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HayateAce
06-06-2006, 03:34 PM
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/06/skyray060606_228x253.jpg

Special forces to use strap-on 'stealth wings'


Elite special forces troops being dropped behind enemy lines on covert missions are to ditch their traditional parachutes in favour of strap-on stealth wings.

The lightweight carbon fibre mono-wings will allow them to jump from high altitudes and then glide 120 miles or more before landing - making them almost impossible to spot, as their aircraft can avoid flying anywhere near the target.

The technology was demonstrated in spectacular fashion three years ago when Austrian daredevil Felix Baumgartner - a pioneer of freefall gliding - famously 'flew' across the English Channel, leaping out of an aircraft 30,000ft above Dover and landing safely near Calais 12 minutes later.

Wearing an aerodynamic suit, and with a 6ft wide wing strapped to his back, he soared across the sea at 220mph, moving six feet forward through the air for every one foot he fell vertically - and opened his parachute 1,000ft above the ground before landing safely.

'Massive potential'

Now military scientists have realised the massive potential for secret military missions.

Currently special forces such as the SAS rely on a variety of parachute techniques to land behind enemy lines - or else they must be dropped by helicopter.

Existing steerable square parachutes can be used - opened at high altitude of 27,000 ft - but jumpers then have to struggle to control them for long periods, often in high winds and extreme cold, while breathing from an oxygen tank to stay alive.

Alternatively they can freefall from high altitude, opening their parachutes at the last possible minute, but that limits the distance they can 'glide' forward from the drop point to just a few miles.

Now German company ESG has developed the strap-on rigid wing specifically for special forces use.

Resembling a 6ft-wide pair of aircraft wings, the devices should allow a parachutist to glide up to 120miles, carrying 200lb of equipment, the manufacturers claim.

Fitted with oxygen supply, stabilisation and navigation aides, troops wearing the wings will jump from a high-altitude transport aircraft which can stay far away from enemy territory - or on secret peacetime missions could avoid detection or suspicion by staying close to commercial airliner flight paths.

The manufacturers claim the ESG wing is '100 per cent silent' and 'extremely difficult' to track using radar.

Once close to their target landing zone, the troops pull their parachute rip cord to open their canopy and then land normally.

Weapons, ammunition, food and water can all be stowed inside the wing, although concealing the 6ft wings after landing could prove harder than burying a traditional parachute.

ESG claims the next stage of development will be fitting 'small turbo-jet drives' to the wings to extend range even further.

According to SAS insiders, very few operational parachute jumps have taken place in recent years, with teams tending to rely more on helicopters or other means of transport.

Supporters of the new mono-wing technology hope it will give a new lease of life to parachute tactics in the special forces world.

The Ministry of Defence would not comment on any equipment used by special forces, but is expected to evaluate the new system for use by UK special forces.

kajr
06-06-2006, 03:38 PM
Check this guy out...he uses a winged suit with two ROCKETS strapped to his feet...

BirdMan Visa Parviainen aka RocketBird (http://www.bird-man.com/?n=News&id=948)

flakwagen
06-06-2006, 05:53 PM
Cool.

http://www.kidswithoutbrains.com/images/cars/rocketeer.jpg

Daiichidoku
06-06-2006, 07:06 PM
sorry Hayate..but this is old old news

been around for quite awhile

there's even tactical plans made up for practical use

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/5030.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/wecbat.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/coyote.jpg

AVG_WarHawk
06-06-2006, 07:09 PM
Amazing stuff!

Another view:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/AVG_WarHawk/batman.jpg

WTE_Galway
06-06-2006, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by HayateAce:

The lightweight carbon fibre mono-wings will allow them to jump from high altitudes and then glide 120 miles or more before landing ...

.... he soared across the sea at 220mph, moving six feet forward through the air for every one foot he fell vertically - and opened his parachute 1,000ft above the ground before landing safely.

OK .. the figures do not match, with that glide ratio he would need an altitude of 20 miles or 100,000 odd feet to get the 120 mile range claimed.

berg417448
06-06-2006, 07:11 PM
Daiichidoku....Now thats funny!

Worf101
06-06-2006, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by flakwagen:
Cool.

http://www.kidswithoutbrains.com/images/cars/rocketeer.jpg
The Rocketeer was one of my fave Comics. Loved it. He got it just right.

Da Worfster

HayateAce
06-06-2006, 08:01 PM
Sorry Daiichidoku and anyone else for whom this is stale news. Seemed interesting enough for a looksee.

Akronnick
06-06-2006, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HayateAce:

The lightweight carbon fibre mono-wings will allow them to jump from high altitudes and then glide 120 miles or more before landing ...

.... he soared across the sea at 220mph, moving six feet forward through the air for every one foot he fell vertically - and opened his parachute 1,000ft above the ground before landing safely.

OK .. the figures do not match, with that glide ratio he would need an altitude of 20 miles or 100,000 odd feet to get the 120 mile range claimed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's not 120 miles from Dover to Calais, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Dover) in fact, it's only 20 miles.

20miles * 5,280ft/mile = 105,600ft.
105,600ft / 6 = 17,600ft.

This is totally doable.

120miles * 5280ft/mile = 633,600ft.
633,600ft / 6 = 105,600ft

you'd need a pressure suit for that, not only that, every body on the aircraft would need a pressure suit, not only that, you'd need an aircraft that can reach 106,600ft, and still be able to open a hatch. I'm not familiar with any aircraft that can do that.

Daiichidoku
06-06-2006, 11:38 PM
so...

a "pilot" with a parachute, wings, and jets?

not safe enuff...add about 20,000lbs of structure around him, that will make it better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

seriously though...

this reminded of the Bell rocket pack (Bell Rocket Belt) that everyone's seen in James Bond- Thunderball

a quick google seach ended up at where else? Wiki

interesting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_pack

The German Jetpack of World War II
During WWII, Germany made late-war experiments of strapping two wearable shortened Schmidt pulse tubes of low thrust to the body of a test flier. These tubes bore no resemblance to the Schmidt-Argus pulse jet that powered the V-1 missile.

The device was called "Himmelst√ľrmer" (Skystormer) and operated as follows: when the flier ignited both engines simultaneously the tubes began to pulse modulate. The angled rear tube strapped to the flier's back provided both lift and forward thrust while the chest mounted deflector tube of lower thrust maintained a constant upward thrust. This lifted the flier up and forward. By opening the throttle to the rear tube, calculated "jumps" could be made of up to 60 yards (180 ft)at extreme low altitude (under 50 ft). The tubes consumed very little fuel but not much could be carried either. The intended use for this device was for German engineers to cross minefields, barbed wire obstacles, and bridgeless waters. The device was never intended for troop use despite a crude depiction of it in that role in the movie, "The Rocketeer" (which was a prop bearing no resemblance to the real device).

At the end of the war this device was handed over to Bell which tested it on a tether out of fear of harm as no test flier was willing to risk his life with the German machine. What became of the device is not known but Bell later came up with its famous "Rocketbelt" design that Wendel Moore claimed was his own. Although of different configuration and operation, it is suspected that Moore had knowledge of the German machine- hardly an "original" idea.

The fictional device used by The Rocketeer was a rocket pack that was technically unique (at least in the film adaptation) because it was designed to remain cool. The Himmelsturmer, by comparison, never operated long enough to get extremely hot and both tubes were angled away from the body of the flier. In operation the thrust difference between pulse tubes acted as a push/pull/lift system. Flight time for jumps was in seconds with no lengthy descent time as altitude was minimal. As soon as the throttle was disengaged the device was shut off. A very simple operation and no report of any casualties.

LEBillfish
06-07-2006, 12:48 AM
What an AWESOME idea!!!!.....Who's going first?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Kaytoo/wing.jpg

BrewsterPilot
06-07-2006, 01:21 AM
BRILLIANT LEBillfish! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

waffen-79
06-07-2006, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
What an AWESOME idea!!!!.....Who's going first?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Kaytoo/wing.jpg

PWNED http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

triggerhappyfin
06-07-2006, 06:47 AM
Atleast thr guy is equipped with a landing hook!
I wonder if it‚¬īll function on approach tho http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

major_setback
06-07-2006, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by kajr:
Check this guy out...he uses a winged suit with two ROCKETS strapped to his feet...

BirdMan Visa Parviainen aka RocketBird (http://www.bird-man.com/?n=News&id=948)



W0W!!!
Look at that video of the guy travelling horizontally after the cliff-hopp (only worthwhile video there I think).

If this link won't work try the video on the left hand side of the page called 'Fastest Mthrfkr In the Valley'.

http://www.bird-man.com/?n=fastestmfckr


EDIT: This one's good too

http://www.bird-man.com/?n=windtunnel&nose=6

Dew-Claw
06-07-2006, 01:25 PM
He went what looked like around 3 miles before he had to depoly his chute...amazing.

ARCHIE_CALVERT
06-07-2006, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
What an AWESOME idea!!!!.....Who's going first?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Kaytoo/wing.jpg

See this is another prime example why Women must never be allowed to tell us what to do... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Result: We would still be running around Africa looking over our shoulders for that hungry leaping Lion about to make us lunch‚‚ā¨¬¶ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Women are too sensible; nothing would ever get invented if it meant you could get hurt‚‚ā¨¬¶ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Only Joking... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

WarWolfe_1
06-07-2006, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
What an AWESOME idea!!!!.....Who's going first?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Kaytoo/wing.jpg

Classic! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

LEBillfish
06-07-2006, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by ARCHIE_CALVERT:
Result: We would still be running around Africa looking over our shoulders for that hungry leaping Lion about to make us lunch‚‚ā¨¬¶ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Darn, plan foiled again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif