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SkyMonkey2
09-12-2004, 01:58 AM
So I've been off the horse for a while, due to a move. Today I finally had the time to set up my HOTAS again on my newish (although borrowed) PC and rewire my rudder pedals. And reinstall and tweak FB/Newview/etc etc. Took a while.

But anyway, everything was eventually working fine, so I decide to fly a few offline missions to see if I can't recover my gunnery skills a bit. I'm looking thru the single missions, and find the P-51B mission, Train Sweep. Bad weather sweep against German trains.

Get in the pit, take off, fly the waypoints. Rough weather. About 2/3s to were I think things might get hot, based on the location of a German base, number 4 explodes behind me with no warning. Oh well, such is war, continue on. Find a couple trains in a city, bomb the AAA, strafe a few times, then time to move on down the road. Myself and the two others atill in the flight are doing fine.

On the way out of town, I see another train steaming down the tracks. Ah HA I think, thought the rain would cover you did ya? I'm about 70 degrees to the tracks, put him in the gunsight, spray the 50s and kick the rudder. Looking good and firey. Pull up to avoid becoming part of twisted mass of metal that used to be a train....BOOM. Secondary explosion while I'm directly over him. Engine dead immediatly. I've got some speed, so I pop up to see if I can't find a safe place to belly in. Feild next to that farm house looks good, easy now, full flaps and I'm down. Black smoke is getting thicker, so I decide that maybe I ought to brave the bad weather and leave the pit before it gets TOO warm for comfort. Hmm, look at that, 8 inchs of my right wing gone. Germans rush out of the farmhouse near by, capturing me.

Oh well, was a fun mission while it lasted, 20 minutes or so.

But I want to see what happened to number 4 on the way to the target, and what exactly caused my demise other than my rather blatant disregard for minimum strafing altitudes.

Unfortuntaly, the track shows NOTHING of the kind. Number 4 lives to the target, number 2 gets a AA burst to the engine, and in an attempt to belly in ends up in the front room of some guys ranch (funny what that low fog will hide eh?). "Target Destroyed!" he tells me, just before his plane explodes. Idiot. Optimist. Whatever.

And my beautiful strafing runs on trains in the downtown turn out to be strafing some run down tenenments followed by my ripping a wing off on a roof and crashing into the mayor's home.

Okay, so it was a long and poorly written account, but seriously what gives? I don't think I've ever had a track be THAT wrong before. Sometimes little details will be off, but not that badly. Is this something new with the 2.04 patch? Or is it a known issue that I just have never run into before?

Sort of amusing, but rather annoying when it comes down to it don't you think?

-SM

SkyMonkey2
09-12-2004, 01:58 AM
So I've been off the horse for a while, due to a move. Today I finally had the time to set up my HOTAS again on my newish (although borrowed) PC and rewire my rudder pedals. And reinstall and tweak FB/Newview/etc etc. Took a while.

But anyway, everything was eventually working fine, so I decide to fly a few offline missions to see if I can't recover my gunnery skills a bit. I'm looking thru the single missions, and find the P-51B mission, Train Sweep. Bad weather sweep against German trains.

Get in the pit, take off, fly the waypoints. Rough weather. About 2/3s to were I think things might get hot, based on the location of a German base, number 4 explodes behind me with no warning. Oh well, such is war, continue on. Find a couple trains in a city, bomb the AAA, strafe a few times, then time to move on down the road. Myself and the two others atill in the flight are doing fine.

On the way out of town, I see another train steaming down the tracks. Ah HA I think, thought the rain would cover you did ya? I'm about 70 degrees to the tracks, put him in the gunsight, spray the 50s and kick the rudder. Looking good and firey. Pull up to avoid becoming part of twisted mass of metal that used to be a train....BOOM. Secondary explosion while I'm directly over him. Engine dead immediatly. I've got some speed, so I pop up to see if I can't find a safe place to belly in. Feild next to that farm house looks good, easy now, full flaps and I'm down. Black smoke is getting thicker, so I decide that maybe I ought to brave the bad weather and leave the pit before it gets TOO warm for comfort. Hmm, look at that, 8 inchs of my right wing gone. Germans rush out of the farmhouse near by, capturing me.

Oh well, was a fun mission while it lasted, 20 minutes or so.

But I want to see what happened to number 4 on the way to the target, and what exactly caused my demise other than my rather blatant disregard for minimum strafing altitudes.

Unfortuntaly, the track shows NOTHING of the kind. Number 4 lives to the target, number 2 gets a AA burst to the engine, and in an attempt to belly in ends up in the front room of some guys ranch (funny what that low fog will hide eh?). "Target Destroyed!" he tells me, just before his plane explodes. Idiot. Optimist. Whatever.

And my beautiful strafing runs on trains in the downtown turn out to be strafing some run down tenenments followed by my ripping a wing off on a roof and crashing into the mayor's home.

Okay, so it was a long and poorly written account, but seriously what gives? I don't think I've ever had a track be THAT wrong before. Sometimes little details will be off, but not that badly. Is this something new with the 2.04 patch? Or is it a known issue that I just have never run into before?

Sort of amusing, but rather annoying when it comes down to it don't you think?

-SM

Tully__
09-12-2004, 02:43 AM
Any use of time compression or the pause button during a mission will do that to the track. Further, PC's that are prone to stutters during gameplay often produce tracks that aren't quite what the mission was.

The earlier in the mission that stutters, time compression or pause occur, the more messed up the rest of the mission will be.

As an alternative, in your control assingments there is a control labelled "Quick Start/Save Track". Assign a key for this control and use it to start recording a so called "Online" track (it works offline too). This records in a different format and is immune to the vaguaries of time compression and pauses. It is also immune to patch updates changing the flight models.

The major downsides are you have to remember to start recording at the beginning of your mission and the recorded files will take up quite a bit more space.

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Fliegeroffizier
09-12-2004, 11:45 AM
I would also point out that one can start and stop Recording(s) as many times as one wants using the "QuickStart/Save" key. Thus, you can wait until you are about to enter combat or begin strafing ground targets, whatever..Hit the Quickstart key, hit it again to stop recording when the strafing is done......then a few minutes later do it again when you see enemy acft approaching, etc...whatever. I keep track of the track numbers(*.ntrk)[you'll get on-screen text naming/numbering each recording sequentially] and jot down a quick note of which ones I want to look at afterwards... then, post mission, one can go directly to the specific recording/track of interest. Thus, you don't have to fly/replay the Entire Mission to get to the part of interest, as is the case if you only use the Post-Mission default option of "Save Track"(*.TRK).

And you'll never get any of the Glitches..the track/recordings WILL be accurate replays of those portions of your mission.

LuftLuver
09-12-2004, 01:34 PM
And please change your name skymonkeyToo.

We already have the uber SkyChimp and he is currently fulfilling all our aerial simian needs. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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XperiAnce_ZA
09-12-2004, 01:39 PM
I use quick record all the time and they DO mess up sometimes. It once dropped my bombs in a TB-3 a WHOLE 3 MINUTES before I actually dropped them (so in the track they were sea bound whilst online they hit the airfield...

Sometime these tracks are wierd like once I had my wing torn off (p-40E) but in the track I just "lost control's" and crashed... wierd...

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SkyMonkey2
09-12-2004, 04:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LuftLuver:
And please change your name skymonkeyToo.

We already have the uber SkyChimp and he is currently fulfilling all our aerial simian needs. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.simiansociety.org/ssaplate.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I used to be just SkyMonkey here a long time ago, but I forgot my password and my email changed, so I couldn't get it back. Thus SkyMonkey2.

GR142_Astro
09-12-2004, 08:16 PM
Just givin' u the business SM2 and an excuse to type "SkyChimp." http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Obviously, be whoooever U please. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

GAU-8
09-13-2004, 01:40 AM
yeah what gives with the tracks? i cant get them to play right anymore either.

i havent used time compression, nor does my comp stutter at anything on FB, YET, im warping more solo offline..THAN I AM ONLINE..and thats 56 k folks..

and ..yes i am using the track start stop record assignment ive always used. SERIOUS glithces and warping.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif