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raaaid
03-23-2009, 08:38 AM
oh but they are so beatifull so my dream fueled by il2 of flying high and see stars like precious stones is imposible

hell someone tells oleg that at high altitude there are no stars

http://images.google.es/images...up&resnum=1&ct=title (http://images.google.es/images?hl=es&q=space+walk&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=vJ3HSaqEOtSujAeMoYCHCw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title)

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hell i regret deleting the game now having problems reinstalling

can someone plz tell me at day at waht alt the game starts renders stars?

its something impresive about the game that it renders that if you go very high even at day sky becomes dark

but do you think the stars are wrong modelled?

how comes they dont appear on space walks maybe 100 km high and they appear in the game at 10000 m (both at day)

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and to extend on high altitude isnt it very difficult to take a picture of the space walk always with the sun at the zenith?

most would have to be taken with the sun at other position like this:
http://www.idolreplicas.com/replicawatchesguide/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/normal_speedmaster20professional20first20us20space 20walk2040th20anniversary1-300x299.jpg

i mean you need an infinitesimal time and an infinetesimal orbit to get the sun always on your verticals

why all pictures of space walks have the sun in the zenith as never give a partially shadowed earth

sorry to take my madness to this section but since i deleted the game id apreciate someone telling me at what altitude stars appear at day in the game

so i can always dream its oleg the honest person and nasa the crooks so someday ill fly high and see amazing stars at day time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

raaaid
03-23-2009, 08:38 AM
oh but they are so beatifull so my dream fueled by il2 of flying high and see stars like precious stones is imposible

hell someone tells oleg that at high altitude there are no stars

http://images.google.es/images...up&resnum=1&ct=title (http://images.google.es/images?hl=es&q=space+walk&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=vJ3HSaqEOtSujAeMoYCHCw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title)

edit:

hell i regret deleting the game now having problems reinstalling

can someone plz tell me at day at waht alt the game starts renders stars?

its something impresive about the game that it renders that if you go very high even at day sky becomes dark

but do you think the stars are wrong modelled?

how comes they dont appear on space walks maybe 100 km high and they appear in the game at 10000 m (both at day)

edit:

and to extend on high altitude isnt it very difficult to take a picture of the space walk always with the sun at the zenith?

most would have to be taken with the sun at other position like this:
http://www.idolreplicas.com/replicawatchesguide/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/normal_speedmaster20professional20first20us20space 20walk2040th20anniversary1-300x299.jpg

i mean you need an infinitesimal time and an infinetesimal orbit to get the sun always on your verticals

why all pictures of space walks have the sun in the zenith as never give a partially shadowed earth

sorry to take my madness to this section but since i deleted the game id apreciate someone telling me at what altitude stars appear at day in the game

so i can always dream its oleg the honest person and nasa the crooks so someday ill fly high and see amazing stars at day time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Aviar
03-23-2009, 10:27 AM
It's not altitude but time of day. You can see the stars even sitting on the runway, if it's dark enough.

Aviar

raaaid
03-23-2009, 10:35 AM
yes yes i know that

but one of the things i like of the game is that if at day you go high enough sky will darken and show stars

hehe those dogfights at high altitude were unforgetable, i clearly recall seeing stars at day http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

squareusr
03-23-2009, 12:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
why all pictures of space walks have the sun in the zenith as never give a partially shadowed earth </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess that's because manned space flight in general and even more so spacewalks typically takes place in orbits so low that sun visibility is mostly in synch with daytime/nighttime the terrain you are flying over. I'm no expert but i would be surprised if men ever went as high as, say, a geostationionary orbit after the end of the apollo program.

Extravehicular activity is dangerous enough in daylight, so nobody would take the additional risk of going out in reduced visibility.

Romanator21
03-23-2009, 02:42 PM
The reason you cannot see stars in the photographs of spaceflight and spacewalks is due to the short exposure time of the camera used to take these shots. Our eyes are much better at viewing objects in certain lighting conditions that a camera, especially one for taking movies, could not attain. And then if one did try to increase the exposure time, the earth, spaceship and space suits would be washed out and impossible to discern. That's also why on the movies of people of the moon, there are never any stars visible, but if you were there yourself, you could see them plainly.
IL-2 renders the image as a human eye would see it, not as a camera would see it. This is also why we don't get nice cinematic propeller effects, but just a translucent disk. However, Oleg does include lens-flare, don't ask me why. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif