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blazer-glory
08-29-2005, 02:15 PM
What is the purpose of the rudder and how can it be used to aid you?

When in combat,when should I use cannon and when should I use MG? Or should I say, why are planes supplied with both?

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blazer-glory
08-29-2005, 02:15 PM
What is the purpose of the rudder and how can it be used to aid you?

When in combat,when should I use cannon and when should I use MG? Or should I say, why are planes supplied with both?

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SnapdLikeAMutha
08-29-2005, 02:28 PM
The rudder is used to control yaw. Simple as that! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (of course it's nowhere near that simple once you get into it)

To maintain absolute level flight, or during takeoff, for example, you will need to apply a certain amount of rudder to counteract the torque effect of the propellor and keep your plane in a straight line. It can also be useful for getting your sights on a target, and is absolutely *vital* for many air combat manouvres.

Personally I use machine guns to scare a bogey off a teammate's tail, or just to spray him if I'm not so sure of hitting (many lighter aircraft such as early-war Japanese birds are very vulnerable to even light MG fire) since your MG rounds usually hold out longer than cannon ammo (a notable exception being, I believe, the Yak-9). Eg if I'm going for a full deflection shot (ie the enemies flight path is almost perpendicular to my own) I would use MG rather than cannon because in this situation I would be much less certain of hitting than if i was dead on his tail, and I would rather waste MG than cannon ammmo.

A thing to remember is that MG shots rely on kinetic energy so their effect diminshes considerably with range. Cannon rounds derive a good deal of their potency from chemical energy (explosive) so are more effective at long range and can often structurally dismember an opponent with just a few good hits.

F19_Ob
08-29-2005, 02:43 PM
The rudder also can be used for evasive moves and quicker rolls in planes with poor rollrate.

The most common use of the rudder for evasives u can se when chasing an AI pilot. he flies level and adds rudder and climbs or dives slightly.
It doesn't seem like much but at a certain distance it causes the shooter to miss.

To make a fast snapping roll in a very slowrolling plane u roll and pull ,while at the same time kicking hard rudder in the direction u roll. The maneuver takes only a second and u have flipped onto your back.
A slowrolling planes movements are very predictable and in high speed they usually only can push or pull on the stick and some planes even cant push forward very well.
Trying to roll and turn away from a better roller will give the chaser an easy shot, and in this situation a snaproll can save ones butt.
It requires some practise to do it well though and it's easy to overdo it.
P-38 pilots had a name for this maneuver but I cant remember it.

Can be used in any plane ofcourse. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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There are many reasons to fire. Like snappy above I often use tracers to alert friendlies that are chased without knowing it and often to force an enemy to react with evasions on long distances, allowing me to come closer and/or improving my situation.

When to shoot with mgs or cannons depend a bit on the situation and plane. I usually fire both at once since a cannon hit is better than a mg hit.
In planes like bf109's I usually go home when cannon is empty. In a p38 the mg's are grouped in the nose and an mg hit may therfore do some damage.
On very long ranges I may fire with mg's only, if the enemy is aware of me.
If he doesn't know I open up with all guns if the enemy is about to turn and look behind him.

When I see a friendly being chased I shoot immediatly at any range, and if I have to I'll empty my guns on him.
When someone need help one must act fast and not linger behind and wait for a better opportunity. This way I often save mates, even if I dont succed in killing the enemy.
wich in my book is better than kill an enemy on the expense of a m8.

blazer-glory
08-29-2005, 02:50 PM
PHEW! Ive got soo much to learn. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

SnapdLikeAMutha
08-29-2005, 02:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blazer-glory:
PHEW! Ive got soo much to learn. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't sweat it. The best way to learn is to get stick time in. Play the game, it all becomes instinctive! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Taylortony
08-29-2005, 03:11 PM
One famous WW2 fighter pilots said he always flew with a bit of rudder trim on so the aircraft was perpetually yawing, I.E the nose was not pointing in the direction he was flying, this he said made it hard for Germans to get on his six as they were trying to follow in a direction of the nose of the plane which was not actually the direction it was going so lost them precious seconds getting on his six..

fighter_966
09-15-2005, 07:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blazer-glory:
What is the purpose of the rudder and how can it be used to aid you?

When in combat,when should I use cannon and when should I use MG? Or should I say, why are planes supplied with both?

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

First you should get as close as possible to enemy plane and then use them both .Shoot short
burst and dont waste your ammo.I learned to fly
this way; in quick mission builder, enemys were always veterans and at lest 4 strong I flew with two or one bot, planes were yaks and bf109
(any model). Then I didnt mind about flying so much but I tried to shoot enemyplanes down. Flying came naturally with that .I have been
playing for 5 years and also played against my
buddies. We have nine computers connected and some of them also fly online. Sometimes our matches consist one agaist 8 .Good practice!

trumper
09-15-2005, 09:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
One famous WW2 fighter pilots said he always flew with a bit of rudder trim on so the aircraft was perpetually yawing, I.E the nose was not pointing in the direction he was flying, this he said made it hard for Germans to get on his six as they were trying to follow in a direction of the nose of the plane which was not actually the direction it was going so lost them precious seconds getting on his six.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe it was Bob Doe said that on the Spitfire Ace programme shown a while ago in the UK.