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MichaelMar
04-27-2006, 10:35 AM
One that is logical, very good at math, thinks 'black & light'...over all very smart...engineer like?

Or the artist type that does not excel in logic but deals more with the abstract... dancer, painter types?

Just curious about your thoughts...

THX

Stackhouse25th
04-27-2006, 10:49 AM
One that knows his limitations.

Just the other day I shot down 3 109's in 1 sortie with a P39, I came down on top of them, and it was quite the furball with just me taking them on. I shot them down and then extended 5KM past the initial furball point, and watched as they tried to lure me closer to their base.

I could have gone back and made ace in a day I had another 10 secs of ammo, but I didnt.

As far as attitudes... That is up to you. Being pissed off; angry attitudes can detract from logical thinking. However you must be aggressive, focused and using ur noggin.

Airline pilots use softer attitudes. Fighter pilots are more aggressive/stronger. Macho attitudes will get you killed. Just think ahead (what will u do in 2 min etc).

mynameisroland
04-27-2006, 10:53 AM
Someone who has reasonably good hardware and Joystick/Track IR ect and who is patient and willing to practice a lot. From the first posters question Im a bit of both, a qualified product designer who has an artistic background and am currently doing a masters in computer animation.

I suppose being a massive fan of WW2 aircraft helps too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sunflower1
04-27-2006, 10:56 AM
"A man's got to know his limitations"

Inspector Callahan

Stackhouse25th
04-27-2006, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by sunflower1:
"A man's got to know his limitations"

Inspector Callahan


And what about a woman? :-)

joking...

mynameisroland
04-27-2006, 11:03 AM
women? what limitations?

rovens
04-27-2006, 11:04 AM
And what about a woman? :-)

joking...


Have you ever known a woman to admit they have any limitations http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

CornbreadPattie
04-27-2006, 11:06 AM
The best pilot is a fascist. Only the best fascists know exactly how the enemy will fly if they are analytical and mathematical. They also know what a puny fight the more abstract pilot will put up.

Every fascist knows the art*** pilot will instantly blow his engine out and miss all of his shots and needs icons on just to tell the enemy from friendlies.

On the downside, the mathematical pilot will probably die of colon cancer from the McDonald's diet since it it both economical and meaty.

Xiolablu3
04-27-2006, 11:15 AM
The best ones are those who know how to laugh and get on with others. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Then people really believe he is on 'their team' and not just out for himself. They are then willing to help him get better or answer any questions he has.

As a result he gains experience faster and more experience = a better pilot.

As for the two types you suggested, I am not really sure. I have always been the 'arty' type I guess, I never trim my plane much, take big deflection shots and fly 'on my wits', never taking much notice of the dials and stuff.

But I am not an ace, so maybe I would be better as the mathmatic type http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, but that just doesnt sound much fun.

Fork-N-spoon
04-27-2006, 11:48 AM
The best online pilots are the ones who have the best cheats :\/

DIRTY-MAC
04-27-2006, 11:51 AM
THe one with patience and calmness

JG5_UnKle
04-27-2006, 11:55 AM
Keyword :: Wingman

Platypus_1.JaVA
04-27-2006, 01:00 PM
Stay cool and try to adapt to the situation at hand, CONSTANTLY.

Airmail109
04-27-2006, 01:08 PM
The guy with expirience, can keep his cool, has fast reactions, good shot, situationally on the ball all the time, sharp, and original in his flying style......so they can do the least expected to get out of bad positions. But hey look at Pappy boyington, he wasnt exactly patient....so also you have to have a certain amount of controlled aggresiveness.

But yeah id say the more arty type pilots....the ones who just KNOW how to fly well instinctively.....its been said by WWII fighter pilots there were those who were just pure naturals/artists like Marseille, those who become good with practice (the ones who had to learn logically), and those who were just average all the time.

lowfighter
04-27-2006, 01:19 PM
Fishermen which have a passion for painting I think http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

carguy_
04-27-2006, 02:27 PM
Online fedinitely scientists have advantage,initial advantage.They understand what their plane does.They can come up with a maneuver that gives their plane upper hand.
A scholar type guy needs a lot experience to develop as much as a starting scientist.

shahram177
04-27-2006, 02:35 PM
The one with the most patient wife / girl friend / dog / cat / mom / dad / bladder.
So if you live in your parents basement speak full Klingon and wear a diper your good to go!
You can practice all day and all night and no one will ever bother you and you will rule the digital skies!

http://web.tiscali.it/fabioracco2/images/Comicbg.gif

slipBall
04-27-2006, 02:46 PM
Agreshion make's the best ace's. So if you are hot headed, barn storming, trigger happy, like your alcohol cold, and your women hot, sign on the dotted line

Kuna_
04-27-2006, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by CornbreadPattie:
The best pilot is a fascist. Only the best fascists know exactly how the enemy will fly if they are analytical and mathematical. They also know what a puny fight the more abstract pilot will put up.

Every fascist knows the art*** pilot will instantly blow his engine out and miss all of his shots and needs icons on just to tell the enemy from friendlies.

On the downside, the mathematical pilot will probably die of colon cancer from the McDonald's diet since it it both economical and meaty.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4jz7i/moscows.gif

We need to cheer this thread up.

Sepdawg
04-27-2006, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by shahram177:
The one with the most patient wife / girl friend / dog / cat / mom / dad / bladder.
So if you live in your parents basement speak full Klingon and wear a diper your good to go!
You can practice all day and all night and no one will ever bother you and you will rule the digital skies!

and needs only about 4 hours of sleep to deal with the kids in the morning http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

http://web.tiscali.it/fabioracco2/images/Comicbg.gif

Sepdawg
04-27-2006, 02:59 PM
never mind....I'll sleep when I'm dead

WOLFMondo
04-27-2006, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Kuna_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CornbreadPattie:
The best pilot is a fascist. Only the best fascists know exactly how the enemy will fly if they are analytical and mathematical. They also know what a puny fight the more abstract pilot will put up.

Every fascist knows the art*** pilot will instantly blow his engine out and miss all of his shots and needs icons on just to tell the enemy from friendlies.

On the downside, the mathematical pilot will probably die of colon cancer from the McDonald's diet since it it both economical and meaty.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4jz7i/moscows.gif

We need to cheer this thread up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LS will cheer this thread up? :P

Irish_Rogues
04-27-2006, 03:08 PM
Since most of the pictures are of Oleg, which one is he? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

RayBanJockey
04-27-2006, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by MichaelMar:
One that is logical, very good at math, thinks 'black & light'...over all very smart...engineer like?

Or the artist type that does not excel in logic but deals more with the abstract... dancer, painter types?

Just curious about your thoughts...

THX

Well, first of all if you want to be good you have to know all the moves, and have superior hand/eye coordination (helps to have been playing video games all your life).

The one who is logical/good at math is better than the artsy fartsy type, because if you want to master a plane, here is what you have to do: You have to have a stopwatch and climb from landing to about 30,000 feet, do this about 20-30 times keeping the indicated speed at 230/240/250/ etc and marking the exacts seconds when you cross each 1000 foot level, then look at the data and determine the best climb speed for each 1000 feet of altitude. Then when some hotshot challenges you to a duel from simultaneous starts/same plane you will have the energy advantage when your paths cross for the first time. The rest is simple execution. Checkmate you win.

There is also more like figuring out exactly how much heat your engine can withstand and how to cool it off the best, etc, but you get the drift.

Then, when you have achieved supreme knowledge you can relax and focus on the arts, with a full palette of combat skills/knowledge avaialable at your disposal.

AFJ_Locust
04-27-2006, 11:23 PM
If Goodknight was here he would say it was HIM!!!

Since hes not Ill say it for him LOL

IMHO The best pilots are humble, have great brevity/comms,Situational awarness, Navagational skill,do there best to work as a team with others while compleating the objective of the map...

If you think your a badass theres only one solutuon for that, Get the crymeariver.mis from me, There 2 bases 1 grid apart, you airspawn with same ac, same fuel, same armament, fullswitch, Then you get after it. This imo is great practice & gets out all the DF frustrations you might have, theres no killstealing, no shouldershooters, no excuses either, then you can go back to Bombing the daylights out of the planet,with wingmen & escort http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

rnzoli
04-28-2006, 12:17 AM
you are all losing sight of a fundamental question: how do we define a "better" pilot?

- the one who gets most points?
- the one who contributes to completing the mission objective?
- the one who successfully RTBs in his cr@pplane after running into point-hungry opponents with shiny brand new Spits and La-7s?

I would say that a "better" pilot is someone I enjoy to fly against and fly together, too.

Most of good virtual and real pilots I had the luck to meet have a solid base of factual knowledge about planes, suitable tactics, limitations. Engineering background can help to attain that more quickly.

But that's not all. The factual knowledge needs to be applied, and they apply it in a very flexible fashion, you can call it "artistic" way. Their fight is never the same, they always find out a different application of their knowledge and that makes it difficult to beat them by their opponents.

So the answer is: both worlds.

Siwarrior
04-28-2006, 01:29 AM
What makes the best online pilot?

methinks someone who has respect for the opposition but is not lenient, they should be versitile and agressive http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

alert_1
04-28-2006, 01:51 AM
RBJ you were MIA soooo long http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
04-28-2006, 01:51 AM
The best pilot...

... never underestimates an enemy. No matter how much more E, guns, HP or skill he has.

... has a good situational awareness. That's not only knowing your opponent, but also knowing who is where.

... respects opponents and teammates.

... is a teamplayer or a bad pilot. There is nothing in between.

WOODY01
04-28-2006, 03:36 AM
Damn! I just thought you had to be born under the Aries Star sign. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RegRag1977
04-28-2006, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by Kuna_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CornbreadPattie:
The best pilot is a fascist. Only the best fascists know exactly how the enemy will fly if they are analytical and mathematical. They also know what a puny fight the more abstract pilot will put up.

Every fascist knows the art*** pilot will instantly blow his engine out and miss all of his shots and needs icons on just to tell the enemy from friendlies.

On the downside, the mathematical pilot will probably die of colon cancer from the McDonald's diet since it it both economical and meaty.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4jz7i/moscows.gif

We need to cheer this thread up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi Kuna!

So what, already training in prevision of pilot fatigue! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Seems to be good to improve rudder endurance! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cheers! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Monson74
04-28-2006, 05:20 AM
Patience & practice - talent or hardware doesn't matter - in fact I don't believe there is such a thing as "talent" - talent is just what you can do already but that skill must be taught somehow & nursed like a baby. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-28-2006, 06:01 AM
The best pilot is the one that values his virtual life enough to fly like he wants to live while still applying cautious aggression.

FritzGryphon
04-28-2006, 06:15 AM
One who makes himself invicible, then attacks the enemy's weakness.

The-Pizza-Man
04-28-2006, 06:16 AM
Judging from my own poor online performance I'd say it is good to be able to assess each situation as it comes and take action unemotionally. I can't count the number of times I've been killed in my on and off Il-2 playing because I started to get antsy and misjudged the situation and didn't disengage when I had the chance, but pushed further and made it worse.