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HelSqnProtos
01-25-2005, 02:34 PM
I have been a loyal supporter of the Oleg Maddox development team from before FB came out. I have purchased all their products. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK THAT I BE ABLE TO JOIN A MULTIPLAYER GAME WITH ALL THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY???http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Jeeeeez, I am pissed !!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

And I don't want to hear about Ubi.com or ASE either. The community does not use them. They use Jiri's HyperLobby. For good reason! It is superior. Plain and simple.

From my readings on this situation, I have come to understand that Jiri's hosting company is using an outdated Linux kernerl that restricts player count to 980. Surely Ubi can provide this man with a server!!! He services 95% of the Online Community. Get it together already! We buy the product, we are loyal to the community and the developer, we deserve some basic services and respect. Its not all about charging us for new games and addons. I have no problem purchasing those, but **** I want some basic services with that if you please. Support for things like skins and a proper multiplayer interface are basics!

Try to get your thumb out and fix some of these problems. Wow, nothing to piss me off like corporate greed. Give the man a server, whatever it takes, you have thousands of online players, service them already. What kind of game company doesn't support MP??? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Get it together http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

WUAF_Black-Rose
01-25-2005, 02:45 PM
Now i use All Seeing eye, no connection limits....

but no chat... :-\

noshens
01-25-2005, 02:46 PM
i hope you get banned

HelSqnProtos
01-25-2005, 02:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by noshens:
i hope you get banned <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its sad when cousins marry.

JFC_Warhawk
01-25-2005, 02:58 PM
Anything that is not the "zone" is superior.

Averaging 50 players in Ubi, its very quiet and everyone is there to play http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

eddiemac0
01-25-2005, 02:59 PM
Technically, nobody owes you anything...

Troll2k
01-25-2005, 03:37 PM
Why should Ubi support a 3rd party program when they have their own.

They would be better off making their server more popular.

Jester_159th
01-25-2005, 03:40 PM
As much as I don't like Ubi's business policies, I'd like you to explain to me how HyperLobby being based on an old server with a connection limit is Ubi;s problem.

Jiri is independant. He's not either employed by or affiliateed with Ubi. If you'd thought this through you'd realise your post is badly thought out and unwarranted.

The only way the HyperLobby player limit would become Ubi's problem would be if they bought it and the rights to the software from Jiri. And since they already supply a game lobby, that is hardly likely is it?

Bottom line is you're are barking up the wrong tree with this one. If I were you I'd delete or edit your post.

Weather_Man
01-25-2005, 04:04 PM
Vent your frustrations at something else. Oleg/UBISoft and HL have no relationship whatsoever. It's not fair to blame Oleg when HL is full. You can still play at UBI. There are servers there. UBI.COM WORKS. Sortof. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Frankly, I hope HL is full regularly now. Then maybe, just maybe, UBI might feel the pressure to make the necessary changes to be able to host the DS in the right room. With a router.

At the very least, HL being full means people across the world actually have the game in mass quantity now. Something we've not seen before. Good news for Oleg and future development.

Franzonto
01-25-2005, 04:09 PM
Why can't people think before they post... and I actually refer this to all people bashing the creator of this thread!

Acting cool because you know something that he naturally won't know, because he's just a normal user just like you and me who doesn't want to spend much time with small-written stuff. His assumptions were reasonable, if the reality is different tell him so, but don't bash him like that!
(And still the community likes to show off with its maturity against other flight sims... yet almost nothing of that can be seen here, since this is not the first topic of this kind).

VW-IceFire
01-25-2005, 04:19 PM
Ubi does offer us a service...UBI.com. We don't like it, it doesn't work properly, it has no useful features, and its got a memory leak the size of a small battleship but its there. Thats what they offer.

Jiri and HyperLobby offers so much more. But its full. Jiri is doing what he can no doubt, we do what we can, Ubi does what it wants to do. The situation couldn't be more simple.

The only thing to change this situation is for Jiri to start charging for HyperLobby. Which means I'm out...my student budget can only afford so much.

SeminoleX
01-25-2005, 04:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>UBI YOU Cheapskate <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif Had to chuckle at that one.

Aren't the majority of public servers free...mainly because many of the onliners refuse to pay to play?

jagdmailer
01-25-2005, 05:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:
I have been a loyal supporter of the Oleg Maddox development team from before FB came out. I have purchased all their products. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK THAT I BE ABLE TO JOIN A MULTIPLAYER GAME WITH ALL THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY???http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Jeeeeez, I am pissed !!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

And I don't want to hear about Ubi.com or ASE either. The community does not use them. They use Jiri's HyperLobby. For good reason! It is superior. Plain and simple.

From my readings on this situation, I have come to understand that Jiri's hosting company is using an outdated Linux kernerl that restricts player count to 980. Surely Ubi can provide this man with a server!!! He services 95% of the Online Community. Get it together already! We buy the product, we are loyal to the community and the developer, we deserve some basic services and respect. Its not all about charging us for new games and addons. I have no problem purchasing those, but **** I want some basic services with that if you please. Support for things like skins and a proper multiplayer interface are basics!

Try to get your thumb out and fix some of these problems. Wow, nothing to piss me off like corporate greed. Give the man a server, whatever it takes, you have thousands of online players, service them already. What kind of game company doesn't support MP??? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Get it together http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If hyperlobby is full, maybe you guys could check with Galen Thurber ? Does he run some online flight sim site ?

Jagd

Jester_159th
01-25-2005, 05:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Franzonto:
Why can't people think before they post... and I actually refer this to all people bashing the creator of this thread!

Acting cool because you know something that he naturally won't know, because he's just a normal user just like you and me who doesn't want to spend much time with small-written stuff. His assumptions were reasonable, if the reality is different tell him so, but don't bash him like that!
(And still the community likes to show off with its maturity against other flight sims... yet almost nothing of that can be seen here, since this is not the first topic of this kind). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Perhaps you should take your own advice.

There are so many obvious signs that Ubi and HyperLobby are totally seperate entities, oh lets see..A give away might just be that there is no OFFICIAL link to the HyperLobby website on the Ubi site. Or the fact that the name Ubi doesn't preceed or appear anywhere in or near the name HyperLobby.

His assumptions weren't reasonable in the least. Especially not the part where it was suggested that upgrading HyperLobby was Ubi's responsibility. As an analogy, that would be about as reasonable as Ford doing a recall on their product, and you driving your Ford into a Volkswagen dealer and demanding they put it right. Your assumption being that, since they both build cars, they must be part of the same organisation.

Think before posting? Some of us do.

Stackhouse25th
01-25-2005, 05:40 PM
I support HyperLobby. It's about time someone did something for another. Nobody likes the rediculous interface UBI has put in. We are virtual aviators, not virtual ground pounders. We are elite.

HelSqnProtos
01-25-2005, 05:43 PM
It's unbelievable the amount of fanboys we have in here. Grow up, kissing Ubi's butt won't get you anywhere. The fact is that Ubi BENEFITS from HyperLobby, so when there is a problem with a service that most of their customers are using, they should take an interest. I am well aware of the fact that Ubi has no business connection to Jiri fools.

My point is that, since Ubi does derive a benefit from sites like Hyperlobby and ILskins , they should offer support to these sites when they are in need. Lord know they have done enough for this community. The pedantic, mental masturbation that happening in this thread has nothing do do with solving the problems of the game. Ubi DOES owe its customer something, and that is the bottome line. The rest of you fanboys can take your convoluted logic elsewhere. I own 2 business that I started from scratch -- I made them sucessful because I adhered to one principle -- THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT

I paid my money for the games like everyone else, I have every right to voice my concerns and displeasure in a public forum purporting to represent the game.Being a fanboy is just a sign of a weak mind. The fact is I don't care what business relationships exist or don't exist. If I have a third party whose operations are synergistic and beneficial to mine. You can be **** sure I will be looking out for them. Ubi needs to do the same.

Jettexas
01-25-2005, 05:46 PM
He's out of line no doubt, (the existence or non-existence of Hyper-Lobby never sold a copy of the game for Ubi, so why would it be a concern to them?)
but it gives me chance to grind on an old axe....

Ubi.com is actually a pretty nice interface, has all the bells and whistles, but
Ubis stubborn refusal to fix the hosting behind a router issue is preposterous.They know, they have known, they do nothing.Simply laziness. Might try a 40 hour week once in a while.
Probably a union thing....(sigh)

Simply awful customer service.

Hyperlobby is a hillbilly interface,its rough..real rough but its the best venue out there -and its freely provided by a third party community member.However I see no linkage here
whatsoever whereby Ubi should fork over the server space, if it doesnt sell product.


S!
Jett

HelSqnProtos
01-25-2005, 05:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> If I have a third party whose operations are synergistic and beneficial to mine. You can be **** sure I will be looking out for them. Ubi needs to do the same. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Or was that not thought out enough for the fanboys in here.

jagdmailer
01-25-2005, 05:52 PM
What about Galen Thurber ?

skyfox_249th
01-25-2005, 05:53 PM
i think hyperlobby is an excellent place to meet and run games at. i like the idea, that jiri and ubisoft run such a service together.

would be the best thing for everyone, thats what i think!

Spider_439th
01-25-2005, 05:59 PM
Despites the fact that UBI and HYPERLOBBY are two entities, this is true that if HL does not exist the il-2 community has been less important. If you try the ubi.com MP service, you know what i mean ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://pages.videotron.com/tiger439/439KGCrest1.gif

Jester_159th
01-25-2005, 06:04 PM
Protos. The customer is always right is always a good policy. But tell me, as per my analogy earlier. If a customer walked into one of your stores and demanded you put right a fault with a completely seperate company's product, what would you say? If the answer is yes, then I would guess that you might have two successful businesses that are working to capacity every day....But you're profit margin is probably mighty thin.

Obviously comparing two profit making organisation to the situation with Ubi and the 3rd party guys is a less than accurate since the 3rd party guys are non profit. But it's the best I could think of at the time. And whether you like it or not my argument stands. Yours on the otherhand does not.

You, Who claims to be a successful businessman, is demanding that a huge corporation lay out cash where they'll get no return whatsoever. In effect to become a charity. And the corporation you pick to demand this of is Ubi?? With their history of carring about nothing but the bottom line???

And then, when we point out the faults in your logic, you start insulting those who don't agree with you. Interesting business strategy. I'll assume you employ a marketing manager.

And if your first reaction to being critisised is the type of post you just made above I would LOVE to be standing in one of your stores when a customer walks in demanding you do something completely unreasonable and shrieking that "The customer is always right!!!"

HelSqnProtos
01-25-2005, 06:21 PM
Jester,

Firstly let me commend you on your writing style, excellent. Now you just need to work on content sir. S~!

By your own admission your comparing apples to oranges. I won't even bother to go into the detail as I am getting bored of this already. Suffice it to say. In MY opinion, having actually started and run businesses, Ubi has an obligation. You may disagree, you quote profit margins, ect.... The impact of two servers on Ubi profit margin is absolutely infitesimal in relation to a cost benefit analysis.

As for my argument not standing up, that is your personal subjective opinion and like the rest of your post, has no relationship to the facts. Also how many businesses do you have?????

Jester_159th
01-25-2005, 07:55 PM
Protos,

An excellent response. As you quite rightly point out, my opinion on the matter is subjective. As is nearly every opinion posted on most forums on the internet. And as is yours.

Ubi unfortunately have proved on many occasions that their profit margin is more important to them than the customer. With the size of their organisation they know that, no matter how much we complain about them, we will always come back since they basically corner this market at the moment.

I see your point about them gaining moral support by backing the 3rd party guys. My point is that it won't happen. Since they have no legal obligation to do so, and they'll make no profit from it, they won't do it.

Perhaps a better analogy would have been this:

Asking Microsoft to fund future development of Linux.

Now as a businessman, if you could put together a presentation that would demonstrate to Ubi how their organisation could benefit and increase profits from such a step, then you may be able to start something. And, as a long time flight sim enthusiast, if you could I would be eternally grateful.

Unfortunately I doubt very much that anyone from Ubi's executive ever reads these forums, so this isn't the place for it.

I fully agree with you that we'll have to agree to differ on this one and put it to bed.

I do, however, look forward to debating other subjective matter with you in the future! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

HelSqnProtos
01-25-2005, 08:05 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif for Jester


Well not to put too fine a point on it, But Linux and MS are competing products. That is not the case with HL and Ubi. Its not about moral obligation. Though that goes a long way, with me at least. Its about providing the customer with an experience that leaves them satisfied. In this regard Ubi has failed me several times. As for how it would benefit Ubi. The fact that the more people play this game, the more will buy their product, and the cycle will continue. Thats just one tiny part of a larger strategy of course, but its reason enough on its own to support HL in some fashion, as their own MP browser product has serious issues.

Tully__
01-26-2005, 04:03 AM
Ubi are unlikely to take any action to support HL as it supports non-Ubi products. A more productive line may be to post on the HL forums and ask if there's anything the community can do to help Jiri and his ISP resolve the connection limit issue.

carguy_
01-26-2005, 04:19 AM
IMO we should donate to Jiri so he makes another,extended HL with a better server.

HL is full quite often now.Very bad to have problems getting online.

x6BL_Brando
01-26-2005, 06:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>the existence or non-existence of Hyper-Lobby never sold a copy of the game for Ubi, so why would it be a concern to them? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not so sure about this suggestion. (No attack on your post Jet, just a point to enter the conversation http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)
I certainly bought Pacific Fighters through the influence and existence of HyperLobby.

I'm not particularly interested in the Pacific war, 'n I could've happily stayed on the Eastern Front and the Normandy maps, at least until the promised BoB sim materialises. I bought PF in order to stay current with the version being flown online in HyperLobby. I don't think I'm alone in this. I know that I tried the Ubi-lobbies and wasn't impressed - I have a router and couldn't host the missions I enjoy writing - frankly I thought it was a bust!

I got used to flying in the Warbirds lobby/arenas years ago, and I enjoy the feeling of being with a regular crowd. Names flash up, greetings are exchanged, contests are arranged, and there's a constant flow of chat......WB was like that, and HyperLobby took on that role when IL2-Sturmovik came out and the squad "defected" to the Russian Front. As I said in the previous paragraph, Ubi.com was a bust even then, and I think the sim would have been an offline game for me if Jiri Fotjasek hadn't come up with his outstanding contribution to the online community. I would have stayed flying Warbirds for my enjoyment of "being at an event" when I log in every evening.

The numbers speak for themselves - the 980-online window is often seen these days - and I think Jiri certainly deserves a note of thanks from Ubi, but I also certainly don't imagine they'll do anything like stumping up funds to help out. Added to that, is anybody asking JF whether he would want their help? I've always felt that he values his independence in this matter.

Whatever else, I don't think that starting a thread which includes shouting ....ubi you cheapskates...in the title is going to help anyone's cause. It's like I get a flat tyre, look around, see someone and shout "hey a$$hole, come and help me change this wheel!" Not very likely to succeed.

JG54_Arnie
01-26-2005, 06:28 AM
HelSqnProtos,

Did you know that you join the same server if you go through either HL or ASE when you go to for example Greatergreen or EasternHotshots.

HL or ASE are not essential for your flying pleasure, just save the ip's of your favourite servers and join through direct IP. To do this: Go to multiplayer in the game itself, select "Join Server" fill in the ip in the field below "server adrress" and you're good to go! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HL, UBI, ASE are all just means of getting to a server the easy way, nothing more, nothing less.

WOLFMondo
01-26-2005, 06:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Troll2k:
Why should Ubi support a 3rd party program when they have their own.

They would be better off making their server more popular. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cause if Ubi used it and payed for it they could stick up all there marketing and advertising gubbins on it.

The real reason they won't take on HL is because there Ubi.com service is for all there games. 1 server browser for all Ubi pubished games. Financially makes sense.

DuxCorvan
01-26-2005, 08:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:
It's unbelievable the amount of fanboys we have in here. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I wonder why... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Grow up, kissing Ubi's butt won't get you anywhere. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know people that has got really far kissin' butts. They own businesses now... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The fact is that Ubi BENEFITS from HyperLobby, so when there is a problem with a service that most of their customers are using, they should take an interest. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, UBI also benefits from me, they should gimme a new grafix card... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I am well aware of the fact that Ubi has no business connection to Jiri fools. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's Jiri 'fools' service what you're begging for. Insulting the owners of things you desire usually don't get good results. And as you are aware, UBI couldn't care less about HL issues, so why adressing them?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>My point is that, since Ubi does derive a benefit from sites like Hyperlobby and ILskins , they should offer support to these sites when they are in need. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You shouldn't mix watching 'Highway to Heaven' with drugs, lad. It's YOU who benefits from those sites. And you can support them if you wish. There's a PayPal button for donation in Il2Skins. I've used it a couple times.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Lord know they have done enough for this community. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And despite that, you call them 'fools'... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The pedantic, mental masturbation that happening in this thread has nothing do do with solving the problems of the game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mental masturbation is a lonely pleasure you should practice right now. BTW, the topic of this thread has neither nothing to do with the problems of the game. Just with your problems to find playmates, a problem I suspect you suffer since a little kid.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Ubi DOES owe its customer something, and that is the bottome line. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

UBI just owe you a DVD box with two CDs inside, and you have them. Well... and maybe a Betty bomber.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The rest of you fanboys can take your convoluted logic elsewhere. I own 2 business that I started from scratch -- I made them sucessful because I adhered to one principle -- THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And the sentence may be right, because you can't be your own customer... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Convoluted enough, huh? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I paid my money for the games like everyone else, I have every right to voice my concerns and displeasure in a public forum purporting to represent the game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is not a public forum. It's UBI's open private forum. But, you're right, you can send a letter to your local newspaper, and expect UBI's reaction. Don't expect standing.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Being a fanboy is just a sign of a weak mind. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lolololol oof oof http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The fact is I don't care what business relationships exist or don't exist. If I have a third party whose operations are synergistic and beneficial to mine. You can be **** sure I will be looking out for them. Ubi needs to do the same. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since UBI's not doing it, it's obvious UBI doesn't need to do it.

Man, you're really misleaded. Ask HL to renew their servers. If they are not rich enough, give'em the benefits of your second business. Then they will surely look after you... VIP Player of the Year... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

But, Ok, you're free to try it. Good luck.

HelSqnProtos
01-26-2005, 09:38 AM
Dux as usual you have nothing productive to add and are merely looking to up your post count. You seem to want to try to be comedic in your threads. Got news for you, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif your not funny, your boring. ZZzzzzzzz

The entire post is merely an attemp to twist wha I wrote, what are you 5 you bullocksmongler,your so lowercase in all your post, pandering to the lowest common denominator but as you correctly pointed out its a public forum. Oh not that I expect an honest response but how many businesses do YOU have????

HelSqnProtos
01-26-2005, 09:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG54_Arnie:
HelSqnProtos,

Did you know that you join the same server if you go through either HL or ASE when you go to for example Greatergreen or EasternHotshots.

HL or ASE are not essential for your flying pleasure, just save the ip's of your favourite servers and join through direct IP. To do this: Go to multiplayer in the game itself, select "Join Server" fill in the ip in the field below "server adrress" and you're good to go! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HL, UBI, ASE are all just means of getting to a server the easy way, nothing more, nothing less. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

S~! Arnie

I mentioned both of those services in my original post, so clearly I knew about them. I would ask you sir, did you read this post and thread?

HelSqnProtos
01-26-2005, 09:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
Ubi are unlikely to take any action to support HL as it supports non-Ubi products. A more productive line may be to post on the HL forums and ask if there's anything the community can do to help Jiri and his ISP resolve the connection limit issue. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tully, I have indeed been to the HyperLobby forum and read the thread-s there on the server being full. Frankly I found more useful information here, at least in regards to the specifics of the problem. Jiri hasn't posted much in his forums about this, at least that I saw, in my 15 min search. It doesn't seem to be high priority for him. Why should it be??? He has certainly done more than enough --- A true contributor to the community, he got the job done. He certainly needs to contribute no more, imho. But the fools in here think that a third party service that handles a Primary Game Function should find its own solutions. UNBELIEVABLE. I would have NO hesitation contributing to HL. As far as I know, Jiri has not asked for funds. If there is a link I have missed somewhere I would be happy to do my part. But that brings us to the original problem. Why should Jiri be doing Ubi's job??? There has yet to be a satisfactory answer to this.

T_O_A_D
01-26-2005, 09:52 AM
HelSqnProtos

I'm not going to say I feel much different but your tone is out of line.

UBI would be satisfactory if we could host on it behind a router, but we can't, UBI fault for what ever reaason.

It would be nice if Oleg could put in a game service into the game istself. Like alto of other games have. Like Battlefield 1942/Vietnam, Vietcong, Medal of Honor series. I'm not sure why he hasn't unless its something to do with UBI again.

Again Its not UBI responsibility to deal with Jiri http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif But How about one of the community members approach Jiri and see if they can set him up with better reasources or possibly a mirror site or something.

One last thing Correct your tone here or I'll lock it down.

DuxCorvan
01-26-2005, 10:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:
Dux as usual you have nothing productive to add and are merely looking to up your post count. You seem to want to try to be comedic in your threads. Got news for you, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif your not funny, your boring. ZZzzzzzzz

The entire post is merely an attemp to twist wha I wrote, what are you 5 you bullocksmongler,your so lowercase in all your post, pandering to the lowest common denominator but as you correctly pointed out its a public forum. Oh not that I expect an honest response but how many businesses do YOU have???? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Public forum? Nope. UBI forum.

Me bullocksmongler? Oh, well, you lovepipeblower.

My business? Not your business. In the Internet? Oh... well... EVERYBODY has a business in Internet... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

What do you sell? Sell it to me...

And then...

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_4_115.gif

...don't forget the CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT. (Specially if he argues with you). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Now go on with your 'productive' thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Meanwhile I'll go HL and profit from the free bandwidth you're leaving there now. Enjoy feeding the trolls! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

HelSqnProtos
01-26-2005, 10:17 AM
S~! T_O_A_D

TOAD there is absolutely nothing inappropriate in my tone or written comments. I have responded to posts in the same spirit and tone as they were written. I feel I have been careful not to escalate. My purpose with this thread has been to start the dialogue on a problem that is getting progressively worse day by day. Towards that end I have been sucessful. Lock it at your leasure, though I don't think any boundaries have been crossed yet and people should be able to continue the dialogue.

Happy to hear you feel the same about the core issue. I too would love to see an ingame browser such as other games have. I get so tired of having to exit the game to reconnect or change servers. I don't know why it hasn't been done in game either, but Oleg is certainly no fool and would definetly be aware of this. Especially as he is was a UT fan. So I would wager it is Ubi related.


If talking about that is going to get a thread lock - So Be It. All other interpretations regarding tone and the like are purely subjective, and to be honest don't interest me in the slightest. My intent was to mix it up and start the fermentation process. Academic discussions on real problems almost NEVER provide solutions. The post was meant to act as a lightning rod and towards that end has been very successful. Ubi may not like it -- But who cares about Ubi. I am down with Oleg and 1c and support them not a distributor who won't even provide a functional MP interface.


The FACT is that Ubi has a non fully functional MP Game Browser that has serious issues. They have relied on third party support to perform a Primary Game Function. Now that third party is experiencing issues providing that Primary Game Funtion. How long is Ubi supposed to get a free ride for????

HelSqnProtos
01-26-2005, 10:22 AM
Dux who needs sleep meds when your around. Just read a few of your posts and ZZzzzzzzzz. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Capt._Tenneal
01-26-2005, 10:23 AM
There you go. T_O_A_D mentioned it and protos agrees -- end this already. While it's been fun, the arguments are just going around in circles now.

Maybe they can't find a room in HL, no ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

HelSqnProtos
01-26-2005, 10:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:


Maybe they can't find a room in HL, no ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

S~! Captain

LOL excellent. Now Dux take a lesson, thats funny.

JG54_Arnie
01-26-2005, 10:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:
S~! Arnie

I mentioned both of those services in my original post, so clearly I knew about them. I would ask you sir, did you read this post and thread? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

S! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yeah, I read it and skimmed through this thread, just thought I'd explain the basic, as I read from your post that you might not know about the basic principle of joining a game. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Hey, dont look at me, its better to say it, if you didnt know it could have been of good use.

The rest of the thread isnt really interesting as its all about something else than the game itself and not really in place here.

Anyways, just enjoy the game and now that you know HL doesnt add anything to it itself, do so even more. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

HelSqnProtos
01-26-2005, 11:03 AM
S~! Arnie

Hmmm..... ahhh.... ok Yall have a good day now you heah! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

T_O_A_D
01-26-2005, 01:17 PM
You haven't crossed any lines but some of the word choices just fire up people is all. But I beleive this thread has just about went to the end though.

DuxCorvan
01-26-2005, 04:54 PM
Yes, Dux is here to put the thread to sleep... zzzzzzzzz. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/7/7_11_116.gif

Oh! 2570 posts! My hard work gives its fruits! My kid dreams made true! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Slingn
01-26-2005, 05:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by noshens:
i hope you get banned <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its sad when cousins marry. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was a funny comeback http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HelSqnProtos
01-26-2005, 09:49 PM
Thank you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif