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Hanglands
05-27-2007, 10:22 AM
Hi,

Can anyone tell me what the three objects on the Regia Aeronautica roundel signify please?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Italy-Royal-Airforce.svg

Are they some kind of axe?

Thanks for any help.

Regards.

MEGILE
05-27-2007, 10:25 AM
Stenn Guns?

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tigertalon
05-27-2007, 10:28 AM
No, they present a bundle of wooden sticks (I don't know the correct English expression). Fascio ( -> fashism) means the same in Italian (AFAIK), and the philosophy behind it is, that a bundle is always stronger, if tied together, compared to many single sticks...

Any experts correct/supplement me?

Lodovik
05-27-2007, 10:29 AM
It's an ancient Roman symbol, the fasces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces).

Hanglands
05-27-2007, 11:55 AM
Excellent.

Many thanks for that.

Regards.

T_O_A_D
05-27-2007, 12:13 PM
Thanks, for asking, I've wondered that too, but never bothered to ask.

Hanglands
05-27-2007, 12:37 PM
I always though they were some kind of knife.

But a friend at work (who reads loads of stuff about the Roman Empire) was going on about these things that the Romans had that gave their name to the word 'fascism'.

Only instead of a bundle of sticks, he said they were Roman axes or somesuch things, and were tied in with the expression 'death of axes' or something similar.

Another mystery solved! Though you could push it and ask what significance is there to there being three of them?

BfHeFwMe
05-27-2007, 06:08 PM
The fascist Italian government adopted it with the same symbolism in mind, supremacy of the state. The original national air markings had three, they symbolized the three holders of power in the Italian state, King, Parliament, and Mussolini & Party. After the split, the Kings was removed, hence you get the new square one with only two. The King sided with the allies, and Mussolini wasn't about to admit losing the Parliament.

Hanglands
05-28-2007, 02:41 AM
Top notch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Many thanks.

Regards.

JtD
05-28-2007, 02:52 AM
Apparently "fascist" is derived from that. How did this come? Imported via Italy?

SUPERAEREO
05-28-2007, 04:01 AM
Yes, since the first fascist regime started in Italy in 1922 the English word fascism is derived directly from the Italian "fascismo".