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U-551 Kapitan
01-27-2005, 09:55 AM
Not much to do with u-boats (looking out for a u-boat skippers hat though!) but I thought I'd display the collection of stuff I've gained from eBay. As I say, no u-boat or even German helmets (too pricey) and I think I used up as much free space as I possibly can.

OK, here's the entire collection:
http://tinypic.com/1grq61

My first buy was this Vietnam M1 helmet:
http://tinypic.com/1grqbr

Second came the WW2 US Airborne M1C helmet, with insignia displaying the BoB stars, Easy Co of 506th PIR. Probably my most prized item, I got it in different sections to cut down on cost. First I got the shell, then liner, then leather chinstrap (which I'm hoping to dye a darker colour) then net and the scrim stuff to go in the net, then the chincup at the bottom. One thing left to get is the A frames in order to attach the chincup to the helmet liner, (I'll have to get that professionally attached http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif):
http://tinypic.com/1grqep

Next, I got a 1972 issue turtle helmet from the tommies. It isn't one of the finest helmets out there, but I liked how the bearer of this helmet had gone overboard on the camoflauge! I used some of the scrim for this on other helmets, (I really needed to balance it out!):
http://tinypic.com/1grqkn

I then managed to procure the Legion of Merit, an American medal, one of the only ones which could be issued to soldiers from different countries and arguably one of the most beautfiul medals out there (wanted the Medal of Honor, but the price tag put me off http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif):
http://tinypic.com/1grqlv

I turned my attention to more paratroop helmets and I found a very cheap British one complete with its own net, however missing it's chinstrap. It was dated 1952, but I was grateful, because I saw a 1945 issue go for a LOT more:
http://tinypic.com/1grqja

And just the other day, my gun came! Btw, this is NOT a real gun, its an electric airsoft bb gun, made by Tokyo Marui. Semi automatic Beretta M9, modelled after the famous current issue sidearm of US soldiers, (btw, does anyone know what the british current issue is?):
http://tinypic.com/1grqqt

blue_76
01-27-2005, 10:16 AM
nice collection Kaptain! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

personally, I'd prefer a luger..


http://www.adamsguns.com/648.jpg

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stevenwhiting
01-27-2005, 10:19 AM
Where did you get the head of the Terminator? And I have a blank firing chrome Beretta 92F for sale if your in the UK and interested.

We had a luger years ago, I'm sure it was a toy but I don't like lugers, they look ****.

U-551 Kapitan
01-27-2005, 10:25 AM
Walther P38s look good. Nice and compact. Apparently blank firing guns are dangourous though, aren't they? I'd end up killing myself with something like that, I've had my fair share of BB pellet welts in the past [shudders after thinking of the last time when it was a point blank range]. Anyway, if it's on the high side of 50, I can't afford it.

Messervy
01-27-2005, 10:26 AM
Nice collection! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I want a German M 36 helmet. What is the price of those and where can I get it?

Ah..and please next time you post pictures, do post real ones not thumbnails. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

U-551 Kapitan
01-27-2005, 10:30 AM
Terminator head came from eBay too, a resin model with no box, and only a polaroid picture to use to get the colours right.

Btw, I'm a really big Beretta freak. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. I want a gas powered one (I've seen a Resident Evil, S.T.A.R.S. issue 92F one for 100, but as I say, thats above my budget)

I sometimes get confused with Berettas, what are they? M9? M92? 92? M92F? 92F? M92FS? 92FS?

finchOU
01-27-2005, 10:32 AM
I think the helmets are pretty cool, Medals on the other hand (fake or not) is a big no no in my book.....

medals are earned in battle, hard work or even death......money on the other hand does not "earn" the right to have medals!

U-551 Kapitan
01-27-2005, 10:35 AM
Not familiar with M36 helmets, but I know M38, M42 from eBay. You can literally get ANYTHING off eBay if you wait long enough, as for the prices, some dozy idiot will soon enough put one up for 0.01. (but then you got to compete ferociously with other like minded collectors, got to remember every other collector is your enemy.) I see helmets go for 100-200, maybe more if it's complete with no scratches or it has insignia. (I saw a Fallschirmjager <hey, spelt right for once!!!> helmet for sale for 1,500...and someone bid on it!!!)

stevenwhiting
01-27-2005, 10:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by U-551 Kapitan:
Walther P38s look good. Nice and compact. Apparently blank firing guns are dangourous though, aren't they? I'd end up killing myself with something like that, I've had my fair share of BB pellet welts in the past [shudders after thinking of the last time when it was a point blank range]. Anyway, if it's on the high side of 50, I can't afford it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its only dangerous if you actually load it and fire it at someone at very close range. If you did that you shouldn't be even thinking of owning one. Its not a toy so shouldn't be played with. If you did buy it I'd just hold onto the blanks so you couldn't fire it unless you brought your own. Its perfectly legal though, aslong as you leave it in the house and don't stupidly take it out with you. It can't be converted so thats another reason its perfectly legal.

Anyway, price is 200 so I doubt you'd want it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.nreynolds.me.uk/pictures/gun1.jpg

Why the high price. Well currently its unavalible in UK stores. The Home Office has recalled all blank firers to test they can't be converted. Only 3 blank pistol have been released from this and the Beretta isn't one of them. Its been 2 years since they did this so it could be a while before they come on the market again. Plus mine is fine, as its been deemed as not convertable.

http://www.nreynolds.me.uk/pictures/berreta.jpg

U-551 Kapitan
01-27-2005, 10:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by finchOU:
medals are earned in battle, hard work or even death......money on the other hand does not "earn" the right to have medals! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's why you buy unissued ones (well, I didn't). Can't claim its yours if it doesn't have your name written on it. I never claim to be the person mine is assigned to. My name is not... GRACO - GI. My name is SMITH - GI. If someone wishes to sell on their old medals, they have every right to.

U-551 Kapitan
01-27-2005, 10:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stevenwhiting:
If you did that you shouldn't be even thinking of owning one. Its not a toy so shouldn't be played with. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I love playing.

suzukigsx600f
01-27-2005, 11:07 AM
real Beretta hand guns are ****... before the ban came in in the uk i hade a 9mm 92F and it jammed on me sometimes and it cracked the slide release two times, after this happened i got a ex police CZ 75 9mmm this is the best handgun in the world and i have shot most modern hand guns

i had the cz75 for 3 years and i shot thousands of rounds with this gun and it never jamed once. i also had a 357 magnum Smith & wesson
revolver this also jammed more times than not
very powerful gun but in the real world if i had to carry a gun say if i was police officer
i would go for the cz EVERY TIME....

U-551 Kapitan
01-27-2005, 12:12 PM
Btw, I always thought the lanyard ring on Berettas was on the magazine, not on the base. My gun doesn't exactly handle like a real one. The magazine is a banana shaped one, and there's a button under the trigger guard to power the electric motor. Also, the slide moves back far too easy and there's no safety (but you do have to press and hold the motor trigger and then squeeze normal trigger to fire) The finish on the gun is nothing special IMO, and if you look closer, you can tell it's plastic. Feels wierdly lightweight too. I'm not really a fan of plastic BB guns, since the plastic guns I had in the past all broke on me. (Both Berettas, one silver duplicate of the one I have, and a smaller Tomcat, I think.)

SailorSteve
01-27-2005, 02:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by suzukigsx600f:
real Beretta hand guns are ****... before the ban came in in the uk i hade a 9mm 92F and it jammed on me sometimes and it cracked the slide release two times, after this happened i got a ex police CZ 75 9mmm this is the best handgun in the world and i have shot most modern hand guns

i had the cz75 for 3 years and i shot thousands of rounds with this gun and it never jamed once. i also had a 357 magnum Smith & wesson
revolver this also jammed more times than not
very powerful gun but in the real world if i had to carry a gun say if i was police officer
i would go for the cz EVERY TIME.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I had a Beretta for a while, and it seemed like every third or fourth shot one of the several (!) safeties would come on, all by itself. I could just picture this happening in a real fight..."Excuse me, time out while I reset the safety...just one more minute".

I got rid of the thing post-haste. I love my .45.

Farside498
01-27-2005, 02:37 PM
The current issue pistol is the L9a1 Browning

Poacher886a
01-28-2005, 04:34 AM
How does a smith& Weston revolver jam???,this is why the police used revolvers,they can't jam!
Also i have shot the luger,which is very nasty to shoot,it has alot of muzzle flip.
The current sidearm of the British army,the Browning 9m,is a gem and i have experienced no problem's with this!
The pistol ban in Britian was a complete nee jerk reaction,inhanced by the paper's with head line's like WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT A PISTOL UNLESS TO KILL OR MAIME.(The Sun).
Of course the ****** politicians in this country,who don't enjoy shooting,**** there pants and ban pistol's
Since then there has been a 140% rise in armed crime and of course no re-voke on the desision.
Look at Swiss,they have the hightest gun/per person in the world and yet one of the lowest crime rates!!!!
Its the people that kill not the weapon.

U-551 Kapitan
01-28-2005, 09:15 AM
Yeah!!!
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

U-551 Kapitan
01-28-2005, 09:58 AM
btw, what is the red mark on the side of a beretta for? Theres always a small red dot at the back on each side, and I've never known what it does.

Poacher886a
01-28-2005, 02:50 PM
Its to show you if the safety's on or not.

Pr0metheus 1962
01-28-2005, 10:15 PM
Nice collection. I've been collecting militaria for some time too. I have an entire WW1 British O/R infantry uniform for reenacting, all original army issue, most of it WW1 dated. One of these days I'll get the digital camera out and take some pics of it all.

I also have a 1700s outfit for those Colonial Williamsburg vacations, and a 14th Century outfit for Renaissance Fairs. Next on the agenda is a nice Elizabethan outfit and a pirate outfit.

scourtney2
01-29-2005, 12:10 AM
Hey, if I could figure out how to post pictures, I would show you all my M1 garand and about the four million accessories I have to go with it! Sailor Steve..AMEN TO YOU SIR!! I have NEVER shot a 9mm I liked and the Berretta m9 is a travesty of a weapon! I will ALLWAYS prefer the 1911-a1 .45 caliber Colt Automatic Pistol! IN fact, many of our United States Marines refused to turn in their 45's in 1985 when the Beretta was adopted as standard issue. The m9 is notorious for reliability issues and their is even a Navy SEAL rhyme for them.. "Your not a SEAL 'till you eat Italian Steel!" This becasue the slide stops would fracture on firing a apparently numerous SEALS where injured when the slide flew back and crushed them in the face!

To the Luger, I wish I had one! I have an uncle who owns one that he got FREE from a friend. It was made in 1911 and issued to a Romanian (I believe) Police Departement in 1920's or 30's. NOt sure if it ever saw a Nazi hand.

Dominicrigg
01-29-2005, 12:26 AM
My girlfriend still has her schoolgirl outfit, and she is agressive sometimes, does that count as militaria? heheh im so glad she doesnt use forums :P

U-551 Kapitan
01-29-2005, 05:27 AM
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@Beery,
That collection would mount up to a lot of money. Probably 100 for each uniform on eBay, out of eBay, that would surely be even higher. I've always wanted to get into reenacting (obviously too young though) but I doubt I'll ever have enough free time, (all of that is spent here). I wish I could see you in your pirate outfit!

@scourtney,
I mainly like the Beretta for its grip. This is how I hold it:
http://tinypic.com/1hd0mf
as opposed to the 'other hand on mag' approach. The cureved trigger guard lets me put my finger on there without slipping, which happens a lot with my other guns (springer Walther P99 and H&K (guessing) P8 (this is same design as USP, sort of, but I never heard of it before). I just find bracing myself on the magazine naff, instead I opt for the Bruce Willis approach as he holds his gun (only I'm right handed) in Die Hard.
As for a real Beretta, I've never fired one, so I can't really defend it, but this gun hasn't jammed on me yet (no matter how many times I pull the slide back http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif)

@Dom,

Urm...not much to say, only the usual http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

U-551 Kapitan
01-29-2005, 05:45 AM
@scourtney,

Go to www.tinypic.com (http://www.tinypic.com) for free pic hosting. Click on browse, find the pic, then click on host it. Once done, take the [IMG] option when you scroll down and type that into a reply box. Should work.

macker33
01-29-2005, 07:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by U-551 Kapitan:

I mainly like the Beretta for its grip. This is how I hold it:
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It would probably only work with a revolver but i'd more likely hold the gun at waist height.If the guy decides to run it would be easier to run after him and still be able to keep popping away.
Coolness wise its important not to blink.

Pr0metheus 1962
01-29-2005, 07:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by U-551 Kapitan:
@Beery,
That collection would mount up to a lot of money. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The WW1 outfit alone is probably well over $2000. You can't get the original webbing anymore, although reproductions are now available (they weren't when I got into the WW1 hobby). The medieval outfit and the colonial suit are probably around $400 each. It's definitely not a cheap hobby.

scourtney2
01-29-2005, 11:19 AM
Hey, here is a pic of my M1 garand rifle. If this works, let me know and I will post some more pictures!

http://tinypic.com/1hfcqr

suzukigsx600f
01-29-2005, 11:35 AM
Hi javascript:void(0)
Revolvers can jam at the revolving part that holds the ammo what can happen is when the round is shot it leaves the revolving cylinder
and then there is a gap before it goes into the barrel sometimes unburnt gun powder gets pushed bach towords the bullet chamber and can jam the workings and this can lock the gun solid the only way to fix it is strip the gun and clean.

thats why on a semi automatic all the gas and particles go out the end of the barrel...less chance of foul up..also when you fire a revolver its a good idea to wear glasses as sometimes the particals that dont make it into the forcing cone can come back and hit you in the face revolvers are ****e... + my cy held 15 rounda and one in the batrel

The browning is a copy of the cz..the cz is the most coppied semi auto hand gun ever.. ist made in Czech Republic

U-551 Kapitan
01-29-2005, 01:00 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Nice Garand! The gunmetal is a bit clean (get some soot on it by lighting a lighter under the metal) but nice quality wood.

I'm thinking about getting a revolver (airsoft as my others of course) and I can get a S&W 357 M19 4" Magnum, a Springer version, cheap.

Does anyone have a pic of this browning brit standard issue sidearm?

scourtney2
01-29-2005, 08:14 PM
Hey, I'm glad that pic worked. I'll post a few more. The garand is a new production from the sprinfield Armory. The barrel, stock, and receiver are new, every other part is unissued GI surplus. My bolt and sights are all WW2 Springfield Armory! The metal isn't clean, but I had to up the brightness on that picture becasue it was too dark. The parkarization on the metal is brand new. Using a lighter to darken the metal is an old war trick to "blacken the sights". This is a temporary attempt to make your sight picture sharper by having a blackened sight aperature since every metal piece is the same dark grey. VERY TEMPORARY! I do it before I go to the range and it wears off from handling a cleaning of my rifle.

I also will post a pics of my Springfield Armory 1911-a1 Mil-spec 45 caliber pistol. THis is the best pistol I have ever shot. COntrary to popular myth, 45's have VERY managable recoil becuase they are heavier than many plastic-fantastic 9mm's. Also, it is accuarate as hell! It still groups tightly at 50yds on a benchrest, further than I would ever shoot!

Another gun I will show is my Ruger MarkII with Bull Barrel and adjustable sights. THis is a tack driver, VERY VERY accurate .22LR gun!

The final gun I would like to show is our AR-15. It is a COLT SP1, essentialy a Vietnam era M-16 without full auto fire. Serial number indicates this gun was manufactured in 1968. A very well preserved example and has all the Pre-Assault Rifle ban features such a Bayonet lug, pistol grip, High capacity 20 round magazine, and birdcage flash supressor (compensator).

Check these out!

http://tinypic.com/1hqrk8
http://tinypic.com/1hqrnt
http://tinypic.com/1hqrs9
http://tinypic.com/1hqrsz
http://tinypic.com/1hqrz9

U-551 Kapitan
01-30-2005, 04:09 AM
You should get into reeinacting with that M1/M16. I've always wanted a Thompson M1A1, but I don't think a Springer for 60 will do it for me.

SDG73
01-30-2005, 09:03 AM
nice lil collection you got goin Scourtney! that Colt AR is a nice collector just make sure you keep it clean (notorious jammers).that markII is nice also.got any barrel/caliber swaps for it?

scourtney2
01-30-2005, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I love my AR! Functions FLAWLESSLY! In Vietnam, they were originally issued without cleaning kits because the rifle was suppossed to be "self-cleaning". What a joke! Furthermore, they did not have chrome plated bores nor chambers. The rational was that the gun had not been designed with plating, it didn't need it. (IN actuality, the project lacked the funds to build chrome plated AR barrells.) THerefore, early M16's in the war had no cleaning kits nor chrome plating. I assure you, this example is chrome plated, not that it matters 'cause I keep 'er squeaky clean anyways!

The ruger only has .22 caliber, although I would like to get a larger target barrell that acts a supressor (silencer).

A fellow I saw once at the range had a silenced M4 Carbine (shortened m16 essentially) and was firing it. The range officer told us to cease fire and remove our hearing protection. When that guy (who is a SWAT team member) fired that silenced thing, all you could hear was the crack of the action slapping in the gun and the loud "PANG" when the bullet hit the steel trap! I believe that video game "CHIRP" sound is way overblown. All I could hear was the bolt smacking closed on the next round. It was amazing.

Poacher886a
01-31-2005, 08:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by scourtney2:
Yeah, I love my AR! Functions FLAWLESSLY! In Vietnam, they were originally issued without cleaning kits because the rifle was suppossed to be "self-cleaning". What a joke! Furthermore, they did not have chrome plated bores nor chambers. The rational was that the gun had not been designed with plating, it didn't need it. (IN actuality, the project lacked the funds to build chrome plated AR barrells.) THerefore, early M16's in the war had no cleaning kits nor chrome plating. I assure you, this example is chrome plated, not that it matters 'cause I keep 'er squeaky clean anyways!

The ruger only has .22 caliber, although I would like to get a larger target barrell that acts a supressor (silencer).

A fellow I saw once at the range had a silenced M4 Carbine (shortened m16 essentially) and was firing it. The range officer told us to cease fire and remove our hearing protection. When that guy (who is a SWAT team member) fired that silenced thing, all you could hear was the crack of the action slapping in the gun and the loud "PANG" when the bullet hit the steel trap! I believe that video game "CHIRP" sound is way overblown. All I could hear was the bolt smacking closed on the next round. It was amazing. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The M16 is a good weapon now,but like the SA80 it had many teething problem's when it arrived on the seen.!
How does a heavier barrel on your Ruger act as a Moderator?
The guy shooting the Moderated M4,must have been using Sub-sonic ammunition,otherwise you will always hear the large sonic-boom,moderators only work down range unless you are using sub-sonic's,this of course greatly reduces its effective range!.
To the chap who wanted the Thompson..I shot one in hungerford range,nice weapon,much heavier than you'd think.

U-551 Kapitan
01-31-2005, 09:35 AM
Some chap?! How dare you! My name is Mr U-551 Kapitan!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Yeah I heard they were really heavy, so it wouldn't be very ergonomical in the field, but I love the sound they make (well, according to BoB). If I get into reeinacting, screw the Sten, I want a Thompson! Called a broomstick, and perfect for decimating the enemy in trenches. It will have bad recoil though does it?

Poacher886a
01-31-2005, 09:56 AM
No,the recoil is steady due to the 45pistol bullets and the weight of the smg,unlike the Sterling which climbs high right!!
The tommy is quite slow firing so is an accurate weapon,the same as the Bren which is my fav!!
Sorry about your name Kaptin!!!

U-551 Kapitan
01-31-2005, 10:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Poacher886:
No,the recoil is steady due to the 45pistol bullets and the weight of the smg,unlike the Sterling which climbs high right!!
The tommy is quite slow firing so is an accurate weapon,the same as the Bren which is my fav!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Slow as the Bren gun? Huh. I knew it was slow for an SMG, but I never knew it was really slow.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Poacher886:
Sorry about your name Kaptin!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

D@amn straight. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif [It's spelt K-A-P-T-I-A-N http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif] EDIT: Ummm, K-A-P-I-T-A-N http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Dominicrigg
01-31-2005, 10:54 AM
My English grandad was a bren gunner in WW2. He had to get on the beach at anzio with a bren gun! Never told me much about it though cept what happened to his poor friend carrying the ammo, which i wont go into here.

macker33
01-31-2005, 11:29 AM
If you are so into military stuff Kapitan why dont you join the reserves,you wont regret it.

bertgang
01-31-2005, 12:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dominicrigg:
My English grandad was a bren gunner in WW2. He had to get on the beach at anzio with a bren gun! Never told me much about it though cept what happened to his poor friend carrying the ammo, which i wont go into here. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know a zone near Anzio now called "Campo di Carne" (field of meat); people like your grandad knows why.

scourtney2
01-31-2005, 07:49 PM
Thompson with a slow rate of fire?? On the contrary, the thompson had a very respectable rate of fire depending on the model. The m1 and m1a1 thompsons ranged roughly from 700-900 rounds per minute. In fact, many early thompsons were pulled from militrary service due to excessive rate of fire (greater than 900). It was a change in AMMUNITION PROPELLANT that actually finaly remedied this issue. The thompson could empty the 30 round stick magazine in less than 3 seconds.

TO POACHER, yes you are right about the M4. I believe the SWAT member with the silenced carbine said they reduce the powder in the cartridge by 30-40 percent in order to acheive a sub-sonic round. Yes range is reduced, but the weapon is intended for close quarters combat. They compensate for power by increasing the grain weight of the bullet to effectivly have a silenced sub-machine gun that fires rifle cartridges.

Also, I was unclear in my Ruger silencer comment. Aftermarket barrells are offered in America that are extremely long compared to the standard 5" barrel. A barrel of 8-10" effectivly acts as a "muffler" on a .22 cartridge much like a muffler on a car. While not a true silencer, I have heard them and are very quiet. Much like a popping bottle. Silencers are illegal in the US without a class 3 license.

Poacher886a
02-01-2005, 09:13 AM
I am aware of the longer barrel's with incorperated suppresor's or Moderators in the UK,but it was because you mentioned the target/bull barrels that confused me....I new it was hard to get a 'silencer' in th USA'you have to have a serious reason or something i think.??...Its funny the UK has the toughest gun laws in the western world yet you can by 'silencer's' down your local fruit and veg shop(obvious exaduration),but you know what i mean!!

stevenwhiting
02-01-2005, 11:57 AM
I still wanna know where you got that Terminator head from

U-551 Kapitan
02-02-2005, 11:03 AM
eBay. But the seller who got them is no longer a registered user.