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Sploivik
11-12-2007, 10:42 AM
Im tired of hearing ppl say how bad the AI is when ur fighting. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Main concern on Fight AI:"Why soldiers attack u
1 by 1"
lemme tell u why:
-thers a chance that instead of slicing Altair u slice ur comrade
-All at once is too messy
-they all surround Altair so he wouldnt getaway
-all at once is way too hard, this game is based on real life situations, the main char isnt a super powerd hero
like other games u've played
-besides ppl will complain its too hard if they do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
btw ive cn vids where they DO attack him at the same time

b-busher
11-12-2007, 10:43 AM
I made a thread exactly like this so I agree with you fully on this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

IHS_Spitfire
11-12-2007, 10:43 AM
Damn right.

Phacrebion
11-12-2007, 10:44 AM
I'm disappointed in myself for understanding everything you typed.

sickcough
11-12-2007, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Sploivik:
Im tired of hearing ppl say how bad the AI is when ur fighting. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Main concern on Fight AI:"Why soldiers attack u
1 by 1"
lemme tell u why:
-thers a chance that instead of slicing Altair u slice ur comrade
-All at once is too messy
-they all surround Altair so he wouldnt getaway
-all at once is way too hard, this game is based on real life situations, the main char isnt a super powerd hero
like other games u've played
-besides ppl will complain its too hard if they do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
btw ive cn vids where they DO attack him at the same time


You have it wrong. It's the fact that the only time you get hurt... ever... is when more than one attack at the same time. So we'd like to see it more often.. seriously, w/ the 1 attack at a time it's counter, counter, rinse, repeat. While all the guys stand there and watch your flashy killing ways and picking them off 1 at a time. Plus archers never shoot at you when you're on the street I can understand when guards are around but after you killed all the guards it's like they can't see you anymore when you're standing there. Oh, don't forget other guards will come up and say "its a bad omen, there's a murderer nearby etc..)" and you're standing there.. on their friends corpse.. 2 feet in front of them. Yes, this game has problems, it is tooo close to GTA with the whole 'stealth/awareness/crime level bar' thing and too childish (would a guard not question people or perhaps arrest nearby people?).

mroe1227
11-12-2007, 10:49 AM
assassins creed is wonderful. the end. you can throw people off of buildings AND do awesome parkour stuff. and kick people in the chest then impale them. this game has everything. **** the critics. let them beat on this game all they want. they just dont know what makes a fun game.

JACKREAPER564
11-12-2007, 11:00 AM
im with you SPLOIVIK the reaper


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gifTHE REAPER IS BACK http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Sploivik
11-12-2007, 11:04 AM
Its not the only time u get hurt: whenver u block a direct attack from the enemy u still get hurt. Plus when u agressivly fight an enemy his comrades will strike u from behind in defence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVwDxfGE6E&NR=1
U dont always hav to have to kill everone with a counter like throw them off a build or sumthing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_78N_tSV6c&feature=Rece...tched&page=1&t=t&f=b (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_78N_tSV6c&feature=RecentlyWatched&page=1&t=t&f=b)
I dont kno wer u got the IDEA of killing all the guards and cant c u. but im sure they CAN. Since in this vid the guards reconizes Altair EVEN when he alredy gotaway and hid in the hay stack.

sickcough
11-12-2007, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Sploivik:
Its not the only time u get hurt: whenver u block a direct attack from the enemy u still get hurt. Plus when u agressivly fight an enemy his comrades will strike u from behind in defence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVwDxfGE6E&NR=1
U dont always hav to have to kill everone with a counter like throw them off a build or sumthing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_78N_tSV6c&feature=Rece...tched&page=1&t=t&f=b (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_78N_tSV6c&feature=RecentlyWatched&page=1&t=t&f=b)
I dont kno wer u got the IDEA of killing all the guards and cant c u. but im sure they CAN. Since in this vid the guards reconizes Altair EVEN when he alredy gotaway and hid in the hay stack.

First question.. you don't have to block.. you counter and instant kill or throw down. You don't have to throw into a building it's more efficient to counter. Yes, i could make it challenging but that's like GTA now isn't it.. I wanted the GAME to be challenging not me having to make it challenging.

2nd.. I got the idea from PLAYING the game. The guard recognized him because he ran. Once you're in that beeping state you have to walk or blend.. also I don't think I've ever encountered a city alert? If it wasn't because he started to run perhaps that changes things... I've killed 100's of people and don't remember bells tolling nonstop (doesn't mean it wasn't happening it was late last night).

chickmgnt222
11-12-2007, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by sickcough:
Yes, this game has problems, it is tooo close to GTA with the whole 'stealth/awareness/crime level bar' thing and too childish (would a guard not question people or perhaps arrest nearby people?).

I know the game you speak of. It's called: Real Life.

Come on man, this is a GAME. Meant to be PLAYED, not lived. Just have fun! Don't tell me you can't have fun with it just because of this one small thing.

delver1
11-12-2007, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Sploivik:
Im tired of hearing ppl say how bad the AI is when ur fighting. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Main concern on Fight AI:"Why soldiers attack u
1 by 1"
lemme tell u why:
-thers a chance that instead of slicing Altair u slice ur comrade
-All at once is too messy
-they all surround Altair so he wouldnt getaway
-all at once is way too hard, this game is based on real life situations, the main char isnt a super powerd hero
like other games u've played
-besides ppl will complain its too hard if they do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
btw ive cn vids where they DO attack him at the same time
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

AirRon_2K7
11-12-2007, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by sickcough:
You have it wrong. It's the fact that the only time you get hurt... ever... is when more than one attack at the same time. So we'd like to see it more often.. seriously, w/ the 1 attack at a time it's counter, counter, rinse, repeat. While all the guys stand there and watch your flashy killing ways and picking them off 1 at a time. Plus archers never shoot at you when you're on the street I can understand when guards are around but after you killed all the guards it's like they can't see you anymore when you're standing there. Oh, don't forget other guards will come up and say "its a bad omen, there's a murderer nearby etc..)" and you're standing there.. on their friends corpse.. 2 feet in front of them. Yes, this game has problems, it is tooo close to GTA with the whole 'stealth/awareness/crime level bar' thing and too childish (would a guard not question people or perhaps arrest nearby people?).

Bah, flawed logic, shut up. You do get hurt one on one, so your 'fact' no longer applies. It is hardly a childish game, you don't just go around arresting people that are nearby, especially in that sort of period. Have you played the game? You're speaking as if you've finished the game for christ's sake...

sickcough
11-12-2007, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by chickmgnt222:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sickcough:
Yes, this game has problems, it is tooo close to GTA with the whole 'stealth/awareness/crime level bar' thing and too childish (would a guard not question people or perhaps arrest nearby people?).

I know the game you speak of. It's called: Real Life.

Come on man, this is a GAME. Meant to be PLAYED, not lived. Just have fun! Don't tell me you can't have fun with it just because of this one small thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeh, sorry, I'm overly critical on everything and I was hyped up for this one. I wish you could switch difficulties or perhaps you can didn't check menus very well. The movement is fluid, the storyline I actually am enjoying more than it being completely based in the crusades and the actual assassination part is fun. Also, you're an arrogant a-hole instead of a hero which presents a new exciting gameplay style.

Sploivik
11-12-2007, 11:24 AM
great hav fun with the game im geting mine on tuesday when it comes out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

In my opinion this game looks fantastic, the AI in AC is better than idiot NPCs in other games that can only stand ther and repeat sentaneces.

i stil think the Fight systems gonna kick *** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

sickcough
11-12-2007, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by AirRon_2K7:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sickcough:
You have it wrong. It's the fact that the only time you get hurt... ever... is when more than one attack at the same time. So we'd like to see it more often.. seriously, w/ the 1 attack at a time it's counter, counter, rinse, repeat. While all the guys stand there and watch your flashy killing ways and picking them off 1 at a time. Plus archers never shoot at you when you're on the street I can understand when guards are around but after you killed all the guards it's like they can't see you anymore when you're standing there. Oh, don't forget other guards will come up and say "its a bad omen, there's a murderer nearby etc..)" and you're standing there.. on their friends corpse.. 2 feet in front of them. Yes, this game has problems, it is tooo close to GTA with the whole 'stealth/awareness/crime level bar' thing and too childish (would a guard not question people or perhaps arrest nearby people?).

Bah, flawed logic, shut up. You do get hurt one on one, so your 'fact' no longer applies. It is hardly a childish game, you don't just go around arresting people that are nearby, especially in that sort of period. Have you played the game? You're speaking as if you've finished the game for christ's sake... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

NO, you don't get hurt if you counter. I haven't finished the game as I stated in another post and I HOPE AND PRAY that it becomes more challenging... oh and check your bloody history. You can't be that big of an idiot.. this was the CRUSADES.. that's what YOU DID. You arrested and interrogated people just for looking at you the wrong way using torture. Hell, the game you're saving citizens from the guards lol, and you want to claim this? Wow, come on sometimes think before you type. Please don't ever use the word logic again.

sickcough
11-12-2007, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Sploivik:
great hav fun with the game im geting mine on tuesday when it comes out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

In my opinion this game looks fantastic, the AI in AC is better than idiot NPCs in other games that can only stand ther and repeat sentaneces.

i stil think the Fight systems gonna kick *** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

For the sake of your heart not getting broken.. most of the NPC's repeat themselves in this game.. the same 1-liners over and over again. Except for those involved in the main plot line. The game does kick ***, you will enjoy it, and I don't know about the entire game.. only seen ~4 hours at this point (at work http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif ).

b-busher
11-12-2007, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by sickcough:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by chickmgnt222:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sickcough:
Yes, this game has problems, it is tooo close to GTA with the whole 'stealth/awareness/crime level bar' thing and too childish (would a guard not question people or perhaps arrest nearby people?).

I know the game you speak of. It's called: Real Life.

Come on man, this is a GAME. Meant to be PLAYED, not lived. Just have fun! Don't tell me you can't have fun with it just because of this one small thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeh, sorry, I'm overly critical on everything and I was hyped up for this one. I wish you could switch difficulties or perhaps you can didn't check menus very well. The movement is fluid, the storyline I actually am enjoying more than it being completely based in the crusades and the actual assassination part is fun. Also, you're an arrogant a-hole instead of a hero which presents a new exciting gameplay style. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the last bit is why god of war rocks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sickcough
11-12-2007, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by b-busher:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sickcough:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by chickmgnt222:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sickcough:
Yes, this game has problems, it is tooo close to GTA with the whole 'stealth/awareness/crime level bar' thing and too childish (would a guard not question people or perhaps arrest nearby people?).

I know the game you speak of. It's called: Real Life.

Come on man, this is a GAME. Meant to be PLAYED, not lived. Just have fun! Don't tell me you can't have fun with it just because of this one small thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeh, sorry, I'm overly critical on everything and I was hyped up for this one. I wish you could switch difficulties or perhaps you can didn't check menus very well. The movement is fluid, the storyline I actually am enjoying more than it being completely based in the crusades and the actual assassination part is fun. Also, you're an arrogant a-hole instead of a hero which presents a new exciting gameplay style. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the last bit is why god of war rocks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I heard that's a really good game (never owned PS series). My friend was supposed to let me borrow his and play 1 and 2 but it never happened. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I'll get around to it eventually if all these really good games would stop coming out.

Sploivik
11-12-2007, 11:32 AM
God of War 3 is officially coming out on ps3
lmao (like we didnt c that on coming)

b-busher
11-12-2007, 11:32 AM
You should really play them their the best games of the last gen I think. God of war 3 drool.....

Kaxen6
11-12-2007, 11:36 AM
I like the fight system. It is very fun to play, IMO. I love hitting people when they start cowering *insensitive*

sickcough
11-12-2007, 11:37 AM
Wow, I only know one person with a PS3 and he only does RPG. Looks like I need to acquire some new friends http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Yes, everyone loves God Of War, I haven't even played Prince of Persia series. I'm a MP man mostly and my friends and I have been in GH3 and Halo3 lately.

sickcough
11-12-2007, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Kaxen6:
I like the fight system. It is very fun to play, IMO. I love hitting people when they start cowering *insensitive*

You been playing it? That's another thing I've noticed recently that angers me.. I kill all but 1 guard and he runs away in terror.. great but.. he comes back, and stands a bit off and I just go up 1v1 and kill him too. I wish he would run over there to that big group of guards and bring them towards me making it more interesting. lol yeh I've killed 15-20 guards within sight of a group of 12-15 formation of guards and they didn't do anything.. quite appalling AI don't you think? Well no, it's just one of many facets of AI and with AI being the most complex part of a videogame I can't call it appalling as most of the time it's phenomenal in comparison to other games. In programming you have to 'think' of these instances and it's exponentially more difficult when you make a game with social reactions such as this one.

Kaxen6
11-12-2007, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by sickcough:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kaxen6:
I like the fight system. It is very fun to play, IMO. I love hitting people when they start cowering *insensitive*

You been playing it? That's another thing I've noticed recently that angers me.. I kill all but 1 guard and he runs away in terror.. great but.. he comes back, and stands a bit off and I just go up 1v1 and kill him too. I wish he would run over there to that big group of guards and bring them towards me making it more interesting. lol yeh I've killed 15-20 guards within sight of a group of 12-15 formation of guards and they didn't do anything.. quite appalling AI don't you think? Well no, it's just one of many facets of AI and with AI being the most complex part of a videogame I can't call it appalling as most of the time it's phenomenal in comparison to other games. In programming you have to 'think' of these instances and it's exponentially more difficult when you make a game with social reactions such as this one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I played about three hours at the Secret Assembly.

I think in an interview, Jade or one of the developers mentioned that they used to have guards call for back-up, but it caused fights to almost never end. I'm not perfectly sure.

When I was doing a freeing mission, I beat up the guards who were harassing the woman, but then other guards did notice and then I had to kill them too. Then I had to shimmy up to the roof and kill an archer who also noticed.

synergy23
11-12-2007, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Sploivik

Main concern on Fight AI:"Why soldiers attack u
1 by 1"
lemme tell u why:
-thers a chance that instead of slicing Altair u slice ur comrade http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif im tired of hearing people complain about it! its an awesome game and the fight system is realistic like u said dude i agree completly
-All at once is too messy
-they all surround Altair so he wouldnt getaway
-all at once is way too hard, this game is based on real life situations, the main char isnt a super powerd hero
like other games u've played
-besides ppl will complain its too hard if they do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
btw ive cn vids where they DO attack him at the same time im tired or hearing people compalin. the fight system is fine and theres no reason to complain http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Ace426
11-12-2007, 02:52 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif How does every one get AC? i thought release was tomorrow

tantalis7
11-12-2007, 03:21 PM
this was the CRUSADES.. that's what YOU DID. You arrested and interrogated people just for looking at you the wrong way using torture.

give me a creditable source which has proof of this occurring.

sickcough
11-12-2007, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by tantalis7:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> this was the CRUSADES.. that's what YOU DID. You arrested and interrogated people just for looking at you the wrong way using torture.

give me a creditable source which has proof of this occurring. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wow, seriously? do you know how to use search? just because for some reason I'm a glutton for punishment and argue with idiots; what do you think the Crusades were? To convert foreigners and reconquer the holy land correct? Well, what if the foreigners didn't want to convert? I bet they quietly left them alone and didn't start a war or anything http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. Oh, let's not forget the beautiful term 'heresy' you know or 'blasphemy' the escape-goat of using torture and public executions by decree of the church. Do you want more? I can keep dishing it out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. If you want specific examples, well now take that up with the church but it's well known the practices of the time.

sickcough
11-12-2007, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Ace426:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif How does every one get AC? i thought release was tomorrow

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no mod talk

Royal.Mist
11-12-2007, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Sploivik:
Im tired of hearing ppl say how bad the AI is when ur fighting. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Main concern on Fight AI:"Why soldiers attack u
1 by 1"
lemme tell u why:
-thers a chance that instead of slicing Altair u slice ur comrade
-All at once is too messy
-they all surround Altair so he wouldnt getaway
-all at once is way too hard, this game is based on real life situations, the main char isnt a super powerd hero
like other games u've played
-besides ppl will complain its too hard if they do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
btw ive cn vids where they DO attack him at the same time

And judging by you're spelling/punctuation/grammar, your 7. Just the target audience of almost every single game released regardless of rating.

I hope when you get older you can enjoy playing games designed for seven year olds too.

( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif edited because I couldn't spell.... but I just woke up, ha!)

sickcough
11-12-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Royal.Mist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sploivik:
Im tired of hearing ppl say how bad the AI is when ur fighting. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Main concern on Fight AI:"Why soldiers attack u
1 by 1"
lemme tell u why:
-thers a chance that instead of slicing Altair u slice ur comrade
-All at once is too messy
-they all surround Altair so he wouldnt getaway
-all at once is way too hard, this game is based on real life situations, the main char isnt a super powerd hero
like other games u've played
-besides ppl will complain its too hard if they do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
btw ive cn vids where they DO attack him at the same time

And judging by your spelling, your 7. Just the target audience of almost every single game released regardless of waiting.

I hope when you get older you can enjoy playing games designed for seven year olds too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif ... and I love you. I like this guy, but this game feels like it was made for 7 year olds. I'm watching my wife play she picked it up immediately. Just had to tell her, counter, counter counter.. Look at that 20 corpses and she doesn't even play games often GH3 mostly. But I'm only in 3rd city doing side objectives, have to wait for my friend before I continue storyline. Lol, having my wife grind for me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Strikefromabove
11-12-2007, 08:09 PM
Lol, insulting him for simply spelling wrong, what has the forums come to.

Anyway, I honestly think the fight system looks great and should be fun.