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stalkervision
10-02-2009, 10:42 AM
Just wondered since some of you have got it installed already. What is your opinion of it?

DKoor
10-02-2009, 10:46 AM
Downloading skins http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

mmitch10
10-02-2009, 10:48 AM
Frustrating so far. Installed, and when I tried to run the game I get....nothing. No hard disk access, the cd whirs for a few seconds and then nothing. Task manager shows no IL2 activity. It just doesn't start. It was a clean install I had ready for this moment. I'm currently uninstalling, reinstalling etc, hopefully that will sort it out.

jurinko
10-02-2009, 10:52 AM
Mitch be sure you install it on 4.08m version.

FatCat_99
10-02-2009, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by mmitch10:
Frustrating so far. Installed, and when I tried to run the game I get....nothing. No hard disk access, the cd whirs for a few seconds and then nothing. Task manager shows no IL2 activity. It just doesn't start. It was a clean install I had ready for this moment. I'm currently uninstalling, reinstalling etc, hopefully that will sort it out.
You probably need old mg_snd.dll and
mg_snd_sse.dll . That's known problem with some sound cards.

Sun_Ra
10-02-2009, 10:57 AM
Just to be sure, we can apply the official patch over a current 4.09beta mod version. Also will the little AAA version switcher program still work?

JG52Uther
10-02-2009, 10:58 AM
Works perfectly for me,on a 'clean' 408 install.
Love the SM79,and the Avia.Not tried anything else yet.

stalkervision
10-02-2009, 10:58 AM
I took out my beta install because the read me say to install it over 4.08 only.

Treetop64
10-02-2009, 11:08 AM
I-16 Type 5 is a lot of fun to fly, if useless against some of the more contemporary aircraft in the sim. No supercharging at all and a fixed propeller pretty much limits your chances against the "later" planes, but against opposing aircraft of its own generation it dominates! Looks good with the enclosed canopy, too.

Graphically, I noticed a conspicuous amount of mip-mapping in the aircraft models, much more so than there used to be.

mmitch10
10-02-2009, 11:47 AM
Thanks for the tips guys, I'll be sure to try them out.

It was a 4.08m clean install, the only addition was that Battle Over Europe was also installed, but I can't see why that would make a difference.

Back to real life, I'll be looking at this again in a couple of hours.

Mr_Zooly
10-02-2009, 12:08 PM
I must be missing something with the SM79 as it seems the gun positions dont allow me to fire the guns in any meaningful way, they fire but no aiming is possible so any help/info would be appreciated.
other than that its looking good so far.
Edit, never mind found it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

AndyJWest
10-02-2009, 12:12 PM
Yes, the SM 79 has some interesting features, and a good look at the new manual is well worthwhile. Probably a good idea with the other new aircraft too.

I've got to go out for a bit, boo hoo! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Have to come back to my new toys later.

Treetop64
10-02-2009, 12:41 PM
For ATI users; the water edges are smoothed out nicely! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

stalkervision
10-02-2009, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Treetop64:
For ATI users; the water edges are smoothed out nicely! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'm a ninga-vidia user.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TinyTim
10-02-2009, 01:04 PM
Wow SM.79 is tough! Too tough maybe, at least for light machineguns (which were main armament of the fighters that faced it in pre- and early-war period - like Gladiator and Hurricane). It's incredibly fire-resistant.

Apart from that - a beautifully modelled aircraft! Cockpit, gunstations and that antique bombsight, just wow. Love it. I'm sure it'll be an instant fav online. It takes just a bit to get used to dual-pitch engines. Also, the two SAFAT HMGs facing backward do have a punch, especially versus weak Hurris inline engine.

mmitch10
10-02-2009, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by FatCat_99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mmitch10:
Frustrating so far. Installed, and when I tried to run the game I get....nothing. No hard disk access, the cd whirs for a few seconds and then nothing. Task manager shows no IL2 activity. It just doesn't start. It was a clean install I had ready for this moment. I'm currently uninstalling, reinstalling etc, hopefully that will sort it out.
You probably need old mg_snd.dll and
mg_snd_sse.dll . That's known problem with some sound cards. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Thanks, FatCat, it's worked perfectly. The Slovakia winter map and the Avia are fantastic.

Right, the kids in bed, my wife is out, I have a couple of cans of Greene King and I'm set for the night!

Jure_502
10-02-2009, 02:38 PM
Love the SM 79! It's got nice looking cockpits and skins and a decent payload!!

*If you are unable to move your gunners make sure you binded a key for open canopy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

AndyJWest
10-02-2009, 02:38 PM
Had a few quick test flights:
Avia B534 is a peach. No rudder trim, but otherwise no problems. Turns on a sixpence. A doddle to land, and if you come in too high (I did), it feels safe in a full-rudder sideslip.

I did a proper 'test pilot' job on this. Selected 'Scramble' in the QMB for an airfield takeoff:

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/Scramble.jpg

The I-16 type 5 seems ok too, though I was slightly confused by starting in a hanger (Slovakia winter map). Made a pigs ear of the landing, though:

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/OopsI-16.jpg

THe automatic flaps on the SM 79 take a bit of getting used to, I think they cause slight pitch changes as they deploy. If you just rely on staying level and throttling back, it seems to settle out ok, and handles well at low speed.

There are some nice skins too:

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/SM79-c.jpg

Time to give the Fokker a proper test I think: I need a target...

Viikate_
10-02-2009, 02:59 PM
First pilot to shoot down 6 DB-3s in five minutes with Fokker wins a cookie

http://www.sci.fi/~fta/finace26b.htm (http://www.sci.fi/%7Efta/finace26b.htm)

blairgowrie
10-02-2009, 03:01 PM
Viikate. Who excatly is Team Daidalos?

K_Freddie
10-02-2009, 03:21 PM
Just read the PDF.. looks great and a good amount of work gone into this 'patch' - BoB:SOW must be good for the time it's taken...

NOW - will you lot get off the internet so that I can download it without my DL-manager bombing out... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And a great one for Team-D http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

DKoor
10-02-2009, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Viikate_:
First pilot to shoot down 6 DB-3s in five minutes with Fokker wins a cookie

http://www.sci.fi/~fta/finace26b.htm (http://www.sci.fi/%7Efta/finace26b.htm) Should not be such a problem in game.
Although certainly not easy (gunners).

But to do this IRL is bordering with epic since it must be vastly harder all things considered.

I remember when I read on how Finnish pilots dealt with VVS bombers... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif pretty impressive. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ElAurens
10-02-2009, 03:33 PM
*SIGH*

The mirrors are all running at a snail's pace.

I started a download 5 hours ago and still have seven and a half to go.

DuckyFluff
10-02-2009, 03:35 PM
Torrent takes minutes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

DKoor
10-02-2009, 05:03 PM
Fokker: sweet plane to fly... very sweet (relatively stable). Got some punch in those pesky 7,62's for its time frame that is.

However... bad news is that the Fokker is going to be outmaneuvered by practically anything it encounters, plus outran by many. It also has controls noticeably locked on higher speed.

So it is easy to see that it isn't going to be a very popular plane online http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .

For anti bomber actions it is more than good, I just shot down 8 VVS SB bombers (1938 year) with only two machine guns http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

GerritJ9
10-02-2009, 05:42 PM
So far I only briefly tested the Ki.43-1b against the Interceptor in QMB. First impression: the Interceptor matches everything the Ki can do and then some; it climbs like mad and turns as well as it climbs. Can't wait until it gets its own cockpit, this bird is going to gobble up the Ki.43s when it does!

DKoor
10-02-2009, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by GerritJ9:
So far I only briefly tested the Ki.43-1b against the Interceptor in QMB. First impression: the Interceptor matches everything the Ki can do and then some; it climbs like mad and turns as well as it climbs. Can't wait until it gets its own cockpit, this bird is going to gobble up the Ki.43s when it does! +1

To add... this thing'll probably gobble everything up to 1942 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif.

The_Stealth_Owl
10-02-2009, 06:00 PM
4.09 is awesome!

Whats that oine new bi-plane called?

Thats my favorite plane.

WTE_Galway
10-02-2009, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by FatCat_99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mmitch10:
Frustrating so far. Installed, and when I tried to run the game I get....nothing. No hard disk access, the cd whirs for a few seconds and then nothing. Task manager shows no IL2 activity. It just doesn't start. It was a clean install I had ready for this moment. I'm currently uninstalling, reinstalling etc, hopefully that will sort it out.
You probably need old mg_snd.dll and
mg_snd_sse.dll . That's known problem with some sound cards. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



In the Beta version the sound DLL's were also incompatible with the older Athlon processors (Barton and earlier).

mmitch ... if you are using an older AMD Athlon processor you might want to try replacing those sound DLL's with the 4.08m version.

stalkervision
10-03-2009, 12:03 AM
I really like a lot of the new features and aircraft which are real nice but it has the same old AI. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

This IMO should take precedence in any future patches.

Enemy that do lazy barrel rolls 25 ft off the deck and rise and dive in a foolish manner no fighter pilot would ever dream of doing need to be expunged from what is a pretty wonderful game in general otherwise. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Lots and lots of people who own this game are "off-liners" and deserve to have a much better AI IMO.

In general except for that i am happy with the patch thou. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ba5tard5word
10-03-2009, 12:14 AM
I think they spiced up the fighter AI, it really seems like the planes loop around a lot more to evade you.

ElAurens
10-03-2009, 07:24 AM
Have to agree on the AI. After flying the modded game for a while, going back to stock AI behaviour is quite a let down.

The Avia is a delight to fly. New best cr@p plane.

The secret jem, that no one is talking about is the MC 202 series VII, or whatever it is. The new cockpit configuration makes this a much better aeroplane to fly in combat.

It was interesting fighting the Re 2000 with a Tomahawk as well. In human hands it might be a decent aircraft.

CloCloZ
10-03-2009, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
I think they spiced up the fighter AI, it really seems like the planes loop around a lot more to evade you.

Just downloading now, so I didn't tested it yet.
But if they really boosted the already tough, unrealistic (no blackouts for AI ...) and finally boring endless-looping escaping manoeuvres, they made the wrong decision. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Recent AI MODS I know, at least V.17 (I didn't try newer versions), improved AI in a much more realistic and pleasant way, just giving a much more varied behaviour, in escaping techniques too.
IMHO, I don't think we need "more difficult to oppose" AI, we just need "more realistic i.e more human-like" AI.

stalkervision
10-03-2009, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by CloCloZ:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
I think they spiced up the fighter AI, it really seems like the planes loop around a lot more to evade you.

Just downloading now, so I didn't tested it yet.
But if they really boosted the already tough, unrealistic (no blackouts for AI ...) and finally boring endless-looping escaping manoeuvres, they made the wrong decision. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Recent AI MODS I know, at least V.17 (I didn't try newer versions), improved AI in a much more realistic and pleasant way, just giving a much more varied behaviour, in escaping techniques too.
IMHO, I don't think we need "more difficult to oppose" AI, we just need "more realistic i.e more human-like" AI. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I second that motion TWICE! The ai really does need a major realism tune-up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Bremspropeller
10-03-2009, 09:02 AM
Fokker D.XXI is new best cr@p-plane.
Tightly followed by the Avia.


Boy, how that dutch Fokker looks lovely http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif
I'm off, gotta hunt some Hayabusas http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

stalkervision
10-03-2009, 09:06 AM
New planes are wonderful, new QMB is really really nice. All maps included.

The_Stealth_Owl
10-03-2009, 09:06 AM
Tightly followed by the Avia.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif


I disagree with you 100%!

DKoor
10-03-2009, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
The secret jem, that no one is talking about is the MC 202 series VII, or whatever it is. The new cockpit configuration makes this a much better aeroplane to fly in combat. +1 Yes.... I'm just testing it, it seems that might be the better MC.200 variant in game... 3 has quite obstructed cockpit, 7 much better.


Originally posted by ElAurens:
It was interesting fighting the Re 2000 with a Tomahawk as well. In human hands it might be a decent aircraft. Reggiane might turn out to be a beast... it certainly has some nice chars. It may be only my (false) impression, but this fighter seems to do a good job in energy maneuvers (vertical).

DKoor
10-03-2009, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by The_Stealth_Owl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Tightly followed by the Avia.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif


I disagree with you 100%! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>What he meant is:

The worst performing aircraft in patch is Fokker followed by Avia.
I might just agree with him http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.

Doesn't matter how crappy it gets as long as I like it and it can take off (landing isn't necessary http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif ).

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The_Stealth_Owl
10-03-2009, 09:13 AM
Are you kidding? http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

The Avia performs like a P-51! (just a little)

I think it was a modified Temptest, listen to the engine.

I think the Avia is a Modified Temptest. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Feathered_IV
10-03-2009, 09:27 AM
The new AI seems fairly poor. It also seems to use different files, thus bypassing Cert's own highly praised mod. An enemy will now just do an endless scissors maneuver once you get behind them.

Viikate_
10-03-2009, 10:11 AM
What new AI?

Feathered_IV
10-03-2009, 10:53 AM
You mean there isn't? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

ElAurens
10-03-2009, 10:55 AM
I have to agree with Viikate. (And he should know).

Nothing new about the AI.

Still the same endless rolling, and they are still as stupid as a box of rocks, and will fly into terrain all on their own.

The new content is wonderful though, and my hat is off the Team Daidalos for their efforts.

baronWastelan
10-03-2009, 01:35 PM
Unprecedented firepower in an Italian built fighter.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d63/baronWastelan/0310200912-20-44.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d63/baronWastelan/0310200912-22-19.jpg

DKoor
10-03-2009, 01:35 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

megalopsuche
10-03-2009, 02:07 PM
Haven't played with it that much, but so far I like it. The new quick mission builder is an improvement. I like the maps.

I was never impressed with the AI mod in the first place.

wheelsup_cavu
10-03-2009, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by baronWastelan:
Unprecedented firepower in an Italian built fighter.

http://i33.photobucket.com/alb...0310200912-20-44.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d63/baronWastelan/0310200912-20-44.jpg)

http://i33.photobucket.com/alb...0310200912-22-19.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d63/baronWastelan/0310200912-22-19.jpg)
Very nice BaronWastelan. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


Wheels

DKoor
10-04-2009, 09:27 AM
5mins

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-bc2ae534.html

I want my cookie now!!1!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TinyTim
10-04-2009, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by DKoor:
5mins

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-bc2ae534.html

I want my cookie now!!1!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The claim was for DB, not SB bombers. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Probably even easier as they are slower and bigger.

BillSwagger
10-04-2009, 11:36 AM
AI must be placebo then, but i also haven't done much fighting against the I-15 or I-16s in the QMB context.

It just seemed like they were a bit more manueverable which could be attributed to the aircraft design and not the "smartness" of the AI.
Sorry for sparking that flame, it just seemed that way at the time.
Now that i look at it, they might be slowing down from the negative G effects on the engine, which is something that is not apparent in other craft.


Dont mean to sound like a suck up, but unless i'm mistaken this sort of thing takes a bit of time and the fact that you guys must've spent your free time working (for free) to help improve the game shouldn't go unrecognized.
So.. thanks again for this great patch, and I'm greatful there is a group willing to develop the game and make it cooler for future use.



Bill

wheelsup_cavu
10-04-2009, 12:58 PM
I am liking what I see.
I definitely liked bailing out over an enemy airfield and not having every gun in the area open up on me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Thanks agian Team Daidalos for your work on this patch.


Wheels

Dadio2009
10-05-2009, 07:44 AM
Howdy,
Logged a couple hours on it myself last 2 nights and I like it! It installed easily, and runs at least as well as before!

One item I'm thrilled with, is .. its seemed to have fixed my long standing problem of the mouse cursor locking up when you open the initial menu screen.

This has been logged and complained about on the forums for many moons. With no fix that would work for me. And I for one had it all the time. At every startup I used to have to Cntrl-window back to my desktop and come back in for my cursor to be unlocked so I could interact with the game. This seems to be fixed on two of my computers now! Awesome.

(Though as a software developer, I'm scratching my head as to why, if this was indeed fixed, its not mentioned in the readme. If they fixed it, and they seem to have, then tell us and take all due credit. Unless it was purely by accident. Oh, well, I'm happy that one of my gremlins is gone!)

Klussdog
10-05-2009, 09:31 PM
4.09M is brilliant, just wonderful work of art.......

stalkervision
10-05-2009, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Dadio2009:
Howdy,
Logged a couple hours on it myself last 2 nights and I like it! It installed easily, and runs at least as well as before!

One item I'm thrilled with, is .. its seemed to have fixed my long standing problem of the mouse cursor locking up when you open the initial menu screen.

This has been logged and complained about on the forums for many moons. With no fix that would work for me. And I for one had it all the time. At every startup I used to have to Cntrl-window back to my desktop and come back in for my cursor to be unlocked so I could interact with the game. This seems to be fixed on two of my computers now! Awesome.

(Though as a software developer, I'm scratching my head as to why, if this was indeed fixed, its not mentioned in the readme. If they fixed it, and they seem to have, then tell us and take all due credit. Unless it was purely by accident. Oh, well, I'm happy that one of my gremlins is gone!)

I still get it even now on occasion. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Not as bad thou. I am suspicious my HP computer update program is the culprit this time I believe.

tried to lock it out with process explore but it keeps coming on back. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Ba5tard5word
10-06-2009, 12:54 AM
One item I'm thrilled with, is .. its seemed to have fixed my long standing problem of the mouse cursor locking up when you open the initial menu screen.

I get this only when I click on the Il-2 .exe and then click on something else before it goes to the loadup screen.


Also the MC-205 AI seemed tougher to me but maybe I haven't flown against them enough, they always struck me as lazy before but the other night they were zipping all over the place when they were in my sights.

hathu2009
10-06-2009, 03:13 PM
It works perfectly, the new planes, maps and of course the "scramble!"-function are great..

but: TEH BAR IS OPEN AGAIN.

You know what I mean.. oh, and in this conjunction: the wing area of the Ta-152 C has been corrected. My impression was that this beast now actually can do some maneuvering.. can anybody else confirm?

ElAurens
10-06-2009, 04:58 PM
I did a 1 v 1 last night with me flying the TA 152C, against an ACE Tempest V. Started at 5000 meters and ended up on the deck, as usual. It was a difficult encounter but I finally got the cheating, no blacking out, AI bastage.

The 152C feels more a fighter now and much less a very fast locomotive.

Treetop64
10-06-2009, 07:01 PM
I'm really lovin' this new patch. New planes. No FPS wasted on shooting at parachutes. Much improved QMB. Nice.

Seems Daidalus slipped in a couple of undocumented gifts as well:

> Mip-mapping seems to be better rendered.
> Smooth water edges for ATI users.
> Friendly AI is a bit chattier, particularly if you are not the leader of the mission.
> Slight increase in spawning of random flights in DGen missions - don't know if this is coincidental...

I'm a happy customer.

DKoor
10-06-2009, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
The 152C feels more a fighter now and much less a very fast locomotive. Must be mate since it is 24kph slower than in v4.08 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.
To be more precise Tempest (596kph @ SL) should be around 8kph faster @SL than TA-152C (588kph @ SL) is now...

I've checked out TA-152C speed at SL but I haven't checked Tempest's speed... since they didn't fixed it in no way.

ElAurens
10-06-2009, 07:40 PM
I had great difficulty keeping up with the Tempest, be sure.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

However, I could actually fight in the 152C, which is a rarity for me as generally I very much dislike the late war German aircraft and their reluctance to do anything even remotely like changing direction.

DKoor
10-06-2009, 07:45 PM
Sorry mate, I've made an error, Tempest is not only 8kph faster it is about 22kph faster! I've overlooked my v4.08 speed data, it says 610kph @ SL, which seems to be within fair limits with newly released IL-2 Compares (as is TA-152 with 588kph @ SL value), so I think Tempest didn't received no FM treatments...

FoundryWork
10-06-2009, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
I did a 1 v 1 last night with me flying the TA 152C, against an ACE Tempest V. Started at 5000 meters and ended up on the deck, as usual. It was a difficult encounter but I finally got the cheating, no blacking out, AI bastage.

The 152C feels more a fighter now and much less a very fast locomotive.

If 1 vs 1 encounters are difficult for you against AI, then you must REALLY have a hard time 1 vs 1 against a good human IL2 pilot huh?

I am sorry to hear that......

ElAurens
10-06-2009, 08:37 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

na85
10-06-2009, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by FoundryWork:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
I did a 1 v 1 last night with me flying the TA 152C, against an ACE Tempest V. Started at 5000 meters and ended up on the deck, as usual. It was a difficult encounter but I finally got the cheating, no blacking out, AI bastage.

The 152C feels more a fighter now and much less a very fast locomotive.

If 1 vs 1 encounters are difficult for you against AI, then you must REALLY have a hard time 1 vs 1 against a good human IL2 pilot huh?

I am sorry to hear that...... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stop trolling and kindly stfu.

EJGrOst_Caspar
10-07-2009, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by Treetop64:


Seems Daidalus slipped in a couple of undocumented gifts as well:

> Mip-mapping seems to be better rendered.
> Smooth water edges for ATI users.
> Friendly AI is a bit chattier, particularly if you are not the leader of the mission.
> Slight increase in spawning of random flights in DGen missions - don't know if this is coincidental...

I'm a happy customer.

First two points have rather something to do with DLL's, which weren't part of our (DT) work, but Olegs.
Last two points are not part of 4.09 AFAIK, at least as regarding DT's work. Means, we didn't changed anything there.

I'm glad, that you are happy though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

woofiedog
10-07-2009, 05:09 PM
Really enjoying this new update... extremely Mint work from all that made this possible.

Thank's

JG52Karaya-X
10-08-2009, 03:57 PM
Am I the only one finding the gunners on the Letov S-328 to be the most insanely accurate and cheating bastige rear gunners of all times!?

With their gun mount they can even shoot forward at an angle, and I've not only once had them hit me while racing past them a couple of hundred meters to their side and at 500+ km/h

Seriously, you think all previous IL-2 gunners have been bad? Now these are BAAAAAAAD!

stalkervision
10-08-2009, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by woofiedog:
Really enjoying this new update... extremely Mint work from all that made this possible.

Thank's

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/Picture027-3.jpg

in Korea a plump juicy dog is considered a delicacy.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


Glad to see you back woofie. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Red_Cat_Joe
10-08-2009, 06:55 PM
I've searched all over Ubi's site and can't find 4.09! Where can I get it!? Thanks Red_Cat_Joe

Wildnoob
10-08-2009, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Red_Cat_Joe:
I've searched all over Ubi's site and can't find 4.09! Where can I get it!? Thanks Red_Cat_Joe

4.09m English/International version - Torrent:
http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=3760

4.09 English/International version:
http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=3764
http://www.myotherdrive.com/dy...7612.6a64fi/409m.exe
http://www.jgzbv.de/downloads/409m.exe
http://www.preservingfidelitysquad.nl/_div/409m.exe
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/409m.exe
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/409m.exe
http://www.diavolirossi.net/it...load=13%3Apatch-4.09


4.09 Russian version:
http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=3763
www.jgzbv.de/downloads/409m_ru.exe (http://www.jgzbv.de/downloads/409m_ru.exe)
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/409m_ru.exe
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/409m_ru.exe
http://www.freccetricolorivirt...ad=5%3A4.09m-russian


4.09 Dedicated Server:
http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=3762
http://www.myotherdrive.com/dy...a65fi/server409m.exe
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/server409m.exe
http://www.diavolirossi.net/it...oad=15%3A4.09-server


New Default skins - skins409m.exe:
http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=3761
http://www.myotherdrive.com/dy...6a65fi/skins409m.exe
http://www.jgzbv.de/downloads/skins409m.exe
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/skins409m.exe
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/skins409m.exe
http://www.diavolirossi.net/it...4%3Apatch-4.09-skins



4.09 PDF Guide:
http://www.virtualfightersquadrons.com/files?did=13
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/4.09_Guide.pdf
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/4.09_Guide.pdf



4.09 Readme:
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/Readme_409m.rtf
http://by.sturmovik.de/Daidalo...m/Readme_409m_DE.rtf
http://by.sturmovik.de/Daidalo...m/Readme_409m_FR.rtf
http://by.sturmovik.de/Daidalo...m/Readme_409m_RU.rtf

http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/Readme_409m.rtf
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/Readme_409m_DE.rtf
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/Readme_409m_FR.rtf
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/Readme_409m_RU.rtf

Guess here's all the stuff, even the Russian. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Credits to jurinko.

But I highly recommend Mission4today Torrent, as you can download in a few minutes, instead of usually hours with the conventional others.

Wildnoob
10-08-2009, 08:33 PM
Folks, I'd like to ask something to you please.

Didn't change any of my fligth controls or anything, but seems the torque in take off is less in 4.09 to me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

In 4.08 I always take off skidding, but now this seems to be reduced with some significance.

For instance, now I manage to take off falling 2, 3 or sometimes being careful already was able with not a single degree of skid!

There's nothing specified about any changes about this as far as I read, but somehow I'm still pretty curious.

Probably must be just impression of mine, but can't let to ask. Anyone also notice some more gently take off torque behavior?

JG52_wunsch
10-08-2009, 08:53 PM
great patch.a big thank you to team daidalos. it's fun to fly again. cheers!

rr9
10-09-2009, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by JG52Karaya-X:
Am I the only one finding the gunners on the Letov S-328 to be the most insanely accurate and cheating bastige rear gunners of all times!?

With their gun mount they can even shoot forward at an angle, and I've not only once had them hit me while racing past them a couple of hundred meters to their side and at 500+ km/h


I've also noticed this. I don't think they should be nearly so accurate against planes quickly passing by.

Insuber
10-11-2009, 08:36 AM
Great job Daidalos Team and Oleg Maddox. I'm enjoying all the new stuff. I will appreciate thou a few words of Da Man himself about this patch.

Regards,
Insuber

tomco1965
10-12-2009, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
I had great difficulty keeping up with the Tempest, be sure.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

However, I could actually fight in the 152C, which is a rarity for me as generally I very much dislike the late war German aircraft and their reluctance to do anything even remotely like changing direction.

You don't have to keep up with AceAI Tempests, try this:http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=4efb613b8bb835ba6b21be4093fab7ac4f073ac6 f8eef00b4d71ee60c1ce7296

Sillius_Sodus
10-12-2009, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Wildnoob:
Folks, I'd like to ask something to you please.

Didn't change any of my fligth controls or anything, but seems the torque in take off is less in 4.09 to me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

In 4.08 I always take off skidding, but now this seems to be reduced with some significance.

For instance, now I manage to take off falling 2, 3 or sometimes being careful already was able with not a single degree of skid!

There's nothing specified about any changes about this as far as I read, but somehow I'm still pretty curious.

Probably must be just impression of mine, but can't let to ask. Anyone also notice some more gently take off torque behavior?

Interesting Wildnoob, I've noticed this too. Another weird thing is that the elevator trim controls are reversed, i.e, what used to be nose up trim now feeds in nose down trim. No big deal though, it doesn't take long at all to fix.

I'm happy with 4.09, nice work TD! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Unknown-Pilot
10-12-2009, 07:08 PM
I'd be enjoying it much more if there were actually some volume of 4.09m servers on HL. Doubly so if they were using the new planes.

Quadruply so if they actually were IL2 1946 servers - we all bought the game for a reason.

And don't even get me started on the hardware biggots (falsely calling padlock "radar" because they simply want a better advantage with their damned track IR over those of us who don't/won't use it).

But anyway.... other than that, it's awesome. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PanzerAce
10-13-2009, 05:46 AM
I too wish there were some 4.09 servers. the problem is that they all seem to be waiting for the AAA UI1.2 or something for the mods...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

MatoKKK
10-15-2009, 07:08 AM
Guys, regarding Letov's gunner, please read the 4.09 Guide. We are aware of the deadly accuracy. We hope to reduce it with a more complex AI development we have in our pipeline. So we let it be the way it is in 4.09.

The Letov's rear gun mount movement and RoF of the MGs is historically accurate. It was so flexible in real life. Unfortunatelly the sim's AI gunners are too accurate right now which is a deadly combination with Letov.

Thanks. Enjoy the patch. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Martin
Daidalos Team

Razor1uk-LMC01
10-17-2009, 10:25 AM
Are there any 'fresh' of newer 4.09m (english) links, all of M4T's mirrors are missing or corrupt. Most of the other links don't link or fail to page-load for me; never a problem before for me.

Any ideas aanyone?

Thanks

Razor1uk

Razor1uk-LMC01
11-20-2009, 11:38 AM
Its ok now, I found a link that worked, and have had no problems at all after installing, running/playing/flying or pc crashing with 409m on my laptop.
Aside from the niggles suffered by all due to slight differences/improvements/refinements over time spent being used to earlier patches.

As Others and I have said in this and other threads, Thank You Team Deidalos & IC Madox

SterlingX
11-20-2009, 12:24 PM
Maps load slower, starts hiccuping after 30mins then freezing for longer periods and more frequently and then it crashes altogether. I also got the windows message about running out of virtual memory and needing to enlarge it, once. It seems like it manages to slowly eat up all the available RAM. Buggy.

rettungferris
11-20-2009, 04:05 PM
I love an thank Team D for the effort Oleg to review.


I hate how online server admins are evil like cobra commander to go destro on 4.09, what do they know? And Hyperlobby its a no go GI Joe.

4.09 online is flat lined, Mujahideen facing the Hind, old and busted is now crusted new hotness fall of IL-2 witness, modding outta mind. Shut the door, if you be so kind.



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some 4.09m downloads are corrupt, I found some that are lower in size than the normal 566 mb.


And one of the corrupted ones lead to memory issues.

But the correct 4.09m works fine and I have one of the oldest machines on the planet (P4 single core).