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Wildnoob
01-07-2009, 02:13 PM
hello great pilot's!

long time since I had flow an BF-109 from E series, and today I do it. I don't know, I had difficult to set the slip ball centered, and I have a excellent Saitek pro fligth rudder pedals. but after some training I manage. and I'm talking about hands of fligth. I like to fly hands off and trimmed correctly because I can look the map, I can move around the cockpit and give some rest to my hands during cruize fligth.

seems do me that the E series have more torque then the G and K ones. this is against the phisic, but is wat looks to me.

and with you fellow pilot's, do you notice the same as me ?

now this would be more complex, I just ask to just post this info if you know it in mind, but anyone know the opinion of real BF-109 pilot's about this ?

Wildnoob
01-07-2009, 02:13 PM
hello great pilot's!

long time since I had flow an BF-109 from E series, and today I do it. I don't know, I had difficult to set the slip ball centered, and I have a excellent Saitek pro fligth rudder pedals. but after some training I manage. and I'm talking about hands of fligth. I like to fly hands off and trimmed correctly because I can look the map, I can move around the cockpit and give some rest to my hands during cruize fligth.

seems do me that the E series have more torque then the G and K ones. this is against the phisic, but is wat looks to me.

and with you fellow pilot's, do you notice the same as me ?

now this would be more complex, I just ask to just post this info if you know it in mind, but anyone know the opinion of real BF-109 pilot's about this ?

K_Freddie
01-07-2009, 02:41 PM
While fine tuning the slip and bank indicator is good for MSoft sim, and general cruising in IL2, it means nothing when in actual IL2 combat...

I thought I'd mention this leeelte titbit.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

With regard to torque... the more, the better I feel.. just luv the stuff.
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Wildnoob
01-07-2009, 02:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by K_Freddie:
While fine tuning the slip and bank indicator is good for MSoft sim, and general cruising in IL2, it means nothing when in actual IL2 combat...

I thought I'd mention this leeelte titbit.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thanks for your reply buddy!

I'm a bite perfeccionist with fligth instruments. must be impression from my part. thougth is the same aircraft is in a drastic difference compare an E series model to the G witch I usually flow. handling of course is not the same. but I are better in flying the E and maybe was just my impression. I act a bite impulsive by came here to cry about this, but really thanks to you and everybody else who may posted in this idiot topic.

my English is horrible, I would like to apologize for that.

b2spirita
01-07-2009, 03:29 PM
I dont think you have any need to apologise mate and to be honest, your english is pretty good.

To answer your question, i havent noticed a big difference within the versions but then i dont fly the 109s a great deal. Maybe just more practice - i think form your previous posts that you fly to a higher standrd than most, so it might just be that.

FoolTrottel
01-07-2009, 03:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">my English is horrible, I would like to apologize for that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif No need to do that. It's not horrible...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">(...) this idiot topic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's not. Because, if it were, it would've been moved already... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

As for your topic: I do 'fly' 109's from time to time, E's and F's and some others...
Can't say I feel a difference in torque between them... -but that might be me, or my home-built-rudder-pedals-with-hals-sensor-and-right-pedal-brake-action- ... they all do fly really nice, especially the F2.

Then again, do try to be too much a perfectionist on instruments... the instruments themselves, in WW2, were far from perfect...


Have Fun!

Wildnoob
01-07-2009, 03:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by b2spirita:
I dont think you have any need to apologise mate and to be honest, your english is pretty good.

To answer your question, i havent noticed a big difference within the versions but then i dont fly the 109s a great deal. Maybe just more practice - i think form your previous posts that you fly to a higher standrd than most, so it might just be that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thank you very much for your reply!

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I belive they are really very similary in handling. it was just take some training and the pilot is capable of fly it. and maybe even not training is necessary. I say that because I'm very n00b.


it was a very precipited action from my part had came here creat a topic about this. if you guys think that this topic is useless I would like to ask the moderators to delet it.

and thank very much, really very much for the pacient that you guys have with me.

Wildnoob
01-07-2009, 03:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by b2spirita:
I dont think you have any need to apologise mate and to be honest, your english is pretty good. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

really buddy ?

thank you very much too!

but I need to improve it much more. when I started to post here was the first time that I participate in a english forum like this one. and how I learn and are learning about this language with you guys.

but I gonna try always be trying improve my english to try let it more clear for everybody here.

Wildnoob
01-07-2009, 03:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FoolTrottel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">my English is horrible, I would like to apologize for that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif No need to do that. It's not horrible...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">(...) this idiot topic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's not. Because, if it were, it would've been moved already... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

As for your topic: I do 'fly' 109's from time to time, E's and F's and some others...
Can't say I feel a difference in torque between them... -but that might be me, or my home-built-rudder-pedals-with-hals-sensor-and-right-pedal-brake-action- ... they all do fly really nice, especially the F2.

Then again, do try to be too much a perfectionist on instruments... the instruments themselves, in WW2, were far from perfect...


Have Fun! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thank you very much for you also FT!

long time no see you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

you guys are among my best friends. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

K_Freddie
01-07-2009, 04:04 PM
It's really no problem old sport... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
As we're an international community, we all understand 'your english' (although I'd like to understand every other language, especially Russian)...

What I 'wish to say' is that when you are in a combat you do not pay much attention to the 'Slip and Bank' indicator...

So in a way it's not that important, compared to the 'feel of the aircraft' .. Hope you understand my idea..
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Wildnoob
01-07-2009, 04:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by K_Freddie:
It's really no problem old sport... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
As we're an international community, we all understand 'your english' (although I'd like to understand every other language, especially Russian)...

What I 'wish to say' is that when you are in a combat you do not pay much attention to the 'Slip and Bank' indicator...

So in a way it's not that important, compared to the 'feel of the aircraft' .. Hope you understand my idea..
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I perfectly understand, really thanks K_Freddie! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

stalkervision
01-07-2009, 04:40 PM
Historically the 109 was in trim at it's cruising speed whatever that is for the 109 e. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif