View Full Version : OT:Croatia vs England 2:0

10-11-2006, 01:04 PM
Proud to be Croat!!!!


10-11-2006, 01:06 PM

10-11-2006, 01:08 PM
Good win guys, you were by far the better team. We certainly didn't deserve the win, especially with Paul Robinsons goalkeeping.

10-11-2006, 01:13 PM
Robinson was England's best player, divot aside. If it weren't for him, it would have been 4 or 5 nil. Says it all really.

Good and well deserved win for Croatia.

10-11-2006, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by fly_zo:
Proud to be Croat!!!!


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10-11-2006, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by mmitch10:
Good win guys, you were by far the better team. We certainly didn't deserve the win, especially with Paul Robinsons goalkeeping.

Drazen Ladic (former goalkeeper) just said that same thing happened to him eight years ago, so it is just bad luck.

10-11-2006, 01:25 PM
@ billyTheKid_22, what will be your reaction if i didn't crop that picture http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

10-11-2006, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by fly_zo:
@ billyTheKid_22, what will be your reaction if i didn't crop that picture http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


10-11-2006, 03:46 PM
When I saw the ball do what it did, I just went:


...and thought of all the times that England keepers had been defeated by some jammy event. Shilton springs to mind, for one.

Well done to Croatia...England showed once again that they are overrated.

10-11-2006, 03:54 PM
Not a good evening for the UK by any stretch of the imagination- the Ukraine beats Scotland 2-0. Otlichno, Ukraina! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

10-11-2006, 03:58 PM
As an Englishman, I never fail to be surprised by the way in which we love football, a sport at which we are bad, and take little or no interest in gliding, rowing or indeed any of the sports which we actually stand a decent chance of winning.

Whenever there's a big tournament like the world or european cups out come all the flags (half of which either say "JJB SPORTS" or "England" on them, which probably means that a % of the population consider them to be synonyms), supporters fill the pubs and bars, and there is much anticipation. When we crash out of whatever cup it happens to be this time, the whole nation affects a disappointed attitude, sometimes for weeks on end. It's pathetic!

We pay footballers huge amounts of money for repeated failures. Has anybody sat down and worked out how much each England goal costs? What about each match win? I won't even mention cups...

We spend hours in pubs and bars, glued to the screens cheering on our lads as they proceed from incompetence to stupidity with a few fouls in between, and worst of all <span class="ev_code_red">we never learn</span>. Every time the press tells us "England stand a real chance this year!", and the whole nation falls for it, hook line and sinker. I mean, (for my older readers) if your girlfriend promised that you'd go all the way in 1970 and failed to deliver, would you still be with her now? So why the heck do we still believe the press when they say that this time it will be different. England is the football equivalent of the fat 40 year old virgin nerd at the edge of the party, forever optimistic that tonight will be the night when that beautiful popular girl in the middle of the crowd will succumb to his dubious charms. Watching England games is car-crash telivision. It's like the X-factor or pop idol, with the twist that an entire nation is backing that 40 year-old homeless man who has turned up to sing his version of "Heaven is a Place on Earth" in an awful falsetto, with modified lyrics ("they say in heaven crack comes first"), only to projectile vomit a stomach full of special brew over the judges after the first chorus.

Personally I wish that the nation would either take football seriously (as in train and test every child to find the best talent, and devote the finest minds in our universities to the development of tactics and strategy) so that we actually win, or else give up and start supporting something we actually win at least once every couple of decades.

It's one thing to support the underdog. It's another thing to back a Toy Poodle in a fight with a Velociraptor. Twenty times in a row.

If you venture into a pub in this country, the chances are that far more of the population will know who Wayne Rooney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Rooney), Peter Crouch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Crouch), Steven Gerrard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard) or Rio Ferdinand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Ferdinand) are than will know who Goeffrey Chaucer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaucer), William Shakespeare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare), Arthur Wellesley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Wellesley%2C_1st_Duke_of_Wellington) or Winston Churchill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill) were. Let alone fighter pilots like Sharkey Ward (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharkey_Ward), Johnnie Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Johnson_%28pilot%29) or Douglas Bader (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Bader). And don't even get me started on engineering or music! Something is really wrong with our priorities. If we value football above all else, we're shockingly bad at it. If it's just a game, why does the average "man in the street" know so much about it, and so little about anything else?

I suppose America probably has a similar problem with Basketball and their versions of Rounders and Rugby, except that since nobody else plays their pet games, they never have to suffer the indignity of repeated crushing defeats at their national sports.

This might in fact offer a route to salvation for England. Perhaps we might adopt irony or sarcasm as our national sport...

Well done Croatia, but remember that eventually you'll have to take on a real football team... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

10-11-2006, 04:04 PM
i really dont care much for football...

10-11-2006, 04:09 PM
Why is it loved? Because England 'invented' it in its modern form.

To me, the English love to play games (and create them)...they don't necessarily have to win to take pleasure from playing games (which is just as well for the most part)

It's also more likely that 'men in the street' are going to discuss contemporary things (particularly sport) than things of yesteryear. But, why does the man in the street need to know about Johnnie Johnson more than a footballer, for instance? I dare say most would know who Douglas Bader was for the film, if nothing else. They'd probably also think that he was a fabulous fighter pilot who overcame a tremendous setback and they'd largely be correct. Old Douggie was pretty fallible, though, as his 'Big Wing' idea was largely a failure.

10-11-2006, 04:13 PM
Bader also wanted to stick with the .303 Brownings when other pilots such as Tuck and Malan wanted to switch to cannon-armed fighters- he was wrong about that as well.

10-11-2006, 05:23 PM
Well until we actually decide to play with a team rather than individuals, I can see this happening again, and again!

Well done though to Croatia, you deserved it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

10-11-2006, 05:48 PM
dobro vecer! well done croatia... croatia always performs at home!

10-11-2006, 05:59 PM
Bravo susjedi!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

10-11-2006, 06:02 PM
You cant blame Sven either http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

10-11-2006, 06:10 PM
Just a game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif))))))


10-11-2006, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by F19_tintin:
You cant blame Sven either http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I am not sure what is the most fun on that pic, him missing the ball, or Borat in the background hehe