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mungee
09-30-2009, 10:36 AM
I just had to tell you guys that I've just experienced a fabulous few days in Johannesburg/Pretoria (South Africa).
On Saturday morning I drove from Johannesburg to Krugersdorp's Jack Taylor airfield (about 45 mins drive)and went on a half-hour flight in a Tiger Moth -absolutely awesome!! The thing that will remain with me was the effortless ease with which it literally "floated" off the runway ... real flying!!
And then on Monday, I drove to Swartkop Airforce Base in Pretoria (about a one hour drive) and experienced an aerobatics flight in a North American T6/Harvard (trainer). The pilot (a retired SAAF Harvard instructor) told me that we would start with a "barrel-roll" and then follow that up with a few "loops" - saying that he would check that I was "OK" after each maneuver - gee, they were amazing ... pressure on the shoulder straps during these, and "G" forces when doing the "loops" - the pilot said that we would be experiencing a max of 2 G's -quite something I must tell you - I was battling to raise my arms to take a pic during one of the loops!! Read that WWII pilots "max'ed out" at 4 to 4,5 G - it's given me a new understanding as to what WWII fighter pilots' bodies went through when dogfighting at high-speed.
For those of you in South Africa/those that plan to visit SA, the contact details are:
Tiger Moth flight (R1 200) - Chris Kyle (cell no. 083 303 5622)
Harvard areobatics flight (R1 500) - Harvard Aerobatic Club (tel. 012 651 3852; cell 082 746 5109) or Jock Cameron (cell 082 774 3007).
If you can do these, I can thoroughly recommend the experience!

thegowars
09-30-2009, 12:22 PM
I've flown in both in the UK and they are fantastic in their own ways.

Nice to share your enthusiasm!

Aerobatics in a Harvard really did give me an idea of what fighter pilots went through. It's actually physically tiring after just a few minutes. You have no idea until you've experienced it. Going through it for any extended period at even higher speeds and Gs must have been incredibly taxing.

M_Gunz
09-30-2009, 12:35 PM
Imagine trying to hold your plane on the edge of stall with about 3 G's and against 20 kg stick force!
Perhaps that is why Mitchell made the pitch force of the Spitfire so light.

Badbet2007
09-30-2009, 02:49 PM
Just had the same experience in a Tiger Moth about 2 weeks ago. The smell of the engines, the wind in your face...now that's something you don't get in flight sims. I too was really surprised at the way it leapt into the air. Didn't even know I was flying at first.

GBrutus
09-30-2009, 03:16 PM
Awesome stuff. Been up in a Tiger Moth and what an experience that was. Would love a go in a Harvard, will have to put that one on my list. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Kettenhunde
09-30-2009, 03:24 PM
I was battling to raise my arms to take a pic during one of the loops!! Read that WWII pilots "max'ed out" at 4 to 4,5 G - it's given me a new understanding as to what WWII fighter pilots' bodies went through when dogfighting at high-speed.


Having the controls close at hand in a "tight fitting cockpit" might seem more practical to you now.

All the best,

Crumpp

K_Freddie
09-30-2009, 03:25 PM
Don't they want to fly down to Cape Town... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Is that the T6 they restored down here in CT.. The aerodrome is about 3km from my place... have pics (no charts or tracks though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

mungee
10-01-2009, 01:01 AM
Interesting replies ... thanks chaps! And yes, I can now see why controls must be kept close at hand - the g-forces would exhaust one if one had to be reaching all over the place for these!

if you're interested I've posted 2 short clips of these flights on YouTube (the first time that I've uploaded onto YouTube - hehe!).

The Tiger Moth flight clip is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcYSIAIDL4I

and the Harvard flight clip is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S68MwPtVw8U

I'm definitely going to have to find the time to get up to Pretoria again - to have another one of those aerobatic flights in a Harvard.

GoToAway
10-01-2009, 02:04 AM
I've flown in a Tiger Moth myself. Easily the most fun I've had in an aircraft.

Too bad it crashed on takeoff shortly afterwards.

Kettenhunde
10-01-2009, 06:39 AM
to have another one of those aerobatic flights in a Harvard.

I love the T-6, it is a great airplane.