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robotech
03-21-2005, 06:31 PM
Any of you have this game? Is it any good? It is stable for the most part or is it buggy like Silent hunter2? Seems like a good game to me unless the bugs(if any) make it unplayable.

panthercules
03-21-2005, 07:00 PM
Just loaded it up last night - patched it up right away - smooth so far with no bugs, but then again I've only gotten through the naval academy exams and part of one career mission, and I never really had any trouble with SH-2 either.

So far, game is pretty awesome - having the crew on board with you is very cool looking, and there seem to be a few new things to deal with like crew/watch schedule management that I haven't realy figured out yet but look like they should be pretty cool for the career mode.

Graphics are pretty amazing - just wish they had put people on the target ships as well as you own u-boat - it would be such a charge to see little sailors manning the lifeboats and scrambling overboard, especially if they included any Q-ships/disguised armed merchant ships and sent the crews to the lifeboats to lure your u-boat to the surface http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Frankly, SH-2 was so light-years ahead of any previous sub sim (IMHO) that this one doesn't have quite that revolutionary a feel to it compared to the way SH-2 felt when it first came out - sort of like the way FB felt compared to the original IL-2 - not earthshattering but certainly well worth getting

F19_Orheim
03-21-2005, 11:36 PM
it's excelleeeeenthttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://animatedtv.about.com/library/graphics/mrburns.jpg

Xnomad
03-22-2005, 12:53 AM
Got it on Saturday, patched it straight away and no issues. Had one blue screen of death the other day but I think that had more to do with my PC than the game.

I like it a lot, I don't find it that much more different than SH2 but it seems more fun. I'm off to play it now see ya.

woofiedog
03-22-2005, 05:45 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif The Game <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">SMOKES!</span>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/SH3Nelson4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/SH3Nelson3.jpg

Capt.LoneRanger
03-22-2005, 05:47 AM
The game screws... errr.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/Arcadiac/CloseEncounter.jpg

woofiedog
03-22-2005, 05:49 AM
Capt.LoneRanger... Beat Yah! Do I get the Cuppie Doll! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-22-2005, 05:52 AM
No, you forgot the second round http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/Arcadiac/SH3Img22-3-2005_10.jpg

woofiedog
03-22-2005, 05:55 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif...The Can took my Bumper with this one though!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/SH3d3.jpg

Capt.LoneRanger
03-22-2005, 06:14 AM
Bah - okay. You won.

You can take as many washing machines, as you can carry home on your back. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

woofiedog
03-22-2005, 07:39 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

VV_Holdenb
03-22-2005, 01:30 PM
It looks so good, can't wait to see it working!
I brought my copy today. Installed but
I can't get the key code to work!!

Looks like I am not the only one:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=2881085392&m=8631081492

woofiedog
03-22-2005, 01:40 PM
VV_Holdenb... Did you install the game on your DVD-Rom or CD-Rom? If you installed on your CD... Uninstall and Reinstall on your DVD.

VV_Holdenb
03-22-2005, 03:30 PM
Hi, woofiedog,
Thanks for suggestion, but yes I did install
using DVD-ROM. Cool screen shots thanks for posting even if OT http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PBNA-Boosher
03-22-2005, 05:49 PM
Hey, is it possible to have your crew speak in German, but have the subtitles in English?

blue_76
03-22-2005, 07:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
Hey, is it possible to have your crew speak in German, but have the subtitles in English? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Charlie901
03-22-2005, 07:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
Hey, is it possible to have your crew speak in German, but have the subtitles in English? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Absolutely, it's what I do and I'm learning the German language at the same time!

Honestly, I never though I'd like a Naval Sim and before this game I had very little interest in the U-boat war. Now I can't get enough.

I spent the better half of an hour last night playing the single mission where you have to sneak into the port at Scapa Flow, at night, and sink any ships found there. It was the most intense experience of my PC gaming life! I had to stay on the surface for as long as possible to make sure my batteries were fully charged and my Co2 levels were fine. Kept a good watch Officer in the conning tower the whole time so I could submerege immediately upon spotting an enemy warship.
As soon as my watch officer yelled, "Enemy warship sighted", I could hear my crewmen yelling, "Alarrrrrrrrrrmmmm", as I ordered an immediate dive and the conning tower hatches could be heard slamming shut, and the sounds of my crewmen sliding down the hatch ladder. It's sooooo cool watching your sub dive full speed under the waves, as the conning tower diggs a furrow into the water!

Then I went in silent and as deep as possible in the shallows just outside the Bay while destroyers patrolled literally right on top of me. Luckily, my sonarman kept reporting contacts, and occasionally Pinging them myself, I was able to determine whether they were closing or moving away. At one point I had to shut down my engines completely and watch in Horror as a Brittish destroyer just barely skimmed over the top of my gliding, undetected, U-boat.
I even kept my Attack Periscope down when close to enemy ships so as not to be seen and I was trying to play without external visuals, so I had to keep Pinging the ocean floor, to make sure I wouldn't scrape the bottom.
I was finally detected just before reaching visual range of the Port and I tried hiding on the bottom while the lone destroyer hunting me scanned the surface of the water with multiple search lights. Then a few successful pings later and the destroyer must have reported my presence, cause about 4-5 more destroyers steammed into the area. After what seemed like an eternity of close calls, with depth charges, causing heavy flooding in two compartments and some last minute gunning of the engines, to get out of the way, some depth charges finally finished me off.
I was really having a tough time repairing the flooding compartments cause the noise of the repairs was giving me away, yet if they weren't done the sub would have been lost. So I had to keep stopping the repairs as soon as a destroyer got close.

I'm gonna try again tonight, and I can't wait to reach the Port and cause some Carnage before slipping away. Vengence will be mine! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

panthercules
03-22-2005, 07:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by woofiedog:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif The Game <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">SMOKES!</span>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/SH3Nelson4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/SH3Nelson3.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hey - what's with the orange circle/arrow symbol on the surface of the water in one of the pictures you posted? I didn't see that the first time I played the game, but the next time in I started seeing it in the wake behind me when I had the periscope raised real high - I would like to get rid of it but don't know what setting makes it show up - any ideas?

blue_76
03-22-2005, 08:39 PM
I know its a marker to show the position of your sub underwater.. I don't know if u can turn it off, but since its a external view related feature.. i suggest u turn external view off.. then you'll probably see it dissapear.

RedDeth
03-22-2005, 10:10 PM
CHARLIE that was an AWESOME review of game. you make me want to buy it.


good job great post. and i hate naval sims

BuzzU
03-22-2005, 11:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RedDeth:
CHARLIE that was an AWESOME review of game. you make me want to buy it.


good job great post. and i hate naval sims <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me too. I never had interest in U boats, but it sounds pretty cool now. Is there multiplayer?

Charlie901
03-22-2005, 11:31 PM
Thanks! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


Join the club, you won't regret it!


Yes, BuzzU, there is multiplayer. I believe it's cooperative in that you can fight as part of a "Wolfpack".


B.T.W. the single missions (which you can build yourself and play multiplayer) all run off the Campaign Engine. Which includes a Map of the Whole Atlantic, Med, Carribean, and even the Black Sea. So basically when you design a mission, the whole world is automatically alive, with convoys going about there ways, warships/ anti submarine A/C patrolling, and even historical events taking place at certain times and areas (Dunkirk, sinking of the Bismark). Everything in the Campaign seems to have been programed with the utmost detail to recreating the atmosphere in the Atlantic, including accurate convoy shipping lanes.

Travel the English Channel and prepare to be hunted like a dog. Or infiltrate the U.S. English supply route and prepare to see some MASSIVE Convoys. If your really up for a challenge try to navigate safely and undetected through the Straits of Gibraltar; talk about a heavily guarded area!

The Campaign is what IL2's should have been! Its Dynamic, scripted, and has trigger events built in, all at the same time. Just throw in changing weather and the ability to have Allied/Neutral Countries get involved in the war while your on Patrol and it makes things really interesting.

I'm gonna start delving into manual Target Acquisition with map icons off and manual Torpedo Targeting. It's quite a challenge, even for an IL2 sim veteran. You literally have to drawn angles and bearings on the nav map and plot an interception course, while determining a target ships range and direction of travel, as well as estimated speed. No point in planning an interception point if your gonna get there way too late. Then there's Manual Torpedo targeting. This is a science in and of itself. You have to consult a "Recognition Manual" to get the height of the ship to estimate it's distance, it's draft to determine how deep to set the torp (under hull detonation is ideal as it causes catastropic damage and can break the back of most ships), determine speed of the vessel by timing it in your periscope with a stop watch, decide whether to set detonator to magnetic pulse, impact only, or both. Then the fun really starts, when plotting AOB (Angle of Bearing). Finally, especially in the earlier years of the war you can set realism options to include the posibility of "Dud" torpedos. Whewwww!
Or you could just blow an unarmed, unescorted, merchant ship right out of the water, piece by piece, with your deck gun. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Now I gotta divide my time between playing, reading up on the history of the U-boat war, and watching my recently purchased "Das Boot" Director's Cut DvD. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BuzzU
03-22-2005, 11:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Charlie901:
Thanks! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


Join the club, you won't regret it! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is there multiplayer?

billclarke1
03-23-2005, 03:05 AM
I have bought it and am waiting for my new DVD Rom drive to turn up. Now if some of you go over to the SH III website, you may feel as I do, slightly worried about this game. Seems there are quite a few problems with this game, one of those may be a copy protection program called Starforce, like i said I've yet to load it up and test it, and I have a Intel Pentium 4 1.7Ghz, 512DDR RAM, 40GB HD 5400rpm, Albatron Geforce FX5200EP Graphics card. All I can hope for is that it works without any glitches, I run IL2FB+AER+PF and this game runs fine since I upped the DDR RAM to 512, I plan to go to 1 Gig next.
My 2 cents worth guys.

Bill.

stubby
03-23-2005, 06:43 AM
Charlie -

Great stuff! Hearing my buds on teamspeak rave about it and reading your blurbs are the nail in the coffin. I doubt I'll ever go full-real but as I get to know the game, I could see myself drifting more towards the harder difficulty settings. I can see that this game will put a big hurting on my il2 time. I've seen it with the guys I 'flew' with. since getting SHIII, I've seen them less and less on HL.

woofiedog
03-23-2005, 08:09 AM
panthercules ... Quote; Hey - what's with the orange circle/arrow symbol on the surface of the water in one of the pictures you posted?
As blue_76 has stated... it's the Free Camera View and it marking your Sub's location. If your using the Periscope for your view you wouldn't see this.
There are a few different Views for SH3... such as Next Unit, Free Camera, Binoculars and Periscope.
As far as shutting Off the Orange Marker... I haven't see anyway of doing this so far.

MEGILE
03-23-2005, 08:43 AM
It is a great game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
It was pretty ammusing to stand on deck of the u-boat, and watch the brass band play while set sail on my first mission. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif Stringbags are my worst enemy. Annoying little buggers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
Its my first Naval sim and I'm glad I bought it.

Multiplayer is pretty cool... attacking huge convoys in a wolfpack.
On my first multiplayer sortie, I had enterd a Full real server.
I found ymself in the sub.. but wtf? no external views. So i gave the surface order, and jumped out on deck. I was surrounded by tankers, troop ships and destroyers,ad immediatly they started to light me up. CRASHDIVE!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Its funny to hear the footsteps of the crew as they rush back on board. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Once I was sure they couldn't get me, I called for periscope depth, and raised the periscope to get a hold on the situation.

I'm off to harass some British convoys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I'm currently in the North Sea, but I might pop round to Liverpool, or Gibraltar tonight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

VV_Holdenb
03-23-2005, 09:46 AM
Hi
All working now. Got given a new key by
starforce support. This game is awesome.
I http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif the water and "exploding" aircraft. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BuzzU
03-23-2005, 09:57 AM
I don't have a DVD player, and got around it by using the download option. It's 1.64 gigs and I almost have it all. I'm looking forward to sinking some ships. Or getting my butt blown up. Whichever come first.

BuzzU
03-23-2005, 10:01 AM
Here's the link if you want to d/l it.

http://www.direct2drive.com/product.aspx?pid=193

Sultan_of_Swing
03-23-2005, 11:53 AM
Just fired it up. A quick first impression; It's pretty cool, and it seems challenging to boot. I'm in the naval academy now, can't get the sub out of the channel lol. This seems like it will be very rewarding. Unlike Brothers in Arms, which i am keenly disapointed in.

~S

Dimensionaut_
03-23-2005, 01:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:

Me too. I never had interest in U boats, but it sounds pretty cool now. Is there multiplayer? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes it has. But if you are allready bugged by the bugs in PF, then keep awayfrom this baby.

MP here has two very serious bugs in MP:
1. in very many occasions you don't have the "ready" button. (see it as the PF "fly")
Connections drop regulary (almost every game).
And I'm sure it's not the connection or something, since I also have it while playing with a friend with whom I play many games on-line (CoD, PF, RoN etc). Besides, TS stays alive when the game connections fails.
One time he washosting and even he himself lost connection to the host accourding to the game... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Charlie901
03-23-2005, 01:37 PM
Don't worry about this game at all guys!

The next patch is going to seriously address the Multiplayer Issues and the Devs have been very responsive to community feedback. As for me, the Campaign is so expansive, I doubt I'll have time for multiplay for quite a while.

Also if you can run AEP/PF you'll have no problems with this baby! Happy Hunting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


BuzzU;
Glad to have you on board. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BuzzU
03-23-2005, 01:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Serval_1JaVA:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:

Me too. I never had interest in U boats, but it sounds pretty cool now. Is there multiplayer? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes it has. But if you are allready bugged by the bugs in PF, then keep awayfrom this baby.

MP here has two very serious bugs in MP:
1. in very many occasions you don't have the "ready" button. (see it as the PF "fly")
Connections drop regulary (almost every game).
And I'm sure it's not the connection or something, since I also have it while playing with a friend with whom I play many games on-line (CoD, PF, RoN etc). Besides, TS stays alive when the game connections fails.
One time he washosting and even he himself lost connection to the host accourding to the game... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


That doesn't sound good, but i have a lot of other online play to do. I'll save this one for offline. I assume you guys patched it?

J_Weaver
03-23-2005, 02:12 PM
So, could a guy like me with a rig that has 512ram, 64mb video card and a 2.4 processor have any chance of running this baby?

I really gotta get a new rig. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Charlie901
03-23-2005, 02:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by J_Weaver:
So, could a guy like me with a rig that has 512ram, 64mb video card and a 2.4 processor have any chance of running this baby?

I really gotta get a new rig. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Absolutely!

The fact that you are here means you play the IL2 series which is much more demanding of system requirements.

Remember if you have a slight lag at all it isn't even noticible cause your not flying at high speed like in an A/C.

The Devs have stated that they are working hard to Eliminate all the Multiplayer Issues and they are dedicated to this sim and have been involved with the community. I have no fears that Multiplay will be 100% fixed real soon.

Apparently a lot of peoples problems have been due to having Windows XP firewall enabled blocking the connection. Basically you have to ALT-Tab out of the game and enable your firewall to allow the connection to the server. Once this is done you won't have to do it again.

Besides, there's plenty to do and learn until Multiplay is totally fixed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fish40
03-23-2005, 04:59 PM
The game is simply tremendous! A quantum leap above SHII(which I also have) IMO. Installed DVD-ROM into my pc last night with fingers crossed(I have a Dell), but no probs at all. Tried one of the single missions, which was attacking a convoy off Rockall. Attacked, sinking 2 ships, and then the hunt was on. After about 45 min. of cat and mouse, the cat won. I love this game!

Taylortony
03-23-2005, 05:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Charlie901:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
Hey, is it possible to have your crew speak in German, but have the subtitles in English? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutely, it's what I do and I'm learning the German language at the same time!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hmmmmm I would like to see you slip "Enemy warship sighted", ALLLLLLAAAAAARMMMMMMMM DIVE DIVE DIVE at the top of your voice in polite conversation at a German dinner party.... I can see your mastery of the German language is indeed going to be useful http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cool review http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

panthercules
03-23-2005, 08:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by woofiedog:
panthercules ... Quote; Hey - what's with the orange circle/arrow symbol on the surface of the water in one of the pictures you posted?
As blue_76 has stated... it's the Free Camera View and it marking your Sub's location. If your using the Periscope for your view you wouldn't see this.
There are a few different Views for SH3... such as Next Unit, Free Camera, Binoculars and Periscope.
As far as shutting Off the Orange Marker... I haven't see anyway of doing this so far. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm - I never use the "free look/camera" thing or external views - just looking through my periscope - and I only get the orange thing when I have it extended all the way up to the top - maybe I'll try disabling the free look checkbox in the options screen - I don't use it but I didn't bother to disable it before

Oh, and by the way - I may have spoken a little too soon about the lack of bugs - I just lost about an hour and a half and about 24,000 tons of shipping kills (2 large freighters and a tanker) in a convoy action on my second career mission, to the same bug that crashed me out last night - both times I got a CTD when I clicked the "surface cruise" button on the crew allocation screen - I can't make it repeat it on purpose and it doesn't happen every time I press that button, but both CTDs I've gotten have been from pushing that button http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Also, for the last two sessions now (end of my first mission and all of this second one so far)I've apparently been bugged so I can't man my deck guns - I keep getting some bogus "you can't man the guns during a storm" message, but there is no storm (believe me, I know the difference - I went through a real storm out in the North Atlantic on my first mission, and it was truly AWESOME, but now even in light winds and no significant waves and a clear weather report from the navigator dude I can't man my guns) - that cost me several more kills in that convoy, which I found at night with no escorts even http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

All in all, still having fun with it - just remember to SAVE OFTEN - especially if you ever want to press that "surface cruise" button

DeerHunterUK
03-24-2005, 02:50 AM
Just thought I'd share an experience from my last patrol. I was patrolling off the north east coast of England when I spotted a fishing boat off in the distance. I decided to leave it alone as it wasn't worth the waste of ammunition, so I gave it a wide berth and continued on my merry way. A short while later I'm attacked by aircraft, I'm sure that fishing boat must of spotted me and radioed in my position. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
I'll make sure I dive next time.

DeerHunterUK
03-24-2005, 02:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panthercules:
Oh, and by the way - I may have spoken a little too soon about the lack of bugs - I just lost about an hour and a half and about 24,000 tons of shipping kills (2 large freighters and a tanker) in a convoy action on my second career mission, to the same bug that crashed me out last night - both times I got a CTD when I clicked the "surface cruise" button on the crew allocation screen - I can't make it repeat it on purpose and it doesn't happen every time I press that button, but both CTDs I've gotten have been from pushing that button http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Also, for the last two sessions now (end of my first mission and all of this second one so far)I've apparently been bugged so I can't man my deck guns - I keep getting some bogus "you can't man the guns during a storm" message, but there is no storm (believe me, I know the difference - I went through a real storm out in the North Atlantic on my first mission, and it was truly AWESOME, but now even in light winds and no significant waves and a clear weather report from the navigator dude I can't man my guns) - that cost me several more kills in that convoy, which I found at night with no escorts even http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

All in all, still having fun with it - just remember to SAVE OFTEN - especially if you ever want to press that "surface cruise" button <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've had that annoying CTDs happen to me too. I avoid using those auto buttons like the plague now. Instead, I manually assign the crews by double clicking on the compartment I wish to be manned, it's on page 23 of the manual.
The weather seems to be pretty funny on my system. I get the storm warnings and choppy seas etc. but the sky is perfectly clear, no rain or anything. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

ytareh
03-24-2005, 05:30 AM
Am I the only one who just isnt getting in to SH3 in a big way?!Maybe its because Im a SIM novice but it seems very complicated and 'hard'.Even PF which many say is a difficult flight game/sim you can map a few keys on your joystick ,set difficulty to minimum and go fly/kill.But SH3 seems to lack the similar noob friendliness of PF/SH2.Im ashamed to admit it but I still cant fire a torpedo.Like I have an idea that a "solution" is a plot of some kind but how do you set one up (simply...?!)Also even at minimum -0%-difficulty you still get killed if enemy battleships in the area-that didnt happen in SH2.Is this game basically another LOMAC where ya have to sit in front of 'training video'screen with copybook and pen taking "notes" of what you need to do to even begin to play.That really isnt my idea of fun....yes youve guessed it Im still on uber ammo in PF and wouldnt know my prop pitch from my 2 stage supercharger if it bit me...I just like to start easy and very gradually learn...so is the SH3 learning curve THAT much steeper than SH2 really?Any advice appreciated....(you know how busy/inaccesible SH3 forums are ...)

ytareh
03-24-2005, 05:38 AM
Another 'gripe' about SH3:In SH2 you could set up a custom mission in the quick creator with defenseless merchant convoys...that doesnt seem possible here(and the escorts kill you in no time even at zero realism)...am I correct?

MEGILE
03-24-2005, 05:47 AM
hmm sorry to hear about the CTDds.. I've never had one.. guess I'm lucky http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

There doesn't seem to be much info regarding the advanced aspects of sub-warfair in the game.
Last night I figured out that if I turn the periscope to an enemy ship, and lock the periscope using the button next to the fire button, it selects that ship as a target.
Then ask your wepaons officer to plot a solution, and plot a sultion on the map.
The map will appear, you can check that it looks good, and then order him to fire.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
You can fire manually though.

He is a pretty good shot, but don't expect to hit 100% of the time.

JG52Uther
03-24-2005, 01:17 PM
Hmmm, i was looking at SH111 in Game today for 29.99,but it thought i would check the 'reviews' here first.Good enouigh for me, just ordered from Play.com for 17.99 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.Trouble is this will probably cut into my flying time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif.Also i am away for a week from Saturday so i wont be able to play it.And the freakin patch for PF will probably arrive as well http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

StellarRat
03-24-2005, 02:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panthercules:
Oh, and by the way - I may have spoken a little too soon about the lack of bugs - I just lost about an hour and a half and about 24,000 tons of shipping kills (2 large freighters and a tanker) in a convoy action on my second career mission, to the same bug that crashed me out last night - both times I got a CTD when I clicked the "surface cruise" button on the crew allocation screen - I can't make it repeat it on purpose and it doesn't happen every time I press that button, but both CTDs I've gotten have been from pushing that button http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Also, for the last two sessions now (end of my first mission and all of this second one so far)I've apparently been bugged so I can't man my deck guns - I keep getting some bogus "you can't man the guns during a storm" message, but there is no storm (believe me, I know the difference - I went through a real storm out in the North Atlantic on my first mission, and it was truly AWESOME, but now even in light winds and no significant waves and a clear weather report from the navigator dude I can't man my guns) - that cost me several more kills in that convoy, which I found at night with no escorts even http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

All in all, still having fun with it - just remember to SAVE OFTEN - especially if you ever want to press that "surface cruise" button <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I have to give this game a HUGE thumbs up! It's incredible. I've had couple minor bugs, but nothing that has knocked me out of the game or even cost me a saved game. Just little interface problems that usually work OK
if you figure them out or try them a couple times. I haven't had any problems with CTDs.

The not being able to man your guns thing isn't really a bug. They are just trying to tell you that the water is too rough to use them. It's mis-labeled. They are going to label that message in the next patch.

blairgowrie
03-24-2005, 04:08 PM
I am convinced! I'll pick up a copy on Saturday if my local EB Games has it.

triggerhappyfin
03-24-2005, 04:17 PM
Greate game, BUT I dont like the rough seas inside harbour http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Looks like the developers never seen a real harbour http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif. One of the major things with having harbours is to be able to dock in calm water. Not risking to smash the vessel up aganst those stone docks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Try to dock the sub and get instant damage to hull http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif.

The handling in harbour of the sub is badly modeled too. It dont respond to controls as it should. As a former Navy I have experience on naval vessel behaviour and docking. Poorly modeled http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

StellarRat
03-24-2005, 04:38 PM
I don't think you can actually dock. You can sail into the pen, but then you have to hit ESCAPE and tell it to dock and your patrol will end. The actual throwing of lines and such is not modeled. I agree that the water does seem a bit rough for a harbor sometimes. I think sea state must be global. I just avoid getting close to sides of the pen and hit ESCAPE.

F0_Dark_P
03-24-2005, 05:43 PM
man! i am really peckish at this game, think i will go to EB games and pick it up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

panthercules
03-24-2005, 07:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by StellarRat:
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The not being able to man your guns thing isn't really a bug. They are just trying to tell you that the water is too rough to use them. It's mis-labeled. They are going to label that message in the next patch.[/QUOTE]

I know they're trying to say that the water is too rough to use the guns - the problem/"bug" is that it shouldn't be too rough - based on the visual graphics of sky and sea state at the time, and the "weather report" you get when you ask the navigator, the wind and sea is plenty calm enough to where you should be able to use the deck gun, but you still can't assign men to the gun and you get the storm message - the problem is not that the message says "storm", it's that the game is preventing you from using the gun when the water/weather is not too rough and you should be able to use the gun.

billclarke1
03-24-2005, 07:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Charlie901:
Don't worry about this game at all guys!


Also if you can run AEP/PF you'll have no problems with this baby! Happy Hunting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

At the risk of being labelled the forums doubting Thomas, what do you base this claim on ?

panthercules
03-24-2005, 07:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DeerHunterUK:
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've had that annoying CTDs happen to me too. I avoid using those auto buttons like the plague now. Instead, I manually assign the crews by double clicking on the compartment I wish to be manned, it's on page 23 of the manual.
The weather seems to be pretty funny on my system. I get the storm warnings and choppy seas etc. but the sky is perfectly clear, no rain or anything. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif[/QUOTE]


Yeah - I also sometimes assign the crew manually - however, the game seems to manage the crew shift changes much better (over time) if you use the auto button - if I manually assign them, it seems that I have to go back in every few hours and keep manually shifting crew around or else they all get really tired - with the auto buttons they seem to be smart enough to change shifts and rest themselves every so often on their own. I would prefer not to manually assign crew except when I'm about to start a battle, and not have to do it every 4-8 game hours

billclarke1
03-24-2005, 07:17 PM
I've had that annoying CTDs happen to me too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif[/QUOTE]

What are CTD's ?

Charlie901
03-24-2005, 08:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panthercules:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DeerHunterUK:
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've had that annoying CTDs happen to me too. I avoid using those auto buttons like the plague now. Instead, I manually assign the crews by double clicking on the compartment I wish to be manned, it's on page 23 of the manual.
The weather seems to be pretty funny on my system. I get the storm warnings and choppy seas etc. but the sky is perfectly clear, no rain or anything. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yeah - I also sometimes assign the crew manually - however, the game seems to manage the crew shift changes much better (over time) if you use the auto button - if I manually assign them, it seems that I have to go back in every few hours and keep manually shifting crew around or else they all get really tired - with the auto buttons they seem to be smart enough to change shifts and rest themselves every so often on their own. I would prefer not to manually assign crew except when I'm about to start a battle, and not have to do it every 4-8 game hours[/QUOTE]


Where is this "Auto" button for crew management?

panthercules
03-24-2005, 09:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Charlie901:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panthercules:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DeerHunterUK:
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Where is this "Auto" button for crew management? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

on the crew screen (with the cut-away view of the sub with all the little people figures you can move around into the various compartment slots), there are two rows/groups of buttons/squares sort of in the lower right corner - one set for surfaced and one set for submerged - they are auto settings for submerged attack, damage control, and submerged cruise, and surface attack, surface cruise, and one or two other surface things (maybe deck guns - can't remember) - clicking on them slots crew members into typical postings for that type of activity

and BTW - "CTD" = "Crash to Desktop", i.e., program quits/crashes out and leaves you back on the Windows desktop

StellarRat
03-24-2005, 11:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panthercules:

I know they're trying to say that the water is too rough to use the guns - the problem/"bug" is that it shouldn't be too rough - based on the visual graphics of sky and sea state at the time, and the "weather report" you get when you ask the navigator, the wind and sea is plenty calm enough to where you should be able to use the deck gun, but you still can't assign men to the gun and you get the storm message - the problem is not that the message says "storm", it's that the game is preventing you from using the gun when the water/weather is not too rough and you should be able to use the gun. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm, well when it tells me it's too rough water is coming across the deck and the boat is pitching up and down pretty good. It's not a storm, but I could certainly see where the gun would be very difficult to use without getting washed overboard or it wobbling so much that it was impossible to aim. I guess it's a matter of perception. From what I see the crew would have to secured with safety lines to use the gun when it said it was too rough. You have to remember that only the gunner gets to sit in the seat, the two loaders would have to stand on the deck next to the gun and try to handle the shells (which I believe are handed up from a hatch on the deck hence open to the sea.) This would be very difficult in any kind of rough seas. I've been on a boat under similar circumstances and it was difficult to even use a camera.

panthercules
03-25-2005, 10:08 AM
well, I managed to get over to the SH-3 forums last night, and it seems this is quite a contentious issue over there - lots of folks lined up on both sides - those who think it's bugged 'cause they're having it happen in pretty calm seas, and those who just think it only happens in too-rough seas that shouldn't be called "storms" - I agree that those guns would be pretty hard to man and fire in any sort of significant seas (certainly wouldn't take a full-blown storm to make them unusable), but the seas looked pretty calm when it was happening to me. I'll have to take a much closer look at the situation next time I play it to decide for sure.

Looks like the CTD problem with the "surface cruise" auto button is a pretty known problem over there too

Saburo_0
03-25-2005, 11:16 AM
I'd recommend the Sub sim forums. have seen this Stormy weather problem mentioned there. Seems like it may be a bug. but haven't had time to play or read up on it.

http://207.44.164.159/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=23

Sultan_of_Swing
03-25-2005, 12:06 PM
I'm loving this more with each outing. A very smart, and I might add, challenging game. Nice eye candy too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/The_Sultan/whew.bmp
"whew"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/The_Sultan/Bingo.bmp
Bingo!

noshens
03-25-2005, 12:19 PM
been playing this game for past 4 days, at least 20 hours in total. At first, it was fun but now I am at the 20th mission and it gets less fun. Go to location XXXX and patrol it for 24 hours does get boring.

karamazov
03-28-2005, 05:39 AM
I'm loving this game as well--here are some screenies from my last couple of patrols!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/brandtryan/sun.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/brandtryan/depth1.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/brandtryan/depth2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/brandtryan/sunk.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/brandtryan/town.jpg