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02-07-2006, 06:58 AM

02-07-2006, 07:03 AM
i was sick a friend came to visit and gave me warez il2 because i like planes but didnt sim. i bought the game for myself, my dad, and my brother. i been here since.

i like fs2004 equally so it gets equal time (but 4x investment and im ok with it!). other sims are crud.

02-07-2006, 07:08 AM
None of the above. I'm playing the sim from the day I saw the demo in my favourite PC magazine. Also played CFS2 previously.

02-07-2006, 07:09 AM
Finest Hour, SWOL, Aces and CFS

Lucky for me from the start - the original il2 demo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif and I still can't fly well!.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

02-07-2006, 07:09 AM
I started with the to me unknown 'warez' version of IL2, and was hooked since. Bought them all and prolly will continue doing so.

I had played some Air warrior and really liked Jane's WWII fighters. But IL2 blew them all away.

han freak solo
02-07-2006, 07:11 AM
I was sim hungry. I was involved with CFS2 when I was cruising the local Best Buy. I saw this cool little IL2 for $19.99. Bought it.

Took it home, but my rig couldn't handle it except in WW mode. It was hard a sh*t to play, but was so beautiful I was entranced forever more.......

02-07-2006, 07:15 AM
Original Il2 but just before FB came out.

Came from CFS 1 and 2 (liked 1 the best).

Before that it went back to Atari ST days with a Lucasarts' Battle of Britain sim (or somesuch, it's a while ago) which started chugging at less than 1 fps as soon as another plane showed up.

And no I can't go back to CFS, nowhere near what we've got here.

02-07-2006, 07:17 AM
Back in SA I played Red Baron, Aces over Europe and Aces of the Pacific ( which is why I still hanker for the Ki27 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif - I remember my first career in it ).

Moved to RBII and EAW, then found IL2 going cheap. Installed it and within days had un-installed EAW. Even bought the Eastern Front addon before FB came along.

Yeah, that hook was set well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

02-07-2006, 07:17 AM
I have always disliked video games. The proof would be in the 70 or so games I bought and never played. Yeah, forget the logic. But one day I saw IL-2 and thought, what an ugly plane. The I read a little more and found I could fly the 109. Then I saw the screenies and said "no way"(in a cool west coast beach accent).

I took it home and installed. It was love at first sight. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

Almost 5 years later, I still enjoy my addiction.


02-07-2006, 07:23 AM
around 98 i startet out in cfs, then it was cfs2 and in the last period of cfs2 i flew IL2 then FB came around and then i made the final change to the IL2 series

02-07-2006, 07:25 AM
Well I was given IL2 Orig. by my friend who dislikes prop planes(looser http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif) in March 2003. I came home, installed it and whoaaaaaaa, I couldn't believe what I see, the rest is history, and the interesting thing is that I saw all other sims after I had seen IL2, after IL2 they all looked and felt crappy to me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

02-07-2006, 07:29 AM
IL2 was my first ever prop sim. I had looked at it previously, but I didn't find it interesting flying a slow russian attack plane. I read about the game in a magazine and saw that the Bf 109 and Fw 190 was flyable also. So I went and bought it.

Been here ever since! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

-HH- Beebop
02-07-2006, 07:32 AM
Downloaded the demo and within 2 days realized that my beloved European Air War and recently purchased CFS2 were no longer up to snuff. It was pretty darn realistic and too darn pretty. And this was with a P600 Coppermine and 256 Mb of PC133 RAM!
Now FB merged is the only game installed on my computer.

02-07-2006, 07:34 AM
I read about the game while it was still being made back when I was a youngen and remember waiting for the demo to be released. Once that multiplayer demo came out...I've been hooked ever since.

TgD Thunderbolt56
02-07-2006, 07:35 AM
I played Aces over Europe then Aces over the Pacific then went through both CFS1 and 2 (CFS2 being my favorite with myriad 1% models) and picked up IL2 shortly after it was initially released.

The rest is history...

02-07-2006, 07:43 AM
I played Dawn Patrol, CFS1 and 2, and started reading PCPilot magazine. On the coverdisk of the first or second magazine I got, there was a demo of an 'exciting new sim' - I installed it and thought "Hey, cool, you can be a gunner!" and shot my tail off Indiana-Jones style. I had fun flying the Il-2 against the tanks of Smolensk, my average favourite activity in this game, or shooting He-111s with the P-39 (my second favourite all-time activity...). I read the previews and reviews saying how Il-2 v1.00 was the best of the best of the best, and went and bought it, and loved it ever since.

02-07-2006, 07:48 AM
Flew all the classics. Got into online flying and squad in April of 1997 with Flying Circus and then Red Baron 2.

02-07-2006, 07:51 AM
It's a long and sorry story....I guess it all started with that old Amiga I aqquired all those years ago. I thought I could handle it, you know? The ocaissional go on 'Knights of the Sky', the odd dabble with 'Their Finest Hour'. Then I found I needed a stronger buzz; before I knew it I had gone through 'Aces of the Pacific' and was doing more and more 'European Air War'. CFS 1 & 2 figured prominantly, of course. My friends tried to help, but I wouldn't listen. Then I started mixing 'Red Baron' with all the other stuff I was doing. The lies started soon after that..."You go out, I'll catch up with you as soon as I've finished this course-work..." Soon it was far too late, only Il-2 or stronger could satisfy my deviant cravings....

02-07-2006, 07:51 AM
Played my first sim when I was about 14 on my Amiga 500: Their Finest Hour, Reach for the skies, Knights of the Sky, A-10 Warthog, Birds of Prey, Flight of the Intruder, Falcon, F/A-18 Interceptor, F-29 etc...I had basically every sim that was released.

When I came to PC's I wasn't interested in jet sims anymore, so I started with Flying Corps and RB2 (best offline campaigns ever with EAW), all the while waiting for a new WWII sim. When EAW arrived it made my day, then Mig Alley and BoB...since I saw the first pics of Il-2 I followed the news on many boards, until the demo came out and I realised I could finally say goodbye to my beloved EAW and BoB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-07-2006, 07:57 AM

My first "flight"was on the MSX http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Spitfire 40 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
Kewl what a graphics and FM http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

AOE, aop , weapons of the luftwaffe, chuck yeager, mig29 hind, geez i think i must had them (still have) them all

First serious was EAW ( still using that in High resolution) Bought CFS1 ,2 (what a waste) and (ahum) Dloaded CFS3 with firepower. Couldnt get me shouting HURRAY on those CFS stuff (puke came first).
Saw a mate playing Il2, i thought Im gonna get me that one , so i bought Il2Fb, dam had to upgrade my rig from P3 600 to P3 1000Mhz and a better vidcard.
Lol Looked like i bought the wrong one, so i purchased IL2 org.
Well then came AEP PF you name it( bought them all)and of course the usual patches (Hurray gratefull for the support, so stop whinin pls)
Build another rig only to play FB/Pf on it.
So now i ended up with a AMD sempron 2400+ with (hahahaha) Leadtek Gf4 440mx for FB(testing) and EAW, and my pride a P4 3.4Ghz with 2 Gig dualchannel and a 9800XT256ddr (asus) for the serious IL2FB moments.
Ow almost forgot, got BOB wov also on this rig, kinda as the offline moments.

So in short i play this type of games for far over 20 years

02-07-2006, 07:58 AM
I was given CFS1 and an old Cyborg 3D gameport joystick a few years ago, so I started on that, I saw FB in a bargain bin about a year and a 1/2 ago and was hooked so I sought out AEP(pain in my butt to be sure but I ended up finding it online) to try to keep up with everyone in Ubi(no comments I played alot of Ghost Recon so I knew the Ubi Lobby system)anyways after awhile the Merged crowd seemed to the majority so initally a friend sent me copies of his PF CD's and that was that I was complete. I will admit I was running warez PF with my other 2 real CDs(tried to justify it to myself in the prices I paid for the first 2 I coulda had all 3 Norwegian software prices are insane e.g "The Bargain Bin "is $40US) but then about 6 months ago I saw PF in the bargain rack and completed my collection legit.

02-07-2006, 08:14 AM
I purchased Pacific Fighters and "learned to fly" on that sim before getting hold of IL-2 Forgotten Battles. After a few months, I added the Ace Expansion Pack. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

But I can't seem to install the FB-AEP-PF version! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

02-07-2006, 08:19 AM
In February of 2002, on the advice of my son, I bought IL2. [I'm an old avid military history nut and wargamer, and when my sons were in high school in early-mid 1990's, we had LucasArts BOB(?), SWOTL, and the Microprose Pacific sim-which was a slide show on that my comp at that time.]

I never played IL2 online (my rig then couldn't handle it anyway), I thought forums were for techno-geeks (if they even had one then), and all I got when I tried the FMB was the "blue screen of death"--I was such a noob! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif So I essentially flew QMB for about 9 months straight, but eventually got tired of the same 3 skins per plane, and then life intervened. Fast forward to whenever FB came out (2003?) which I bought, couldn't get loaded properly, and put it aside (my rig was getting long in the tooth anyway by then).

Then, in August of 2004 I heard about Pacific Fighters coming, and because I knew Oleg would do it up good (Ok, things are missing, but so what--it's tons better than Microprose's slide show http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif), I upgraded (and then did it again last June) and bought the Giold Pack in Sept. 2004, and discovered what lay behind the blue screen of death and joined the forums finally in November 2004.

02-07-2006, 08:24 AM
New York City, Korea, Thailand, 40 Projects...

"Their Finest Hour"
"Aces Over Europe"
"Aces Over the Pacific"
"Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe"
"Red Baron"
"Wing Commander"
"Crimson Skies"
"Wings of Glory".

Worf101 99th Pursuit Squadron, 332nd V.F.G. "Spit Fire"

02-07-2006, 08:27 AM
I started off with CFS1 and was partially through the American campaign of CFS2, when in early 2002 I got a copy of the original IL2. The difference was so great, that after completing the CFS2 American campaign, I switched to IL2 and never even started the CFS2 Japanese campaign.

Because of my obsolete computer, I was only able to fly the original IL2. (On minimal settings at that) But being an eternal optimist, I had bought FB, Aces and Pacific Fighters and had them sitting safely on a shelf.

Then for Christmas of 2005, I bought myself a capable computer and now have everything patched up to 4.02. The new computer also allows me to have a CH rudder pedal, and Pro throttle, and the amazingly immersive Track IR.

Trust me when I tell you that going from the original IL2, to a fully patched version of FB+Aces+PF is a pretty steep learning curve.

02-07-2006, 08:27 AM
I started waaaaaay back with Red Baron the original 16 color version. Been through the Red Baron series, SWOTL, Aces over Europe, Aces Over the Pacific, EAW which was excellent for it's day, CFS 1, 2, and 3 (3 was a dissappointment), B17-2... (dissappointing too). I was a little put off on IL2 because I wasn't thrilled about the Russian theatre... but when FB appeared I re-looked, and bought FB, I knew this sim had destiny - I knew there was continuing support, which is where many of the others collapsed. I had to upgrade my computer to run it well but happily did so. I've bought all the IL2 products since, including the addon; Battle Over Europe by Just Flight which was a really good quality addon.

As far as I'm concerned, if Oleg builds it, I will probably end up buying it.


02-07-2006, 08:27 AM
Oops this was not meant to be a quote, it was an edit. Oh well...

Originally posted by Vacillator:
Original Il2 but just before FB came out.

Came from CFS 1 and 2 (liked 1 the best).

Before that it went back to Atari ST days with a Lucasarts' Battle of Britain sim (or somesuch, it's a while ago) which started chugging at less than 1 fps as soon as another plane showed up.

Edit: The Atari ST one was Their Finest Hour. My thanks to those further down this thread whose memories are far better than mine.

And no I can't go back to CFS, nowhere near what we've got here.

02-07-2006, 08:52 AM
Came from CFS1, but me and my squad mates are playing IL-2 at HL since first beta version and never look back.

02-07-2006, 09:41 AM
FS2004 -> tried orig. IL-2 @ friend's a year ago or so -> got hooked -> bought the whole shebang http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And yep, I've only flown FB/AEP/PF always patched to the newest version ever since! I will, however, re-install FS2004 in the near future for some nav & procedures & AC subsystems training so's not to forget all that sheit...

02-07-2006, 09:44 AM
Started playing simulations when I was still in elementary school (no joke) - my first sim was either "Red Baron" or "LHX - light helicopter experiment"

Played them on a 486 which was high-end back then and 256 colours were amazing eyecandy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
After those two came "Strike Commander" and "USNF (97)". I didnt like the first so much (although it was a real hardware eater and considered one of the best looking games) - US Navy Fighters on the other hand was just sweet with the ability to fly an F14B Tomcat on MIGCAPs or escorting Intruders over Hanoi in an F4B/J PhantomII...
Years later I converted to Jane's "IAF" and "USAF" which had nicely modelled avionics but still were arcadish in their FMs. I also bought "Falcon4.0" at that time but my copy didnt have a printed manual and as I didnt want to spend ~3 ink cartridges it ended up in the shelves.

Then finally one day I was looking through the game section of a local soft- and hardware retailer and got my hands on "IL2 Sturmovik" - hmm the front cover didnt look so hot but when I turned it around and saw all the amazing graphics, planes, etc. I bought it right away. 30min later I had it installed and ran a couple of offline missions - up to that point I had absolute ZERO knowledge of the planes, the airwar and the aces of WWII and IL2 turned out to be a giant history lesson to me... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

02-07-2006, 09:53 AM
Started out on the C64 and the various aircraft games on that like the fiendishly hard Dambusters. Later swiched to consoles where the Pilot wings was about the only thing on Nintendo, though I do remember some WW2 pacific game once that was amusing for a while. Later when we got a PC again I bought Super EF2000 about a week or two BEFORE we actually got it (gave me time to read the manual at least!) later I tried various other flight sims but for some reason kept going back to EF2000, mainly because it was old by then and ran perfectly on the computer as well as not requiring a CD to run. Still played it frequently up until a couple of years ago. Mostly I was distracted by cars games in this time as this is my other main interest, then I got bored of those and went back looking for some more flight sims, saw IL2 FB wanted it immediately since I have always been a WW2 plane fan but didnt have a machine that could run it. Later when I upgraded to a laptop the specs still didnt look like they could run it but I grabbed EAW from a bargin bin as I thought that might, it didnt, my graphics card just wont run the game because it's too old (like the original NFS and some other old games I had). By now the anticipation of flying a WW2 bird had taken hold and I saw CFS in a shop, it was cheaper than FB and the specs said it would run on my laptop. bought it and a joystick and went flying, eventually got bored of it and didnt fly much. Emigrated to the UK and picked up a copy of the original IL2 from a bargain bin in PC world, bought it, it worked on my machine, spent six months going through the campaign and wondering why didnt I sell drugs or do anything to get this earlier? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Then I got the internet, got patches for it, more planes yay! then discovered online flying, even more addictive, then discovered these forums looking for the patches and eventually tracked down a copy of the now elusive FB, suprise suprise it actually runs on my machine (with a few tweaks and on very low settings, but it does run http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) bought PF a few weeks later, hoping to add AEP to complete the set or maybe waiting for the platinum pack (in which case I will give my old discs to my brother who only has the original IL2 at the moment and cant afford the upgrade.

02-07-2006, 09:57 AM
Flying Corps was the first. Then European Airwar.When Il2 came i installed it, but it was too difficult. But what really hit me, was that FB is coming with Finnish campaign. Istarted to fly and here we are http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

02-07-2006, 10:00 AM
Original IL2. Never played a combat flightsim before. Instantly hooked. Tried civ flight sims, not interested, played other combat flight sims after Il2, none come close IMHO.

02-07-2006, 10:02 AM
I was well into EAW and thought that i`d gotten so good I would join an online Squad. Well, the squad Leader said, "We don`t do EAW any more. We do IL2, try it if your PC can run it, it`s very good."

I`d seen IL2 many times on the shelf and ignored it. The reasons were several; the name I did not know, what was a Sturmovik? It`s made by the evil Commie Russians who`ve just given up Communism, ergo its game programmers can`t possibly match anything we Westerners have done sim-wise. And the plane on the box looked boring, not a fighter- and it never had a dynamic Campaign (big negative for me).

But, a couple of months later (around late 2002, I think) I decided to try it. I knew I could always return it for another game if it turned out **** any way.

I started it. The graphics were a little buggy (cos of my old card and system) and it chugged at certain points, but I was immediately impressed. Everything was in FULL 3D for a start, no 2D pilots that vanished when you looked straight on them, even the sturmovik wheels rolled independently on the intro takeoff! EAW wheels were just 2 black balls!

I started a Campaign as a Russian at the barborossa invasion. On the runway, I prepared to take off. the cockpit was nice, outside looked ok - then i heard the SIRENS. I was at the back so i got the full shrill wail in my ears (never had i heard this in a sim. I`d even written to Microprose saying that there should be sirens on the field on takeoff if under attack) - Suddenly I was in WWII - This wasn`t a game, it was real, the Germans were coming! get up, and get up quickly!

After that i was hooked for good.

02-07-2006, 10:07 AM
First sim I flew was on the ZX-81, fortunately we've come along way since then. On the Spectrum I discovered that the enemy aircraft responded in direct porortion to your joystick inputs, not the most sophisticated AI but that was 1982 or something. I came back to flight sims with CFS2, tried CFS3 and then found this thing slightly late in the day and haven't looked elsewhere since. FS2004 looks good and all but I don't have the spare cash for it.

02-07-2006, 10:08 AM
I played 1942 by Microprose, then made the jump to EAW, and then upon the release of Il2, I picked up a copy. Having suddenly been unable to make the jump to the more difficult game, I returned Il2 and, despite this being a sin, got myself a copy of CFS3.

I didn't come back to the series until the release of Pacific Fighters, which I promptly preordered and played the stand-alone for a while. I then decided I wanted to go online, but I couldn't find any realistic servers as I wanted (I don't like Ki-84s constantly going head to head), so I hunted down Il2 FB Gold pack and haven't left the series since.

02-07-2006, 10:11 AM
CFS about 4 months, then Demo IL2 Thne Origional

02-07-2006, 10:19 AM
I got the original IL2 free when I purchased my CH Combat Stick (was flying Janes)... installed it, flew it, crashed and burned, uninstalled it, got curious a few months later, tried again and been flailing with it ever since...

02-07-2006, 10:25 AM
You need one more option BC...for IL-2 ze demo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

02-07-2006, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
First sim I flew was on the ZX-81

Same here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Tried many sims then got the IL2 demo when it came out & been here ever since & I'm not leaving http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

02-07-2006, 10:39 AM
Do not remeber dates but anyway,I got late into the computer world and my first one was a C64 when Atari 520 St and Amiga 500 was the newest hottes ones but couldn´t afford those so I bought my friends C64 and for that I almost bought every sim there was,Spitfire (40?)Ace of Aces,Thomahawk,F15,to name a few.

Then when I got some money and bought an Atari STFM.Strange choise maybe when Amiga was the über game machine but it was cheaper http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
To that machine I also bought a phletoria of sims like,F16 combat pilot,Gunship, Their finest hour,Flight of intruder to mention those I played the most.
I later upgraded to a Atari 1040 STE with a whopping 1 mb memory so you could see the sideview on Their finest hour and Flight of intruder.

From Atari 1040 STE I got my first step into the PC world with P2 400Mhz 128 mb ram,20 gig harddrive and a 8mb Ati Rage Pro graphic card wich soon got ugraded to a extra 128 mb stick and a 12mb Voodoo 2 and later another 128 mb and a 16 mb Voodoo 3 3000.
Jane´s WW2 Fighters,EAW,F-15,Mig alley,Longbow 2.Flanker 2.0,USAF,IAF,CFS 1&2,and for the first time when the demo was released...Il2.I didn´t look very nice graphicly due to my spec but darn it felt good and I remember how hard it was to even hit an enemy aircraft.

I had that 400 mhz computer for a while,I think when P4 2.6 ghz was the best on the market when I bought a new computer,my present one a P4 2,26 Ghz.Now was the time to buy IL2 cause now I had the spec for it to run it nicley,so from that day I´ve played it.

02-07-2006, 10:39 AM
a few years ago, my roommate and I saw that WW2Online had just been released, and loved the concept, and decided it would be great to get into it. I mainly stayed on the ground in infantry and armor, while he spent a good bit of time in the air. He'd had lots of flight simming experience with the MS flight and combat flight games, while I'd mainly been a FPS guy.

Slowly but sure, I decided it was an interesting pursuit. At 26yrs old, I'd found myself getting more and more bored with arcadish FPS style games and more and more interested simulation gaming. He'd gone out and bought an X36 HOTAS, and let me use his old CH stick to try my hand in the air. I was hooked pretty fast.

Soon, I was out buying myself an X45 and flying the skys of WW2OL almost exclusively. For the most part, I was little more than target practice for the other pilots. Took me 3 weeks of flying nightly before I scored my first legit air to air victory. Took me another 3 weeks before I was shooting down more planes than I was losing myself.

I began to get a bit bored with WW2OL's air sitution, and decided to explore some of the other sims out there. I got Rowan's BoB and CFS2 (both already dated by that time), and found them slightly amusing but not so great. CFS3 came out, and while I had some fun with it, found its myriad of problems too daunting (it sucked badly at launch).

Finally, I got into the IL2 series. Love it. I'll resub to WW2OL for a month or two per 6mos to check out enhancements and new features (and to satify my armor thirst), but the IL2 series is clearly where its at for flight.

02-07-2006, 10:40 AM
Came across IL2 original while Christmas shopping with my wife. Told her 'That looks pretty good. Why don't you get me that sim for Christmas?"

I've never looked back since. I used to play a lot of WWII Sims such as CFS1 and CFS2 (some sims even back to the Commodore 64 days), but I've been playing IL2 since.

My favorite WW2 sim before was European Air War because of the offline campain. It made me feel like I was in England and fighting the 3rd Reich.

Being a real world pilot with over 5000 hours, IL2 FB+AEP+PF is the best I flown.

02-07-2006, 10:40 AM
My first sim was flight simulator 2 on apple iie

02-07-2006, 10:42 AM
I flew CFS2 for 2 weeks then uninstalled it, and walked away from flight sims. Not to my expectations at all.

Then the day after Christmas 2001 I saw a lone copy of IL2 on the shelf at the local Wally World.
And I've been here ever since.

02-07-2006, 10:48 AM
Was never into computers. Until I heard of the impending release of IL2. Over 5yrs ago now.
Having been a Luftwaffe enthusiast for over 40yrs now!
Bought my first computer and every Flight sim game I could lay my hands on at the time.Pending release of IL2. Still have a couple I never even played. Was playing CFS2 and It has to be said enjoying it. (Actualy B-17 was my first Comp/Sim. Didn't really want to fly it. I wanted to shoot it down! A STURMGRUPPE pilot at heart (As long as I can Take off and shoot Mission accomplished http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)
However when IL2 came out. That was it! Nothing could compare. (My favourite part is watching the bullets flying towards my intended target) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Anyways Had a V/Brief Foray into CFS3(As I said I was a LW Fanatic. They did have the GO229 and DO335 first. But unfortuanatly CFS3 to my mind is C**P compared to IL2 and it's Supported add ons.
Waited, Drooled over Bought/Downloaded every patch and addon as they came out. Am still doing it. This latest/Last has been the longest and I am sure will be the best!
Am now on my third rig playing this series.(Close to NIRVANA withIQ and FPS. WooHoo!)
BoB is not exactly a favourite theatre of mine.
But still looking forward to its release.
Am still revelling in playing my favourites in This Sim. Still finding new things to play with after all these years.(Haven't even been Online yet!) More a realistic Camo and ammo/Correct theatre Type person http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Also enjoy this Forum (Spend too much time on it of late!).
BTW. I am happily married with 3 Sons of ages 20, 17 and 6 none of whom share my enthusiasm http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
I Don't care This Sim OWNS! Me
Cheers Steve

02-07-2006, 11:02 AM
Bearcat, you're missing one more option: IL-2 Beta back in 2001. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

02-07-2006, 11:02 AM
I think very first sim was Warbirds of Prey (jet survey sim) in 1993 or so, then Red Baron on my girlfriends' PC around '96-'97. I didn't have my own PC until 2001, and I got CFS2. About a month later I saw IL2 on a shelf, but at first I couldn't get used to the controls or views and didn't recognize many of the a/c.

Almost stopped flying it in frustration when I happened to be landing a 109 and throttled down. That supercharger whine hooked me on the spot. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

02-07-2006, 11:07 AM
IL2 -The original

Anyone remeber Unckle Ivan? and VSO ?

Dam thoes two were good wingmen

02-07-2006, 11:24 AM
I used to be a panzer elite junky as well as Abrams tank platoon etc. Then one day I got so disgusted with the panzer elite AA unlock that i went out to the px and bought Il2 sturmovik, and bam have been hooked ever since. Never tried any of the mission builder stuff until pacific fighters came out and the rest is history. Still crashing on landings about 50% of the time due to floating and over compensationg and hitting the ground and folding up gear. damn flaps and such..

02-07-2006, 11:35 AM
Sims are for kids.

M$oft sent me to establish a persona on this forum. My mission was to lead a gang trolling assault "when the time is right" ... probably right after the next patch. Tired of waiting and the Old_Canuck thing is getting stale .. guess it's time to pick up a new IP.

02-07-2006, 11:43 AM
My first sim is Apache Longbow, then one day I go local store and saw RB2...buy it and get hooked. Then comes CFS1 and EAW... read about IL2 and think it too hard to me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif, some times goes and buy it - amazing.
Then buy CFS3 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif and been thinking about FB - so buy it and there I am...no way back http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Remember when AEP comes... I ordered it and wait - saw another store have it store and order there... next day I have 2 AEP my postbox http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I have LockOn too but... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

02-07-2006, 11:46 AM
been flying il2 since the beggining,but not constantly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

been into flightsims since a loooong time ago,first 'real' PC was a BBC Model B,but that got used mainly for Elite http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
then got a 486 @ 66hz http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif chuck yeagers aircombat,aces over pacific etc..etc...

after a few more pc's flightsims.. I found the joys of multiplayer(one helluva eyeopener flying against humans...and an earopener when I first got on comm's with people from all over the world) when i was flying cfs2 (flew cf1 too,prefered cfs2 tho)then after some years on 'the zone' il2 came out & blew everyone away http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

looking forward to BoB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

02-07-2006, 11:52 AM
I bought the original Stormovik -game, the IL-2, 2-3 months after it´s release. One of my work mates (is that proper english?) recommended it!

I had played MS Flight Simulator, Rowan´s Battle of Britain and the B-17 -game, "The Mighty Eight" or something like that.

All the sims have their good qualities, and their own character, but nothing beats IL-2/PF -series.

Yet I`m missing the strategic board of the BoB and the Norden Bombsifgt of the "Flying Fortress". Other than that I`m doing well with the current sim as it is (=IL-2/PF combination).


02-07-2006, 12:00 PM
Been around since cutting my teeth in the old Commodore 64 days, with that "flight sim" that supposedly featured the SR-71. Though, you wouldn't know it was an SR-71 by looking at it on screen; the model was made of only 8 polygons.

Then moved on to:
> That F-18 sim on the Amiga 500, the one that modeled the San Francisco bay area.
> MS Fight Sim 2
> Their Finest Hour
> Chuck Yeager
> The whole Janes air combat series
> Flight Sim 95, then Flight Sim 98
> Total Air War (still looking to reaquire this jewel!)
> FS2004 (now up to 33 Gigabytes worth on the hard drive!)
> CFS2 and CFS3 with FirePower.
> The original IL-2, and the rest is history...

As much as a bad rap CFS3 gets, I rather enjoy it for the bombing and ground attack missions since adding the FirePower pack. The sounds and explosions look great, and the way the ships burn and smolder after getting bombed is well done, too. Also, it's better now that I have a substantial enough system to run it smoothly (you need as powerful a system you can get to run this inefficient code smoothly!)

FS2004 and PF merged are far and away my two favorite sims on the hard drive, in that order. After that there's War in the Pacific, then GTR, then Quake 4. And that's all I got time for!

02-07-2006, 12:04 PM
I came here from Falcon 4.0, MSFS 2004, and some other, miscellanous flightsims(well just recently) but I've been playing lots. My first game that was kinda close to a sim but got me into that whole world was EA'S Fighter Pilot.

02-07-2006, 12:05 PM
Got Il2 after having played with CFS1 and MSFS98 and 2000. Been here ever since, stuck with MSFS too.

02-07-2006, 12:06 PM
I also started on that now so quaint Apple II+ on Flight Simulator 1 (I think), flying over a grid, and looking at mountains that were just 2-D lines. Too hard to control from the keyboard it was. Then it was F-18 from Micorprose on the Apple Mac 6800. Then with my 'new' 400 mhz PC, Jane's USAF- then F/A-18 Super Hornet.

Upgraded my rig to a 900 mhz Athlon, and yes, MS CFS 2, and MS FS 2004. The latter was a great learning resource on Instrument flying. Upgraded again to the Athlon 2.3 ghz- then, oh then- IL-2, and I haven't looked back since! Such a great game, and from a developer who is also an aviation enthusiast. Don't know if it will ever get as good as this again! But, hope BoB turns out to be all it is supposed to be.



02-07-2006, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Vacillator:
Original Il2 but just before FB came out.

Came from CFS 1 and 2 (liked 1 the best).

Exactly the same as me though I did play strange looking flight "sims" on a Sinclair Spectrum 128k and the Commodore 64 when I was a kid lol

02-07-2006, 12:24 PM
Well my flight sim quest began in 1996. I was in 8th grade and my family just got AOL. Being an airplane crazy kid I saw Air Warrior Online and immediately it became the thing to do with all my friends. We used to all log on after school and go online and fly in a bomber with eachother. I bet all our parents really hated us tying the phone line up everyday from 3 to 7 oclock haha.

After AW went pay per month I got out of that and bought X Wing, Tie Fighter, Janes USNF 97, Longbow 2, flight sim 98. After that my family never upgraded their computer so I was stuck playing these computer games. So I forgot about flight sims, bough a gamecube and lived happily. That is until I recieved a shiny new Dell in 2004. I went back to my gamestop and saw the IL2 Gold Pack sitting there. I bought it and was blown away. I joined a squad within my first week of flying, and once they told me what teamspeak was and I heard people talking to eachother while flying online together I went to the store that minute and bought a mic and played my entire summer. I recently had to sell my PC to help pay for my iMac so I am really missin IL2 right now but I will buy a new PC in time, and can't wait to get back in the air! I also got my brother hooked on the game too, we like to fly as wingmen in fullreal servers, lookout! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-07-2006, 12:25 PM
Shortly after the demo of IL2 came out, I installed it, and was immediately bewildered by it. I couldn't even take off. I deleted it from my harddrive. A couple weeks later, I re-installed it because I was bored and I decided to give it another shot. This time I worked at it and liked it more and more as I got better. I kept buying the sequels and additions and here I am now.

I really came close to never playing the demo again after that first time. Scary. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

02-07-2006, 12:41 PM
I visited my Parents while I was on leave, From Ft.Hood TX, to Detroit. Before growing up, My Brother, and I only played the console's from colecovision to PS2, had a commador64 in the mix. Anyways, I'm home on leave, and my Dad is playing a game on a PC, called Janes WW2 fighters. I was hooked on that, like crack, I hurt when I had to go back to Hood. I forgot about it quick.

Now, 5 yrs pass, I visit my Father at his house, and he's playing MOH, freshly ETS'ed out of the Army, MOH helped ease the transition to civilian life, a yr later I found America's Army, that is my cocain.

While upgrading my pc 1 day in BestBuy, I seen Pacific Fighters, then realizing I have missed so much in the combat flight sim era, I cried...........lol,j/k, and it was even better finding the others like forgotten battles, and aep, and all the patches.

PF+FB+AEP 4.02 is the best by far sim out there featuring WWII planes, handing it off to Lock On Flaming cliffs for the Modern Title.

02-07-2006, 12:55 PM
If the poll results are representative, we are not attracting new players.

02-07-2006, 01:09 PM
I started with Jane's WW 2 Fighters, CFS I and CFS 2. I was hoping someone would put out an EF combat flight simulator, then blundered into the original Il-2 at CompUSA. Once FB and AEP came out it phased Jane's out of use, then when PF came out CFS 2 was phased out. I tried CFS 3 and was under-impressed.

02-07-2006, 01:19 PM
I've bought all the other sims, and do not even have them installed. If it really bothered me i'd break it, and throw it away. Like Falcon 4.0 AF what a piece of $%^#@ waste of time.

02-07-2006, 01:30 PM
Been playing since the original...fantastic game.

EAW>CFS1>CFS2>B17 Mighty 8th>IL2 was my route

I try to play Lomac too but it sux compared to this!

02-07-2006, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I am curious.. I think I ran something like this a while ago... What I want to know is.... What sim were you flying before you got here....

Me.. first PC sim I saw and played was back in 1985 on a commodor portable SX-64 color computer. I was in the army back than so didnt have a whole lot of time to play it. Than while I was going back to school I got a 286 12MHz PC for *school* work. Which eded up with an Adlib card installed and an early joystick. Was playing things like LHX, SWOTL, and Red Baron. Red Baron really got me hooked. Than I got into Compuserves FSFORUM and into making mods for games. I made a few for SWOTL but did most of my work on AOTP, i.e.


From there on I think I have bought every flight sim that has came out.

Did the Air Warrior online thing on the Genie Network for the low low price of $12/hr, then it droped to $6/hr and thought it was a steel! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Then started playing Warbirds (beta 0.80) back when quiz was quiz and pyro were just playing the game. Use to run me about $150/month and thought it was a deal!

Aces High too

Done just about all of them, ended up here, will stay until something beter comes along! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

02-07-2006, 01:52 PM
What did I play before IL-2 came along? Now that's easy, it was... was...

<muse, ruminate, mutter>

Oh, yes. Clear as rain. Before IL-2, in the prime years of my youth, I played Fighter Pilot on the ZX Spectrum, the greatest personal computer ever build.

02-07-2006, 02:12 PM
Was playing Jane's WW2 Fighters around the time the IL-2 demo came out. I actually hated the demo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif, but bought it anyways when it was released.

Been hooked ever since. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

02-07-2006, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Lodovik:
in the prime years of my youth, I played Fighter Pilot on the ZX Spectrum, the greatest personal computer ever build.
After this I can't hold any longer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
The first sim I played was on ZX Spectrum, called Flight Simulator (or something). 48 kilobites, screen resolution is ...khm... very-very low, controls was joystick with small buttons into each direction (1 or 0 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif), but the DME/VOR navigation was possible, and the runway angles were correctly displayed.

The rest? ZX Spectrum -> IBM AT with CGA monitor and MSFS (4?) -> then VGA monitor MSFS -> MSFS all the way until 2002 -> IL2 Demo -> FB -> FB+AEP+PF 4.02m.

The hardest part was getting AEP. I had to travel 1200 km to get it. And I nearly missed the shop closing time!

02-07-2006, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by rnzoli:The hardest part was getting AEP. I had to travel 1200 km to get it. And I nearly missed the shop closing time!

Bro, where do you live? The south pole?

02-07-2006, 02:31 PM
My first Flight Sim.


From there I went to RB I and 2, Fighter Duel, Aces OE and OP, Eaw,CFS1,2 and 3 IL2 FB and PF also all MSFS from 98 up to my current 2004 plus Korea and Flanders Field addon for CFS 3. Do you think I like Flight simming?

02-07-2006, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
First sim I flew was on the ZX-81, fortunately we've come along way since then. On the Spectrum I discovered that the enemy aircraft responded in direct porortion to your joystick inputs, not the most sophisticated AI but that was 1982 or something. I came back to flight sims with CFS2, tried CFS3 and then found this thing slightly late in the day and haven't looked elsewhere since. FS2004 looks good and all but I don't have the spare cash for it.

My God! you must be as old as me? First `Sim` I had was M$ Fight Sim 1 on the old ZX Spectrum (1982/3?) The only thing that you could do was try to land the plane on the runway at (I guess?) Night time. Since then, You name it, I've owned it!

Someone at work asked me the other day `how many computers have you had?` I replied `Over 40 different makes including consoles. From the old Phillips videopac console/computer to the PSP. I've visited space, heaven and hell. Invaded all country's of the Earth, and battled star systems still to be discovered. I've met Goblin's, Imps, and Nazi Zombies, and I've lived in cave man times to the end of the Universe, and made myself go blind with all the p@rn in the world.`

`So you like computers then?` he said. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

02-07-2006, 02:57 PM
Good post Bear. Takes our collective minds off the impending release for a bit eh?

Been in flight sims since most of the youngsters here were poopin green.

Was heavily into CFS series when in 99 or so some clown named Llyla(sp?) showed up on the forum and started trash talking about a new sim that was on the way. Thought Stormin Normin was gonna choke the life out of the joker.

We had some very good, read heated, discussions about what a lone developer could and could not do. I stated that I would take a wait and see attitude. Got Il2 when it hit the shelves. Have not been dissapointed since the very first flight.

It has happily resided on my HD with a host of other equally enjoyable "punch holes in the sky" games ever since.

Ah, the memories.

02-07-2006, 03:23 PM
I was on CFS2 just before I discovered the original IL-2 demo. Then bought IL-2 original and the rest of the series including most of the unofficial campaign add-ons. Only other flight sim I have tried in that time was BoB2 WoV - which was a disaster due to the CTDs (even with all the patches and config tweaks).

02-07-2006, 03:34 PM
My first flight sim was over 15 years ago when Flight Simulator fit on a single 3" floppy, and played off it as well... Even then I enjoyed it but no comparison to what's possible today.

I played a lot of Combat Crapulators, but IL2 original was the first combat game that really pulled me in. Then it was back to try WW2 fighters, CFS2, CFS3, LOMAC, Strike Fighters, FB, FB/AEP, PF/AEP/FB, FB/PF, PF/FB, PF/FB/AEP, IL2FB, IL2PF, FBPFFP, PFFFFT, and now I'm playing this "Oleg Maddox BOB Leaked Beta Rev 1", which kind of sucks balls... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

02-07-2006, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by georgeo76:
If the poll results are representative, we are not attracting new players.

That's worth repeating.

02-07-2006, 03:39 PM
Swing the light.
Good Greif!
Back in 1980(BLACKPOOL) I was playing an ARCADE game GOD Knows what it was called http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif But. I was in a FW 190 Verses a Scroll down flight of B17s.
You got an extra GO if you scored over 100pts
Haven't a clue how it went. But I know "I" held the record for ages till a young "TYKE" Cottoned on to how I could acheive such a score.
It was End of Holiday. Back home to Dream until IL2 comes along.

BTW USEDTOHAVE /STILL GOT a Sinclair Spectrum 48k NO Flight SIM programs though! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Never thought of it as a Computer!

02-07-2006, 04:10 PM
For me it was the Amiga 500 and a game called F-18 I think and another called their finest hour.

With the move to a more powerfull pc I played all the cf series and one of my favorite games European Air War.

I would have to say that the buzz from EAW was unparralelled even through the entire cfs 1,2,3 then some guys mentioned IL-2 now not much else on my PC.

02-07-2006, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Capt.England:

Someone at work asked me the other day `how many computers have you had?` I replied `Over 40 different makes including consoles. From the old Phillips videopac console/computer to the PSP. I've visited space, heaven and hell. Invaded all country's of the Earth, and battled star systems still to be discovered. I've met Goblin's, Imps, and Nazi Zombies, and I've lived in cave man times to the end of the Universe, and made myself go blind with all the p@rn in the world.`

`So you like computers then?` he said. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

That was the funniest thing I've read in a while http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-07-2006, 04:28 PM
I'm a worn out old hippie who has spent a life time in dead end,
slave wage,sweat shop factory jobs.
I decided I would give these new fangled PC things a go in the hopes of learning some new skills.
My first PC was custom built and for its time it wasn't too bad.
1.4 Gig athlon, 256Mb Ram,32mb Gforce 2
Friends and work colleges would say to me "Get this game,get that game'
I would allways say "No I'm not interested in games,this PC was a tool that I had to learn"
Then one day I happened to notice a small preview of a beta test version of a game called 'IL2 Sturmovik' .
As I had a life long interest in WW2,military,
scale modelling etc,I knew what a IL2 was and was curious that some one would name a game for this famous/infamous Russian beast.
So I decided 'I'll get that."
I bought a copy soon after it was released.
It blew me away, suddenly all those unmade kits sitting in their boxs I have squirreled about the house came to life.
I have been a hopeless fanboi ever since.

02-07-2006, 04:44 PM
I played the old, old civie flight sims, like the MSFS when it still came on two floppy disks. I played that a long time, then I saw Falcon 3 demo on floppies and bought that as shareware. Probably late 1992 or so. Then I slowly upgaded MSFS, and got Pro Pilot too. About that time I got AirWarrior and played that followed by Air warrior II. I played that sim both online and off for quite a while. I also bought Red Baron II and then 3D around 1997 or 98. Played the "H" out of that, mostly offline. What a sim it was in it's day too. Bought Falcon 4 about 1999, played the shet out of that. I got into another civie sim called FLY!!, played that about 'til the CD wore out around 1999 to 2000. Also about 1999 I bought EAW and and CFS1 on the same day.
I like EAW a little better so I gave the CFS1 to my brother but made a CD clone of it. Played EAW until it about killed me. I then got the CFS2 Pacific title sometime later but never got CFS3 because I have good taste in sims!! Got civie FLY II in 2001 or so but didn't play it much.
About that year I also got Mig Alley, and played that until my eyeballs nearly popped out. I had
Rowan's Battle of Britain but only played it a few times, made a coaster of the CD and also a cheapo frisbee!! I started playing civie sim X-plane in 2001 and have flown it on and off ever since, still do. Then, one fateful in late 2001 ( I think ) I DL'd the demo of IL2, which is the sim that has had most of my sim time ever since. I have also tried at some point some other online only or online mostly sims but don't remember the names of them. Played B-17 Flying Fortress II for a while. Althought you could fly the planes, it wasn't much of a flight sim. Was a great B-17 crew sim though!!

02-07-2006, 05:08 PM
I greatly enjoyed the Aces serries, "Red Baron, Aces over Pacific, Aces over Europe" I stayed in those until I saw Janes WW2 Fighters at Best Buy. I really liked that one two, but was dissapointed in the planeset. I saw Pacific Fighters and Snatched it, but when I realized it was just a part of a serries http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I ran out to get the whole shmeal. I am still a little dissapointed in the planeset, but the new patch has a lot of goodies that should even things out. The Japanese still have something to be desired though ...

02-07-2006, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
First sim I flew was on the ZX-81, fortunately we've come along way since then. On the Spectrum I discovered that the enemy aircraft responded in direct proportion to your joystick inputs, not the most sophisticated AI but that was 1982 or something.
Yeap. Me too. With those stunning graphics and unpredictable AI... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I've come a long way in that regard: ZX81 > 286 > 486 DX2 > K6 200 > Celeron 466 (GeForge MX400) > Athlon 64 3200+ (GeForce 6600GT)

"Chuck Yeager's Air Combat"
"A-10 Tank Killer"
"Comanche: Maximum Overkill"
"Jane's Apache Longbow"
"Aces Over Europe"
"Aces Over the Pacific"
"European Air War"
"Jane's WW2 Fighters"
"Falcon 4.0"
"F-22 ADF"

02-07-2006, 05:46 PM
My first sim was 'F16 Fighting Falcon' played on an Amiga 500 in the late 1980's. I recall how awesome it was to be able to fly past 'mountains' (they were actually pyramids) and how you could strafe convoys by trimming the nose down while maintaining level flight http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
My last flightsim before Il2 was MSCFS1- i had quickly become bored with it and figured i didnt have a lot of time for games anymore. What a revelation Il2 was http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
I picked up Il2 for AUD$10 for Xmas 2004 (for myself http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) as no-one in my family could think what to get for me
Within a short space of time i found the forum here and learned things had become even better- i soon acquired all the upgrades and (recently) the patches.
Now I am constantly avoiding all my chores at home, my clinic patients are being neglected, and the health service is going to hell in southern NSW thanks to a Russian guy named Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Keep up the good work.... because i'm not http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

02-07-2006, 06:02 PM
Before I started flying in this sim I was pretty into Red Baron 3D. Just an awesome sim and a great online community. That was a number of years ago when it was still popular. After that I stopped playing flight sims for about 3 or 4 years because I didn't have decent joystick (logitech) I got so fed up that they would break within a few months of me using it. It wasn't until last summer that I was able to afford a excellent stick (Saitek x45) and get into my sims again. I think I'm doing pretty well for not playing for 4 years. The learning curve wasn't so high for me because I played lots of sims growing up. Even landing on a carrier wasn't that hard for me. I guess since I've always had a passion for planes and sims in general http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-07-2006, 06:36 PM
all the way back to Red Baron 3D

02-07-2006, 06:45 PM
I started back in 80's with Falcon AT, and tried to run it on XT. Even with that clunky 640x480 vga graphics, and near slide show frame rate, my brother and I hooked two XT's together via serial port and flew head to head. Very miserable experience!

Then I bought Falcon 3.0 and ran that on a 386. At least it ran OK, but I soon grew tired of the poor graphics.

Next, tried my brother's MSFS 5.1 on a Pentium 90 and installed all the southern Ontario scenery and airports, added a bunch of sailplanes, and tried flying cross country, but again, soon tired of the clunky, jaggy, graphics and it sat on the shelf with my Falcon 3.0.

Then a couple years ago, on a visit to my brother, he shows me Forgotten Battles. Wow! What incredible graphics! Realistic, detailed scenery and airplanes! Cool lighting effects and weather! We got off just flying around...never mind the shooting and bombing, this was just like flying!

Not until last April did I have a machine capable of even running the game, but now I'm totally hooked. My brother and I got our brother-in-law and a few friends interested and now we fly a couple times a week online with FB+AEP 2.04. Last Saturday had a record four of us in the game.

My brother and I have also installed PF and merged and patched to 4.02 and have dipped our toes in the waters of Hyperlobby a couple times.

02-07-2006, 07:01 PM
If the poll is representative, then we are not attracting new players...

This is true, however, if the results are representative, think of how many folks have enjoyed 1:C's product enough to pay for four different pieces of software.

Myself, I started on Aces over the Pacific, and got AOE and Red Baron. I got away from flight sims for a long time, and did some research about which one would be the best for my money, and this no-name Il-2 got some pretty good reviews. Because of those reviews I have never owned any of the CFS series. I think I like it like that.

02-07-2006, 07:01 PM
Been playing around with a computer for only 6 years. Still have alot to learn but at least I built my first one in 2005. Said I'd never own one either.... boy was that wasted breathe. LOL

First game was Nations WWII Fighter Command from EB's bargin bin... $2.99. Second was Jane's WWII Fighters. Really got hooked with B17 Flying Fortress "The Mighty Eighth" at the whopping price of 44.95 back in 2000. Still have the CFS series, EAW, IL2 Sturmovik, Falcon 4 and Falcon 4.0 AF and a couple other, but they're not installed.

ILFB/AEP/PF, SHIII and FS9 with Wings of Power take up all my time now.

02-07-2006, 07:04 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bearcat99:
What I want to know is.... What sim were you flying before you got here.... and at what point in the 1C sim chain did you arrive../QUOTE]

I have flown most prop sims since "Their Finest Hour", Red Baron & RB3D, SWOTL,PAW, AOP, AOE, Dawn Patrol, CFS1 and 2,Jane's WWII fighters, European Air War. (Don't care for modern jet sims) I fly totally off line since even after all these years and flight sims I am still a terrible fighter pilot so would only be cannon fodder on line.
I came from EAW (which I still enjoy) to the first IL2. I have the whole 1C series but in many ways still find the original IL2 the most fun, for me, to fly. PF would probably be my favorite of the series if it were more complete

02-07-2006, 09:23 PM
Didn't get into PC's until 1997 although I took Data Processing at Vo-Tech my senior year in 1976. First Pc was a 233mhzAMD. I was on the road a lot so I would buy comp and game mags. Been buying MaxPC since BOOT 21. Anyway, with four kids, I didn't have much cash(still don't) so I scrounged the bargain bins and came away with Fighter Duel and Sierra's Flight Pak. I never did get those DOS games to work well. A-10 I could play okay. A-10 II was better. About this time Best Buy had a 2 day sale on Falcon 4 for $14.99 with the binder. Well, through the gaming mags, I got loads of demos. I still have all the disks. I actually have the Falcon 4 demo. I guess EAW is the main one that I come from. Also got Jane's WW2 Fighters and CFS 1. Then the demo for Il-2 showed up and it was tough. Kept playing EAW. Oh, forgot about Fighter Ace, Warbirds and Air Warrior II and III. Played the free versions of them. Also have SDOE, F-15, Fighters Anthology, Fighter Ace 3.5, Sabre Ace, Mig Alley, Luftwaffe Commander, MSFS 98, CFS 2,3, B-17II: The Mighty Eighth and VietNam Med Evac.
Was still playing EAW when I picked up IL-2 for $9.99. By this time had a Compaq 5838 with an 500 Athlon and a Voodoo 3 card. Still was mainly playing EAW and Jane's. Waited until FB came down to $19.99. Once I tried FB, even though most the missions had to be played at 1/2 or 1/4 speed, I was hooked. Paid full price for AEP and PF cause I couldn't wait to get them. Actually I came from X-Wing VS. Tie-Fighter.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif need to go to sleep, rambling again....

02-07-2006, 09:29 PM
Wanted a good WWII sim, as I love WWII and airplanes. Looked at PC Gamer, or some mag, as it had a review of the current sims out. IL-2 original was hyped as the best sim ever apart from FB, which was the new "best sim ever". This was 2002.

I got the original IL-2 as it only costed 7 quid. Fired it up, and the first campaign I played was a 109 campaign, I think.

Then around August/September 2002, I was getting bored with DF servers just buzzing around in my I-16, and looked into joining a squad. Found the 69.GIAP, and found I had to grab FB, which I did.

Been here ever since.

02-07-2006, 09:42 PM
got my first pc back in 1992. she was a 386sx-16mhz machine with 1 mb of ram. the first gaming experience i had on her was the falcon 3.0 demo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif naturally, i bought the game soon after that with a state of the art $15.00 joystick which had 3 buttons http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
must've spent more time playing that game than i did on homework for my high school. soon after that game i got red baron and wolfpack. today, my pc is occupied with il2 with all the addons and patches and silent hunter III. unfortunately i spend more time at work http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
but my free time is well spent with these 2 masterpieces http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

02-08-2006, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by georgeo76:
If the poll results are representative, we are not attracting new players.

Another interpretation is that the original IL2 was so good that all right-minded WWII simmers got it straight away, and that it's not the IL2 family failing to attract new players, but PC flight sims.

02-08-2006, 01:23 AM
Wow, doesn't this take me back. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I knew I had to learn more about computers, so I swapped an old XE Ford Falcon station wagon that I had riveted the tailgate on to stop it falling completely off for a computer with Win 3.1 on it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

This puter had a game called Their Finest Hour on it and I spent many hours on it.

Then I upgraded and bought a new system (cost me a heap), all the latest. Pentium processor, 32meg Ram, 1.2gig HDD. This thing was great. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I tried to run Their Finest Hour on it, but the processor was just too fast and it would just run at hyperspeed all the time. I gave the game away for a while until I came across a Pacific sim (still have the disk somewhere), but couldn't get it to run properly (probs with allocated memory). So I got into the Age of Empires type of games.

A couple of years later I bought a new system loaded with CFS2 and had a wow of a time offline. I also found CFS1.

Then I discovered a disk in a shop called IL2 Sturmovik. Played it and CFS2 for a while leaning more each time toward IL2. Realizwd that there was no comparison in flight model. But CFS2 still had Joe Amada's RAAF addon.

I got IL2FB and CFS3. The latter became a matched set of coasters 9(actually I still have them to remind me of being ripped).

I became a dedicated IL2FB fanboi and then..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif....I got into online flying http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Joined a squad and never looked back.

However, had a few barnies with the darling and many late nights. Now I find any excuse to slip back into the office at work and check every half hour if the patch is out yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

I play CODUO and COD2 with some close friends under our rules, but IL2FB still rules.....my life http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

I found my old Finest Hour disks recently and a program to slow the processor down.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif I flew that. We have come a long way haven't we?

02-08-2006, 01:39 AM
I think the first flight sim was a wireframe f14 sim on the sincler spectrum ?!?

when I got my first pc one I bought ROwans Flying Corp and played it to death - a great but slightly buggy sim . This is what put me onto the upgrade and tweaking PCs path as I wanted to learn as much as possible to squeeze the best out of my old pc.

I then got CFS1 which I hated as the planes flew like boxes- this put me off flight sims and I played a lot of FPS and strategy games until a mate loaned me his IL2 and he didnt get it back. Iv bought every release since.

I have also just got BOB 2 WOV and I think this is worth playing-the campaign and flying look good- I just wish I had more time to get into it but since starting playing IL2FB online I
have no time or no real inclination for anything else.

02-08-2006, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by georgeo76:
If the poll results are representative, we are not attracting new players.
The poll is not representative. Hardcore simmers are over-represented. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

02-08-2006, 02:26 AM
my first was "spitfire" on commodore 64, than aces of aces.

in PC era:
1 aces over europe
2 aces over pacific
3 air warrior 1-3
4 EAW ( one and only) with all mods
5 CFS2
6 IL2

02-08-2006, 06:05 AM
1993 - F22 Retaliator (on a friend's pc... loved it)
1993 - 2001 Sex, drugs, alcohol (loved it)
2001 [September] CFS3 (seemed everything I was looking for, but something was missing...)
2001 [October to present] Il-2 demo, Il-2, FB, FB+AEP, FB+AEP+PF etc...

02-08-2006, 06:30 AM
Airwarrior(very poor indeed)
Dawn patrol(loved it)
Red Baron I/II(Ditto)
CFS1(Thougt it was great,despite that high wing JU 88!)
European Air War(sound of jaw hitting floor,a classic)
CFS2(Nice,although i just cant seem to get excited about Pacific war stuff)
Rowans Battle of Britain(Despite a flurry of e-mails to get it working correctly,really liked it)
IL2Sturmovik demo(hooked,from then till now!)
The rest as they say,is History

02-08-2006, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
You need one more option BC...for IL-2 ze demo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Originally posted by Jetbuff:
Bearcat, you're missing one more option: IL-2 Beta back in 2001. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Naaahh I didnt miss it.. I just figured the details od retail,demo,beta could be spelled out in the post... I figured IL2 was enough. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Originally posted by georgeo76:
If the poll results are representative, we are not attracting new players.

Id say that perhaps the forums arenmt attracting new members.... or a lot of them have left.. There are 221 people on Hyperlobby right now... it is 0853 here in Virginia.

Well at this very moment there are 221 people on HL..... more than in this thread.... Id say it is more a matter of people being too busy having a ball to come to

02-09-2006, 07:01 PM
The Navy taught me to fly in 44 (no action). Always liked airplanes,especially WW1 biplanes, maybe because I learned to fly in a Stearman. Liked Red Baron because I love the history. Flying sims gives me a fix. Read about IL2 in a flight mag. Upgraded my computer to fly it. Pacific Fighters was like an Xmas present.

02-09-2006, 08:28 PM
How about Screaming Deamons: Fighter Squadron Over Europe? I loved it.
Then Israeli Airforce, Apache/Havoc (great!),CFS FS2002 Then I got into car sims (GPL, GP4, Rally Trophy) Got back into flying with IL2 Demo, Pacific Fighters, then the whole IL2 thing.
I also am flying Flanker 2.5 and FS 2004. All Great. Not enogh time to play......

02-10-2006, 02:25 AM
I bought the first IL-2 release and moved up all the way to pacific fighters as the expansions became available.

Before IL-2 the first sims I got into were Aces of pacific and Aces over europe,1942 PAW,and others right before IL-2 I was still playing European Air war(with mods)and Rowans BOB,the only MS CFS I liked was the first after that they really sucked.Ive been around since the early days of flight sims.

Heck I still have F22 Total Air War and Janes F-15 on my PC as well as EECH.They just havent been beaten!!!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-10-2006, 02:58 AM
I came from MS CFS1 & 2. I remember reading in the forum one night that there was this great new looking WWII sim coming that included smoking gun tracers and accurate hit tracking on the aircraft frame rather than some ****ty surrounding box scenario. Well that got my interest immediately and I took a look at the development shots, they looked good, so when it was ready I downloaded the demo. After a good look at it I was hooked and have been ever since.

Cheers, CrazySchmidt. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-10-2006, 03:06 AM
Il2 was what really tweaked my interest in PC gaming. I read about it 9 months before it came out and thought "can't wait"! I had played CFS1 for a bit but had lost interest in it. Anyway, still here and still playing. I still find it amazing that various iterations of one game have been in my CD drive for 4 years now! Love it! But Mrs Bazzaah2 does encourage me to leave the anorak at home.

02-10-2006, 05:23 AM
I think that the only thing that I miss from cfs2 and cfs 3 was that you could not load the scenery from post FS98 sims. CFS1 was good because with a little treaking, you could use any countrys scenery including download addons.

Best old sim, I loved micropose's `F19 stealth fighter` on the old Atari ST. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif The F15 version was not as good and I must of only played that for 3 months before I got a Amiga CDTV with F16 Falcon.

Also good was `Thunderhawk` by Core Design. A good fictional helicopter sim.

02-10-2006, 06:02 AM

- Flight Simulator for Commodore 64 (!!!) in the eighties
- CFS 2
- IL-2 FB
- PF

I missed IL-2

02-10-2006, 06:19 AM
IL2 -The original!!!

but god knows how many flight sims i played before il2 came out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

02-10-2006, 06:32 AM
Was a CFS1 offliner then came to play IL2 in March2002,entered online in June2002.

02-10-2006, 06:16 PM
It all started a rainy summer day... found a PCgamer cd and I tried all the demos on it... one was Forgotten Battles. Flew it with the mouse and keyboard... loved it!
Next day I bought a joystick and the full game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Since then I have gotten a bunch of sims, MicrosoftFlight2004, CFS3, Silent Hunter 3 and more, more and some more... :P

But no one matches Il2 series, love it!
Thanks for the 403 patch, great work lads http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

02-10-2006, 07:24 PM
Falcon4 blew my socks off
Then IL2, props are my ist love and nobody does it better than Oleg.

02-10-2006, 09:30 PM
Hi Bearcat, In response to your original question...I have loved simming since a freind let me play SWOTL and Aces of the Pacific on his old 486. I then played also bought Aces over Europe, then F-22 Lightening3, which was "TITS" back then for cool factor. Then played the IL2 demo which started an unstoppable infatuation with this sim since. I have bought every new addon and downloaded as many skins as I could these last few years. I bought a TrackIR 3Pro and a FF joystick to try to get more immersion. Ive made various missions and Ive since built a fictional 37 mission ME-109 campaign called "Balaton" found on the CombatAce files area. And once the carriers came into IL2, well, Ive been happy as a pig in slop ever since...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Love this sim, simply love it. And Ive been in awe of Olegs' incredible support of this sim; obviously a result of his dedication to his customers, his love for his work and his sim.

02-10-2006, 10:20 PM
CFS WW1 mod to IL:2 Original since March, 2002

02-11-2006, 01:53 AM
Years ago I had an Atari ST computer and loved a flight sim F117 Stealth bomber I think it was.

Then a few years back I got meself a computer to do other stuff but also to play flight sims on. I tried Janes Attack squadron and was very, very, very dissapointed. Also tried microsoft combat FS1 and although not bad I was thinking to meself, FFS thing must have moved on since the Atari ST.

Did a few searches on the net and turned up IL2Sturmovik.
Bought it and what can I say!!

This is exactly what I was looking for and where I imagined the technology and programming skill could take us to, way back in 88, when I was using my Atari.

And from IL2 to FB then all the various patches and addons I've got to say that Oleg Maddox and his team have done a great job in realising my filght sim dream of 88.

Can't wait till BOB comes out but I think my bank account is going to take a hammering to get all the eye candy that my heart yearns for.

02-11-2006, 04:21 AM
I started with F/A-18 Hornet 3.0, F/A-18 Korea. I stopped simming for a while 'cause I ws working full time, going to tech school and not really sleeping or eating much (No money). A friend of mine showed me FB one day.

Three years later, I now work on F/A-18's, have enough money to eat, and play PFm 4.03.

Another shameless plug http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sakai_Campaign2.0 at airwarfare.com (http://airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_campaigns.htm#051)




02-11-2006, 08:01 AM
Coming from only flying on FS2004, I first discovered the IL2 demo and thought those "weird russian planes were acting oddly"... Still, I bought IL2 a year later (got used to flying warbirds... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) and since I was on a tight budget, decided to wait until the prices went down when FB and AEP were released. I bought PF a few months ago, just looooved it and have ordered both FB and AEP.
I'm still wondering why I waited for so long... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

02-12-2006, 12:17 PM
I had CFS1 early on, awaited CFS2, awaited IL2, awaited FB.... been waiting ever since (just to see what's next) never bought CFS3.

02-12-2006, 12:29 PM
IL-2 original was my first flight sim 4 years ago now , in Christmas 2001

02-12-2006, 01:35 PM
I came from Janes : USAF, CFS1 and CFS3 and FS200 and FS2004.

I've just bought PF and Lock On just to fill my lust for some proper sims (unlike CFS3)

02-12-2006, 02:00 PM
Red Baron,AoE/AoP all in one pack. I had a Pentium 75Mhz with MMX, Win 95 Wow! Hot system. My 1st joystick was a simple Gravis with a fire button on top. Then on to CFS1, 2, then IL-2 FB in Jan. 2003.

02-12-2006, 02:05 PM
PS, must throw in RBII/RB3D, never could find a copy of Flying Corp Gold, shucks, heard it was awsome.

02-12-2006, 03:07 PM
I got hooked by an ad in Aviation History magazine to fly "free" on the Internet with "Warbirds". I was too cheap to fly online for a fee (after the 2-week grace period), so I gradually started trying other sims: F-15,Janes WWII, F/A-18,Mig Alley,Falcon 4.0. I read a review of IL-2, bought a new computer to play it, and have been hooked ever since. Of course, I have since upgraded video cards, RAM and peripherals, too. Maybe I should have stayed with on-line gambling http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif It would have been cheaper. I have a number of books on WWII fighters, so this lets me play out some of my nearest and dearest fantasies. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

02-12-2006, 03:21 PM
SWOTL way back in '93
Aces over the Pacific
Aces over Europe
The two A-10's
CFS2 (cfs3 gift but never played more than 2 or 3 times)
then finally Il2 - ahh, paradise!

02-12-2006, 04:59 PM
Fighterplane on some Atari alike console in the 70`s. Airwar by SPI (Counters and Rulebook) early 80`s (still the only time I`ve seen the Genie air-to-air nuke rocket portrayed). F15 (I think it was called) on the Speckie. KOTS and SWOTL and best game ever Flight of the Intruder on the Amiga. Then just about everything since about 93 thats been published for the P.C. At the moment I`m buggering about with OFF and WOV but I`m looking forward to flying one of my favorite aircraft of all time, blame P.Closterman, the Tempest.