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ILikePortillos
09-01-2005, 12:22 PM
Just after I sank the pictured Small Merchant in the Bay of Biscay, my Hydrophone operator picked up an approaching DD. I quickly send a contact report to BdU, left the area and continued on towards Brest.

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My question for those who strive for tactical realism (those who attack anything anywhere under any conditions need not reply) is what would you have done in this situation? It's the middle of the day in calm seas. I made my decision because, even though there was only one DD, the conditions were clear, and a torpedo may have been visually detected. The result would have had me evading him (and possibly others to join) for likely some time. Any thoughts?

fizilbert
09-01-2005, 01:08 PM
Sounds like you did the right thing to me. I try not to tackle with warships. It's a good waste of torpedoes, even if you hit them. I'd rather save my torps for the important stuff like merchants. I would have done the same thing, sunk the merchant and then run off. Let the destroyer waste fuel searching for nothing there.

WilhelmSchulz.-
09-01-2005, 01:44 PM
Dont forget waisting DC's on false returns.

Michiel_88
09-01-2005, 01:49 PM
I would have done the same thing. I usually don't spend any torps on destroyers (too fast, too agile,...)
I always go for the tonnage, so I only sink merchants and big warships. Except when there's only one destroyer escort in a convoy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

paulhager
09-01-2005, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by ILikePortillos:
Just after I sank the pictured Small Merchant in the Bay of Biscay, my Hydrophone operator picked up an approaching DD. I quickly send a contact report to BdU, left the area and continued on towards Brest.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/ILikePortillos/SSGilbertFitzimonsSinkingAft10-15-1.jpg

My question for those who strive for tactical realism (those who attack anything anywhere under any conditions need not reply) is what would you have done in this situation? It's the middle of the day in calm seas. I made my decision because, even though there was only one DD, the conditions were clear, and a torpedo may have been visually detected. The result would have had me evading him (and possibly others to join) for likely some time. Any thoughts?

That's what I would do/have done.

When I shoot at escorts, it's only because I have no choice. An example is from my last mission (Dec 1941). I received a message of a transport at such-and-such location so I plotted an intercept course. Since it was day and I was moving into AC range, I decided to travel with my FLAK gunners on station (IX-C, two emplacements). It vaguely occurred to me that this arrangement degraded my observational capability but I was more concerned about aircraft and I figured I was better off if I could fight back and dive on my own terms. Once you start diving you are utterly helpless against aircraft.

In the event, I didn't see any aircraft - I spotted a DD moving fast at a little over 2000 meters AND it was opening fire. I crash dived, turned to present my stern, and then rose to periscope depth under silent running. A quick check showed that the DD was boring in straight for my location. I downed scope and set the stern tubes for 5 meters (I think the DD had 4.2 meter draft), 1 degree spread and then listened. The DD kept closing but it didn't ping. At some point I lost it - I ceased getting hydrophone reports. Obviously it was in my baffles. All stop. There it was, riding right up my ***, close range. I thought, "Mother of mercy, can this be the end of little Rico?" and I even heard it in my head in Edward G. Robinson' voice. I was afraid to move for fear that it would alert the DD that was still not pinging. I just floated there and waited. I began to hear screw sounds. It was the sound of my career coming to an end. I was waiting to hear, "Wasserbombe, Herr Kaleun," but nothing happened. The screw sound grew to a creshendo and then, dimenuendo, began to receed.

Number 4 tube I normally have loaded with a steam torp. I quickly set it for 5 meters, max speed, and then up scope. I snap fired it a point blank range and immediately downed scope. A few seconds later I heard the satisfying sound of a detonation. Up scope. Got him in the stern. He was still moving but noticably slowing. His stern began to settle and I got the ship destroyed message. A close one.

lecek
09-01-2005, 08:43 PM
You can't report a single DD to BDU.

Your guy will say 'report sent' but he doesn't send anything.

If you want to confirm this, instead of sending the contact report via officer orders, press 'm' and press the send contact button. Watch as nothing happens.

The only thing you can send contact report for is a convoy.

stankhammer7
09-01-2005, 11:07 PM
You sent a contact report within its presence, may as well cracked some light sticks and attached them to your periscope and raise it full mast and crank up your gramophone.

vanjast
09-02-2005, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by stankhammer7:
You sent a contact report within its presence, may as well cracked some light sticks and attached them to your periscope and raise it full mast and crank up your gramophone.

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Not to mention the crew dancing on the deck with lit hand-flares in one hand and a large beer in the other, all singing at the top of their voices
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ILikePortillos
09-02-2005, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by lecek:
You can't report a single DD to BDU.

Thanks for the info. You would think BdU would like to know anything you could provide them.

I'll keep that in mind. I guess I'd have to plead guilty on sending a radio message with a destroyer in audible range, but I figured if he started searching for me, I'd engage him. As it turns out, he just kept along on his normal course. I guess he wasn't tuned to my frequency. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif