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Ernst_Rohr
08-03-2007, 07:55 AM
First off, welcome to IL2, we are glad to have you guys!

I couldn't help but notice some issues last night flying on the blue side, and thought I might point a couple of things out.

First off, you SHOULD read the brief. Zekes has them there for a reason, and they give you a pretty good idea what your generally supposed to be doing.

When taxiing, you should be snaking (which is using your rudder to turn in a left right left right continuous pattern) to make sure your nose is clear. You should also take the time to look around and get an idea how the field is laid out. We had a pretty spectacular ground collision because someone spawned in a Ki-43, hit the gas and plowed right into a Ki-61 that was taxiing down the taxiway (which was pretty hard to miss, since there were five 61's in line taxiing).

One thing I would STRONGLY suggest though, is flying with servers with icons for a bit to get used to target identification, if your not used to it.

As a pointer, when your flying Allied birds, you DONT want to dogfight with Japanese planes. They turn much tighter than you, and are far better at it. Stick to a high speed pass, extend away, then turn around.

A couple of you guys were almost there, but you turned back around too soon. Keep working on it, you almost have it down! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Now I am going to have to rant for just a bit;

Not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES I got shot by my own side on the New Guinea map. Not just a brief burst and "oops wrong target" but having someone saddle up and stick to me, guns hammering. Dont be a kill*****, make sure WHAT your target is!

BTW, when someone is typing in all caps CHECK FIRE YOUR SHOOTING FRIENDLY, you should generally hold your fire and verify your target. Assuming you bother with reading the chat bar, of course.....

If you CANNOT tell a silver Ki-61 from an OD P-40, Zekes may not be the best choice for you.

Finally, shooting "over the shoulder" of a friendly aircraft is frowned upon. Especially if your accuracy resembles that of a blind hyperactive squirrel. Shooting your own people in an attempt to score on the bad guy is really really poor form.

We had some really good fights last night on the New Guinea map over the ships, marred slightly by a few folks flying friendly that basically blasted anything that got in front of them. A couple of them actually listened, and to you guys, no harm no foul. Welcome to IL2, and continue to ask questions!

To the two IDIOTS;
Idiot #1) If your idea of taxiing is "jam the throttle wide open", your not going to do well, or make any friends flying on heavily populated airfields. And shoulder shooting is bad, mmkay? We all know you want to shoot something down, but firing past friendlies is bad ESPECIALLY when you CANT FREAKING AIM!

Be glad the IJAAF cant mail you a repair bill there Deadeye. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

2) IDIOT #2, Blasting everything with wings isn't a viable method of target identification. Generally when your flying for the Japanese, the OTHER planes with the BIG RED MEATBALLS on them are FRIENDLY planes. You know, the ones that are on YOUR SIDE! Furthermore, since you obviously dont know what voice comms are, glancing at the chat bar occasionally isnt a bad idea, ESPECIALLY when you own side is TELLING you to QUIT shooting them.

I am a pretty patient person, but Mr. Idiot #2, for the first time in a long time, I SERIOUSLY considered shooting down a friendly plane. You managed to send me back to base smoking twice, and fed me to the P-40's nicely after you smoked my engine the third time. Way to go there genius!

/rant off

Sorry about that, but I feel better now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

To the rest of you new pilots, use those two as an example of how NOT to fly, and welcome to the game. We do like having you guys join up!

Ernst_Rohr
08-03-2007, 07:55 AM
First off, welcome to IL2, we are glad to have you guys!

I couldn't help but notice some issues last night flying on the blue side, and thought I might point a couple of things out.

First off, you SHOULD read the brief. Zekes has them there for a reason, and they give you a pretty good idea what your generally supposed to be doing.

When taxiing, you should be snaking (which is using your rudder to turn in a left right left right continuous pattern) to make sure your nose is clear. You should also take the time to look around and get an idea how the field is laid out. We had a pretty spectacular ground collision because someone spawned in a Ki-43, hit the gas and plowed right into a Ki-61 that was taxiing down the taxiway (which was pretty hard to miss, since there were five 61's in line taxiing).

One thing I would STRONGLY suggest though, is flying with servers with icons for a bit to get used to target identification, if your not used to it.

As a pointer, when your flying Allied birds, you DONT want to dogfight with Japanese planes. They turn much tighter than you, and are far better at it. Stick to a high speed pass, extend away, then turn around.

A couple of you guys were almost there, but you turned back around too soon. Keep working on it, you almost have it down! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Now I am going to have to rant for just a bit;

Not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES I got shot by my own side on the New Guinea map. Not just a brief burst and "oops wrong target" but having someone saddle up and stick to me, guns hammering. Dont be a kill*****, make sure WHAT your target is!

BTW, when someone is typing in all caps CHECK FIRE YOUR SHOOTING FRIENDLY, you should generally hold your fire and verify your target. Assuming you bother with reading the chat bar, of course.....

If you CANNOT tell a silver Ki-61 from an OD P-40, Zekes may not be the best choice for you.

Finally, shooting "over the shoulder" of a friendly aircraft is frowned upon. Especially if your accuracy resembles that of a blind hyperactive squirrel. Shooting your own people in an attempt to score on the bad guy is really really poor form.

We had some really good fights last night on the New Guinea map over the ships, marred slightly by a few folks flying friendly that basically blasted anything that got in front of them. A couple of them actually listened, and to you guys, no harm no foul. Welcome to IL2, and continue to ask questions!

To the two IDIOTS;
Idiot #1) If your idea of taxiing is "jam the throttle wide open", your not going to do well, or make any friends flying on heavily populated airfields. And shoulder shooting is bad, mmkay? We all know you want to shoot something down, but firing past friendlies is bad ESPECIALLY when you CANT FREAKING AIM!

Be glad the IJAAF cant mail you a repair bill there Deadeye. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

2) IDIOT #2, Blasting everything with wings isn't a viable method of target identification. Generally when your flying for the Japanese, the OTHER planes with the BIG RED MEATBALLS on them are FRIENDLY planes. You know, the ones that are on YOUR SIDE! Furthermore, since you obviously dont know what voice comms are, glancing at the chat bar occasionally isnt a bad idea, ESPECIALLY when you own side is TELLING you to QUIT shooting them.

I am a pretty patient person, but Mr. Idiot #2, for the first time in a long time, I SERIOUSLY considered shooting down a friendly plane. You managed to send me back to base smoking twice, and fed me to the P-40's nicely after you smoked my engine the third time. Way to go there genius!

/rant off

Sorry about that, but I feel better now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

To the rest of you new pilots, use those two as an example of how NOT to fly, and welcome to the game. We do like having you guys join up!

i200th_Sakagawa
08-03-2007, 08:18 AM
true m8 hehe.
Still have in my mind when p40 whitch was forward about(30meters) started spraying from close range about(20meters)toooo CORRRRSSAAAIRR
bueheheheh MG i said it was biggest noob i saw cuz i even cant imagine chap who cant recognize F4U wings profile from 20meters and there was only 1 plane with wings like that.In next step i blasted both of them hahahaha it was soo FUN.
noobs are fine from time to time cuz making game really FUN but mainly pissing advanced pilots off agree.

TgD Thunderbolt56
08-03-2007, 08:25 AM
FYI, these things don't just apply to ZvW. They're things that can be said about almost every server out there these days and is always relevant as new people come into this sim...even after all these years.

The only thing I would add is to strongly encourage EVERYONE who is online to try to get on TeamSpeak for the respective server they're on at the time. This one simple thing can do much more than any line in the chat bar to redirect well-intended green virtual pilots to do the right thing.

It doesn't matter if your English or Swedish or Russian is horrible, do it anyway.


TB

Avont29
08-03-2007, 08:28 AM
i agree with you 100% Ernst_Rohr, but this will not stop them, theres sitll gonna be idiots doing this type of thing

i remember going into zekes one day, and getting rammed into by noobs 5 times!! in one day!!

what we need to do is get the admin to ban them permantely, that way that can't come back in, and they can take their sorry arses back to that damn arcade server skies_of_fire where they can kill steal, shoulder shoot, and ram all they want, and the admin will do nothing.

someone needs to record a track, of these idiots in zekes, then we cna ban them forever, i'll try my best to get a track

Ernst_Rohr
08-03-2007, 08:55 AM
I dont mind newbies making honest mistakes, and like I said, a couple of these guys did listen and actually make an effort.

I got plastered by one guy, who was quite apologetic. I can live with that, it happens.

I was getting quite put out with the other two guys however. The first guy was just flat out spastic, he was spraying lead all over the sky, and no matter what was said, he just kept blazing away. I dont think he ever even managed to really damage anyone, but hearing (and seeing) the odd occasional hole appear in your aircraft accompanied by friendly tracer fire got old really quickly.

Number 2 was just a flat out moron.

I finally just decided to call it a night before I got really bent out of shape and flamed him, but it was awfully tempting....

leitmotiv
08-03-2007, 09:12 AM
Appalling---talk about an immersion killer.

F0_Dark_P
08-03-2007, 09:29 AM
Sorry for saying this but c'mon, this is just a game!, some guys take this to serious like il2 is something that makes up for there lost career in the airforce http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Go out in the sun and take a ice cream with your friends or something..

Summer is over soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ernst_Rohr
08-03-2007, 09:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F0_Dark_P:
Sorry for saying this but c'mon, this is just a game!, some guys take this to serious like il2 is something that makes up for there lost career in the airforce http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Go out in the sun and take a ice cream with your friends or something..

Summer is over soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes it is, which is why I logged off and killed things in Stalker for a bit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Matz0r
08-03-2007, 09:41 AM
#1 and #2 could be me!

Avont29
08-03-2007, 12:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F0_Dark_P:
Sorry for saying this but c'mon, this is just a game!, some guys take this to serious like il2 is something that makes up for there lost career in the airforce http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Go out in the sun and take a ice cream with your friends or something..

Summer is over soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ey where did you get that sig? its tight

Ken_Det
08-03-2007, 01:15 PM
Ya got to keep in mind that it could be a kid that realy dont know what there doing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Insuber
08-03-2007, 02:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F0_Dark_P:
Sorry for saying this but c'mon, this is just a game!, some guys take this to serious like il2 is something that makes up for there lost career in the airforce http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Go out in the sun and take a ice cream with your friends or something..

Summer is over soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

HEY! What if someone spits in your icecream? C'mon, it's just an icecream! You can't take it too serious! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

I never ever suffered people ruining my games, kicking my marbles, stepping on my sand castles, ... c'mon it's just a sand castle! Well, it's MY SAND CASTLE! Go eat your icecreams and let us kids alone.

Rohr you were even too gentle with them.

Regards,
Insuber

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-03-2007, 03:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ken_Det:
Ya got to keep in mind that it could be a kid that realy dont know what there doing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hardly!

Ernst_Rohr
08-03-2007, 03:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Insuber:

Rohr you were even too gentle with them.

Regards,
Insuber </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not going to make it any better by acting like the dillwhole who was shooting me.

I freely admit, I did flame a friendly doing exactly the same thing this guy did once before, but its just not worth getting that worked up about.

The better option is to change sides THEN shoot his butt out of the sky! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

F0_Dark_P
08-03-2007, 06:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Avont29:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F0_Dark_P:
Sorry for saying this but c'mon, this is just a game!, some guys take this to serious like il2 is something that makes up for there lost career in the airforce http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Go out in the sun and take a ice cream with your friends or something..

Summer is over soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ey where did you get that sig? its tight </div></BLOCKQUOTE> i made it my self in photoshop, but i am glad you like it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Insuber i understand what you say, i do but i feel like some people are to serius sometimes

Il2 is just a game!, and there are allways new players here, and how should they know all "our codes of conduct"? and i to have made some things not mention here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Krt_Bong
08-03-2007, 08:24 PM
Not to say that the other Server that was mentioned is bad or anything, they actually have a nice webpage but..,they also use the same planeset on both sides. Not very realistic but I'm sure they use Icons and WonderView and all that so..
Zekes and Spits are Full Real servers, anyone here who doesn't know what that means, if that is possible, it means we dont have little signs saying I'm Red and that guy's Blue. We usually have Skilled Pilots who don't need training wheels and fly as if we were really there (meaning we want to live long enough to return to base and not just bail after we get a kill or hit a target) Getting on comms is a good way to learn how to fly that way and maybe even make a few friends, Good Post Ernst.

ElAurens
08-03-2007, 09:00 PM
I've only flown online a couple of times of late, just been too busy and taking a break from the game. But both times I was on Zekes in July I was attacked by friendlies who would not break off, no matter what was typed in the chat. I understand that new players make mistakes, we all did. but these are not "new" players, well at least not new to gaming in general. Their behavior is purely intentional. I've seen it too many times before, on many different servers. Our pain and consternation is their fun.

I'd place their ages between 11 and 17 years old, and their primary games are FPS.

Avont29
08-03-2007, 09:38 PM
i think its all my fault..

couple months back i bought this new guy in named Lupin, he was an aim buddy from another website

he's 14, and he comes from a counter-strike source background...DAMMIT, i bet he bought all of his noob friends to come and play il2! i bet he did, cause i remember him getting some other guy hooked on this game too,....nnoobs comin in like a deadly virus..SPREADING like a ****ing virus

what have i done? dammit!

Krt_Bong
08-03-2007, 09:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
I've only flown online a couple of times of late, just been too busy and taking a break from the game. But both times I was on Zekes in July I was attacked by friendlies who would not break off, no matter what was typed in the chat. I understand that new players make mistakes, we all did. but these are not "new" players, well at least not new to gaming in general. Their behavior is purely intentional. I've seen it too many times before, on many different servers. Our pain and consternation is their fun.

I'd place their ages between 11 and 17 years old, and their primary games are FPS. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ah yes, I know the type well as I do play FPS games such as Raven Shield and BF2 I believe the collective term is Smacktard. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

The-Pizza-Man
08-04-2007, 12:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Krt_Bong:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
I've only flown online a couple of times of late, just been too busy and taking a break from the game. But both times I was on Zekes in July I was attacked by friendlies who would not break off, no matter what was typed in the chat. I understand that new players make mistakes, we all did. but these are not "new" players, well at least not new to gaming in general. Their behavior is purely intentional. I've seen it too many times before, on many different servers. Our pain and consternation is their fun.

I'd place their ages between 11 and 17 years old, and their primary games are FPS. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ah yes, I know the type well as I do play FPS games such as Raven Shield and BF2 I believe the collective term is Smacktard. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm, the word smacktard brings up memories of them on comms in CS, maybe it's better if they just stay off teamspeak all together if they are that bad.

Deadmeat313
08-04-2007, 04:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ernst_Rohr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Insuber:

Rohr you were even too gentle with them.

Regards,
Insuber </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not going to make it any better by acting like the dillwhole who was shooting me.

I freely admit, I did flame a friendly doing exactly the same thing this guy did once before, but its just not worth getting that worked up about.

The better option is to change sides THEN shoot his butt out of the sky! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ernst_Rohr, I think you had a legitimate greivance, and you dealt with it well. Firstly, you didn't let them goad you into making yourself look bad.

And secondly, you played STALKER, and that earns you cool points from me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


I'm trying to teach myself Russian by the slightly unorthodox method of playing IL-2 and STALKER as much as I can.

It isn't working. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


T.

msalama
08-05-2007, 12:46 PM
Yeah well -

I was flying a Rata on the ZvsW Khalkin-Gol map some 2 weeks ago, and there was a Chaika there who did his damnedest in trying to shoot me down. He failed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

...but got me later on when I was touching down by ramming into me at full throttle. Well I admittedly did give him some verbal after that wee incident and also reported him to the administration, who said they're going to watch the server a bit more closely now...

Yep, this just FYI.

msalama
08-05-2007, 12:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">some guys take this to serious like il2 is something that makes up for there lost career in the airforce </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh, quite possibly, but I still most cordially invite you to consider this alternative scenario, too, if you happen to have the time:

1) There is a server w/ a mature participant base.
2) Said participant base is well satisfied w/ the server.
3) A smacktard or 10 make the server their lair.
4) Being smacktards they surprisingly enough act accordingly.
5) Aforementioned mature participant base gets fed up and finds a new server.
6) A smacktard or 10 make the server their lair.
7) ?
8) Everyone's lost AF career got even more sordid http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

hejbrigade
08-05-2007, 01:27 PM
And don't forget to mention that parachute shooting is werry lame!!!

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/226/eagleparachute1944mt6.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eagleparachute1944mt6.jpg)

BTW http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

bmoffa
08-05-2007, 03:30 PM
I agree with Ernst_Rohr but would like to add one more thought. I once had a friend who actually was a pilot in the WWII in the Pacific. He had newbie problems too. He actually destroyed 5 US airplanes before ever seeing actual combat. He was piloting all 5 and none involved the enemy. Everyone was once a newbie. He was a great drinking buddy with lots of good stories. Probably the reason I like these old birds so much.

SeaFireLIV
08-06-2007, 04:11 AM
I agree with ElAurens. new guys who make mistakes are usually watching the comms line to get some idea what`s happening, even if they don`t know how to respond they can see the chat. So usually, they may shoot the wrong thing first time or so, but after that will either leave the server (out of embarrasment) or try harder not to make the same mistake.

However, those who continue shooting friendlies are doing it on purpose if they do not stop after your intial calls. japanese planes are on eof the EASIEST planes to recognise in the sim. NO ONE can miss those RED dots. And red against green shows up even more!

I think the truth is these are players probably from `quake` games who simply do not care.

If I come across these types and they do not stop when warned, I WILL shoot them down. In reality if your wingman went nuts and after repeated calls continued to shoot his own side down, then everyone would be forced to shoot him down.

Of course, I always give a general message to my own side that we have a team killer and advise that we should all shoot this guy down and that I`m going to. This way, everyone knows why I`m doing what I`m doing. I tell you once the team has shot down the TKer a few times he soon leaves!

A team killer is the greatest threat and they must be discouraged.



On warclouds I had an annoying `kid` who kept shoulder-shooting. His MO was to simply look for wherever he saw tracer then dive in shooting wildly over the shoulder. Several times I was forced to abort as he madly `pushed` his way to the front. I warned him a few times but he ignorantly refused to comply. And I know he knew his mistake. He`s just an ignorant idiot all out for his own kills.

Another annoying fact was while he and several others were chasing a lone 190, I could see a 190 closing behind them, as usual 3 allied too busy on one axis to see it. So I intercepted it. Then after chasing him off I was surrounded by 3 109s and guess what, shoot-over-shoulder boy is no where to be seen!

But I don`t shoot them down for shoulder shooting. I just left the nut to it.

This is why I hate flying on dogfight servers unless with a squad, cos of idiots like this. I mean it`s pure common sense.

stanford-ukded
08-06-2007, 05:47 AM
I wrote a guide for exactly this. It shows, in pictures, what not to do on servers.

Admitedly it's aimed at UK Dedicated servers, but none the less some of it will be relevant on other servers.

http://www.petetuson.com/stuff/ukd-guide.htm

SeaFireLIV
08-06-2007, 08:18 AM
Good guide, funny too.

Guess I`ll have to rethink shooting a Team Killer then, but oh, I so hate it when a guy starts shooting his own side just for the hell of it! I don`t wanna be banned for the wrong reasons... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I just hope the noobs read this.

WOLFPLAYER2007
08-06-2007, 06:48 PM
I have a friendly note for the newbies flying Zekes:

Get the **** out of my Thunderbolt or you will get owned like a ****ing *****.

WOLFPLAYER2007
08-06-2007, 06:48 PM
I have a friendly note for the newbies flying Zekes:

Get the **** out of my Thunderbolt or you will get owned like a ****ing b...

WOLFPLAYER2007
08-06-2007, 06:48 PM
I have a friendly note for the newbies flying Zekes:

Get the f.. out of my Thunderbolt or you will get owned like a ****ing b...

MrMojok
08-06-2007, 06:51 PM
get the fin out of my Thunderbolt or you will get owned like a bowling ball?

WOLFPLAYER2007
08-06-2007, 06:57 PM
its f.u.c.k and b.i.t.c.h

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AnaK774
08-06-2007, 07:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F16_Matz_:
#1 and #2 could be me! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Naah, you usually hit FRIENDLY targets much better :P

But generally, if you don't know what you're going to fire at, you're too far away, GET CLOSER