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Bearcat99
07-09-2008, 07:31 AM
Says it all... does anyone still have that demo on a drive somewhere?

BrotherVoodoo
07-09-2008, 08:31 AM
I think I do Bear, I'll check tonite when I get home.

sgilewicz
07-09-2008, 09:32 AM
I've got it here on my pc at work. Would you like it? PM me and I'll send it on.

JG52Uther
07-09-2008, 10:06 AM
Deeds thats version 2.BC wants version 1.It has to be the first demo version.

Deedsundone
07-09-2008, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
Deeds thats version 2.BC wants version 1.It has to be the first demo version.

Yeah,saw it, a bit later.Someone in for a nostalgia trip http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

JG52Uther
07-09-2008, 10:12 AM
Looking for something thats not in the later versions of the demo.

Monterey13
07-09-2008, 10:19 AM
Is this not it?
http://www.download.com/IL-2-Sturmovik-demo/3000-7547_4-10230098.html?hhTest

Monterey13
07-09-2008, 10:40 AM
Here is the original, I believe.

http://pcgames.gwn.com/downloads/file.php/id/2806/IL-2_Sturmovik.html

EURO_Snoopy
07-09-2008, 10:50 AM
The above are all version 2, the first version was called 'il2demo' and was 114mb in size, not 146mb. I have it somewhere amongst 25 backup DVD's, I wont have time to go looking for it any time soon.

FliegerAas
07-09-2008, 11:31 AM
PCGames.de still has both versions of the demo.

http://www.pcgames.de/aid,11636/IL-2_Sturmovik/

Choctaw111
07-09-2008, 12:15 PM
BC and I were talking about something that I remembered in the original demo...the water spots on the windshield when it was raining. How many of you remember that? Me and this sim go way back.
That is one of those features (like some others I'm sure) that were removed over the years. Seeing the rain hitting the windscreen was a fairly big immersion factor, and I was really impressed by that and so many other things in Il2...and I am still amazed by it.
It must still must be in the code somewhere and maybe someone can figure out how it was done.
Wouldn't it be neat to have that back again?
Maybe it is as simple as a conf.ini line.
I told BC that I know I still have the original demo somewhere. Perhaps on one of my older PC's, but I am not ready to try and hook them back up right now. Someone out there surely must have it at the ready.

Bearcat99
07-09-2008, 12:23 PM
One of the most amazing things about this sim and a huge testament to the genius of O & 1C is that there are features that were so far ahead of yheir time... Even a lower middle of the road PC of today will toast a high end PC of 2001..

Choctaw111
07-09-2008, 12:24 PM
I found a link here.
http://nfs.gamenavigator.ru/files/1187/

Downloading now, but it fear it will be in Russian, and my Russian is very rusty.
I don't recall in the original demo had a conf.ini
No one back then even knew what that was...at least it didn't

Choctaw111
07-09-2008, 12:33 PM
It does have a conf.ini http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Now to see what is different in here

For those of you who are wondering if you have it on your system, the default install folder is 1C/Il2demo

Choctaw111
07-09-2008, 12:36 PM
For those interested, and while I take a look, here is the conf.ini in the original demo. Se if you can find anything different.

[il2]
title=Il2-Sturmovik
hotkeys=HotKey game
[window]
width=1600
height=1200
ColourBits=32
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=0
ChangeScreenRes=1
FullScreen=1
DrawIfNotFocused=0
EnableResize=0
EnableClose=1

[GLPROVIDER]
GL=Opengl32.dll

[GLPROVIDERS]
Open GL=Opengl32.dll
DirectX=dx8wrap.dll

[NET]
speed=100000
routeChannels=0
serverChannels=3
localPort=21000
remotePort=21000
SkinDownload=1
serverName=No Name
serverDescription=
remoteHost=


[HotKey game]
PrintScreen=ScreenShot
P=pause

[HotKey gui]
Escape=activate

[HotKey builder]
MouseLeft=objectMove
MouseRight=popupmenu
Enter=freeView
Shift MouseLeft=worldZoom
Alt MouseLeft=select+
Alt MouseRight=select-
Alt Ctrl=unselect
PageDown=change+
PageUp=change-
End=change++
Home=change--
Ctrl MouseLeft=insert+
Insert=insert+
NumPad-0=insert+
F=fill
Ctrl MouseRight=delete+
NumPad.=delete+
Delete=delete+
Backspace=cursor
Tab=cursor
F10=land
F11=onLand
NumPad-=normalLand
NumPad+=toLand
NumPad-5=resetAngles
NumPad-8=resetTangage90
NumPad-7=stepAzimut-5
NumPad-4=stepAzimut-15
NumPad-1=stepAzimut-30
NumPad-9=stepAzimut5
NumPad-6=stepAzimut15
NumPad-3=stepAzimut30
Ctrl X=cut
Ctrl C=copy
Ctrl V=paste

Ctrl Up=bridgeOffset+
Ctrl Down=bridgeOffset-
Ctrl Left=bridgeLeft
Ctrl Right=bridgeRight

Ctrl 1=selectLowLand
Ctrl 2=selectLowLand1
Ctrl 3=selectLowLand2
Ctrl 4=selectLowLand3
Ctrl 5=selectMidLand
Ctrl 6=selectMidLand1
Ctrl 7=selectMidLand2
Ctrl 8=selectMidLand3
Ctrl 9=selectMount
Ctrl 0=selectMount1
Ctrl Q=selectMount2
Ctrl W=selectMount3
Ctrl E=selectCountry
Ctrl R=selectCountry1
Ctrl T=selectCountry2
Ctrl Y=selectCountry3
Ctrl U=selectCity
Ctrl I=selectCity1
Ctrl O=selectCity2
Ctrl P=selectCity3
Ctrl A=selectAirfield
Ctrl S=selectAirfield1
Ctrl D=selectAirfield2
Ctrl F=selectAirfield3
Ctrl G=selectWood
Ctrl F1=selectRoadRail
Ctrl F2=selectRoadCountry
Ctrl F3=selectRoadHighway
Ctrl F5=selectBridgeRail
Ctrl F6=selectBridgeCountry
Ctrl F7=selectBridgeHighway
Ctrl Z=selectLabel
Ctrl H=selectHeightPeek
Ctrl J=selectHeightFill
Up=incHeight
Left=decHeight10
Down=decHeight
Right=incHeight10

[HotKey Console]
Shift Tab=Activate
[Console]
HISTORY=1024
HISTORYCMD=1024
LOAD=console.cmd
SAVE=console.cmd
LOG=0
LOGTIME=0
LOGFILE=log.lst

[MouseXYZ]
F1=SpeedSlow
F2=SpeedNormal
F3=SpeedFast
MouseRight=XYmove
F4 MouseRight=Zmove
MouseMiddle=Amove
F5 MouseRight=Amove
F6 MouseRight=Tmove
F7 MouseRight=Kmove

[MouseXYZ Config]
RealTime=1

[FreeFly]
MouseLeft=ResetView
A=Azimut-
D=Azimut+
S=Tangage+
W=Tangage-
Q=Kren-
E=Kren+
V=Speed+
C=Speed-

[FreeFly Config]
AzimutView=1.0
TangageView=1.0
SpeedAzimut=50.0
SpeedTangage=50.0
SpeedKren=50.0
MaxSpeed=1000.0
Acselerate=100.0

[HookViewFly Config]
timeFirstStep=2.0
deltaZ=10.0

[HookView]
MouseLeft=Len

[HookView Config]
AzimutSpeed=0.1
TangageSpeed=0.1
LenSpeed=1.0
MinLen=10.0
DefaultLen=20.0
MaxLen=3000.0

[HookPilot]
NumPad-5=Reset
NumPad-8=Up
NumPad-2=Down
NumPad-7=Left
NumPad-4=Left2
NumPad-1=Left3
NumPad-9=Right
NumPad-6=Right2
NumPad-3=Right3

[HookPilot Config]
AzimutSpeed=0.1
TangageSpeed=0.1

[HookGunner]
NumPad-5=Reset
NumPad-8=Up
NumPad-2=Down
NumPad-7=Left
NumPad-4=Left2
NumPad-1=Left3
NumPad-9=Right
NumPad-6=Right2
NumPad-3=Right3

[FreeFlyXYZ]
Left=Y+
Right=Y-
Down=X-
Up=X+
Home=Z+
End=Z-
Delete=A-
PageDown=A+
Ctrl Left=SpeedMul
Ctrl Right=SpeedMul
Ctrl Down=SpeedMul
Ctrl Up=SpeedMul
Ctrl Home=SpeedMul
Ctrl End=SpeedMul
Ctrl Delete=SpeedMul
Ctrl PageDown=SpeedMul

[FreeFlyXYZ Config]
SpeedXYZ=20.0
SpeedAzimut=20.0
SpeedMul=0.1

[game]
Arcade=0
HighGore=0
HakenAllowed=1
chatRegion=(dx=0.3375,dy=0.26333332,x=0.0,y=0.0416 66668)
mapPadX=0.6689453
mapPadY=-0.046875
viewSet=0

[sound]
SoundUse=1
SoundEngine=1
Speakers=0
Placement=0
SoundFlags.reversestereo=0
RadioFlags.Enabled=0
RadioEngine=0
MusicVolume=14
ObjectVolume=11
MusState.takeoff=1
MusState.inflight=1
MusState.crash=1
MusFlags.play=1
MasterVolume=13
Attenuation=7
SoundMode=1
SamplingRate=2
NumChannels=0
SoundExt.occlusions=0
SoundFlags.hardware=1
SoundFlags.streams=1
SoundFlags.duplex=1
SoundExt.acoustics=0
SoundExt.volumefx=0
SoundFlags.voicemgr=0
SoundFlags.static=1
VoiceVolume=13
Channels=1
SoundExt.extrender=0
SoundFlags.bugscorrect=0
SoundSetupId=10

[rts]
;ProcessAffinityMask=1
; 0 - not use, 1 - show cursor and not capture, 2 - not show cursor, and capture
mouseUse=2
; 0 - not use, 1 - use if hardware exist
joyUse=1

[rts_mouse]
SensitivityX=1.0
SensitivityY=1.0
[rts_joystick]
X=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Y=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Z=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
FF=1

[Render_DirectX]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
Shadows=1
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
LandShading=2
LandDetails=1
Sky=2
Forest=1
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=0
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1
TexLarge=0
VideoSetupId=4

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
Shadows=1
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
LandShading=2
LandDetails=1
Sky=2
Forest=1

TexAnisotropicExt=0
TexCompressARBExt=1
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1
VisibilityDistance=2
LandGeom=2
TexLarge=0
VideoSetupId=4

[chat]
region=(dx=0.58984375,dy=0.14192708,x=0.0029296875 ,y=0.0)
adr0=ALL

Choctaw111
07-09-2008, 12:45 PM
WOW! This is like a time machine. You all gotta check this out again, and for those who have never tried it...TRY IT, to appreciate where we are now and to also appreciate how good this sim really was and still is for how old it is. Even the original demo still amazes me. I had almost forgotten.

Deedsundone
07-09-2008, 01:32 PM
Wohaaa! You could really survive nasty crashes in the old days. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Choctaw111
07-09-2008, 04:46 PM
Edit...
Somehow I accidentally quoted my conf.ini post

...Hey...what happened to the "OOPS" smiley?

Skunk_438RCAF
07-09-2008, 05:26 PM
Cool...I've noticed a few different things in this conf.ini...Notably, what is "freefly"?

zlin
07-10-2008, 04:24 AM
HakenAllowed=1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

ffb
07-10-2008, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by zlin:
HakenAllowed=1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

so...hacking used to be allowed then?

Feathered_IV
07-10-2008, 06:17 AM
Just tried V1. No rain drops were present. Only the 'lines' representing falling rain.

zlin
07-10-2008, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by ffb:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zlin:
HakenAllowed=1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

so...hacking used to be allowed then? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ha ha , good one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Seriously , HakenAllowed=1 should not have been removed , just kept as an option for each game sim owner to select to see it or not on their planes .

Choctaw111
07-10-2008, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by zlin:
HakenAllowed=1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

I was wondering if someone would see that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Taylortony
07-10-2008, 03:04 PM
Got it on a H DRive somewhere, when ever I have reinstalled I simply replced the Hard drive with another and used the originals as a back up then when next hard drive goes in one comes out and is stored http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I still have the presspack cd's somehwere for FB, the ones I gave a load of away on here .

Choctaw111
07-10-2008, 05:53 PM
I haven't seen any rain drops yet either...but I remember them from so long ago.
Which version was that?

msalama
07-11-2008, 07:04 AM
I downloaded and installed the Russian demo. Holy carp http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif The planes are MUCH harder to fly than in IL-2 1946 it seems - you really have to pay attention to your energy state in all phases of flight or the beast makes minced meat out of you! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

T_O_A_D
07-13-2008, 07:32 AM
I remember the rain, the original P-39 mission, was a bit of a nemisis for me back then. It took me over two weeks to get it off the gound to only get lost. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

What irratated me most was I could take a 109 off and land it first try, I really wanted to be an Allied pilot.

I sooned realized I was from the dark side, and gradually became a plane *****.

Oh I still have both versions on my HD, I keep the second version on a USB drive, and when I need to show someone what its about I poke it in thier machine and fly it with a keyboard if no Joystick is available. Then I tell them how much better it is now and show them where to go buy it.

Taylortony
07-13-2008, 03:50 PM
Anyone remember flying underground one of the maps involving the bay on one version?

joeap
07-13-2008, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zlin:
HakenAllowed=1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

I was wondering if someone would see that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Haha, isn't that for the swastika in fact?

ytareh
07-13-2008, 05:15 PM
Didnt gunners used shoot at ground objects and the enemy AI would come back to finish you off after you had crashed as you dived for cover ....Ah the good old days !

zlin
07-13-2008, 05:19 PM
Haha, isn't that for the swastika in fact?

That's what I thought , if I remeber well , there was Hakenkreuz allowed back in the demo and was also wondering if this was the option for selecting it "on" and "off" .
It's been quite a while since first demo release http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Jaws2002
07-13-2008, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by ytareh:
...Ah the good old days !

Let's not get carried away now. Did you forget the sniper T-34's. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

DKoor
07-13-2008, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Jaws2002:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ytareh:
...Ah the good old days !

Let's not get carried away now. Did you forget the sniper T-34's. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Luv to see some of the old stuff...

You attack the tank, see teh turret moving in your direction, little flash and message "pilot: killed" while your wingless burning crate slowly descend towards earth.

The best of it all, IIRC you saw everything after you've been killed, while in our current version of the game screen just gets black.

And yes... some of you guys that are playing with v1 demo... be sure to check out the MG151/20 blasts http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

Jaws2002
07-13-2008, 09:32 PM
I like the MG151/20 tracer color.