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Somebody else's turn now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Jure_502
01-01-2010, 02:21 PM
A big thanks to you Mr. Dance also in my name, you are a legend of WWII Quiz! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

arthursmedley
01-01-2010, 03:00 PM
Thankyou L-F. Here we go, easy(ish) one;

What have Guy Gibson, Leonard Cheshire and Percy Tait got in common?

VF-17_Jolly
01-01-2010, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Jure_502:
A big thanks to you Mr. Dance also in my name, you are a legend of WWII Quiz! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Here Here! Well Played Mr D http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif Big shoes to fill

Oh and Happy New Year to All

Dance
01-01-2010, 04:36 PM
Cheers Jure and MrJ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hope the quiz continues from strength to strength. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

arthursmedley
01-02-2010, 06:23 AM
O.k, clue to make it very easy; think bomber command squadrons.

mhuxt
01-02-2010, 02:26 PM
If you mean Willie Tait (not Percy?) it was 617 Squadron.

arthursmedley
01-02-2010, 06:51 PM
Well done mhuxt http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Yes, all commanded 617 (dambusters) squadron.

Yes, I am an idiot, it was Willie Tait. I'm getting one passion, aircraft, mixed up with another; vintage motorcycles;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Tait

Over to you, mhuxt.

mhuxt
01-03-2010, 03:25 AM
Thanks, sorry for the delay. Question follows.

mhuxt
01-03-2010, 03:28 AM
To continue the theme, what other RAF squadron was inteded to carry bouncing bombs?

Rock_Kettler
01-03-2010, 10:38 AM
Only popped in for a quick look but think this one has been featured before.
Answer of course is 618 Sqn.
Intention was for Mosquito Mk IV to use the "Highball" bomb against the Tirpitz

Uufflakke
01-03-2010, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Rock_Kettler:
Only popped in for a quick look but think this one has been featured before.
Answer of course is 618 Sqn.
Intention was for Mosquito Mk IV to use the "Highball" bomb against the Tirpitz

Hey Rock_Kettler welcome back to the frontline! Haven't seen a post of you for a loooong time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
And know what? You used to be second best of the Quiz but because of your absence I became second best of 2009. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

And yes this question has been asked before. As far as I can remember I answered that one; it might have been a question from part 5 or 6.

mhuxt
01-03-2010, 12:53 PM
Morning all. That's correct Rock Kettler, you have the floor.

Rock_Kettler
01-03-2010, 02:22 PM
Thank you for welcome Uufflakke your position well earned I'm sure. Good to be back though not sure I'll be able to give this wonderful quiz the time it deserves but I'll try.

Thanks Mhuxt back in a jiffie with a question.
Pete

Rock_Kettler
01-03-2010, 02:28 PM
ID Aircraft please

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu181/2_Puff_Pete/Q87.jpg

Rock_Kettler
01-03-2010, 02:31 PM
Apologies for the glitch guys been so long I'd even forgotten how to post a picture. Its an age thing.

Daiichidoku
01-03-2010, 03:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyMnQR4bdpY

"Saro" Saunders Roe A.37 Shrimp

Rock_Kettler
01-03-2010, 04:01 PM
Thats the one Dai. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Over to you.
For completeness, (I find it interesting anyway):
After designing the S.38 four-engined patrol flying-boat to Specification R.5/39, Saro built, as a private venture, a half-scale model as the Saro A.37, often called the Shrimp. The R.5/39 programme did not go ahead, but the Saro A.37 was completed in time to make its first flight in October 1939. Powered by four 63kW Pobjoy Niagara III engines, it was later modified to have a single fin and rudder, and other features representative of the Shetland flying-boat jointly developed by Shorts and Saro. In this guise, it acquired the serial TK580, and was tested from early 1944 until after the war had ended.

Also thanks for the movie Dai http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif which is even more interesting!

Daiichidoku
01-03-2010, 04:14 PM
recognise me?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/mystery62.jpg

AndyJWest
01-03-2010, 07:08 PM
Bristol Type 142 'Britain First'

Daiichidoku
01-03-2010, 08:25 PM
all yours Andy

AndyJWest
01-03-2010, 08:34 PM
Thanks, Daiichidoku.

It's getting late, so if anyone is sure they have the answer to this, don't wait for confirmation from me, I'll probably be in the Land of Nod if I don't get an answer fairly quickly, though it may be too easy for you lot anyway...

Anyone rocognise the tail?
http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/WhatTail.jpg

Daiichidoku
01-03-2010, 08:45 PM
Martin 187 Baltimore

AndyJWest
01-03-2010, 09:00 PM
You have it, Daiichidoku. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'll have to find some harder questions before answering, next time.

Daiichidoku
01-03-2010, 10:41 PM
this is a Bf 109 G4 sporting a MG 151 type autocannon in a belly pod

anyone know why this certain installation was not used?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/mystery59.jpg

Toten_Waffe
01-04-2010, 08:13 AM
Is it something to do with not being able to eject it when needing to emergency land wheels up or is it something really daft like a lack of interupter gear taking out the prop?

Daiichidoku
01-04-2010, 08:19 AM
no mechanical interupter gear needed sir, but that fact has something to do with it unto itself

robtek1957
01-04-2010, 09:41 AM
The synchronisation and firig for the mg151 was electric.
The reason that this pod wasn't used might be his position in the slipstream of the oil-cooler, maybe affecting the air-flow?

Dance
01-04-2010, 10:15 AM
The belly pod gun couldn't use mechanical interruption, so had to use electrically primed ammunition, whereas the engine mounted gun used percussion priming. It was considered a major risk that the ammunition would be mixed up, rendering the guns useless, so they dropped the idea.

Daiichidoku
01-04-2010, 11:45 AM
nice try Robtek, you were halfway there, but Dance connects and scores

Dance
01-04-2010, 12:13 PM
Thanks Dai.

What have we here?


http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q368.jpg

Daiichidoku
01-04-2010, 12:40 PM
Mitsubishi B5M "Mabel"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/B5M_Type_97_Carrier_Attack_Bomber_Mabel_B5M-11.jpg

Dance
01-04-2010, 12:42 PM
Back to you Dai http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Daiichidoku
01-04-2010, 12:52 PM
ty Dance

who is this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/mystery63.jpg

Dance
01-04-2010, 01:05 PM
Good one, Beatrice Shilling http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Daiichidoku
01-04-2010, 02:06 PM
you must be familiar with her orifice, Dance http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dance
01-04-2010, 02:19 PM
Indeed Dai, she knew stuff.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Another I.D.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q369.jpg

Daiichidoku
01-04-2010, 02:26 PM
Meridionali [Industrie Meccaniche Aeronautiche Meridionali (IMAM)] Ro.44

Dance
01-04-2010, 02:33 PM
It's like ping pong http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Daiichidoku
01-04-2010, 02:46 PM
lol yup

i know its redundant, but nice shots so i had to post em http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

what the photographer's mount?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/HawkerTyphoonIBEK286slipsbehindthep.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/20.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/22.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/18.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/23.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/25.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/26.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/27.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/28.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/29.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
01-04-2010, 02:50 PM
Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle?


http://www.historyofaircargo.com/img/air-cargo-airmail-image-121.jpg

Daiichidoku
01-04-2010, 02:53 PM
yes indeed Jolly

VF-17_Jolly
01-04-2010, 03:06 PM
Thanks nice pics i like the one with the engine cowling off

Name the plane

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/q77.jpg

Dance
01-04-2010, 03:16 PM
Avro York?

VF-17_Jolly
01-04-2010, 03:19 PM
No sorry

RedToo
01-04-2010, 03:59 PM
Pretty sure this is a Short Stirling.

Have to go now. If I am right please can the floor be thrown open as I will not be able to post a Q. until tomorrow evening.

RedToo.

VF-17_Jolly
01-04-2010, 04:12 PM
Red too has it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif it's a Short Stirling in civilian service Transair I believe

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/5113_2.jpg

AndyJWest
01-04-2010, 07:56 PM
If nobody else is going to ask a question, here's one to keep us going.

Currently undergoing restoration, hence naked state. Too obvious if I showed much more. So what is it?
http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/WhatIsIt3.jpg

I'm off to bed, so if you're sure of the answer, carry on with the next question...

Jungmann
01-04-2010, 08:11 PM
Lysander?

AndyJWest
01-04-2010, 08:29 PM
Yes, Jungmann, you have it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

An example undergoing restoration in Canada, I believe. Evidently recognisable even while stripped to the bones...

Jungmann
01-04-2010, 09:43 PM
Thanks, AJ.

Name the airfield.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/Jungmann/il2-22.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
01-05-2010, 05:52 AM
Henderson?

Jungmann
01-05-2010, 09:41 AM
Good call, VF. I've flown this approach many times in PF.

Your go.

VF-17_Jolly
01-05-2010, 11:55 AM
It looked familiar http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif thank you

name the plane easy i think

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/q9998.jpg

Dance
01-05-2010, 12:11 PM
Kyushu Q1W Tokai

RSS-Martin
01-05-2010, 12:14 PM
Kyushu Q1W Tokai / LORNA
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Flugzeuge/Gq1w-2.jpg

RSS-Martin
01-05-2010, 12:15 PM
Ah took to long to find the picture in my photobucket is yours Dance

VF-17_Jolly
01-05-2010, 12:34 PM
Indeed MrD has it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif almost got it RSS-Martin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dance
01-05-2010, 12:54 PM
Thanks MrJ, sorry RSS http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

A quick one for you, so 'fingers on buzzers', who's this?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q370.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
01-05-2010, 01:08 PM
Richard Burton?

Daiichidoku
01-05-2010, 01:13 PM
"Uncle" Albert Kesselring

Dance
01-05-2010, 01:31 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif MrJ.

All yours Dai http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Daiichidoku
01-05-2010, 01:50 PM
who am i?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/myster11.jpg

RSS-Martin
01-05-2010, 09:55 PM
Looks a bit simular to a Hansa-Brandenburg W29
http://www.earlyaeroplanes.com/archive/1w/images/HansaBrand_3x.jpg
But the tail and the engine look a bit differant...
Darn canīt find that Japanese magazine with all the stuff on those early seaplanes. I have seen that picture before, but at the moment my material is hidden some where in the bookself... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Daiichidoku
01-05-2010, 10:37 PM
the hansa brandenbergs were ultra cool, and very capable for thier time

this one was a recon type, based off a 1926 design, floats were reconfigured in 1932 from twins to main + outriggers

2 production examples made, one ended its days near the West Indies in Feb 1942....

RSS-Martin
01-06-2010, 08:29 AM
O.k. I think I am getting closer as Hansa Brandenburg does not fit, they went out of business 1918 but their chief designer Ernst Heinkel kept on making planes....so I would tip it is either a Heinkel He1 is also listed as He2 or He4 and also under the name Svenska S.IIa.

The Svenska S.IIa was actually a Heinkel He-4 built under license from the Germans. Original Swedish factory serial number 31. Flown over from Sweden to Liepaja from September 30 - October 7, 1926. On September 28, 1932 test flown by A.Zarins after a major rebuild and then returned to service. On December 2, 1933 a commission is formed to determine No.11 airworthiness for continued service and, as a result, it was struck off.

http://pic.wpalette.com///camms/ar/152/pics/188_1.jpg

So your picture must be one of the variations of this plane?

VF-17_Jolly
01-06-2010, 08:37 AM
Marcel Besson MB.411 A submarine borne seaplane


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/21_1.jpg

I have a picture of one with a repaired tail
used by the RAF

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/whatisthis.jpg

RSS-Martin
01-06-2010, 09:29 AM
Ah thats it VF-17_Jolly!
Not that familiar with French planes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Daiichidoku
01-06-2010, 09:52 AM
yes indeed..and nice photo, too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besson_MB.411

that would be the only other 411 made, issued to Aeronavale Escadrille 7-S-4 ar St Mandrier (Toulon)


the other one as i mentioned went down in west indies, with her mother, the intriguing Surcouf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...arine_Surcouf_(N_N_3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_Surcouf_(N_N_3))
all yours Jolly

VF-17_Jolly
01-06-2010, 10:37 AM
Thanks Daiichidoku I watched a TV program about the I-400 Submarine and they mentioned the Surcouf as one of their main insparation

Ok name they plane

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/q55-1.jpg

Dance
01-06-2010, 10:41 AM
SABCA S.47

VF-17_Jolly
01-06-2010, 10:48 AM
Yes indeed MrD http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Very Japanese looking for a Belgium Design

Dance
01-06-2010, 11:01 AM
Thanks MrJ, apparently it was a development of the Caproni Ca.335 "Maestrale".

Ok here's an allegedly promising prototype that didn't make production, what is it?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q371.jpg

robtek1957
01-06-2010, 01:48 PM
Mikoyan/Gurevich I-230 (MiG-3U)

Dance
01-06-2010, 02:01 PM
Nope sorry Robtek, it's not from any well known O.K.B.

robtek1957
01-06-2010, 02:13 PM
it shure looks like a mig3 married to a yak3 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dance
01-06-2010, 02:27 PM
Looks like it but the cockpit is set even further back than that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

VF-17_Jolly
01-06-2010, 02:31 PM
It could be a Bisnovat SK-2

This is the SK-1 Racer looks simliar except the cockpit

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/sk1-1.jpg

Dance
01-06-2010, 02:59 PM
Well done MrJ, spot on, it's an SK-2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VF-17_Jolly
01-06-2010, 04:03 PM
Cheers MrDance

Who is this and what is his link to the Battle of Britain

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/qw33.jpg

blairgowrie
01-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Dat is Lawrence Olivier and he played the part of Hugh Dowding in Battle of Britain.

arthursmedley
01-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Also,in real life, one of Olivier's closest friends was an ex BoB Spitfire pilot called Hugh Neil who ran a restaurant and night club in London's theatre land in the nineteen fifties and introduced Olivier to lots of his RAF mates.

I know this because when I was a salesman for a wine merchant (stop laughing BG!!) Hugh Neil owned a hotel in North Devon and was one of my customers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

VF-17_Jolly
01-06-2010, 05:20 PM
Thats the chap blargowrie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif also a pilot in the RNVR but never saw action

blairgowrie
01-06-2010, 05:28 PM
I am not very good at this but what is this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/blairgowrie/Plane.jpg

arthursmedley
01-06-2010, 05:39 PM
Westland Wyvern?

jamesblonde1979
01-06-2010, 05:49 PM
I was going to say Supermarine Spiteful but I think Arthur is correct.

blairgowrie
01-07-2010, 05:15 AM
Take it away arthur.It is indeed a Westland Wyvern. Too bad the introduction of jets shortened it's career.

arthursmedley
01-07-2010, 06:43 AM
Cheers, BG.
Here's the one at the FAA museum at Yeovilton, a symphony in aluminium, although the guys who had to fly it off carriers apparently weren't too keen on it!
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh112/arthursmedley/Picture011.jpg

OK, whats this and for unofficial bonus points who's last design was it and what happend to the two prototypes under construction in September 1940;
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh112/arthursmedley/super1.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh112/arthursmedley/g_b12_b36_bomber_lrg1.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
01-07-2010, 07:06 AM
I think that's is the Supermarine B12/36 or type316 later 317 By R J Mitchell

They were still under construction at the Woolston Supermarine Factory when they were bombed by the Luftwaffe

That fantastic aluminium Wyvern in the picture is powered by the Rolls Royce Eagle the one in the b/w picture has a Clyde turboprop lovely plane but it amazes me why the RN took so long to convert to jets

arthursmedley
01-07-2010, 08:47 AM
VF17 Jolly, totally correct on all points. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
The Wyvern at Yeovilton has never taken to the air btw.

Over to you.

VF-17_Jolly
01-07-2010, 09:15 AM
Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif They should have put a Naiper Sabre in it the eagle was not all that just like the Vulture

ok fingers on buzzers whats this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/q453.jpg

robtek1957
01-07-2010, 10:02 AM
Consolidated B32 Dominator

VF-17_Jolly
01-07-2010, 10:49 AM
Of course http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif take it away Robtek

robtek1957
01-07-2010, 11:23 AM
Ok, lets stay easy.
identify:
http://robtek.de/quiz17.jpg

Dance
01-07-2010, 11:29 AM
Mig I-225

robtek1957
01-07-2010, 11:42 AM
Yes Mr. Dance http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
As i said a easy one, at least for some people http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
The playfield is all yours, again sic

Dance
01-07-2010, 11:46 AM
Thanks Robtek http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

What is the installation under the port wing of this Spitfire?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q372.jpg

arthursmedley
01-07-2010, 12:33 PM
Fuel tank?

Dance
01-07-2010, 12:47 PM
Yep Arthur, simple as that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif . An early attempt at improving the range. I am at a loss to understand why only one, instead of a smaller but symmetrical two tank approach? Especially because they abandoned this idea as it adversely tightened the turn on the tank side.

jamesblonde1979
01-07-2010, 01:42 PM
What genius came up with that I wonder.

They must have been pretty desperate to make a prototype of something as asinine as that.

arthursmedley
01-07-2010, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by jamesblonde1979:


They must have been pretty desperate

Yep, bonkers but the guy who thought that up didn't have to fly the 'plane!

Thankyou Dance, o.k, whats this (apologies in advance if this 'plane has featured before)?
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh112/arthursmedley/300px-Vickers_Type_4321.jpg

Dance
01-07-2010, 02:20 PM
It has been asked, but no problem Arthur, no rules or scores any more.

Daiichidoku
01-07-2010, 03:19 PM
Vickers 432

arthursmedley
01-07-2010, 03:37 PM
Well done Dai http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif over to you........

Daiichidoku
01-07-2010, 03:42 PM
ty

and now for something completely different;

how well do you know rear ends?

the winner will have the most correct answers out of 30

it is 1740 local now, i will reveal all tomorrow at 1800, that should give everyone enough time to research and answer

please post only "final" answers, no cheating and adhusting your post after seeing someone else's!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/tails_1.jpg

Dance
01-07-2010, 03:50 PM
Lol, can't be assed.

Daiichidoku
01-07-2010, 03:56 PM
ok, then make it an ongoing side project for anyone

otherwise floor is open for regular questions

VF-17_Jolly
01-08-2010, 06:53 AM
I recognise a few but to keep going

where is this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/q787.jpg

jamesblonde1979
01-08-2010, 07:04 AM
Manston?

VF-17_Jolly
01-08-2010, 07:27 AM
No http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Dance
01-08-2010, 10:45 AM
Duxford

VF-17_Jolly
01-08-2010, 11:21 AM
Yes indeed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif MrD

Dance
01-08-2010, 11:53 AM
Thanks MrJ.

Name the engine..

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q373.jpg

Daiichidoku
01-08-2010, 01:16 PM
R-2800-32W as used in the F4U-5

Dance
01-08-2010, 01:19 PM
Yes Indeedy Dai http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Daiichidoku
01-08-2010, 01:33 PM
who and who doing what during what?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/mystery67.jpg

coturnix
01-08-2010, 02:09 PM
Adolph Galland and some English ace doing pheasant hunting.

Daiichidoku
01-08-2010, 02:34 PM
yes, you got the easy ones, Adi Galland and pheasant hunting

but who is the second man, and what has brought them together?

arthursmedley
01-08-2010, 02:40 PM
Thats Bob Stanford-Tuck but I couldn't tell you the event.

Daiichidoku
01-08-2010, 02:51 PM
mostly i was looking for both names anyhow, so over to you athursmeldley

this pic taken during fiming of the BoB movie, they were both consultants one

Rock_Kettler
01-08-2010, 02:58 PM
After the war Galland and Stanford-Tuck became great friends. The event - they were both technical advisers on the Battle of Britain movie.
Ironically the lyrics of Iron Maiden's song Aces High by Steve Harris appears in full on Stanford-Tuck's homepage here: http://www.stanfordtuck.com/
and coturnix uses the last two lines of the first verse in his signature.
Small world isn't it.

Edit: Posted before I saw your last Dai http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

arthursmedley
01-08-2010, 07:06 PM
Please Rock, or anyone, take it away http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif

VF-17_Jolly
01-09-2010, 09:17 AM
If nobody going to

who is the fella on the right

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/q9098.jpg

Metatron_123
01-09-2010, 09:30 AM
Kurt Tank innit? Wooooooooo!

VF-17_Jolly
01-09-2010, 09:37 AM
Yes indeed your go Metatron http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Metatron_123
01-09-2010, 09:39 AM
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x286/metatron_123/thing-1.jpg

Who is this lady?

Daiichidoku
01-09-2010, 10:30 AM
CANT Z.511

Rock_Kettler
01-09-2010, 11:22 AM
Apologies to Arthur et al. Afraid I'd crashed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif soon after posting.
Wasn't looking to "one up", assumed Arthur had it. I was just struck by the irony of Coturnix's input about " some English Ace". Considering his relatively short operational career Stanford-Tuck was one of the all time greats.
Nice to be back but changing circumstances mean less frequent and shorter visits.

Daiichidoku
01-09-2010, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Rock_Kettler:
Apologies to Arthur et al. Afraid I'd crashed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif soon after posting.
Wasn't looking to "one up", assumed Arthur had it. I was just struck by the irony of Coturnix's input about " some English Ace". Considering his relatively short operational career Stanford-Tuck was one of the all time greats.
Nice to be back but changing circumstances mean less frequent and shorter visits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stanford_Tuck

He had an extraordinary piece of ill-fortune when he intercepted a German bomber heading towards Cardiff. He fired at extreme range in poor light, causing it to jettison its bombs in open countryside instead of on the city. The last of its stick of bombs caught one corner of an army training camp and killed one soldier. The soldier was the husband of Tuck's sister


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Metatron_123
01-09-2010, 12:14 PM
Yes Daiichidoku, your turn!

Daiichidoku
01-09-2010, 12:21 PM
this slice of sexy is a direct relation to a racer, which was derived from a european front-line fighter type

who is she?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/mystery66.jpg

jamesblonde1979
01-09-2010, 04:20 PM
MiG 3U?

Daiichidoku
01-09-2010, 05:20 PM
nope

mhuxt
01-09-2010, 05:27 PM
Me 209?

edit - can't be, thought the 209 had an inverted vee.

jamesblonde1979
01-10-2010, 05:53 AM
Could be a heinkel but I have no idea...

VF-17_Jolly
01-10-2010, 09:57 AM
Dewoitine D 520?

Daiichidoku
01-10-2010, 03:06 PM
no Jolly, but you are on the right track

Dance
01-10-2010, 04:09 PM
Dewoitine D.550, MrJ was extremely close considering http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Daiichidoku
01-10-2010, 04:15 PM
sorry Dance, not the 550

but you are SOOO close! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

this is a 550, note the slightly different engine cowling
http://www.aviafrance.com/image.php?im=339


the original post is actually a D.551, the fighter-to-be based on the racer 550, itself based on the 520
but you and J are very close, i leave it to Jolly or Dance now

Dance
01-10-2010, 04:28 PM
I give it to Jolly...

AndyJWest
01-10-2010, 08:55 PM
No new question, so here's one to ponder on, though feel free to ask a more conventional question if this has you all stumped. Identify (common name or latin classification please, I know it's a bat):

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/bat.jpg
Having answered that, what is its (his? hers? - can't tell in the picture, though sexing bats is easier than some mammals I believe) connection with WWII? Answer around noon GMT if you are all baffled, or think I've gone completely nuts...

TheGrunch
01-11-2010, 12:46 AM
It's something to do with bat-incendiary-bombs, but I don't know the details. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AndyJWest
01-11-2010, 06:29 AM
I think we'd better give it to TheGrunch:

It's a Mexican Free-tailed Bat (Tadarida brasiliensis) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Free-tailed_Bat), as intended for use in the Bat bomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb) project.

And you thought only the Nazis had mad wonder-weapon schemes. Though it might even have worked...

berg417448
01-11-2010, 06:39 AM
There was a completely different "Bat Bomb" project that was actually used in WWII as well.

"The Bat's guidance system was particularly sophisticated for the time. After being dropped, it glided toward the target on a preset course using a gyro stabilizer system to keep it on track. As it neared the target, the bomb locked on with its own radar system that guided it into the target. Since the radar seeker was conceptually similar to the "sonar" system used by a bat to prey on flying insects, the weapon was named after the bat. The Bat also included a self-destruct mechanism to keep it from falling into enemy hands, and obtained its electrical power from four small windmill generators. "

http://www.vectorsite.net/twbomb_04.html

TheGrunch
01-11-2010, 06:50 AM
Oh, dear. Floor's open, chaps, I'm needed at the pub. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Dance
01-11-2010, 12:22 PM
Ok we'll try this, name the target in the picture. I've seen it in two sims at least and even in Il-2 albeit modded.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q374.jpg

Dance
01-11-2010, 02:24 PM
Clue: Think U-Boats..

Woke_Up_Dead
01-11-2010, 06:53 PM
U-boat pens in Lorient, France?

Dance
01-12-2010, 05:36 AM
Not Lorient sorry, bit further to the North-West than that.

Jure_502
01-12-2010, 09:59 AM
Brest?

Dance
01-12-2010, 10:00 AM
That's the one Jure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Jure_502
01-12-2010, 10:28 AM
Thanks Dance! My old Pilots manual book from CFS 1 with targets map still serves me! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Ok, ID please:

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy39/Jure_502/Vprasanja/vprasanje8.jpg

Dance
01-12-2010, 11:54 AM
kinda looks like the Hughes D-2?

VF-17_Jolly
01-12-2010, 12:21 PM
Did the D.2 fly? I think it is the XF-11 the one that nearly Killed Howard Hughes?

Dance
01-12-2010, 12:26 PM
It flew in several hops MrJ, assumed this might be one, but expect you are correct.

Jure_502
01-12-2010, 12:29 PM
Jolly has it! It's Hughes XF 11. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VF-17_Jolly
01-12-2010, 12:34 PM
Thanks Jure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Sorry Mr D

So What is this?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/q909.jpg

Dance
01-12-2010, 12:45 PM
A martian ala H.G.Wells http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VF-17_Jolly
01-12-2010, 01:26 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif not quite no sorry

Rock_Kettler
01-13-2010, 10:52 AM
Fat Man - 2nd Atomic bomb to be dropped, (on Nagasaki)

Dance
01-13-2010, 11:00 AM
It's part of the aiming mechanism of the Project Orcon, pigeon guided missile.

VF-17_Jolly
01-13-2010, 02:30 PM
Mister Dance has it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Project Orcon .Originaly called Project Pigeon started during WWII revived in 1948 and finaly cancelled in 1952 Three Pigeons which were conditioned to peck at a ship silouete guided the bomb/rocket to the target.

Three were pigeons were used so the the weapon was guided by the two out of the three that agreed on the direction http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dance
01-13-2010, 03:03 PM
I read about this some time ago, and was non-plussed to how they got funding http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Another target to identify, the name of the building or the operation will do....

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q375.jpg

Jungmann
01-13-2010, 06:29 PM
Is it the Shell House in Copenhagen? Hit in early 1945 by Mosquitos. Building was being used as Gestapo headquarters, and they were rolling up the Danish underground. Attack seen as way to release prisoners and destroy files and records. Regarded successful.

Dance
01-14-2010, 12:43 AM
It is Jungmann, the target of Operation Carthage, all yours http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Jungmann
01-14-2010, 09:58 AM
Thanks, Dance.

If I was using this route chart, what sort of mission would I be flying?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/Jungmann/il2-21.jpg

Daiichidoku
01-14-2010, 10:06 AM
the Hump

Jungmann
01-14-2010, 10:10 AM
Dai scores in eight minutes. Hump it is.

Daiichidoku
01-14-2010, 10:55 AM
8 minutes lol...if i saw that when u posted it it would been 1 minute http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

there are times i see some i know, but they have already been answered hours previous (and of course many i dont know that have been posted the minute before)

i have no life, but not so completely that i can monitor ubi forum 24/7 :P


recognition:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/mystery70.jpg

Jungmann
01-14-2010, 11:17 AM
RN Curtiss SO3C Seamew. Neat looking but not very successful. 19 minutes. Lazy winter time. Watching the thread instead of working.

Daiichidoku
01-14-2010, 12:58 PM
all yours Jungmann

Jungmann
01-14-2010, 01:08 PM
Okay, gamesters--another quick one. Where am I?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/Jungmann/il2-26.jpg

Extra credit, when?

arthursmedley
01-14-2010, 01:29 PM
Marshall Islands, Feb. 1944. Operation Flintlock?

Dance
01-14-2010, 01:30 PM
Ulithi Atoll, end of '44.

Jungmann
01-14-2010, 01:41 PM
Dance scores. "Murderer's Row" of the Third Fleet, Ulithi, December 8 '44. Wasp, Yorktown, Hornet, Hancock and Ticonderoga

Dance
01-14-2010, 01:59 PM
Thanks Jungmann. Another quick one, who was Britain's first prisoner of war?

Dance
01-15-2010, 10:05 AM
Clue, he was an observer on a Blenheim.

Dance
01-15-2010, 01:50 PM
Last clue, he was in 107 Squadron, I'll give it an hour.

Woke_Up_Dead
01-15-2010, 02:20 PM
George Booth. But I thought that Britain's first POW would have been a German...

Dance
01-15-2010, 02:24 PM
Depends which way you look at it WuD that's the way it is described, still the clues should have made it obvious. All yours http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Woke_Up_Dead
01-15-2010, 02:37 PM
Thanks Dance.

These planes are a handful of many that share a conspicuous design feature that was invented in 1928:

Polikarpov I-153
P-11
Nieuport Loire-46
Curtiss Sparrowhawk

What is the feature, who invented it, and what was the problem that it solved? (Two out of three will get you the point). To be clear, this feature is immediately obvious when looking at a picture of any of those planes, it's not some little internal part.

Edit: the design was first invented and applied in 1928, not 1920

jamesblonde1979
01-15-2010, 03:39 PM
The gull wing?

The problem being that a high wing on parasol/biplane aircraft obscured upward visibility.

Woke_Up_Dead
01-15-2010, 03:54 PM
It is the gull wing, and it did improve forward/upward visibility, well done.

The other problem it solved was the lack of strenght and rigidity that parasol monoplane experienced. It is also sometimes called the "Pulawski Wing" after the inventor Zygmunt Pulawski, the one who created the P-11.

An added bonus to the design was that unlike most biplane wings up to that point it allowed the wing to be strong and thick enough to enclose machine-guns.

All yours

jamesblonde1979
01-15-2010, 04:05 PM
Wow, I got one right and it's only January!

Could this be the year Jimmy Blonde makes it to double figures???

Ok, I'm going to get a bit creative here in an attempt to stump some of you guys.

http://kits.kitreview.com/images/c20032previewmt_decals.jpg

These are a set of decals from a model aeroplane, what type of aircraft are they from?

Spitslayer17
01-15-2010, 05:10 PM
Macchi 205?

Dance
01-15-2010, 05:53 PM
You want info on the decals that this site can't get JB?

http://www.jerseyshorehobbies.com/products.html

Dance
01-16-2010, 02:38 PM
You still with us JB? Is Spitslayer right or what?

Daiichidoku
01-16-2010, 04:11 PM
CANT Z.506?

jamesblonde1979
01-16-2010, 04:12 PM
Damn, sorry guys I sort of...

Completely forgot.

Spitslayer is close but not actually correct.

Sorry Daii, not that either.

jamesblonde1979
01-16-2010, 04:20 PM
Guy's I have sent Dance the answer so if I am not here then he will know what it is and this won't happen again.

Once again my apologies.

jamesblonde1979
01-16-2010, 09:17 PM
well it must have been almost 24 hours now.

The correct answer was an MC-200 so I am giving it to Spitslayer.

Spitslayer17
01-17-2010, 12:08 AM
Well I wasn't really expecting to have the correct answer so I'm a little unprepared. I dug through some photo's I took last year and came up with this. Sorry if it's too easy guys.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu317/Spitslayer/P1080778.jpg

mhuxt
01-17-2010, 03:09 AM
Isn't that the Udvar-Hazy 219?

Spitslayer17
01-17-2010, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by mhuxt:
Isn't that the Udvar-Hazy 219?

Correct

mhuxt
01-17-2010, 01:24 PM
Thanks.

OK, trick question. Where would one find the Swartfjord?

Dance
01-17-2010, 02:05 PM
In the movie or the book, 633 Squadron http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

mhuxt
01-17-2010, 06:33 PM
That's correct Dance, over to you.

Dance
01-18-2010, 07:40 AM
Thanks mhuxt.

Name the aircraft...

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q376.jpg

SheerLuckHolmes
01-18-2010, 08:17 AM
Gloster Meteor ?

Dance
01-18-2010, 08:44 AM
No sorry Sheerluck, it is a twin though, but not a jet.

SheerLuckHolmes
01-18-2010, 09:08 AM
Beaufigher then? some brithis? airplane? ... thing?

Dance
01-18-2010, 09:47 AM
Not British http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SheerLuckHolmes
01-18-2010, 09:58 AM
Doh... I ran out of possibilities http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Dance
01-18-2010, 01:14 PM
Clue, it's French.

VF-17_Jolly
01-18-2010, 01:44 PM
potez 630?

Dance
01-18-2010, 02:06 PM
Getting warmer, wrong plane MrJ!

DIRTY-MAC
01-19-2010, 03:45 AM
Is it a Breguet 691 / 693

Dance
01-19-2010, 05:43 AM
Bingo, all yours DM http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

DIRTY-MAC
01-19-2010, 06:14 AM
What plane?

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/HOOTCHIE-MAMA/guesswhat-1.jpg

Dance
01-19-2010, 11:58 AM
FFVS J-22.

DIRTY-MAC
01-19-2010, 02:16 PM
Nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Its all yours

Dance
01-19-2010, 02:26 PM
Thanks DM, here's an easy one, what's this?

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q377.jpg

Jungmann
01-19-2010, 09:49 PM
Stinson Vigilant O-49 or L-1?

Dance
01-20-2010, 06:12 AM
O-49 it is Jungmann http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Jungmann
01-20-2010, 11:22 AM
Thanks, Dance.

Name the plane.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/Jungmann/IL2-23.jpg

Extra credit: why isn't it what you first think it is.

Daiichidoku
01-20-2010, 01:08 PM
NA-98X

a 25-H with R-2800s and low drag cowlings, square-cut wingtips, increased aileron area, inproved gun laying eqipment, NA designed low drag dorsal turret, all designed to offer an alternative to the more expensive A-26 Invader

private NA venture

Jungmann
01-20-2010, 01:25 PM
Super answer, Dai. Your go. Oh, and since you have your finger on it, you might tell the thread what happened to it.

Daiichidoku
01-20-2010, 01:44 PM
The first flight of NA-98X took place on March 31, 1944, test pilot Joe Barton being at the controls. He reported better speed and acceleration, reduced vibration, and a higher roll rate. War emergency power could bring the aircraft to 10,000 in 4.9 minutes and in 5.3 minutes at military power. A maximum speed of 328 mph could be achieved at sea level with war emergency power.

It was recognized that the increased power of the R-2800 engine, acting in concert with the increased aileron area and reduced stick forces, might make it possible to operate the aircraft in performance regimes where excessive bending moments could be imposed on the wings, maybe even leading to a catastrophic failure and loss of the aircraft. Consequently, during flight testing, it was agreed that the maximum airspeed would be restricted to 340 mph and the normal acceleration would not exceed 2.67g.

On April 24, 1944, the NA-98X was taken up for a test flight by Maj. Perry Ritchie and Lt. Winton Wey. During a low speed pass over Mines Field, the aircraft disintegrated in mid-air and crashed, killing both pilots. An investigation showed that both outer wing panels had been ripped off the aircraft during the low-speed pass, the plane having been flown beyond its structural limitations by its crew. Following the crash, all further work on the NA-98X project was abandoned.

Daiichidoku
01-20-2010, 01:58 PM
NAS Penscola:

what is this man and what is he saying?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/mystery71.jpg

Jungmann
01-20-2010, 03:54 PM
He's a signalman and he's signaling float plate or patrol plane trainers to come ashore for beaching. Just a guess.

Daiichidoku
01-20-2010, 04:34 PM
close enough i suppose http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

a beachmaster signals to come alongside

Jungmann
01-20-2010, 06:42 PM
No question handy. The floor is open to anyone who wants to post.

Jure_502
01-21-2010, 01:46 AM
What is this lovely lady doing here?

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy39/Jure_502/Vprasanja/vprasanje9.jpg

Daiichidoku
01-21-2010, 11:01 AM
my shirt...and hurry up, B***H!


?

Jungmann
01-21-2010, 11:13 AM
Shrinking the fabric with the heat of the ironon some fabric-covered aircraft component?

Jure_502
01-21-2010, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Jungmann:
aircraft component?

Not exactly aircraft component. Something that is attached on the airplane.

EDIT: Went to bed, will check as soon as I can.

Jure_502
01-22-2010, 06:19 AM
As I'll be off again, I'll reveal.

It's manufacturing of self-sealing gas tanks at Goodyear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-sealing_fuel_tank

The floor is open.

Dance
01-24-2010, 03:47 PM
Just stop the thread dropping off the front page, here's one for you.

Identify this airfield, a former RAF base..

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss207/Dancewaffe/q378.jpg

Dance
01-25-2010, 05:37 AM
Clue, it was extensively bombed during the Battle of Britain. It is now classed as an airport rather than just an airfield as it has a terminal building and customs facilities.

mhuxt
01-25-2010, 05:48 AM
It's Biggin Hill, old boy.

I shall see you in the morning. Tell that damned Herr Goering to wait.

Dance
01-25-2010, 07:20 AM
That's the one mhuxt http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

mhuxt
01-25-2010, 01:13 PM
Morning already? God, Jenkins, these mess parties are tiring!

Very well. "Solve for X. Parramatta, Wanganui, X."

Dance
01-25-2010, 03:47 PM
Just crawled out of a pile of trench coats, *burp*, who stole my pint of mild?

I believe I asked that one once before, so will just offer a clue, Oboe.

mhuxt
01-25-2010, 04:22 PM
Whoops! Sorry.

Quite so. "On the right track," so to speak.

mhuxt
01-26-2010, 02:22 AM
Hint: it's a place name, and there's one of them in Connecticut.

mhuxt
01-26-2010, 04:51 AM
Well, I'm off to bed again Jenkins, enough heroism for one day.



And tell the Sergeants to stay out of the bloody WAAF quarters!

VF-17_Jolly
01-26-2010, 07:50 AM
Newhaven?

VF-17_Jolly
01-26-2010, 12:30 PM
I will elaborate

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/oboe3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/oboe.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/oboe1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/oboe2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/oboe4.jpg

mhuxt
01-26-2010, 01:30 PM
Newhaven it is.

Well done Jolly, over to you.

VF-17_Jolly
01-26-2010, 03:17 PM
Cheers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Where is this and what did they do there during WWII

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/Q222.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
01-27-2010, 12:30 PM
A hint at the location

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/q2332.jpg

Dance
01-27-2010, 01:15 PM
RAF Cardington, produced barrage balloons during WW2. Probably more famous for the R101.

VF-17_Jolly
01-27-2010, 01:20 PM
Yes indeed MrDance http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

"In 1936 the Committee of Imperial Defence approved the idea of 450 barrage balloons being set up to defend London. This initiated an eventual national balloon defence organisation. It was to be set up by The Auxiliary Air Force i.e. manned by non-regular volunteer staff. No1 Balloon Training Unit was formed at RAF Cardington on January 9th 1937. On 17th March 1937 the first Balloon Barrage Group No30 was formed. It was commanded by a retired RAF officer Air Commodore J.G Hearon CB,CBE,DS


The fledgling Balloon Command was formed in 1937 as war clouds gathered over Europe. The official Balloon Command was formed on November 1st 1938 under the control of fighter Command. At its head was AVM O.T Boyd CB, OBE, MC with the title of Air Officer Commanding. In 1939 we had 47 Barrage Balloon squadrons set up. They were given the numbers 901-947 inclusively based on a county wide affiliation. At the outbreak of war in September 1939 we had approved the idea of a total of 1450 balloons but had only 624 in existence. Balloon production was 212 in September 1939 and fell to 148 in October. Production figures trebled as the months went by and by May 1940 we had at last achieved our pre-war target only to be faced with an imminent German invasion of France with Britain potentially next. It was at this time that waterborne balloons became to be used at ports and harbours. They were tethered to floating barges. By 1939 we had improved the designs and method of flying balloons so that dive bombing by German planes was frustrated and this reduced their capacity to bomb accurately. At the same time it kept the enemy at heights that kept them in the range of anti-aircraft fire. Balloon Command divided Britain on a geographical basis into Balloon Groups and each one of those was in turn subdivided into Balloon Centres staffed by squadrons of balloon operators who were responsible for the flying of the balloons. Each Centre was a depot for the supply and repair of equipment along with balloon maintenance. The balloons were not always flown from fixed static sites; Balloons were flown from barges, drifters and even mobile lorries. This meant that the barrage could be placed where it was most needed and ensured that land and sea areas were well protected. These seaborne balloons were designed to prevent enemy aircraft from dropping mines into the ports and harbours. At sea balloons were flown by the convoys using a mixture of naval and merchant seamen with the balloons being serviced by RAF personnel. Balloons flown at sea were a slightly smaller size than those flown on land.


In 1940 balloon production was around 1200 balloons per month. By August the 1st there were only 1,466 balloons spread across 52 operational squadrons, still nearly 400 below the expected figure.. At this time 2 mobile squadrons were being formed.


Balloon Command was organised intro 5 Groups:
No 30 Group: LONDON
No 31 Group: BIRMINGHAM
No 32 Group: ROMSEY
No 33 Group: SHEFFIELD
No 34 Group EDINBURGH


The life of Balloon Command was relatively short as The Balloon Training Unit closed down in 1943. By then it had trained over 10,000 RAF and WAAF balloon operators and some 12,000 operator drivers.


It was decided to train WAAF personnel instead of male operators to relieve more men for active duty. There were those who scorned the idea but the WAAF's set to and showed they were more than ready to meet the challenge.

The Balloons were flown by two corporals and ten airmen on a round the clock shift basis. In 1940 the idea was floated that balloons could be operated by WAAF's thus releasing men for active service in other areas.


This idea was hotly contested by AOC Balloon Command and his WAAF Staff Officer. In April 1941 20 WAAF Balloon Fabric Operators were trained in London. In May 1941 the first batch of WAAF volunteers were posted to a 10 week training course at a balloon centre. Initially, the powers that be, working on the basis that 10 male balloon operators could only be replaced by at least 20 female balloon operators, began to substitute women for men in the squadrons. The women rose to the challenge and showed that 14 women were quite capable of replacing 10 men and this was eventually settled as the correct figure. By December 1942 10,000 men had been replaced by some 15,700 WAAF balloon operators. For those squadrons who went abroad to defend vital installations the operators were male.

The balloon barrage was always a very risky area to fly aircraft of any sort in. Friday, 24th May 1940 was the day on which the balloon barrage was to claim its first victim, unfortunately one of our own RAF planes! This first aircraft downed by the balloon barrage was an RAF Hampden bomber, which hit the barrage over Coventry in the daytime and landed in the cricket ground. Another Hampden collided with the barrage on 4th June 1940, at Shotley, 2 miles NW of Harwich - this is the first balloon casualty to be recorded by Home Security. On 13th June, a third Hampden hit the barrage at Harwich and crashed in the dock area at Felixstowe. Only one man survived these 3 crashes. The first enemy aircraft brought down by the balloon barrage was on 13th September, 1940. This was a night time incident and this first German loss reliably attributed to the Balloon Barrage, was the loss of a Heinkel He 111, claimed by a mobile unit of 966 Squadron on station at Belle View Park, Monmouthshire. The plane was returning from a raid on Merseyside, when it struck the cable and plunged into a built-up area of the above district. On the ground two children were killed. Three of the aircraft's crew were killed, the pilot managed to bale out in time. The aircraft was destroyed.

The flying of balloon barrages was finished in the United Kingdom in Autumn 1944. This led to the disbanding of Balloon Command in February 1945."

Dance
01-27-2010, 01:33 PM
Thanks Mr Jolly, that's a lot of balloons http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Ok, simple I.D.

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Jure_502
01-28-2010, 03:35 AM
It's defenitely French. Bloch MB-210 ''Verdum''?

Dance
01-28-2010, 03:59 AM
Indeed it is, over to Jure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Jure_502
01-28-2010, 04:21 AM
I thought it was too easy so I wanted to left it to someone else, so I didn't answered yesterday.
What's happening to this quiz lately?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Ok, moving on, ID please:

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