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Celeon999
05-25-2006, 07:39 AM
Although i already own IL-2 and Forgotten Battles on CD ive ordered me the IL-2 Complete DVD Edition with IL-2 ,FB ,Ace Expansion pack and Pacific Fighters on it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It was much cheaper this way than to buy Pacific Fighters alone.


Can someone give me one or more links to good websites where i can find all i need ?

Patches , Addons, etc. You know what i mean. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


By the way : Ive found this Luftwaffe gun camera clip a while ago.

It was used to train Luftwaffe pilots and shows several footages of attacks on allied bombers or dogfights with fighters.

Before every clip there is a short description of what you are going to see.

For example : Fw 190 D - Liberator and some additional stats like the range between both aircraft and from which angle the attack was commenced.

When you read Boeing a B-17 is meant.

Its about 11 MB and you can download it here (http://s17.quicksharing.com/v/857362/Luftwaffe_guncam_1944.mpg.html)

J_Weaver
05-25-2006, 09:18 AM
www.Pacific-Fighters.com (http://www.Pacific-Fighters.com)

Check out the forums over there. There is a lot of good info and helpful people. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon999
05-25-2006, 01:53 PM
Ah i could had figured this out myself http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif


I cant wait to join the fight in the pacific, fly an Corsair maybe or jump into an Mitsubishi Zero to fight for Tojo and Tenno. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

J_Weaver
05-25-2006, 02:45 PM
Haha, your welcome.

I think you'll enjoy it. Il-2 has it's short commings like all sims, but its the best yet IMO. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

U-731
05-25-2006, 05:55 PM
www.flying-legends.com (http://www.flying-legends.net) & www.airwarfare.com (http://www.airwarfare.com)

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

HeibgesU999
05-25-2006, 09:35 PM
That whole Patch 4.05m BoontyBox thing is a litle confusing.

Also since I patched to 4.04m, none of the missions, singleplayer or muliplayer will load without an error.

I'm afraid I'll have to reinstall.

J_Weaver
05-26-2006, 09:23 AM
Yea, 4.05 seem to be a bit of a train wreck IMO. I hope they will release these last three add-on's on a disk at some point. Otherwise, I'll never be able to get them.

Celeon999
05-26-2006, 09:55 AM
This update stuff looks complex http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif


I plan to install a merged installation. Do i still need to patch Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters seperately to the newest version ???

Or is there a seperate all-in-one patch line for the merged stuff ??

Hartford688
05-26-2006, 10:28 AM
http://www.airwarfare.com/guides/patching.htm

Airwarfare has a huge amount of useful stuff on it.

comanderFritz
05-26-2006, 10:48 AM
if you dont already have the stab mod you'll need that

Frankenstein000
05-26-2006, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
This update stuff looks complex http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif


I plan to install a merged installation. Do i still need to patch Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters seperately to the newest version ???

Or is there a seperate all-in-one patch line for the merged stuff ??

AFAIK the DVD set is already patched up to 4.04M (the M just means "merged" patch, not applicable to PF alone). If not, there's a super-patch which gets you right up to date (4.04) and adds all the addon aeroplanes and maps (the current list of flyables is over 100+ at the moment).

4.05 is actually a paid addon that includes the 4.05 patch (not much of a patch really...), flyable PE-2's and PE-3's and a whole s**tload of missions and new campaigns for the Pe-2/3's. About half the community has it, the other half doesn't. It's only really an issue if you plan to fly online (which I highly recomend, you just have to be careful to join a 4.04 server instead of a 4.05 one...) and you want the future addon's that are coming (Il-10 and some more japanese planes in the next one and a map of Mancuria; the last one will be more of a "what if" type patch including more '46 planes and jets)

As far as links are concerned, the best one's have already been posted.

Celeon999
05-26-2006, 11:47 AM
Thanks everyone http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Frankenstein000
05-26-2006, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Frankenstein000:

AFAIK the DVD set is already patched up to 4.04M (the M just means "merged" patch, not applicable to PF alone). If not, there's a super-patch which gets you right up to date (4.04) and adds all the addon aeroplanes and maps (the current list of flyables is over 100+ at the moment).

Correction: As I now understand it, the DVD will be patched up to 4.02m. There is still a patch/patches (superpatch?) that will get you up to date with no problems...


Originally posted by Frankenstein000:

4.05 is actually a paid addon that includes the 4.05 patch (not much of a patch really...), flyable PE-2's and PE-3's and a whole s**tload of missions and new campaigns for the Pe-2/3's. About half the community has it, the other half doesn't. It's only really an issue if you plan to fly online (which I highly recomend, you just have to be careful to join a 4.04 server instead of a 4.05 one...) and you want the future addon's that are coming...

More info on the new upcoming addons:

Strumoviks over Manchuria

Sturmoviks over Manchuria is a full-featured add-on for Il-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters.

This add-on will add multiple new flyable and AI aircraft for USSR, Japan and USAAF, in addition to a large-scale true to life Vladivostok map. You will be able to fly such famous attack aircraft as the Il-10 Sturmovik (NATO designation: Beast), and the A-20C Havoc, as well as advanced Japanese fighter planes such as the N1K2-J Shiden-Kai (George).

45 Campaign and 5 Single and Co-Op missions take you from locations as varied as Berlin in Spring of 1945 to the ports of Rasin in Japanese-occupied Korea, to the skies over Kyushu islands. Engage German troops on the ground, Soviet Sturmoviks over China, and B-29s over Japan!

In addition, new aircraft such as the Ki-21 Sally bomber and the Ki-27 Nate fighter will allow the user to recreate famous early-war battles, such as the Russo-Japanese conflicts like Khalkin Gol and Lake Hasan (modeled on the Manchuria map), as well as the engagements of the famous AVG, the Flying Tigers.

Luft '46

"46" is a full-featured add-on for Il-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters.

The final add-on in the Il-2 series, 46, is a door to the future. It focuses on hypothetical battles between the Soviet Union and Germany in the year 1946 where WWII still rages on. Both the VVS and Luftwaffe now have access to advanced jet and rocket fighters, revolutionary designs that only existed on the drawing board in 1945.
The player will be able to fly such incredible aircraft as the MiG-9 jet fighter, the predecessor to the famous MiG-15 that gained world-wide fame in the Korean War; the Ta-183, a jet fighter designed by Kurt Tank, the creator of the famous FW-190, and the Arado Ar-234 Blitz, the world€s first operation jet bomber.

The add-on will also include a large historical map of the Kiev region, which will be useful both for the 1946 scenarios, as well as modeling the historical battles for Kiev that took place in 1941 and 1944.

VikingGrandad
05-26-2006, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
By the way : Ive found this Luftwaffe gun camera clip a while ago.

It was used to train Luftwaffe pilots and shows several footages of attacks on allied bombers or dogfights with fighters.

Before every clip there is a short description of what you are going to see.

For example : Fw 190 D - Liberator and some additional stats like the range between both aircraft and from which angle the attack was commenced.

When you read Boeing a B-17 is meant.

Its about 11 MB and you can download it here (http://s17.quicksharing.com/v/857362/Luftwaffe_guncam_1944.mpg.html)

That's an incredible piece of film Celeon - thanks for sharing. It's fascinating, but also difficult to watch - you can't avoid trying to imagine what it would have been like inside those B-17's etc as the cannon shells tore into the plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

J_Weaver
05-26-2006, 06:17 PM
Wow, that is some amazing gun cam footage, thanks for posting.

Celeon999
05-27-2006, 04:20 AM
What wonders me is that one of the B-17´s seems to have two double machine gun turrets underneath it.

I didnt know that their was a version like this.

Or am i wrong ? It really looks like there is a second (half-sphere gun turret) underneath the plane. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

And both arent moving or firing.

J_Weaver
05-27-2006, 09:51 AM
You are correct.The B-17 along with the B-24 had a ball turret in their belly. I had a cousin (passed away severl years ago) who was a gunner in that position. Because it was so cramped only the smallest men could fit into that position. He said he was the only ball turret gunner in his bomb group that could get into the position with a parachute on.

Judging by the position of the turret, the reason it isn't firing is because it is likely empty. (I hope, because you can see several 20mm hit on the turret. It is likely that the crew had already bailed out. This may be the case in many of these videos because od the lack of defensive fire.

Celeon999
05-27-2006, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by J_Weaver:
You are correct.The B-17 along with the B-24 had a ball turret in their belly. I had a cousin (passed away severl years ago) who was a gunner in that position. Because it was so cramped only the smallest men could fit into that position. He said he was the only ball turret gunner in his bomb group that could get into the position with a parachute on.

Judging by the position of the turret, the reason it isn't firing is because it is likely empty. (I hope, because you can see several 20mm hit on the turret. It is likely that the crew had already bailed out. This may be the case in many of these videos because od the lack of defensive fire.


Yes but there are two of them on that B-17 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I thought it had only one

VikingGrandad
05-27-2006, 10:10 AM
Celeon is saying that the B-17 look like it has TWO ball turrets underneath. I thought this too when I looked at the film a second time, but now I think that it is an optical illusion due to the camera angle. If you look really carefully you can see that the turret furthest from the camera is the 'chin' turret (perhaps this is B-17G?), with its guns pointing downwards.

Let's hope that the turrets were motionless becuause the gunners managed to get out...

VikingGrandad
05-27-2006, 10:20 AM
Some amazing (and tragic) photos here:

Battle-damaged B-17s (http://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/contents.htm)

All these planes made it back to base, but of course some had casualties. They were very tough planes.

Check out the B-17's that got back to base with their noses torn off. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Also look for the B-17 on page 2 of the 'Fuselage' section, with rear of the plane almost completely sliced off in a collision with an enemy fighter http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Celeon999
05-27-2006, 10:50 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


Thats some battle damage ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


Here you find dozens more !

www.tarrif.net (http://www.tarrif.net/)


Also check the U-boats in the Atlantic vid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I think SH-3 could need some more powerful explosions http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


The Javelin missile is also cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Celeon had the chance to blow an T-72 up himself with a Milan anti-tank missile.

The explosion was not so powerful like this Javelin (the javelin comes from above while the milan comes from the side) but the turret was ripped off it and flew a few meters through the air http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

J_Weaver
05-27-2006, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by VikingGrandad:
Celeon is saying that the B-17 look like it has TWO ball turrets underneath. I thought this too when I looked at the film a second time, but now I think that it is an optical illusion due to the camera angle. If you look really carefully you can see that the turret furthest from the camera is the 'chin' turret (perhaps this is B-17G?), with its guns pointing downwards.

Let's hope that the turrets were motionless becuause the gunners managed to get out...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif Sorry about that I miss read Celeon's question.

I just went back and rewatched the clip. it's a G model with the chin turret.

Celeon999
05-27-2006, 01:47 PM
Heh i just saw you can also find original user manuals in PDF Format on www.tarrif.net (http://www.tarrif.net).
For example an user manual for an FW-190-B

Thats something for der Silent_O but its in german of course. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif


....We would like to thank you and your airforce that you have choosen the FW-190....

You have 3 war years of warranty on this product.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

For technical questions phone our support hotline 1-500-F-O-C-K-E-W-U-L-F ..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

VikingGrandad
05-27-2006, 04:26 PM
www.tarrif.net (http://www.tarrif.net) is a great site http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Lots of interesting videos - but even though the videos run perfectly, I can't hear any sound http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

The clips open in Windows Media Player (v10 - newest version) and I have DivX installed. Any ideas what might wrong? Thanks for any help http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

J_Weaver
05-27-2006, 08:24 PM
I tried one of the videos. I don't think they have any sound.

tarrif
05-27-2006, 08:44 PM
My videos typically do not have sound because thats the way I've recieved them. My footage mostly comes from the NARA (US National Archives) and is film only. When you see videos on the History Channel that have sound in them, that's because the sounds were added by the editors before-hand.

Rab09
05-27-2006, 11:14 PM
Celeon 999,
If you want to fly online then you will need HyperLobby (where the best fliers play). You can get it here; http://hyperfighter.jinak.cz it is free..
To fly at HyperLobby you will need to patch to version 4.05m (there are a few servers still at 4.04m). Wellcome to the IL-2 world, it is as addictive as SHIII or just maybe morehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Celeon999
05-28-2006, 01:50 AM
Thanks i will ckeck it out but first i need a new flightstick.

I have a Saitek Cyborg 3D but it isnt so good anymore. Cant get a clear 0,0 axis with it anymore. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I heard good things about the Saitek X-52 Hotas but its quite expensive and i do not plan to spend 80 or 90 " for a stick. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif



Ps. : Only a few of the vids at tariff have sound. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6800/x528lq.jpg

J_Weaver
05-28-2006, 09:36 AM
I have an X-45 that I like quite well. I'm sure its cheaper than the X-52.

Celeon999
05-28-2006, 11:04 AM
@ tarrif

Welcome to the Forum. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Ive noticed that one of your vids has a wrong description.

The vid "Maschinengewehr 42" shows several Mg 34´s instead of MG-42´s http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

VikingGrandad
05-28-2006, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by tarrif:
My videos typically do not have sound because thats the way I've recieved them. My footage mostly comes from the NARA (US National Archives) and is film only. When you see videos on the History Channel that have sound in them, that's because the sounds were added by the editors before-hand.

Thanks for confirming that Tarrif - and welcome to the SH3 forum! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Are you a fellow Kaleun yet? (i.e. do you play SH3?)

I guessed that some of the videos were meant to be silent earlier today when I watched the 'Avro Lancaster' video, which does have sound. Excellent footage, great website! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Do you have any more details about the clips? I'm wondering where those Lancasters were bombing.

Frankenstein000
05-28-2006, 07:31 PM
I used an X45 for years and can completely recommend it. I've since switched to an X52 (anniversary present from the wife...) and so far, so good. I'd recommend getting rudder peddals if you don't like twist rudders (I can't stand 'em myself) but some seem to prefer it. Moneywise, the X45 seems to be the way to go...

Like Rab909 said; HyperLobby is a necessity if you want to fly online. I find the rooms are split between 4.04 and 4.05 with a few more 4.05's out there at the moment.

Rab09
05-28-2006, 11:41 PM
Celeon999,
You can get reconditioned X-45s at the Saitek US web site for $40.00us.. Not sure what that converts to..

Celeon999
05-29-2006, 03:25 AM
Well, the german saitek site does not offer the x-45 anymore http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I also cant find it on amazon anymore. They have all other saitek sticks like the cyborg evo for example but no x-45 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Dont know why http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I really think about buying the X-52 now....
Its a lot of money for a flightstick but it seems to have lots of cool features http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

@Frankenstein000

What is the X-52 like ? Handling , calibration etc.

VikingGrandad
05-29-2006, 07:30 AM
With the popularity of IL-2, I'm suprised that no-one has created a WW2-style joystick.

Something styled more like this:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/VikingG/joystick2.jpg

Bobario
05-29-2006, 07:55 AM
Actually, the Complete edition DVD of IL-2 is patched up to version 4.04m, and the only update later than this is the PE-2 Peschka add on (which is version 4.05m). There were some problems with the first release of the PE-2 add-on (I encountered some myself and ended up paying twice) but these have now been resolved to a certain extent. The problems related to an UBISOFT installer called BoontyBox, but you can now buy the add-on from a third party without going through the whole Boonty thing. IL-2 (and Pacific Fighters) is IMHO the best WWII flight simulator on the market, and has a very helpful community at pacific-fighters.com.

Bobario
05-29-2006, 07:58 AM
Oh, and the X-45 is cheaper and has a rudder you activate with the fingers of your left hand (on the throttle controller), the X-52 has a rudder you activate by twisting the joystick left or right. Some people prefer one some the other.

Celeon999
05-29-2006, 08:24 AM
I herewith declare that i just ordered me the X-52 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif


A lot of money, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif but when i remember for how long i had my beloved Saitek Cyborg 3D ... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif It also had this twist axis http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Bobario
05-29-2006, 08:37 AM
I use the X-52 and am very pleased with it, more button combinations than you can shake a stick at. 3 modes, nice blue lights, lovely.

Celeon999
05-29-2006, 08:47 AM
I only heard good stuff about the X-52.

Lots of happy costumers as it seems. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


But my beloved Cyborg 3D will recieve a special honor place somewhere. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I even have the ultra old original version with black stick unlike the gold USB edition that came a bit later http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1572/cyborggold5dt.jpg

J_Weaver
05-29-2006, 07:33 PM
Celoen, here is clip to wet your whistle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/J_Weaver/109Guncam-animate.gif
That's a guncam video I made of me downing a Spitfire over North Africa.

Celeon999
05-30-2006, 02:21 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I hope that the game arrives today but the X-52 will propably arrive by tommorow... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Did you edited the video or is there a guncamera function in the game ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

J_Weaver
05-30-2006, 08:37 AM
Unfortunately, there is no guncam feature in Il-2. (Perhaps BoB!) However, you can save a video of the mission. I used FRAPS to caputre the film. I used another program (can't rememebr the name) to put it in .gif format and animate the clip. Its kind of a lengthy process, but can be fun to mess around with.

Celeon999
05-30-2006, 09:59 AM
"The DVD arrived an hour ago" ....Celeon says as he tightens his headband and claps his hands as traditional Japanese music is playing in the background.

Celeon walks over the deck of the Kyushu looking over to the USS Bunker Hill http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif before he climbs into his Nakajima Ki-43 ,every free space in it packed up with explosives.

He drinks a last Sake before he closes the canopy...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Celeon999
05-30-2006, 10:52 AM
Ehmmm how do i make screenshots ?


EDIT : Found it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Celeon immidiatly checks out some secret weapons of his country and looks for the bunker of der Silent_O http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/58/grab00004lj.jpg
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/6177/grab00020iy.jpg

J_Weaver
05-30-2006, 11:40 AM
Ah, I'm glad you got it! What do you think?

Celeon999
05-30-2006, 12:27 PM
Its absolutely great http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


Ive played Forgotten Battles without any Patches back then and now i see how much progress has been made since then. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


All those new flyable aircraft and graphic/sound improvements http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Now i know that i did a good thing by ordering the X-52. I really need all those programmable buttons to put all those functions IL-2 offers on them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


I just wonder why all important Japanese aircraft are flyable except the Nakajima B5N "Kate". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

It was the most important torpedo bomber in the Japanese airforce and pacific theater of ww-2.

Why is it not flyable ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Is it planned as addon in future patches ?

To finally make the B-17 flyable would also be cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hoatee
05-30-2006, 03:32 PM
No flyable B17 or Kates according to the plan (only add-ons to be expected are those iro the Manchurian border incidents - eg the Ki27 - or iro a prolongated WWII - more planes in the planning stages like the Ta152).

And that film you provided in your initial post makes one appreciate the game that much more Celeon999. You are aware (I hope) that after flying a mission (FMB and QMB) you have the option of saving your mission as a track which you can then watch afterwards.

Frapps is one way of turning those tracks into wmv or Quicktime files but the programme also uses your pc resources and that might be at the expense of running the game decently. It's far better to hook up the pc to a video recorder (most cards come with some kind of video output).

It's a pity I think that the game developers/designers coudn't find some way of combining SHIII with IL2 (series of games) - imagine being able to fly in a Sunderland or taking off in a Wildcat from a carrier to take out a u-boat, etc.

The wishlist doesn't detract from the fun I have, though.

J_Weaver
05-30-2006, 04:31 PM
The reason that there isn't a flyable Kate is because there is a lack of resources to accurately model the cockpit.

The reason that there is no B-17 or other heavies for that matter is that they take up too much time to model. i.e. they can make 4 or 5 fighters for 1 heavy.

Gmuno
05-31-2006, 12:14 AM
A question: this "Gold"-compilation (FB+AEP+PF), how bad will it run at my system?

=> XPSP2, Athlon 3000+, 1 GB RAM, 9800pro, sound onboard, enough HD

Celeon999
05-31-2006, 02:01 AM
@J_Weaver


They couldnt find enough resources for modelling the Kate cockpit but had enough for the Go229 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif


@Gmuno


Should run fine on your system http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif There are enough detail options which you can tweak if it should be not enough.


For my part i wouldnt mind them to put even higher details into the game.

Althon 64 2,2 Ghz ,1GB and X850-XT 512MB getting bored here even with all details set to maximum http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Gmuno
05-31-2006, 02:48 AM
Weell, there's a bit of a difference between a simple 9800pro with 128 and a X850-XT with 512 but thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Celeon999
05-31-2006, 04:26 AM
Correction the X-850 has only 256 not 512 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


But your 9800pro is definitly powerful enough for the game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

comanderFritz
05-31-2006, 08:14 AM
i think the go229 is in us gov controll they coulnd have got goverment files how do you think we made the b-2?

and when you take a screen were does it save to?

joeap
05-31-2006, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Hoatee:

It's a pity I think that the game developers/designers coudn't find some way of combining SHIII with IL2 (series of games) - imagine being able to fly in a Sunderland or taking off in a Wildcat from a carrier to take out a u-boat, etc.

The wishlist doesn't detract from the fun I have, though.

Also the Pe-2 current addon...you are aware type II and VII uboats as well as Gato class and S-class Soviet subs are in the game. I downloaded some Beaufighter missions where you try to take out a coule of Type VIIs. Be aware they are modelled with quad 20mm and are nasty. Not as much as the Tirpitz though. You also have CVEs and can use the Wildcat (found some Martlet skins for it) to hit the boots or shoot down FW-200s...or you can get into a Ju-87 or 88 and hit the copnvys from Murmansk (we got the map) or an up and coming Norway map.

Celeon999
05-31-2006, 08:45 AM
Yeah i saw the subs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

There is a Go-229 in an museum in the usa somewhere but i think these are just parts of it. Just a bit of the hull, no gear no cockpit ,no wingparts. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

It even had an primitive ejection seat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


@comanderfritz

The screenshots are put in the main IL-2 folder.



Celeon has a date with history http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7818/grab00019db.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7007/grab00023di.jpg

Celeon999
05-31-2006, 09:23 AM
By the way :


I never heard of the Bf-109 Zwilling http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
Only knew the H-111 Zwilling http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What crazy things you can do just with some glue ..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1199/grab00009dg.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2741/grab00015uo.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5569/grab00028pi.jpg


Celeon also likes the Volksj¤ger http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3828/grab00036jq.jpg


The reminders for the test-pilots are great http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ATTENTION !

No negative acceleration for more than 3 sec. or the engine switches off.

"Staurohr" shows 10 % less than reality.
Do not more than 4G !

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8123/grab00047ly.jpg

J_Weaver
05-31-2006, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
@J_Weaver


They couldnt find enough resources for modelling the Kate cockpit but had enough for the Go229 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif


Yea, I always wondered the samething. The thing that has always bugged me about this sim that we have a pretty fair number of "fantasy" aircraft, but there are still a number of real aircraft that saw combat that are still missing.

Hoatee
05-31-2006, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by joeap:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hoatee:

It's a pity I think that the game developers/designers coudn't find some way of combining SHIII with IL2 (series of games) - imagine being able to fly in a Sunderland or taking off in a Wildcat from a carrier to take out a u-boat, etc.

The wishlist doesn't detract from the fun I have, though.

Also the Pe-2 current addon...you are aware type II and VII uboats as well as Gato class and S-class Soviet subs are in the game. I downloaded some Beaufighter missions where you try to take out a coule of Type VIIs. Be aware they are modelled with quad 20mm and are nasty. Not as much as the Tirpitz though. You also have CVEs and can use the Wildcat (found some Martlet skins for it) to hit the boots or shoot down FW-200s...or you can get into a Ju-87 or 88 and hit the copnvys from Murmansk (we got the map) or an up and coming Norway map. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure there are subs in IL2 but they are ai only. Sure there are Sunderlands in SHIII but they are ai only. It would be one step better to have those mannable as well.

Hoatee
05-31-2006, 03:54 PM
bleaargh

Celeon999
06-01-2006, 03:23 AM
Celeon checks out the "Mistel" airplane bomb http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Look at the big cutter pipe in front of ther hollow-charge warhead http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I wonder how many kilos of explosives were packed in this thing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8858/grab00016on.jpg

Celeon999
06-01-2006, 03:35 AM
Now i know it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

It had a 350 kilograms hollow-charge warhead http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

A simple Panzerfaust grenade has about 3 kilograms and an 30 cm cutting pipe and has enough cutting capability to pierce the armor of an tank. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif


They attacked an british convoy with 5 of them in 1944. 4 hit their targets and number 5 had to abort the mission with technical problems.

They also attacked Scapa Flow but this mission was unsuccesful. Three planes crashed and the other ones missed their targets.

Gmuno
06-01-2006, 03:45 AM
The thing was meant for attacks against bridges and ships. A strike against Scapa Flow in early '45 was in the last minute cancelled. Against bridges was some success but not overly much, in the short time before release, the mistel was quite hard to steer and many were shot down.

Celeon999
06-01-2006, 03:51 AM
Not only ships and bridges http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


The first and only attack on Scapa Flow in 1944 was targeted on the dock buildings.

The pilots were also training for attacks on power plants and factorys in the soviet union but all missions were cancelled. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif


Somebody even suggested to build an Mistel with Jet engines and combine it with the Me-262 or HE 162 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

J_Weaver
06-01-2006, 01:52 PM
I bet the pilots who shot one of those down got a real blast out of it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Littlecharlie
06-02-2006, 07:51 AM
If you really like IL2 and it seems you do (by the way it is one of my favorite sims of all times ) matrix games has several add on CDs http://www.matrixgames.com/games/?g=2
they cheap and you can download them (after you paid of course) they have more and better dynamic campaigns then the original CDs .;have a look

Celeon999
06-02-2006, 08:03 AM
Thanks for the tip http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


My d@mn flighstick still hasnt been delivered http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Hopefully tommorow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Celeon also plays Half Life 2 Episode 1 these days http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif

Fish40
06-02-2006, 09:12 AM
You could also visit www.Lowengrin.com (http://www.Lowengrin.com). Here there is a DCG(Dynamic Campaign Generator) wich you could use to replace the defalt ingame campaign generator. No need to worry, since you could change between the two just by "ticking" the option.

This generator enables you to set different paramaters for your campaign, and gives you the option of what types of missions you want to fly.Plus a whole lot more. Also, if you're an historicly correct individual, there is a utility floating around which will enable the Swastica to appear on German aircraft. I'm sorry I can't remember where I downloaded it from, But I'm sure a Google search will put you in paydirt!

Celeon999
06-02-2006, 09:26 AM
Thanks will check it out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

comanderFritz
06-02-2006, 10:51 AM
i still cant find my screenshots

Celeon999
06-02-2006, 11:22 AM
In your IL-2 installation folder.

Saved in TGA format

comanderFritz
06-02-2006, 11:25 AM
ill look but i cant find em there

comanderFritz
06-02-2006, 11:26 AM
i only found my saved videos

im a taking screens shots right?

Celeon999
06-02-2006, 01:47 PM
Hmmmm i think so....

I simply press Print and the game creates a screenshot in TGA.format http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

comanderFritz
06-02-2006, 04:41 PM
well i dont know then

KaleunFreddie
06-02-2006, 05:39 PM
A couple of early movies...
Some links might not work - doing a system re-install
Batcar (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/BatMobile.avi)
WonderfulWorld (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/AWonderfulWorld.wmv)
B25-1 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/B25Down.avi)
Bob (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/Bob.avi)
P38slow (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/BombDrop.wmv)
FW190 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/DasVlieger.avi)
FW190 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/DPMode.avi)
FW190 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/Elite.avi)
P40 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/FastFurious.avi)
ME109 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/FullCockpit.wmv)
FWP51 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/FWvsP51.avi)
FWYak3 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/FWYak3.avi)
B25 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/JettisonBlues.wmv)
FlakHappy (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/Ju88.avi)
P51 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/Na73X.avi)
Slomo (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/P38Me109Z_SloMo.avi)
DiveBomb (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/Stranger.avi)
B25 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/Takeoff2.wmv)
Ziparound (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/TempFW.wmv)
FW190 (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/UberFW190.wmv)
Wingman (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/wingman.wmv)

there are a few others, but I'm winging these off the top of my scalp.. enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Littlecharlie
06-03-2006, 10:40 AM
Love that " wonderfullworld " movie ,must be the music

J_Weaver
06-03-2006, 06:19 PM
There is something terribly surrealistic about that video isn't there?

Andre_Olibeira
06-06-2006, 06:41 PM
So Celeon, have you already received the Joystick, I think i want to buy that model too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Celeon999
06-07-2006, 02:20 AM
It still isnt here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I wrote a evil email to the seller today ... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Messervy
06-07-2006, 07:58 AM
Vanjast

What`s the name of the song in "DasVlieger"?

AND I LOVE "Jettison Blues" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif Very "Orr" like.

KaleunFreddie
06-07-2006, 12:04 PM
Messervy :- Both songs are from 'Flock of Seagulls'. I used the beginning part of 'I Ran' and the whole of 'Nighmares'..

Funny, I've had this music for 25 years and still can listen to it at least once a day.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Yeah, that Jettison blues movie, was a funny.
Online, pulled the gear up to early, lost a prop.
Didn't realise that I'd lost a wheel, and forgot about the power of a 1000lb bomb. Decided to drop the bombs and go back.... WHOOPS

Messervy
06-08-2006, 07:17 AM
Man you have awesome taste in music.
I remember the "FlakAtack". I had it on my drive long time ago before I lost all the data.
There is something terminal about that video....
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

P.S.

ever thought about changing your name back to original....just add 1 at the end instead of T.

I have troubles with that...it`s just like you have cahenged a gender. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

blastomatic1759
06-08-2006, 08:08 AM
Just curious whats everyones favorite plane on IL-2 ?

Andre_Olibeira
06-08-2006, 08:32 AM
Bf 109 G-14 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

GrinderX9
06-08-2006, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by blastomatic1759:
Just curious whats everyones favorite plane on IL-2 ? ¨

Me262 A1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

Celeon999
06-08-2006, 09:37 AM
Hard to say , the game offers so many airplanes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Littlecharlie
06-08-2006, 10:34 AM
My all time favorite in IL 2 must be this one the P39 Airacobra
http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/8806/newpicture4id.png

it takes lot of hard work flying it without getting in a spin and alot of skill using the 37 mm cannon , but once you master them both it is a killer ,no wonder the russians loved it and admit it it is a beauty aswell

Scarty99
06-08-2006, 11:23 AM
Ubisoft should merg silent hunter III and IL2 together and make a mmorg out of it!. now that would rule http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

J_Weaver
06-08-2006, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
Hard to say , the game offers so many airplanes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'll second that! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

IL-2 covers such a wide range its hard to pick just one favorite. However, the P-40 and the Fw-190 are two of my favorites.

Stingray-65
06-08-2006, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by blastomatic1759:
Just curious whats everyones favorite plane on IL-2 ?

Well, here are my favorite German planes:

My favorite Bf109 is the G2 because of the way it handles, but I love the firepower & speed of the G6/AS & K models.
http://www.geocities.com/jg52extra3/022805-S17.jpg

My plane after painting our squadron's (JG52) tailband on it. I've since given it to our hottest fighter pilot, JG52~Karaya.
http://www.geocities.com/jg52club/No-I-didnt-loose-a-leg.jpg

My main ride is a Bf110-G2. They're slow & kinda have a glass jaw, but they offer a wide array of loadouts & can deliver incredibly accurate destructive power... especially on ground targets. Simply put, they're armed to the teeth! My best advice to Red pilots... don't end up unawares in front of a Bf110... you'll be very sorry if you do.
http://www.geocities.com/jg52skins/JG52_Bf110G-2Sv2shark.jpg

And Ju87 Stukas are great fun to fly if you like dive-bombing. My personal favorite is the B2.
http://www.geocities.com/jg52extra4/SS_Introduce.jpg

My favorite Allied planes: B-25, P-40C, & IL-2 Type 3M

Celeon999
06-09-2006, 09:31 AM
Celeon likes the Ju87-G1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Arming an airplane with AA guns...

Now thats the peak of irony ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

It also could had been the living nightmare for allied subs and ships if the aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin would had been completed...

The Flak 18 tungsten projectiles would simply pierce through a sub and leave it with thick holes in the pressure hull http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3707/grab00059ri.jpg


Celeon also likes to dive bomb with the Aichi D3A1.

Its not so stable like the Ju87 because it lacks the bended wings and that makes dive bombing more complicated.... *says Celeon as he looks at the photo of the USS Arizona sticking on his monitor* http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif


http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8222/grab00004db.jpg

Stingray-65
06-09-2006, 10:25 AM
@Celeon
Yeah, I used to go around sinking cargo ships with the Stuka G1 too! It worked really well when it was first introduced as a flyable, but they (Oleg & team) must've decided that it was too "uber" & toned down the guns. But I would target a ship at the waterline & pump a few shells into them, taking care not to snag the guidewires between masts while flying over. Then I'd look back over my shoulder to see a delayed explosion (engine, fuel, or cargo igniting). Warships are harder because of their thicker armored hulls... plus there's their defensive armament. If I'm attacking a warship, I'll dive-bomb or skip-bomb it.... or use a He111-H6 with torpedoes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

blastomatic1759
06-09-2006, 02:53 PM
my absolute favorite is the J8 ,i can smoke my roommates with it , no matter what plane they pick , but when it comes to the heavier ones , i like the HE-111 i can fly that thing at high speeds and low levels , like a ninja . the BF110 is cool too though.

J_Weaver
06-09-2006, 03:01 PM
I love the B-25, but do to the ai, it pretty useless off-line. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Stingray-65
06-09-2006, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by blastomatic1759:
my absolute favorite is the J8 ,i can smoke my roommates with it , no matter what plane they pick , but when it comes to the heavier ones , i like the HE-111 i can fly that thing at high speeds and low levels , like a ninja . the BF110 is cool too though.

Yes, J8A (Swedish licensed Gladiator) is a sweet T-N-B plane although its guns are a little weak compared to most of the planes you'll fly against. And you gotta be careful not to overheat or stall-out the gravity-fed motor. BTW blastomatic1759, do you fly online with a squad?



Originally posted by J_Weaver:
I love the B-25, but do to the ai, it pretty useless off-line. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif You must be kidding.... Ask anyone in an online Luftwaffe squadron & they will most likely attest that the AI gunners on B-25s are snipers! I'm not talking about the damage they inflict... we all know how devastating .50 cals are. But try attacking B-25s several times & watch how often the 1st or 2nd tracer looks like a heat seeker resulting in a PK (Pilot Kill: pilot killed by shot through canopy glass). The thing we can't figure out is that there isn't supposed to be any differance in AI between online & off or between any aircraft. Their behavior is supposed to be the same regardless. The only differance should be the damage inflicted due to the different guns. However, most will testify that they do see differances in all these. Personally, I can't count how many times my rear-gunner (especially in a Ju87 or Bf110) has "fallen asleep" or "taken a coffee break to smoke a cigarette & read the newspaper" while an enemy AC has parked on our tail & open fired. Whenever I've come under fire like this, I've jumped to the AI gunner position & manned it myself so I know the gunner wasn't dead or wounded & couldn't see any reason for him not to fire back especially when he had a clear... often point-blank, shot. Yes, I make sure he is awake even before we take off (jump to gunner position & make sure I get the "AI Gunner ON" message). Now take all these occassions compared to every time I've attacked enemy bombers & had to RTB (if I wasn't PK'd) with a plane that resembled swiss cheese.... & I'm a B-N-Z'r! I don't park on their 6... I know better! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

And for those that might wonder, the La-7 & Spitfires are the noob's plane of choice. They're ridiculously easy to fly. Where I might get a single kill with a Bf109, I can jump in a La-7 & get 4 or 5 kills. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Spitfires aren't quite that easy though.

Celeon999
06-10-2006, 04:20 AM
I was right the Horten Ho IX V3 in a museum in Silver Hill, Maryland USA is incomplete.

Its only a part of the hull and i doubt that the cockpit was completed yet as they captured it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif


http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8577/hortenhoixwreck6nr.jpg


Ive found a great site with lots of pictures of the Horten 229 and other airplanes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


For example they have some very hard to find pictures of the Horten brothers and their first flying wing glider model http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5168/hoihortenbrothers4bw.jpg

Here it is http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

www.nurflugel.com (http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/nurflugel.html)



EDIT : Wait im wrong ! It had a cockpit !

Thats where they took the plan for modeling it in IL-2 from. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9167/img00446bo.jpg



How we gonna get this fat hun bird back home to the states John ?

Well, without wings we propably have to use a ship... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5593/ho229loading0vo.jpg

J_Weaver
06-10-2006, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by Stingray-65:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blastomatic1759:
my absolute favorite is the J8 ,i can smoke my roommates with it , no matter what plane they pick , but when it comes to the heavier ones , i like the HE-111 i can fly that thing at high speeds and low levels , like a ninja . the BF110 is cool too though.

Yes, J8A (Swedish licensed Gladiator) is a sweet T-N-B plane although its guns are a little weak compared to most of the planes you'll fly against. And you gotta be careful not to overheat or stall-out the gravity-fed motor. BTW blastomatic1759, do you fly online with a squad?



Originally posted by J_Weaver:
I love the B-25, but do to the ai, it pretty useless off-line. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif You must be kidding.... Ask anyone in an online Luftwaffe squadron & they will most likely attest that the AI gunners on B-25s are snipers! I'm not talking about the damage they inflict... we all know how devastating .50 cals are. But try attacking B-25s several times & watch how often the 1st or 2nd tracer looks like a heat seeker resulting in a PK (Pilot Kill: pilot killed by shot through canopy glass). The thing we can't figure out is that there isn't supposed to be any differance in AI between online & off or between any aircraft. Their behavior is supposed to be the same regardless. The only differance should be the damage inflicted due to the different guns. However, most will testify that they do see differances in all these. Personally, I can't count how many times my rear-gunner (especially in a Ju87 or Bf110) has "fallen asleep" or "taken a coffee break to smoke a cigarette & read the newspaper" while an enemy AC has parked on our tail & open fired. Whenever I've come under fire like this, I've jumped to the AI gunner position & manned it myself so I know the gunner wasn't dead or wounded & couldn't see any reason for him not to fire back especially when he had a clear... often point-blank, shot. Yes, I make sure he is awake even before we take off (jump to gunner position & make sure I get the "AI Gunner ON" message). Now take all these occassions compared to every time I've attacked enemy bombers & had to RTB (if I wasn't PK'd) with a plane that resembled swiss cheese.... & I'm a B-N-Z'r! I know better than to park on their 6! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

And for those that might wonder, the La-7 & Spitfires are the noob's plane of choice. They're ridiculously easy to fly. Where I might get a single kill with a Bf109, I can jump in a La-7 & get 4 or 5 kills. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Spitfires aren't quite that easy though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, no, I'm not talking about the gunners. I agree, most ai gunners a snipers. I'm talking about the fact that they won't hold formation. As an example, you make a mission where you have three flights of B-25J's bomb a railyards from 16,000ft. The problem is that when they reach the target they break formation and dive down and attack at low level. Because they have fixed foward firing guns they have the same ai as a IL-2 or some other ground attack aircraft instead of having the ai of the He-111 or Ju-88. To compound this problem, the ai B-25J's won't skip bomb or use parafrags properly. These problems make the B-25J all but usless off-line. Its really a shame as it one of my favorite birds. I find the challenge of accurate level bombing quite fun, but if you want do it you have to stick to the German and Japanese bombers. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Stingray-65
06-10-2006, 10:40 AM
@J_Weaver
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Ahhhh Rgrt. Sorry, misunderstood what you meant. Yeah, I forgot they did that. Assigning it the wrong type of AI for functionality is a major screw up they should fix in a future patch (hopefully). Didn't B-17s used to do that too at one time? But anyway, the B-25J is a wonderful aircraft online. Outstanding! Plus I think they're incredibly beautiful AC.

I think I have to add the Mosquito to my list of favorite Allied planes. The Beaufighter & the A20 Havoc get a big http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif too.

@Celeon
You'll love that X-52. I got one not long ago & it is the best stick I've ever purchased. Worth every penny! Of coarse now you'll need to get CH rudder pedals & TrackIR. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

And have you tried the Me-163 Komet yet? Speed-wise it has only 1 rival... the Russian Bi-1. However, both have a very limited flight-time/range due to outrageous fuel consumption rates. However, with enough altitude you can glide a long time/distance. The Russian Bi-1 is much friendlier to land as it has conventional landing gear. Landing a Komet with its skid can be ugly. One of my favorite things to do is to take a Komet off the deck of an aircraft carrier. Now if I could just get back onto the aircraft carrier without an arresting hook. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
http://www.alfsrc.com/project_pics/ME163-3.jpg

Celeon999
06-10-2006, 12:12 PM
Yeah ive tried the Komet and.. of course... first thing i did was to mess that up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


I was stunned by the speed so i wanted to check out how much altitude i can gain right after take off.

It was too much so i lost control and the speed dropped down to 0 . Then this thing fell like a stone and i barely managed to eject in time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Amazon said it would be delivered in 2 to 5 workdays , but i wait over 1 1/2 weeks now and the seller didnt answered to my email http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif


This is the last time ive buyed something via the amazon marketplace just to spare a few euros. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Messervy
06-10-2006, 12:31 PM
I`ve asked that before and being sure I`ll get flammed I was surperized by a total lack of response.

O.K. Here is my second go at this.

I can`t help but I find the normal speed of the game ridiculously fast.

Ducks for cover for the second time.

Littlecharlie
06-10-2006, 01:04 PM
i am afraid aerial combat is fast ...situation can change in a few seconds and in a matter of seconds you change from the hunter to hunted. just think about it ..planes flying with speeds of more than 300 towards each other ..if they are 1000 meresfrom each other .calculate your self how long it takes before they pass each other
( +/- 5 econds i think)

Stingray-65
06-10-2006, 03:17 PM
@Messervy
Littlecharlie is exactly right. Aerial combat can be extremely complicated with different tactics & maneuvers that call for counter tactics & counter maneuvers. An engagement between 2 aircraft can be over in mere seconds with a clear winner, or both AC can destroy each other. But there can also be a long drawn out process with a clear winner or even both parties involved breaking off & heading home. However, the last situation is rarely the case.

Every AC has its strengths & weaknesses & for a pilot to be successful he must not only know his own AC but that of his enemy. Erich Hartmann was an exceptional pilot who learned from the best. He carefully observed what worked best for each ace & then took all of that & put it into a formula which worked best. A fighter pilot's most valuable assets are his eyesight, situational awareness & luck. You want to spot the enemy before he spots you, ambush him & hopefully shoot him down before he even knows what happened.... while being careful that the exact same thing doesn't happen to you in the process or before you get back down on the ground. You can be in an intricate battle with another pilot; you have the upper hand, do everything right... but make 1 mistake & that may be all it takes to be the end of you.

Messervy, if you are referring to the "perception of speed" in the game as opposed to the pace at which action takes place, if anything the speed is too slow, especially at low altitude. I'm not a pilot in RL but at one time I had a friend who was & he would take me up with him regularly. The speed at takeoff & landing is slow in the sim compared to RL. Just think about it... an airplane is faster than the fastest car that most people have ever been in (top landspeed cars aside). Also in RL, once you get some altitude you can watch cars on the interstate doing over 70mph & they look slow as cold ants. Some of my squadmates are pilots in RL, most notably JG52z~Glücklich ("Lucky") (A.K.A. "Tiger" Tom Klassen (http://tkairshows.com/)) who is a professional pilot by trade. He has flown B25s, an La7, P51s, P47s etc in airshows. He used to even own his own Mig-17. Anyway... we've all commented on the fact that the low altitude speed in the game seems a little slow. At tree-level things should be zooming by. Aside from that though, Lucky is exceptionally impressed with the accuracy of the FMs. He says that perhaps the FMs are a just a little harder than the real thing in some aspects. I've heard another RL P47 pilot say the same thing of the P47s in IL-2. He said that P47s in RL don't stall quite as easily as they do in the sim. But hey... this is all 2nd-hand talk from me. I'm just repeating what I've been told by people with 1st hand experience. So take what you will, perhaps with a grain of salt. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Littlecharlie
06-10-2006, 04:00 PM
first of all my apology for my many typos i really should have pay more attention in my english spelling even thou it isn't my native language

second stingray exactly explained in perfect english what i meant. IL2 is a great game it has its faults true but if you can show me a better WW2 Flight simulator that is now on the market than il 2 i buy you a drink

Littlecharlie
06-10-2006, 04:10 PM
It also could had been the living nightmare for allied subs and ships if the aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin would had been completed...

The Flak 18 tungsten projectiles would simply pierce through a sub and leave it with thick holes in the pressure hull



Now would the allies ever allow the germans to finish off the graf zeplin i wonder . if i remeber correctly german plan "Z" asked for 4 carriers 8 battleships and a whole host of otherships . the british adeliberately went after every capital ship the germans build , with the exception of a few all german capital ships where sunk by the allies during the war

Stingray-65
06-10-2006, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Littlecharlie:
IL2 is a great game it has its faults true but if you can show me a better WW2 Flight simulator that is now on the market than il 2 i buy you a drink

I totally agree. And I must add that the "perception of speed" at altitude in IL-2 (above 100 meters) is very realistic. IRL there is a small "window" there close to the ground where you really begin to grasp just how fast you're really going (where you get the effect of blurred periphreal vision... until you either get up to altitude or slow down to "normal" speeds you're more accustomed to experiencing). So the thing with the low altitude speed seeming a bit slow is really just a minor thing not really worth complaining about or for Oleg & dev-team to waste time on "correcting". We (the community) would all much rather they focus their time on making more of those accurately-represented flyables or fix the occassional bugs.

P.S. Yes, I have a habit of editting my posts because I'm used to everyone else knit-picking them, twisting my words around or just taking them out of context if I don't. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Messervy
06-10-2006, 06:50 PM
I am quite aware of the things the two of you explained but here is what I was refering to.

1. The speed of projectiles from AA guns

and most important

2. The speed of aircrafts performing certain manouvers. (Surely this would just rip them apart due to G force stress).

In my defence I can state the following.
I have seen quite a lot of WWll gun camera shots and if I compare them to what can be seen in Il-2 they just don`t seem to be of the same world.

Otherwise I fully agree that Il-2 is by far the best WWll Air combat simulator up to a present day.

Littlecharlie
06-10-2006, 07:32 PM
Posted Sat June 10 2006 17:50
I am quite aware of the things the two of you explained but here is what I was refering to.

1. The speed of projectiles from AA guns

and most important

2. The speed of aircrafts performing certain manouvers. (Surely this would just rip them apart due to G force stress).


your first point most of the heavy AA guns during WWII where high velocity guns best example is the german infamous 88 or the russian 85 mm both where originally developed as AA guns
both where later used as Anti tank . their shells go faster then the speed of sound

point 2 most planes are build to withstand more G than the pilot could take even during WWII , one of the most annoying thing when i play IL 2 is when i black out during a G manouver the higher the G the longer it takes to recover ....wouldn't be the first time i crash because i overdid my Gs and yes i already crashed because i lost 1/2 my wing or tail during a highspeed dive ...it happens

J_Weaver
06-10-2006, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Messervy:
I am quite aware of the things the two of you explained but here is what I was refering to.

1. The speed of projectiles from AA guns

and most important

2. The speed of aircrafts performing certain manouvers. (Surely this would just rip them apart due to G force stress).

In my defence I can state the following.
I have seen quite a lot of WWll gun camera shots and if I compare them to what can be seen in Il-2 they just don`t seem to be of the same world.

Otherwise I fully agree that Il-2 is by far the best WWll Air combat simulator up to a present day.

I think the speed of projectiles are about right in IL-2. I don't have any offical #'s, (and I'm too tired to look it up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) but as said above AA is high velocity moving at 2000fps or more.

Your second point I agree with. The ai do not suffer blackout and regardless of whay Olegs says don't use the exact same FM as the player. They also don't seem to bleed energy (loose speed) the same as the player. So in short, they usually have a bit of an advantage over us mortals.

Stingray-65
06-10-2006, 09:18 PM
Oh yeah, I just thought of something... shameless plugs. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

For you guys that like the German planes... You might like some of the skins that JG52~Helgstrand makes. He has recently become a popular skin-artist. You can check out his work at his site: Helgsskins.com (http://www.helgsskins.com/)

His site is also tied in to our squadron's site at TheButcherBirds.com (http://www.thebutcherbirds.com) under "Hangar".

For you computer savvy guys, check out AdvancedComputerSciences.com (http://www.advancedcomputersciences.com/) This is a company run by our current C/O, JG52*Zerstorer (A.K.A. Mike Larson). We also have a section of our forums dedicated just for discussing computer & gaming gear. And we're always willing to help anyone with their computer problems.

Messervy
06-11-2006, 04:05 AM
Originally posted by J_Weaver:
Your second point I agree with. The ai do not suffer blackout and regardless of whay Olegs says don't use the exact same FM as the player. They also don't seem to bleed energy (loose speed) the same as the player. So in short, they usually have a bit of an advantage over us mortals.

Ah thanks, I feel better now knowing that my perception of physics isn`t all wrong.
Anyway the good thing about it is that the AI is more competitive as opposed to what we see in SH - apart from "uber destroyer".

joeap
06-11-2006, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by Messervy:

In my defence I can state the following.
I have seen quite a lot of WWll gun camera shots and if I compare them to what can be seen in Il-2 they just don`t seem to be of the same world.



Actually my understanding is that WWII gun cams are slowed down ... gotta be careful with that. Same reason tracers look all squiggly in gun cams as the camera is shaking (tracers are "straight" IRL) Look at some current videos floating around on the net from Iraq etc. the speed and resolution is much better, tracers look straight but even then they are often slowed down especially the ones you see at news conferences. Like the recent death of Zarqawi...the bomb hit is definately slowed down.

Messervy
06-11-2006, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by J_Weaver:
Your second point I agree with. The ai do not suffer blackout and regardless of whay Olegs says don't use the exact same FM as the player. They also don't seem to bleed energy (loose speed) the same as the player. So in short, they usually have a bit of an advantage over us mortals.

Ah thanks, I feel better now knowing that my perception of physics isn`t all wrong.
Anyway the good thing about it is that the AI is more competitive as opposed to what we see in SH - apart from "uber destroyer".

J_Weaver
06-11-2006, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by joeap:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Messervy:

In my defence I can state the following.
I have seen quite a lot of WWll gun camera shots and if I compare them to what can be seen in Il-2 they just don`t seem to be of the same world.



Actually my understanding is that WWII gun cams are slowed down ... gotta be careful with that. Same reason tracers look all squiggly in gun cams as the camera is shaking (tracers are "straight" IRL) Look at some current videos floating around on the net from Iraq etc. the speed and resolution is much better, tracers look straight but even then they are often slowed down especially the ones you see at news conferences. Like the recent death of Zarqawi...the bomb hit is definately slowed down. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea, most, if not all guncam footage is slowed down a bit. If you play a track at 1/4 or 1/2 speed it will match up pretty well with what you see in WWII guncam shots.

KaleunFreddie
06-11-2006, 12:25 PM
http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Pics/GroundFire01.jpg

Celeon999
06-13-2006, 03:32 AM
* KRUTZITœRKEN ! HORTEN IS BACK ! * says Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


Following his vision in Argentinia after the war, hobby like with small scale models ...


http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3125/pul10013ru.jpg http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/7212/pul10026lq.jpg



... Dr.Horten connects with new flying wing enthusiasts in germany and builds up...


http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7408/hortenaircraftlogo20050716259n.jpg


Their goal : Flying wings for everyone ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


Great range and low fuel usage for sport flyers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Dont know if they will be succesful with this idea but Celeon makes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/7969/newpul1026ke.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/7738/newpul1055dw.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8589/newpul10106xh.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9150/h3000vseiteu1mc.jpg


I wonder if they will bring back some of the more ehhhhhhm ...unusual ?... Horten designs too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif



http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

A...... flying..... (V)ing maybe ?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9213/hoxiiiainflight6te.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3955/hoxiiiaplans3ar.jpg

Littlecharlie
06-13-2006, 09:52 AM
apparantly Ubisoft brought out a new expansion for IL 2 recently check this out http://rrgstudios.com/EN_02_05_Pe2Peshka.shtml
and 2 more are on the way including a campaign pack for 1946 (soviet jetfighters???)

Now where is my creditcard

J_Weaver
06-13-2006, 11:54 AM
I'd like to have that add-on and the 2 still to come, but they are download only. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

blastomatic1759
06-13-2006, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by Stingray-65:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blastomatic1759:
my absolute favorite is the J8 ,i can smoke my roommates with it , no matter what plane they pick , but when it comes to the heavier ones , i like the HE-111 i can fly that thing at high speeds and low levels , like a ninja . the BF110 is cool too though.

Yes, J8A (Swedish licensed Gladiator) is a sweet T-N-B plane although its guns are a little weak compared to most of the planes you'll fly against. And you gotta be careful not to overheat or stall-out the gravity-fed motor. BTW blastomatic1759, do you fly online with a squad?



Originally posted by J_Weaver:
I love the B-25, but do to the ai, it pretty useless off-line. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif You must be kidding.... Ask anyone in an online Luftwaffe squadron & they will most likely attest that the AI gunners on B-25s are snipers! I'm not talking about the damage they inflict... we all know how devastating .50 cals are. But try attacking B-25s several times & watch how often the 1st or 2nd tracer looks like a heat seeker resulting in a PK (Pilot Kill: pilot killed by shot through canopy glass). The thing we can't figure out is that there isn't supposed to be any differance in AI between online & off or between any aircraft. Their behavior is supposed to be the same regardless. The only differance should be the damage inflicted due to the different guns. However, most will testify that they do see differances in all these. Personally, I can't count how many times my rear-gunner (especially in a Ju87 or Bf110) has "fallen asleep" or "taken a coffee break to smoke a cigarette & read the newspaper" while an enemy AC has parked on our tail & open fired. Whenever I've come under fire like this, I've jumped to the AI gunner position & manned it myself so I know the gunner wasn't dead or wounded & couldn't see any reason for him not to fire back especially when he had a clear... often point-blank, shot. Yes, I make sure he is awake even before we take off (jump to gunner position & make sure I get the "AI Gunner ON" message). Now take all these occassions compared to every time I've attacked enemy bombers & had to RTB (if I wasn't PK'd) with a plane that resembled swiss cheese.... & I'm a B-N-Z'r! I don't park on their 6... I know better! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

And for those that might wonder, the La-7 & Spitfires are the noob's plane of choice. They're ridiculously easy to fly. Where I might get a single kill with a Bf109, I can jump in a La-7 & get 4 or 5 kills. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Spitfires aren't quite that easy though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


no i dont play online , i just got it reinstalled on the new laptop , im either playing SH3 , OFP , or IL2 , those are my favs.

Celeon999
06-16-2006, 06:51 AM
KRœTZITœRKEN !


ITS HERE ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif


And its much bigger than on the pics http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/8903/pic00010sr.jpg

KaleunFreddie
06-16-2006, 12:09 PM
Nice Stick C... mine should be arriving soon. It looks so good in that pic.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon999
06-16-2006, 12:42 PM
Its absolutely great !

Really expensive but worth every cent ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Mega precise http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/8994/pic00035hz.jpg

Stingray-65
06-16-2006, 03:14 PM
BTW, for you guys intending to get (or have gotten) the PE2 add-on, I've heard that it comes with a thing called "Boonty Box" which can be a sort of "resource hog" & gives some people trouble. Here is a link you may want to check out concerning it:

http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb....topic;f=144;t=004658 (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=144;t=004658)

KaleunFreddie
06-17-2006, 03:24 PM
BoontyBox is the major obstacle for most of us purchasing the product. As yet we don't seem prepared to upgrade our servers until this 'problem' is sorted out.

The problem with these type of protection is that they have to run at the Operating system level (Kernel/Ring0) of 'security' to be effective. This makes yours and my PC open to abuse.

The second problem with this and Starforce is that the 'Drivers' are usually not properly tested Or certified as a MicroSoft driver. IOW they have not been tested by MSoft for compatibility problems, thus all the arising problems with these types of 'copy protection'.

There is always going to Software Piracy and I just heard of a great way to combat it. Here in ZA they were selling pirate copies of Tsotsi, that best foreign movie on the streets before it hit the screens. Well then some local guy bought on of the DVD's, and when he ran it the TV screen thanks him for his donation then went blank ??? Brilliant, the movie company had sewn the market with blank DVD's like this, thus putting Doubt in the minds of the would be pirates.

Customer loyalty is earned, and cannot be demanded at the point of privacy invasion ?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

J_Weaver
06-17-2006, 09:21 PM
Celeon, is see you finally got your X-52! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The BoontyBox thing isn't an issue for me since I don't have a credit card. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

joeap
06-18-2006, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by KaleunFreddie:
BoontyBox is the major obstacle for most of us purchasing the product. As yet we don't seem prepared to upgrade our servers until this 'problem' is sorted out.

The problem with these type of protection is that they have to run at the Operating system level (Kernel/Ring0) of 'security' to be effective. This makes yours and my PC open to abuse.

The second problem with this and Starforce is that the 'Drivers' are usually not properly tested Or certified as a MicroSoft driver. IOW they have not been tested by MSoft for compatibility problems, thus all the arising problems with these types of 'copy protection'.

There is always going to Software Piracy and I just heard of a great way to combat it. Here in ZA they were selling pirate copies of Tsotsi, that best foreign movie on the streets before it hit the screens. Well then some local guy bought on of the DVD's, and when he ran it the TV screen thanks him for his donation then went blank ??? Brilliant, the movie company had sewn the market with blank DVD's like this, thus putting Doubt in the minds of the would be pirates.

Customer loyalty is earned, and cannot be demanded at the point of privacy invasion ?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Geezus whatv a bunch of BS, Boonty is nothing like SF, nothing. Some community members tested it and found what it does and does not do. Look at the link from Simhq above. Plus this thread here:
Pe-2 install guide (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9691071834)

or this:

Another illustrated guide (http://home.iprimus.com.au/tonytisdell/PE2HELP/pe2help.htm)

So you basically have to junk the new exe files in favour of the older ones (best to back em up, read the guide) and clean out Boonty and you will have NO resource or other problems. I did and have none. Boonty was not well thought out for sure but is is not much worse than Steam, and it is spreading disinformation to compare it to SF.

KaleunFreddie
06-18-2006, 08:21 AM
Of course it's a lot of BS... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

joeap
06-18-2006, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by KaleunFreddie:
Of course it's a lot of BS... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Did you read what I wrote? Boonty = Starforce is BS dude, it does not do the same thing. Plus you can get rid of it very easily. Don't forget Oleg and team did not add it, and it is very easy to replace.

KaleunFreddie
06-18-2006, 12:50 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif
Where on earth did you get SF=BB.
It's an unwanted piece of code that does/can make your PC vulnerable to abuse, like SF.
Only the developers of BB know what they put in the code, that is, until somebody else finds out.

As an excercise, run a Registry monitor when installing BB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif