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WWMaxGunz
12-28-2006, 07:19 PM
That's about it. It was up as a issue with no data -either way- but couple quotes saying
it was mediocre roll and 4.05 if trimmed was still slow roll compared to Hurri's sooooooooo

I'd like to know if that has changed. And yeah if you don't trim and don't hold pitch through
the roll you do end up barreling it badly and that don't count as a roll rate test at all.

Hmmmm. I wonder how the roll degrades starting at what speed and what speed gives best rate?

More hmmm. With the new controls that I don't get to try myself yet does that make comparative
differences less?

WWMaxGunz
12-28-2006, 07:19 PM
That's about it. It was up as a issue with no data -either way- but couple quotes saying
it was mediocre roll and 4.05 if trimmed was still slow roll compared to Hurri's sooooooooo

I'd like to know if that has changed. And yeah if you don't trim and don't hold pitch through
the roll you do end up barreling it badly and that don't count as a roll rate test at all.

Hmmmm. I wonder how the roll degrades starting at what speed and what speed gives best rate?

More hmmm. With the new controls that I don't get to try myself yet does that make comparative
differences less?

WTE_Moleboy
12-28-2006, 07:29 PM
Not sure about specific speeds but the Maachi rolls much better now-the 202 is now evenly matched with a Spitfire V and fights between the too are very close<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Manu-6S
12-29-2006, 12:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
That's about it. It was up as a issue with no data -either way- but couple quotes saying
it was mediocre roll and 4.05 if trimmed was still slow roll compared to Hurri's sooooooooo

I'd like to know if that has changed. And yeah if you don't trim and don't hold pitch through
the roll you do end up barreling it badly and that don't count as a roll rate test at all.

Hmmmm. I wonder how the roll degrades starting at what speed and what speed gives best rate?

More hmmm. With the new controls that I don't get to try myself yet does that make comparative
differences less? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My italian friends said that now Macchis 202-205 handle almost like a BF109F. The awful roll rate is vanished. God bless Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Rickustyit
12-29-2006, 01:34 AM
Yes, the Macchi C.202 and C.205 now handle very very well.

Especially the C.202 "Serie III", it's very agile and responsive, has a good turning capability, good speed and it's generally "good" to fly.

Roll rate has improved A LOT indeed.

The C.205 is a good beast, but it's a little less agile, I guess those two MG151 in the wings are the main cause.

However, they are finally two great dogfighters, as they were in real life back then.

Cheers,
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WWMaxGunz
12-29-2006, 08:42 AM
More for me to look forward to then.

I do not have trouble with turns in Macchis in 4.05. They turn very well as long as I don't
pull too much which says to me very good authority without hitting pilot strength limits at
least at reasonable to good speeds as opposed to "it sucks, I keep stalling and spinning!".
All it takes is 1) keep the ball even near center, and 2) don't let speed get below 330 kph
in a hard turn.

The big problem is getting banked over in order to start the turn did take a good bit of time
at least doing it somewhat right, ie bank first then work the pitch to conserve speed. I can't
see just running diagonal stick as it always makes turns nose-high which is dragsville, as well
as running two sets of surfaces at higher drag (wings and tailplane, three if you use a lot of
rudder to correct the tendency to nose up) at which point many post about speed bleed in turns.