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Yimmy
01-27-2005, 02:20 PM

3.JG51_BigBear
01-27-2005, 06:57 PM
To answer your question I usually fly the FW-190 or the P-51. I have to wonder what online servers you're frequenting. Many of the full switch servers make good use of most of the mid to late war planes and switch the scenarios to offer different plane sets. As far as not needing new planes, I think your limiting yourself to the online community (I still don't agree with this point) but there is also the offline community that I'm sure makes use of many different types of AC. Just last night I played a few QMB to get my fix and flew the P-51B, the FW-190A9 and D9, the Corsair, the Hellcat and a late model zero. I like the variety and if the servers you fly on only have three planes to fly I would suggest finding another just for your own enjoyment.

Yimmy
01-27-2005, 07:28 PM
Well, I hope your right then, as on PF standalone 90% of people seem to be Spits, F4U's or Ki84's, with the odd bomber or late model Zero thrown in for the other 10%.

Papa_K
01-27-2005, 07:55 PM
I usually fly as a human, but my kids play the game too.

Papa_K

Maj_Death
01-27-2005, 08:33 PM
B-25 or Ki-43

Tooz_69GIAP
01-27-2005, 08:48 PM
I fly A-20s. B-25s, IL-2s, He-111s, P-40s, I-16s, Me-109 Gustavs, Me-110s, and a few others on occasion, depending on the situation.

I fly a lot of different stuff.

Griffon_25th
01-27-2005, 09:56 PM
Yeah Its extremely annoying when almost EVERYONE is in a Ki84C....I mean, dont people like a chellenge. But that usually happens more in JRebs server.

I personlly like fling any plane that provides a new challenge. Its sorta boring flying the same ones. Like last night I discovered how good F4F-4s are at Dogfighting...At least in the situations i was in. It just tore planes in HALF (.50 cals)

3.JG51_BigBear
01-27-2005, 10:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Yimmy:
Well, I hope your right then, as on PF standalone 90% of people seem to be Spits, F4U's or Ki84's, with the odd bomber or late model Zero thrown in for the other 10%. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you were talking about stand alone servers. IMHO the Pacific Fighters stand alone plane set isn't complete. There are some really key aircraft missing, and unlike the Russian and Western theatres that have matured over the last three years, PF is still in its earliest stages. The PF standalone offers about as many planes as the original IL2. Its unfortunate but right now many servers are not offering many pacific scenarios and I think lack of plane variety and a lack of balance really takes a lot of fun out of them right now. I personally am also having a problem adjusting to the Japanes aircraft. The Ki-84 is a dominator, I don't want to argue its historical accuracy because I have no idea, but in the hands of a competant pilot its a hand full. Other than that, the Ki-61 and the Zero are relatively low powered machines. Coming from flying the high powered German and American planes its very difficult to adapt flying styles and tactics to these things because staying low and slow will eventually get a pilot killed unless he/she is totally on the ball. The Ki-61s and Zeros also have armament with very poor muzzle velocity and hitting power. They are really close range weapons and when you're trying to chase after a Corsair that's running at 600kph after BnZing you and realizing that you're under powered, over heating radial or out of date inline isn't up to the job it gets frustrating.

pauldun171
01-27-2005, 10:56 PM
American planes..
- P-47,F4U or Corsair, WildCat, F-6, P-40 anymodel, P-400 OCCASIONALLY, P-38 OCCASIONALLY F-2, B-25

German - 190 A6, 109g2, he-111
Japanese - Equal parts Zero, Ki61, Ki-43 and Busa. Will only fly Japanese if server needs the sides balanced (20 red vs 3 blue gets boring)....and I avoid furballs at all cost.

As for years...I prefer 43 and under servers

CreaseKeeper
01-27-2005, 11:57 PM
hehe, yimmy you know what I prefer. When flying IJA it's the Zeke. when flying Allied, it's a mix, but I prefer the Spit though I'm not a fan of the CW. and I too avoid furballs.

Yimmy, notice that when I have my server going there is a bit more variety due to no F4U-1C or KI-84c, cuts down on the dweebery, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-S-

Mulleteer
01-28-2005, 12:51 AM
I have to vent little.

I find it very frustrating that if you are flying even little bit more "crappier" plane you're instantly the first to be targeted, the attackers rarely even consider the odds but somehow assume that they *will* automatically win. They can even have bandit on their 6 and instead avoiding fire of it they will come after the "crappy" plane. Funny thing is that kills seem to be very important but score isn't. Go back to play CS.

Another thing I find revolting is bragging about the kills when you had plane out of those 3 choices and at upperhand position in first place. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

fluup
01-28-2005, 01:00 AM
Mostly Spitfire CW (does that mean Cut Wing or something? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)
When I'm doing carrier flights usually the F4U

Oh and now and then the P-40s and A20

WOLFMondo
01-28-2005, 01:35 AM
None of the above!

I like the A20's, Il2's, 109F's, Fw190's, P47 and P38. And yes, he should continue making or programming 3rd party models cause I'd like to fly late RAF types like the Tempest V and Spitfire XIV.

nakamura_kenji
01-28-2005, 02:07 AM
I like flying ki-43lb and ki-61hei(challenge I like ^_^) if flying over land ki-84 non skillful persons plane not much fun to fly v_v especially lc model.

favorite carrier aircraft A6M5 this plane me and friend fly all time find it best model for armament and manoerability, later models stall easier not as good.

WOLFMondo
01-28-2005, 02:43 AM
The Ki84 isn't a non skillful persons plane just some people who do fly it are not that skilled, same with any plane bar a few.

The fact remains its the best Japanese fighter and fight someone who can fly it well its an excellent plane on par with any US, British, German or USSR plane.

Badsight.
01-28-2005, 02:50 AM
lots of elietisim in this thread . . . .

as if not flying a Spitfire or Ki-84 makes you a more important user of the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

people like speed

people like cannons

people like to get kills in one pass

deal with it

i.e. . . . . dont be so whiney , its a Aircombat simulator , in other words you are going to be shot down

now , where my 262 . . .

Yimmy
01-28-2005, 08:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CreaseKeeper:

Yimmy, notice that when I have my server going there is a bit more variety due to no F4U-1C or KI-84c, cuts down on the dweebery, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-S- <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah I agree with you - your server is the best I have found to date, mabe after Osiris, but his is always empty.
In my Tommahawk I was managing to get a good few kills, which makes a change!
You added any tanks or anything?

kalaluth
01-28-2005, 08:38 AM
I'm preparing for the future...

Like so many poor lone-some French boys, I'm preparing the future. BoB. And if possible BoFrance. So to prepare my flying on MS406, H-75 and so-on, I'm flying on P11c, Fiat G-50, I-153 and so-on.

Please do not forget poor Frogs in development! Please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

Philip

dazza9806482
01-28-2005, 09:09 AM
I am a total plane **** i fly everything

I will always join the side dependant on the team numbers. Nothing annoys me more when people join servers and make the numbers staggeringly unbalanced because they wont try different planes.

Badsight has a good point. This misplaced elitisim that you masochisticaly fly the worst plane to gain some kudos is strange. It is a game and a very realistic game, but fly for fun. Fair enough those guys that actually can do well in a substandard plane but dont get at those that cant and need to fly a LA to do well and enjoy things.

That said i love all the planes. After a good month or too of flying P51's and FW's i jumped into a LA5. It was a great change and thats the beauty of the game. The sheer vast variety

Iron-Works
01-28-2005, 09:23 AM
I fly "cr@p" so when I'm shot down I can say "If you werent flying that UBER and me flying this cr@p I would smoke your @rse". It seems to work. Even a lousy pilot(ME http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) can claim ACE status as he is constantly shot down in flames.

murewa
01-28-2005, 09:27 AM
zero or 109G series, G-2 and G-10/14 are my favourites and the seafire is a great british plane.
LAGG 66 is my fav russian plane, the la7 and late yaks just dont make enough challenge, too easy to dominate in a yak-3 or la7(3XB20)
ki43 is underestimated too, its a nice plane to use in a TnB fight

Yimmy
01-28-2005, 09:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Iron-Works:
I fly "cr@p" so when I'm shot down I can say "If you werent flying that UBER and me flying this cr@p I would smoke your @rse". It seems to work. Even a lousy pilot(ME http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) can claim ACE status as he is constantly shot down in flames. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I really am not trying to say people do that, to get a sense of elitism or some-sort through flying the -worst- plane.

It simply ocurs to me that many will have bought the game because they have an interest in the Pacific theater of WWII - and so I would have imagined to see people flying F4's and P40's against Zeroes and Ki43's.... while instead I see people playing "n00bish", Ki84's, not for some variety, but **** nearly non-stop in a lot of the UBI furball servers. Takes the fun out of it if you ask me. Myself, I get great satisfication when I shoot down a Zero in a Tommahawk, Hell, I get some satisfication out of being shot down by a Zero etc... but when three Ki84C's start booming and zooming me repeatedly it gets tedious. In my ideal sim world, there would be no late late war fighters, but hey.

dazza9806482
01-28-2005, 09:45 AM
I hear what your saying.

Fly greatergreen or something. Historical servers are great and you can enjoy flying a plane in the context which it flew.

saying that, there are still scenarios where the 'Uber' Bf 109e will be against the early hurri. oh the horror!

CreaseKeeper
01-28-2005, 09:48 AM
one reason why I don't add them to my plane set, yimmy.

I'm also thinking about taking a page out of my old warbirds days and starting a rolling plane set. Each day a different year. Like Mon is 1940, only 1940 planes.. tues 1941 both 40 and 41's,etc etc.

Yimmy, yes, i've added a few things to shoot at, will be included in the briefing window, but you'll have to look for them, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-S-

dazza9806482
01-28-2005, 09:56 AM
Yeah i really like early war years dogfight servers, with some decent objectives. All seems a bit less serious to me. Dont know why!

Whats your server called Creasekeeper?

NorrisMcWhirter
01-28-2005, 09:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Badsight.:
lots of elietisim in this thread . . . .

as if not flying a Spitfire or Ki-84 makes you a more important user of the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

people like speed

people like cannons

people like to get kills in one pass

deal with it

i.e. . . . . dont be so whiney , its a _Aircombat_ simulator , in other words you are going to be shot down

now , where my 262 . . . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi,

A very good and important point you make - the Ki-84 is singled out as though it's some kind of invincible uber plane while not a lot was said about the P-63 with it's dodgy DM and ghost wings. While the Ki84 had some doubtful qualities at one certain patch level, it's not the case now.

I sometimes think some people would prefer everyone to fly around in 1941 Zeros on 1944 servers so they are easier to shoot down.

Having said that, it's quite simple - if you don't want UFOs, avoid late war servers.


Cheers,
Norris

CreaseKeeper
01-28-2005, 10:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dazza9806482:
Whats your server called Creasekeeper? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I host on UBI for a few hours a day, called the zoo squad, i'm working on setting up a dedicated server, but have to get more memory for it, and then test it.

I am pretty picky about things so prefer hosting, cockpit only, reduced icons, no map icons, etc etc. I'm not much into the arcade aspects of the game like some.

-S-

LBR_Barkhorn
01-28-2005, 10:17 AM
I fly the BF110, the FW-190A (6, 8 and 9) and the Dora-9 in dogfight servers. In Bellum War, any german fighter they give me.

UKPsycho
01-28-2005, 11:03 AM
I like servers that have a 'realistic' range of fighters, ie allied 1940 v axis 1940 - that sort of thing. I do however appreciate that flying my 1941 model aircraft I may encounter a 1943/4 model opponent, that sounds realistic to me (Im not being sarcastic!) as Im sure it happened in the war. My favourite aircraft to fly however must be the J8 (Gladiator) - LOVE IT!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Diablo310th
01-28-2005, 11:23 AM
P-47D27 95% of the time. A20 the rest. The A20 is when I want to ground pound or night fight.

Atomic_Marten
01-28-2005, 11:30 AM
Out of these options I have voted Spit. In non-historical pit off servers I almost always fly Spit and Bf109G14/K4.

Indianer.
01-28-2005, 11:47 AM
P40 all the way. If i'm flying axis then A6.