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Poodle_of_Doom
07-29-2011, 10:23 PM
I think I have proof that Lucy is a templar...

In the introduction of AC2, Desmond talks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1DnCNdhPPE)
as if he's somewhat unsure that Lucy is on his side, saying "I think she's on my side."

Also, while Desmond talks to Lucy outside the Villa in ACb, she comments that nearly a decade of her life has been spent searching for the Pieces of Eden. Also in Assassin's Creed II, Rebecca says that it has been 7 years since they last met. This would mean that Lucy spent her mid-teens (16-17 onward) searching for the Pieces of Eden. (Actually physically searching for them, though she makes it seem she had been locked up in Abstergo for ten years.)

masterfenix2009
07-29-2011, 10:26 PM
That is not proof that is speculation based off one sentence.

Chamboozer
07-29-2011, 10:30 PM
She could have been exaggerating about her time spent searching for the PoE in order to impress Desmond.

Poodle_of_Doom
07-29-2011, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Chamboozer:
She could have been exaggerating about her time spent searching for the PoE in order to impress Desmond.

Why would Desmond be impressed by ten years of captivity?

And it's more than one sentence, there's the whole thing about misrepresenting the truth a bit.

xsatanicjokerx
07-29-2011, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
I think I have proof that Lucy is a templar...

In the introduction of AC2, Desmond talks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1DnCNdhPPE)
as if he's somewhat unsure that Lucy is on his side, saying "I think she's on my side."

Also, while Desmond talks to Lucy outside the Villa in ACb, she comments that nearly a decade of her life has been spent searching for the Pieces of Eden. Also in Assassin's Creed II, Rebecca says that it has been 7 years since they last met. This would mean that Lucy spent her mid-teens (16-17 onward) searching for the Pieces of Eden. (Actually physically searching for them, though she makes it seem she had been locked up in Abstergo for ten years.)

She has spent nearly a decade searching for the pieces of Eden within the memories of the subjects 1-17.
Also the proof that she is not a templar over weighs the proof for it. For example
-she erases the footage of Desmond sneaking around at night.
-she tells Desmond information about other subjects
-she HELPS HIM ESCAPE
-she doesn’t have the code for the door Desmond uses eagle vision for
-she knows where other assassin's are
-she has contact with assassin leaders
-she steals the Abstergo memory core
-she attacks Abstergo employees

Just to list a few.

Chamboozer
07-29-2011, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chamboozer:
She could have been exaggerating about her time spent searching for the PoE in order to impress Desmond.

Why would Desmond be impressed by ten years of captivity?

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because it shows that she has crucial experience and understanding which Desmond lacks.

I'm not saying I know the truth, just that you claimed that you had proof. 'Proof' implies that no other alternatives are possible, I presented one.

protesthishero
07-29-2011, 11:10 PM
I don't think Lucy is a Templar either but that conversation Desmond has with her outside the Villa is VERY suspicious. "What happened to the Lucy I know?", anyone? And wtf was she doing there anyway?

LH 517704 46137
07-29-2011, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
I think I have proof that Lucy is a templar...

In the introduction of AC2, Desmond talks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1DnCNdhPPE)
as if he's somewhat unsure that Lucy is on his side, saying "I think she's on my side."

Also, while Desmond talks to Lucy outside the Villa in ACb, she comments that nearly a decade of her life has been spent searching for the Pieces of Eden. Also in Assassin's Creed II, Rebecca says that it has been 7 years since they last met. This would mean that Lucy spent her mid-teens (16-17 onward) searching for the Pieces of Eden. (Actually physically searching for them, though she makes it seem she had been locked up in Abstergo for ten years.)


Just because she was searching for PoE's doesn't mean she was searching them for the Templars; Lucy, Rebecca, Shaun and Desmond are Assassins and they are currently looking for one. And Lucy has been undercover in Abstergo for a few years (not sure how many) so that would be why she hasn't seen Rebecca for so long. Also she may not have been physically searching for them, she could mean that she was just looking for them through the memories of the past subjects in the animus.

Saracenar
07-29-2011, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by xsatanicjokerx:
She has spent nearly a decade searching for the pieces of Eden within the memories of the subjects 1-17.
Also the proof that she is not a templar over weighs the proof for it. For example
-she erases the footage of Desmond sneaking around at night.
-she tells Desmond information about other subjects
-she HELPS HIM ESCAPE
-she doesn’t have the code for the door Desmond uses eagle vision for
-she knows where other assassin's are
-she has contact with assassin leaders
-she steals the Abstergo memory core
-she attacks Abstergo employees

Just to list a few.

Most of the things you list she could easily have faked or done as part of a very convincing undercover role. Of course, I'm not suggesting I know anything, or that I think she is a Templar - in fact, I'm pretty sure she isn't, but your 'proof' isn't really that solid.

Chamboozer
07-30-2011, 12:05 AM
Well, he misused the word proof. I think meant to say evidence.

Animuses
07-30-2011, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by protesthishero:
I don't think Lucy is a Templar either but that conversation Desmond has with her outside the Villa is VERY suspicious. "What happened to the Lucy I know?", anyone? And wtf was she doing there anyway?

She could've possibly wanted a break so she went outside to admire the moonlight.

Sparty2020
07-30-2011, 03:14 AM
Desmond disappeared after every memory sequence he could in my game. He spent all night just roaming the streets of Monterrigioni. I think he's a Templar. As a matter of fact Shaun also spends alot of time in Monterrigioni talking with the locals and "buying groceries" but we never see that. He must also be a Templar. Now that only leaves Rebecca... strange how she's not included in any of the activities... maybe she has a giant secret, I mean even Shaun called her a Templar.

That proves it: Everyone in the world who does something off-camera is a Templar!

Sorry, but sometimes these threads of "Lucy is a Templar because..." get really silly sometimes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

xCr0wnedNorris
07-30-2011, 04:14 AM
Perhaps this thread should be renamed "I've rediscovered an event that supports the theory that Lucy could possibly be a Templar" but that's too long, isn't it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

CRUDFACE
07-30-2011, 06:52 AM
Him saying "I think" is not allot to go on really...


Originally posted by xsatanicjokerx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
I think I have proof that Lucy is a templar...

In the introduction of AC2, Desmond talks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1DnCNdhPPE)
as if he's somewhat unsure that Lucy is on his side, saying "I think she's on my side."

Also, while Desmond talks to Lucy outside the Villa in ACb, she comments that nearly a decade of her life has been spent searching for the Pieces of Eden. Also in Assassin's Creed II, Rebecca says that it has been 7 years since they last met. This would mean that Lucy spent her mid-teens (16-17 onward) searching for the Pieces of Eden. (Actually physically searching for them, though she makes it seem she had been locked up in Abstergo for ten years.)

She has spent nearly a decade searching for the pieces of Eden within the memories of the subjects 1-17.
Also the proof that she is not a templar over weighs the proof for it. For example
-she erases the footage of Desmond sneaking around at night.
-she tells Desmond information about other subjects
-she HELPS HIM ESCAPE
-she doesn’t have the code for the door Desmond uses eagle vision for
-she knows where other assassin's are
-she has contact with assassin leaders
-she steals the Abstergo memory core
-she attacks Abstergo employees

Just to list a few. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, it's impossible for Lucy to have been there since Subject 1 seeing as Daniel Cross who is older than her was Subject 4. the earliest subject we have of her working together with is 15, but for some reason we don't hear allot about her working together with 16...strange.

She could have made most of that up and kept it so that only the higher ups knew of her future defection. We also know that Abstergo can brainwash people and have pieces of eden with unknown properties. Abstergo knows where other assassins are, just not Lucy's team.

LightRey
07-30-2011, 08:09 AM
It really doesn't matter. It's all speculation. Lucy is most likely an agent for the Assassins and that's it. There's no evidence that actually directly suggests she might be a Templar agent. Any evidence to that is at best circumstantial.

k20ml
07-30-2011, 10:31 AM
If the TWCB were on the side of the assassins in order to prevent or protect many from the next solar flare, then I deduct that Lucy is indeed a Templar. Nobody knew what would Lucy do with the Apple of Eden if it was found. This raises a lot of questions in my mind. Yes Lucy helped Desmond escape and all that is mentioned above.

But if I were a Templar I would use a double to find the PoE so easily and almost without encounter. Probably the Templars already knew about Desmond because of the PoE they found in Denver. They devised this entire operation to easily take the PoE without collateral damage.

LightRey
07-30-2011, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by k20ml:
If the TWCB were on the side of the assassins in order to prevent or protect many from the next solar flare, then I deduct that Lucy is indeed a Templar. Nobody knew what would Lucy do with the Apple of Eden if it was found. This raises a lot of questions in my mind. Yes Lucy helped Desmond escape and all that is mentioned above.

But if I were a Templar I would use a double to find the PoE so easily and almost without encounter. Probably the Templars already knew about Desmond because of the PoE they found in Denver. They devised this entire operation to easily take the PoE without collateral damage.
I disagree. Lucy could've been killed for any number of reasons. Besides, if she were a templar, why not just tell Desmond? Why force him with the apple and only giving him a cryptic reason? There's more to it than that I think.

Animuses
07-30-2011, 01:26 PM
Lucy is an Assassin, accept it. There is no proof of her being a Templar.

Calvarok
07-30-2011, 03:37 PM
Desmond said "I think", because all he'd seen up to that point was Lucy glowing blue and hiding a finger.

LightRey
07-30-2011, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Calvarok:
Desmond said "I think", because all he'd seen up to that point was Lucy glowing blue and hiding a finger.
this.

blazefp
07-30-2011, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Calvarok:
Desmond said "I think", because all he'd seen up to that point was Lucy glowing blue and hiding a finger.

hey I was going to say that, thief http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Serrachio
07-30-2011, 04:44 PM
OMFG!!! LUCY'S NOT A TEMPLAR BUT HER MISSING FINGER IS!

ABSTERGO MUST HAVE INSTALLED IT ON HER WHILE SHE WAS SLEEPING AND IT'S SECRETLY SENDING INFORMATION TO THE TEMPLARS! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


(I'm kidding by the way.)

LightRey
07-30-2011, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Serrachio:
OMFG!!! LUCY'S NOT A TEMPLAR BUT HER MISSING FINGER IS!

ABSTERGO MUST HAVE INSTALLED IT ON HER WHILE SHE WAS SLEEPING AND IT'S SECRETLY SENDING INFORMATION TO THE TEMPLARS! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


(I'm kidding by the way.)
Yes! and you're actually playing Desmond's son through the animus!
I'm so glad they gave that theory a proverbial kick in the face with the Da Vinci Disappearance.

Poodle_of_Doom
07-30-2011, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
I disagree. Lucy could've been killed for any number of reasons. Besides, if she were a templar, why not just tell Desmond? Why force him with the apple and only giving him a cryptic reason? There's more to it than that I think.

Two words.

1. Story
2. Line

LightRey
07-30-2011, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
I disagree. Lucy could've been killed for any number of reasons. Besides, if she were a templar, why not just tell Desmond? Why force him with the apple and only giving him a cryptic reason? There's more to it than that I think.

Two words.

1. Story
2. Line </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Storyline is one word.

Poodle_of_Doom
07-30-2011, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
I disagree. Lucy could've been killed for any number of reasons. Besides, if she were a templar, why not just tell Desmond? Why force him with the apple and only giving him a cryptic reason? There's more to it than that I think.

Two words.

1. Story
2. Line </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Storyline is one word. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wait, what? Then your point was more feutile than I gave it credit for....

It was a dur dur dur moment...

Jack-Reacher
07-30-2011, 09:11 PM
Says the guy who doesnt know what proof is

LightRey
07-30-2011, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Jack-Reacher:
Says the guy who doesnt know what proof is
lol, nice one.

@Poodle_of_Doom:
the storyline would be crappy if they simply killed off Lucy because she was a Templar. Nowhere in the entire AC storyline have they ever done a plot-twist that's that lame. They wouldn't start now.
With AC there's always more to it.

TrueLegend1889
07-31-2011, 05:49 AM
Lucy isn't a templar. Although she has been given freedom to explore while under capture this does not prove she is on the templar's side! Instead she helps desmond escape from the templar's and train him to become an assassin. Why would she help desmond if she was a templar?! It only makes sense that she is an assassin and finally escapes from the templar facility, luckly with desmond still alive. She aides the assassins by help train one ofn the most effective and efficient assassins there is to date.

She isn't an templar! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
She even hides one of her fingers to symbolise the assassins!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

Poodle_of_Doom
07-31-2011, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by TrueLegend1889:
Lucy isn't a templar. Although she has been given freedom to explore while under capture this does not prove she is on the templar's side! Instead she helps desmond escape from the templar's and train him to become an assassin. Why would she help desmond if she was a templar?! It only makes sense that she is an assassin and finally escapes from the templar facility, luckly with desmond still alive. She aides the assassins by help train one ofn the most effective and efficient assassins there is to date.

She isn't an templar! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
She even hides one of her fingers to symbolise the assassins!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

To infilitrate the Assassin order¿ Or maybe, if they're using the Animus to train new recruits, and Desmond will be the test subject,... Maybe she wants to make sure it doesn't go well, so they aren't making super soldiers.

AntiChrist7
07-31-2011, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TrueLegend1889:
Lucy isn't a templar. Although she has been given freedom to explore while under capture this does not prove she is on the templar's side! Instead she helps desmond escape from the templar's and train him to become an assassin. Why would she help desmond if she was a templar?! It only makes sense that she is an assassin and finally escapes from the templar facility, luckly with desmond still alive. She aides the assassins by help train one ofn the most effective and efficient assassins there is to date.

She isn't an templar! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
She even hides one of her fingers to symbolise the assassins!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

To infilitrate the Assassin order¿ Or maybe, if they're using the Animus to train new recruits, and Desmond will be the test subject,... Maybe she wants to make sure it doesn't go well, so they aren't making super soldiers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

then why do it at the Assassins order? if you wanna use desmond as tstdummy for future recruits, do it at the abstergo lab, you will have much more control over him

Poodle_of_Doom
07-31-2011, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by AntiChrist7:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TrueLegend1889:
Lucy isn't a templar. Although she has been given freedom to explore while under capture this does not prove she is on the templar's side! Instead she helps desmond escape from the templar's and train him to become an assassin. Why would she help desmond if she was a templar?! It only makes sense that she is an assassin and finally escapes from the templar facility, luckly with desmond still alive. She aides the assassins by help train one ofn the most effective and efficient assassins there is to date.

She isn't an templar! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
She even hides one of her fingers to symbolise the assassins!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

To infilitrate the Assassin order¿ Or maybe, if they're using the Animus to train new recruits, and Desmond will be the test subject,... Maybe she wants to make sure it doesn't go well, so they aren't making super soldiers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

then why do it at the Assassins order? if you wanna use desmond as tstdummy for future recruits, do it at the abstergo lab, you will have much more control over him </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why would the assassins do it at abstergo?

StarScream391
07-31-2011, 01:06 PM
I've been wanting to say this for a while, but your threads are getting annoying http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Poodle_of_Doom
07-31-2011, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by StarScream391:
I've been wanting to say this for a while, but your threads are getting annoying http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

And most of the posts on from others on this forum are repetitive. Yet here we both are.

Animuses
07-31-2011, 02:25 PM
You gotta see where he's coming from. You based a thread off of something was supposed to be proof but after reading your post, it ended to be nothing but speculation. Your so-called proof was Desmond saying, "I think she is on my side." Which means Desmond doesn't know because she gave him a hint and the the hint was Lucy folding her left ring finger.

AntiChrist7
07-31-2011, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AntiChrist7:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TrueLegend1889:
Lucy isn't a templar. Although she has been given freedom to explore while under capture this does not prove she is on the templar's side! Instead she helps desmond escape from the templar's and train him to become an assassin. Why would she help desmond if she was a templar?! It only makes sense that she is an assassin and finally escapes from the templar facility, luckly with desmond still alive. She aides the assassins by help train one ofn the most effective and efficient assassins there is to date.

She isn't an templar! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
She even hides one of her fingers to symbolise the assassins!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

To infilitrate the Assassin order¿ Or maybe, if they're using the Animus to train new recruits, and Desmond will be the test subject,... Maybe she wants to make sure it doesn't go well, so they aren't making super soldiers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

then why do it at the Assassins order? if you wanna use desmond as tstdummy for future recruits, do it at the abstergo lab, you will have much more control over him </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why would the assassins do it at abstergo? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i thought you ment the templars with "they"

Poodle_of_Doom
07-31-2011, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Animuses:
You gotta see where he's coming from. You based a thread off of something was supposed to be proof but after reading your post, it ended to be nothing but speculation. Your so-called proof was Desmond saying, "I think she is on my side." Which means Desmond doesn't know because she gave him a hint and the the hint was Lucy folding her left ring finger.

Okay, so I mispoke. Still the point of the matter is, if you don't like the content of a topic here, or a particular users posts, don't read them. It's not like anyone put twisted your arm and said "Read this **** now, or else!" You are here on your own free will. If you dislike something I've posted, or said,... go someplace else. No ones forcing you to read it.


Originally posted by AntiChrist7:
i thought you ment the templars with "they"

Nope, I meant the Assassins.

LightRey
07-31-2011, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Animuses:
You gotta see where he's coming from. You based a thread off of something was supposed to be proof but after reading your post, it ended to be nothing but speculation. Your so-called proof was Desmond saying, "I think she is on my side." Which means Desmond doesn't know because she gave him a hint and the the hint was Lucy folding her left ring finger.

Okay, so I mispoke. Still the point of the matter is, if you don't like the content of a topic here, or a particular users posts, don't read them. It's not like anyone put twisted your arm and said "Read this **** now, or else!" You are here on your own free will. If you dislike something I've posted, or said,... go someplace else. No ones forcing you to read it.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think it's more that you keep coming up with stuff that at first glance look interesting, but after looking more closely it's mostly disappointing.

Chamboozer
07-31-2011, 04:58 PM
LightRey speaks the truth.

Poodle_of_Doom
07-31-2011, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Poodle_of_Doom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Animuses:
You gotta see where he's coming from. You based a thread off of something was supposed to be proof but after reading your post, it ended to be nothing but speculation. Your so-called proof was Desmond saying, "I think she is on my side." Which means Desmond doesn't know because she gave him a hint and the the hint was Lucy folding her left ring finger.

Okay, so I mispoke. Still the point of the matter is, if you don't like the content of a topic here, or a particular users posts, don't read them. It's not like anyone put twisted your arm and said "Read this **** now, or else!" You are here on your own free will. If you dislike something I've posted, or said,... go someplace else. No ones forcing you to read it.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think it's more that you keep coming up with stuff that at first glance look interesting, but after looking more closely it's mostly disappointing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry,... I can't work magic with everyone.

Mikatsuki95
08-01-2011, 09:49 AM
I posted this in a different topic but I'll also leave it here since it seems more relevant. I'll be short.

One: unless eagle vision is somehow not working or someone from Ubisoft confirms this, we have no proof she's a templar. I mean why? Cuz Juno made us stab her? No. Who's to say Juno isn't the bad person here? Her people 'did' create humans for the sole purpose of making them slaves. They weren't innocent victims when we "betrayed" them. And all she did was speak negatively of humans in the game. Why assume she's the good person in all this?

SWJS
08-01-2011, 12:44 PM
I'll throw in my two cents here.

Since when has Assassin's Creed EVER been THAT predictable? Honestly look me in the eyes and honestly tell me you saw the endings for AC2 and ACB coming. Yeah, that's what I thought.

I remember one of my friends suggesting and idea that the "white van" abducted Lucy while away from the Villa and left some type of android or clone in her place. As preposterous as it sounds it's far more plausible than Lucy simply being branded with a big Templar sign on her forehead.

The story for AC is too well thought out and too well written to just simply jump the shark like that.

LightRey
08-01-2011, 02:49 PM
EzioTheAssassin and Mikatsuki95 are both so right.

Subject_4
08-01-2011, 10:54 PM
Juno is aware of the future, recall Her talking to Desmond through Ezio. Juno knows that Lucy is attracted to Desmond, but Desmond must conceive a child with someone else, a specific person. (The sun.. the son). The actions at the end of Brotherhood are to make sure this happens.

Subject 4

ILIKESOUP94
08-01-2011, 10:57 PM
Predicting the AC series is like answering this question (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREnvJRkif0). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Mikatsuki95
08-01-2011, 11:15 PM
The "your son part" 16 said, lets not make any conclusions yet. Don't forget that 16 could barely finish any sentences in that message. He was hardly direct in anything he said. Even the part about Eve and eden was broken up so we don't know the entirety of his message yet. I mean if I never played the game and saw that I would've thought it was some kind of teaser given how broken up and indirect it was. Interesting as hell? Definitely. Enlightening? not too much. But that's just me personally

Anyways I'm just saying we shouldn't take assumptions and call them the facts

LightRey
08-02-2011, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by Subject_4:
Juno is aware of the future, recall Her talking to Desmond through Ezio. Juno knows that Lucy is attracted to Desmond, but Desmond must conceive a child with someone else, a specific person. (The sun.. the son). The actions at the end of Brotherhood are to make sure this happens.

Subject 4
Juno never spoke through Ezio to Desmond. I think you're talking about Minerva.


The "your son part" 16 said, lets not make any conclusions yet. Don't forget that 16 could barely finish any sentences in that message. He was hardly direct in anything he said. Even the part about Eve and eden was broken up so we don't know the entirety of his message yet. I mean if I never played the game and saw that I would've thought it was some kind of teaser given how broken up and indirect it was. Interesting as hell? Definitely. Enlightening? not too much. But that's just me personally

Anyways I'm just saying we shouldn't take assumptions and call them the facts
Exactly. It could mean anything at this point. Not to mention that 16 is probably kinda crazy inside that virtual head of his.