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Fish6891
10-24-2005, 03:40 AM
I'm no expert on this, but I'm under the impression that MW50 was meant to provide a boost in low altitude performance and that it in fact hampered performance at higher altitudes.

Is this accurate as is it modelled in the sim?

When flying the Ta-152H1 for example, should one have the MW50 activated upon take-off, and then have it deactivated upon reaching a certain altitude (somewhere around 7.5km?), and then have the GM1 activated upon reaching 9000m?

Another thing I also wonder about is "Erhote Notleistung". Is it effective at all altitudes? I know MW50 is suppose to be a more effective method of boost at lower altitudes, and that "E.N." is better at somewhat higher altitudes but thats about all I know.

Personally, I'm using whatever boost is available to me at any alt, now I'm just wondering if this is a mistake http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

AFJ_rsm
10-24-2005, 05:59 AM
yes.
mistake

I turn MW50 off at 6km more or less.

Kwiatos
10-24-2005, 06:06 AM
As i know Mw-50 in RL could be used from low to medium alt probably until 5-6 km. Dont know if using Mw50 above these alt cause broke engine or are just noneffective. Above 6 km german used GM-1 which couldnt be used lower beacuse broke enigne.

JG53Frankyboy
10-24-2005, 06:24 AM
MW50 could be used till the full throttle altitude of the engine.
above that, the supercharger couldnt deliver enough oxygen to mantain these higher mainfold pressures when running in "Sondernotleistung" mode.

above full throttle alt the GM1 system came in:
it replaced the "missiing" oxygen so that the engine could run with its "full throttle altitude" much longer/higher.

the point of german engine development was to put the full throttle alt higher - so that the MW50 could be used much longer/at higher alt. like in the Ta152 with its two stage supercharger engine Jumo 213E.

so, the MW50 should not give any extra power above the specific full throttle altitudes of the specific planes . i dodnt know if it works this way in the game. never tested it.
first we would have to know on wich altitudes the different Db605 engines in game are rated http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JG52-6High
10-24-2005, 07:35 AM
Alt < 6000m use MW 50
Alt > 9000m use GM 1

between 6000m and 9000m use no boost.

Greetings

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p1ngu666
10-24-2005, 07:52 AM
so is like girls, if there high, u dont need to worry about alchol? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

neural_dream
10-24-2005, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
so is like girls, if there high, u dont need to worry about alchol? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

KGr.HH-Sunburst
10-24-2005, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
so is like girls, if there high, u dont need to worry about alchol? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

WTF, how come they still suck me dry all the time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

whats ur secret ping?

DmdSeeker
10-24-2005, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by KGr.HH-Sunburst:

WTF, how come they still suck me dry all the time

whats ur secret ping?

What's yours!?!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jumoschwanz
10-24-2005, 12:03 PM
There is one variation of 109E that has nitrous injection, and if you engage it at under around 4700M alt you will blow the engine. Likewise, the boost on the 190F, is for use only below around 1200m alt.
In the last roughly four years of flying this sim, the only time I have broke the engines of the common 109 variants is to engauge boost while on full or high throttle settings. To work around this I simply snap the throttle off, hit the boost switch/button and then snap the throttle back on. This will keep the engine singing happily.

Aside from the two obscure variants I listed, I have always used the boost at any altitude where I needed extra power, and it has delivered it. Usually I will use it if I am in a hurry for takeoff. Then the only time I will use it is in the heat of battle to get back altitude, or when I need an edge in a hard dogfight. But if used for long, it will overheat and ruin the engine. So learn not to depend on it.

Jumoschwanz

JG53Frankyboy
10-24-2005, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Jumoschwanz:
There is one variation of 109E that has nitrous injection, and if you engage it at under around 4700M alt you will blow the engine. .........

if you engage the GM1 "boost" in the Bf109E-7/Z below 6000m you kill your engine.

furtnatly the weight of the GM1 systems seemes not to be moddeled http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
so, its the best performing 109E and it fakes wonderfull a Bf109E-7/N http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
10-24-2005, 12:39 PM
im pretty dire with girls, so ur in the box seats by simply not being me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Fish6891
10-30-2005, 05:24 PM
What about "Erhote Notleistung"?