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major_setback
05-14-2007, 05:52 AM
There is a free trial version of VFR Real Scenery (real photo scenery of the UK)
for FSX with this month's PC Pilot.
[There is no frame rate hit using this scenery,
as it simply replaces the default scenery tiles,
and Dgen objects/trees don't need to load].

There is only just a small free area to fly around in,
but I must say that I'm very impressed with the results even with such a limited trial.
Low level flight is visually a lot better compared to that seen using VFR scenery
for FS2004.

From some angles the scenery looks unrealistically green,
especially in comparrison to the scenery offered by rival company Horizon.
But for the most part I found that colour was not an issue at all,
in fact I really liked the subtle contrast of
the scenery.

I did some testing over the free area around Shoreham during the weekend.
Here are some screenshots.

At the moment I think that the only area available is vol.1
which covers the South East of England.
I am really looking foreward to the release of scenery for other areas of the UK.

Looking through rain and cloud,
the scenery relly seems to come to life in bad weather conditions:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a01.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a02.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a03.jpg

Trees and houses are clearly visible:http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a04b.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a05.jpg

You can easily navigate by following the roads:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a06.jpg

A Battle of Britain type scene:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a07.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a08.jpg

There is a slight green colour caste from some angles of view:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a09.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a12.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a14.jpg

Motorways are clearly visible,
vehicles can be seen and you can see how the road cuts into
the landscape:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a15.jpg

Here you can see the default FSX scenery on the left side
of the picture:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a16.jpg

FSX flight becomes really immersive with real photo scenery:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a17.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a18.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a19.jpg

Low down, cars and lorries can be seen clearly:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a20.jpg

Default Goose over the coast.
There is a 'painterly' quality to the scenery when seen
close up:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a21.jpg

The free Bristol Fighter that comes with this month's issue:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a10.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/FSX070512a11.jpg

mrsiCkstar
05-14-2007, 06:04 AM
to be honest that looks really blurry... the same porridge down low as previously. that's one thing I never liked about FS is how it only looks good from angels 30.

BaldieJr
05-14-2007, 06:34 AM
Looks damned nice to me.

Feathered_IV
05-14-2007, 08:09 AM
So, is it a 2 dimensional .bmp image that is stretched across the landscape? Are houses and forests flat?

major_setback
05-14-2007, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
So, is it a 2 dimensional .bmp image that is stretched across the landscape? Are houses and forests flat?

Yes houses and forests are flat, which is noticeable below about 1000ft/300m. The flatness of the photo scenery is most noticeable over bigger towns and cities. I would avoid flying low over heavily built up areas with lots of tall buildings. Otherwise the scenery looks fine.

The scenery is built using height data from satelites. The photos are draped over the terrain height data 'mesh' that's built from that data.
The photos used for the scenery are taken by aircraft, the actual photos are very high resolution but have to be compressed a lot, otherwise the file sizes would be enormous (one day though...).
One day, I hope, we will be flying using images from google earth, they would only have to load before and during the flight.

Superluminal_8
05-14-2007, 09:14 AM
Wasn´t there a tv-serie with a seaplane like the one in one of those pictures.He had a little dog,a jack russel maybe, with an eye patch.

John_Pimlott
05-14-2007, 09:38 AM
I don't think it will be too long before there is a good quality VFR autogen package available. Aren't horizon working on that? I could be wrong though.
Best wishes.
John.
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Jaws2002
05-14-2007, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by Superluminal_8:
Wasn´t there a tv-serie with a seaplane like the one in one of those pictures.He had a little dog,a jack russel maybe, with an eye patch.


Hey Superluminal I missed your clever hybrid planes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

great to see them again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Brownba
05-14-2007, 09:53 AM
That looks really nice to me. Wish there were a CFSX!

John_Pimlott
05-14-2007, 10:19 AM
Ah Ha!!
Here is the demo of Horizon Generation X with Autogen:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/John_P/SpitSnowdonia.jpg

major_setback
05-14-2007, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by John_Pimlott:
Ah Ha!!
Here is the demo of Horizon Generation X with Autogen:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/John_P/SpitSnowdonia.jpg

I'm not sure I like it, but it would be good to have some buildings around as you fly low. The airport buildings in FSX are still there when using the photo scenery, and that seems to work well enough.

Chivas
05-14-2007, 12:51 PM
Some of the scenery is very nice and great for flying above 1000ft. The part I've always found an immersion killer is the buildings placed on photo realistic scenery looking totally unrealistic. If they ever find away to blend the 3d objects to flow with the terrain it will be fantastic.

Bearcat99
05-14-2007, 01:27 PM
I always did hate the down low scenery of MS....

LStarosta
05-14-2007, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I always did hate the down low scenery of MS....

Especially when it looks like this:

http://www.msblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/fsx001.jpg

PBNA-Boosher
05-14-2007, 01:51 PM
Grumman Goose.... yum!

nealn
05-14-2007, 02:01 PM
Have to agree with Bearcat on this one. Though MS scenery can at times look fantastic from up high, it disapoints when down low.

As all here, am looking forward to Oleg's next product. Cannot wait for the new eye candy among other things.

Neal

BoratSagdiyev_
05-14-2007, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I always did hate the down low scenery of MS....

Especially when it looks like this:

http://www.msblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/fsx001.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Waawaaweewaa is verry niiiice! I like!

OMK_Hand
05-14-2007, 03:22 PM
VFR Real Scenery is tremendous. Navigating using an AtoZ road atlas is something else, plus there's the increased resolution at 1m per pixel. It's a shame that the first release of the series covers the flattest bit of the country! Comes at a cost, though. Volume 1 'South East England' takes up three DVD's and a CD.

This looks interesting:

http://www.aerosoft.com/cgi-local/re/iboshop.cgi?showd,4552728100,10335

'NASA-Technology for Flight Simulator
This scenery is based on the 'Shuttle Radar Topography Mission' (SRTM). The complete world topography has been measured in February 2000 using two high speed radar cameras that have been mounted on the Space Shuttle Endeavour. The latest version of this data (released at the end of 2006) is combined with various sources to build one of the most detailed mesh sceneries for Flight Simulator available yet.'

It all makes a nice change for honing techniques needed for Il2.

XyZspineZyX
05-14-2007, 03:22 PM
. <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Looks great. The guns don't work, count me out until they do</span>

OMK_Hand
05-14-2007, 03:31 PM
Amen to that. It's a bit like 'going for a drive' as oppose to 'racing to win'. Or something...

crucislancer
05-14-2007, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Superluminal_8:
Wasn´t there a tv-serie with a seaplane like the one in one of those pictures.He had a little dog,a jack russel maybe, with an eye patch.

Yup. Tales of the Gold Monkey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_the_Gold_Monkey)

I used to love that show as a kid. There hasn't been anything like it since, I believe.

XyZspineZyX
05-14-2007, 04:01 PM
Jake Cutter. What a guy. The father from 7th heaven, if you can't picture him. Too bad the Goose isn't in '46. Cutter's Goose would be a great skin

Chivas
05-14-2007, 04:02 PM
Nice shot LStarosta. The cities are well done. The city and aeroport buildings blend well when close together, but don't blend with the terrain on their own or on a hillside where there foundation is missing.

I'm hoping DX10 and Vista will bring FSX to life for me. Then it may be more enjoyable to just fly around and sight see at all altitudes.

crucislancer
05-14-2007, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by BBB462cid:
Jake Cutter. What a guy. The father from 7th heaven, if you can't picture him. Too bad the Goose isn't in '46. Cutter's Goose would be a great skin

Yeah, I was just thinking that myself.

I'd love to see this show on DVD. If they can release lame shows like "Facts of Life", they should be able to release a good one like "Tales of the Gold Monkey".

XyZspineZyX
05-14-2007, 04:44 PM
That's a good point, actually "WKRP in Cincinatti" is now available, and that one was just about a "never get released" due to all the songs that were in the show. But I saw that for sale

Somewhere, Tales of the Gold Monkey is still on tape. Hopefully, we can get it on DVD. That would be some fun

strider1
05-14-2007, 05:55 PM
Thanks major_setback for these and your contributions to the forums in general. Always on the leading edge (no pun intended).
Stunning in most examples but also the blur effect in a few. If this background was married to IL2, I'd have to quit my job for time to play. Otherwise, I don't recall scenery that got my heart pumpin' and my pits sweatin' like a few tracers past my cockpit or pulling off a deflection shot that even surprises me.
There are also the tactical, historical (both human and development of technology in a most serious race for the best), team play to accomplish a serious objective in a recreational spirit, etc. aspects that the "going for a drive" doesn't crank for me.
The tv show---"Terry and The Pirates"---1950's.
Cheers!
Strider1

BfHeFwMe
05-14-2007, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Chivas:
If they ever find away to blend the 3d objects to flow with the terrain it will be fantastic.

Easy, squish em flat and blur em heavily. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

heywooood
05-14-2007, 06:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/pittser.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/weathercessna.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/beaverfallsalaska.jpg

well - I still have my combat sims on the ol' HD so I don't miss combat flying...I just like all kinds of flying...and in FSX night flying over the ocean in a heavy storm from one remote island to another with various failures switched on is something to experience....not combat but in some ways much more involved and engaging.

I think it is foolish to deny yourselves a beautiful flight simulation experience because 'there aint no guns' lol

If I want to shoot something down I just click on the '46 icon on my desktop.

I don't find myself doing that much these days though because FSX even before the patch is a real thing to behold.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/turbine.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/beechweather.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/city.jpg

some 'pits...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/barononfinal.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/portside.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/goosepit.jpg

major_setback
05-15-2007, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by strider1:
Thanks major_setback for these and your contributions to the forums in general. Always on the leading edge (no pun intended).......
Strider1




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Bearcat99
05-15-2007, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I always did hate the down low scenery of MS....

Especially when it looks like this:

http://www.msblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/fsx001.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's not down low.