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NacioReyes
05-01-2005, 06:06 PM
What would be a good Number....To adjust my settings by... I heard 30FPS? Whats average?

mortoma
05-01-2005, 06:48 PM
I know that if the lowest you get is at least 20, you will get smooth game play. So in that case, you might very well average at at least 30. So if you go by average, then yes, 30 would probably do it. I personally go by the low though, 20 is my lower limit, 15 ain't bad though. Lower than 10 and you can get slideshows in heavy fighting with ground or ship flak thrown in.

major_setback
05-01-2005, 07:16 PM
.... Lower than 10 and you can get slideshows in heavy fighting with ground or ship flak thrown in.



I find that FPS affects joystick/aircraft response as much as the visuals.

I love the eye-candy of the game, and the immersion level is greater with high visual settings, but after flying for some time at these higher settings you really notice a performance increase when reverting to lower settings.
Feel how much better the planes respond with medium to low visual settings!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Also, lighting effects seem to have a marginal effect on frame rate, lowering landscape detail, cloud detail and object detail give the best improvement. Visibility distance I set to LOW.


Mind you my systems getting old:

P4 3.06GHz
GeForce Ti 4600 graphics card
512 DDR RAM
Rub two sticks together to start!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Eraser_tr
05-01-2005, 07:47 PM
no, your video card and memory is getting old. your cpu is faster than 95% of computers out there.

I think somewhere between 20-25 frames per second is about equivalent to how fast your eye sees.

NacioReyes
05-01-2005, 08:12 PM
thanks all..

RACFrankenstein
05-01-2005, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Eraser_tr:
I think somewhere between 20-25 frames per second is about equivalent to how fast your eye sees.

Just as a frame of reference;

The movies you see in the theatre are usually shot at 24fps (I believe IMAX movies are shot at a higher framerate, but I might be mistaken).

Television is broadcast at 30fps (29.97 to be exact...)

stansdds
05-02-2005, 04:07 AM
20 fps is certainly acceptable, 30 looks even better and beyond that the human eye really can't tell the difference. 15 and below will range from looking a little slow to a downright slide show presentation.

I remember when 20 fps was the max any sim could muster and those who had the computer power to maintain 20 fps were the gods. I try to maintain 20 to 30 fps and my rig usually will until the action gets really heavy with lots of explosions such as the scene where the A5M5c hits the carrier in the track "Kamikaze" or a few of the intense scenes in "The Black Death" track.

AMD64 3500+
2 GB RAM
Audigy 2ZS
Track IR 3Pro Vector
NV6800 Ultra PCIe

trumper
05-02-2005, 04:43 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifIf my poor fading memory serves me correctly the old Cine films were shot at about 14 -18 fps.

Hunter82
05-02-2005, 05:48 AM
try and keep your absolute min above 30 IMO. Anything less in unplayable and gives the impression of lag online. At times the longer the pause can get you booted from servers who run tighter cheat detection...like mine when it's up. Can't take screenshots on my server or you get booted lol

BBB_Hyperion
05-02-2005, 05:56 AM
Everything below 40 fps in Multiplayer reduces ability to df to a high extend . 40 fps with cockpit on everything else gives clear disadvantage. Special the ability to guess flight directions and do some guess shoots reduces to nil in the lower numbers.

TacticalYak3
05-02-2005, 06:26 AM
When tweaking my goal is to approach 60 fps. If under "normal" conditions you can achieve this or better, then when the action occurs you won't be left in lag when firing your guns.

Personally, I would reduce my settings if I was getting such low numbers, especially for TIR use and/or online play.

TactS!

DuxCorvan
05-02-2005, 01:21 PM
Half-Life 2 is. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Pity of that Steam 'I-won't-work-when-the-site-falls' shâ¡ttie... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

FlyTyer1970
05-02-2005, 04:38 PM
What's the command to enable show fps in FB+AEP+PF?

I've got a nice setup even though I feel that my "crappy" cpu is holding back for the rest of the machine. So I'm curious to find out what my fps is, Btw I'm running with maxed settings but without AA crews and with water "2"

Intel P4 3.0 HT FSB800 S478 with a Thermaltake XP120/Papst 4412F/2GL @ 5V.
ABit IC7-MAX3 without the OTES and with a passive Revoltec Northbridge Freezer.
2 x 512PC3200 TwinMos in dual mode
ATI X800XT 256mb with Zalman VF700-Cu @ 5V (factory clockspeed).
Soundblaster Audigy Player
Soundblaster T5900 5.1
6 hdd's
Pioneer DVD106 Slot-In
NEC 3520A
Tagan 480W PSU
Compucase 6A21 with 3 Papst 4412F/GL @ 7V
Belinea 103050 17" CRT 1280 x 1024 @ 85Hz (gonna buy an 19" TFT within 2 months).
Logitech MX510 / Icemat rev.2
Logitech Internet Navigator keyboard
Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick (thinking about getting a X45 setup instead)

I know that my setup is clearly above average and it will have to do at least another year, sadly it's not just buying a new cpu when it's time to upgrade. I've recently bought a new gpu, was more or less forced to do it since I toasted my Hercules 9800 Pro but had some luck in geting the new card without paying VAT for it. As you can see above in the spec. I'm not an overclocker but my hunt is for dBA instead.

fordfan25
05-02-2005, 05:12 PM
i would use the black death track as a beanch test. try and keep the AVG at the end of the test above 20fps. that will give you decent fps in the rest of the game. that card is hurting you and another 512 ram would be nice.

R_Target
05-02-2005, 05:16 PM
The FPS command is fps START SHOW. I like to stay above 45 FPS @ 1280x1024/4xAA/8xAF/Perfect/Water=1/Effects=1 if I can help it. I'll still dip into the 30's occasionally with a citified map and/or heavy flak. My personal test is 40+ FPS average on the Black Death track. If I can pull 40+ on that, I'm pretty much good to go.

Obi_Kwiet
05-02-2005, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Eraser_tr:
no, your video card and memory is getting old. your cpu is faster than 95% of computers out there.

I think somewhere between 20-25 frames per second is about equivalent to how fast your eye sees.

Not really. The 3.06 Ghz P4 has been around for ever. It might be faster than 90% of all PCs. But probably only 30 to 40 % of gamers. Anyhow he's right, he is probably due for a new PC in about six months. He could extend the life of his current PC by buying a 6600GT though.

VELCRO_FLY
05-03-2005, 09:44 PM
Just curious how do I change settings like water, effects, etc, etc to get better fps. I'm not sure what my fps is running right now, but I'm sure it could be better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

fordfan25
05-03-2005, 10:16 PM
you have to open your UBI folder. then open pacific fighters folder from there i think you look for the one tittled config. it'll be whight looking with what looks like a little yellow gear. then scroll to the bottm of the page. if your useing OpenGL then under the openGL settings find the lines that read water="what ever number" the water LVs go from water 1 through 3. 3 being the highst and most hardwear hungry. also you can change things like forst=1,2,3 and effects= ect ect.

VW-IceFire
05-03-2005, 10:35 PM
Anything above 30FPS tends to look really good. You should aim to have your average FPS in a QMB match to be around 40 so that in heavy situations it drops to maybe 30 or 25.

Its a bit of a misnomer about the eye being fixed to 30FPS. A smooth image at 30FPS is linked to television screens and television images (they are blurred between frames)...computer screens are drawn and work a little differently and the eye has some perception to distinguish above 30FPS. But that perception weakens significantly past 30FPS - thats why its generally the magic number. I read Carmack and John Romero argue over this one in an interview once till they both agreed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jex_TG
05-09-2005, 08:32 AM
I was going to recommend Operation Flashpoint, Ghost Recon or Raven Shield but then I realised you meant Frames per Second lol