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budvar62
01-20-2005, 06:45 AM
Hi all,

Stuck at work so can't check in the game for a few hours but have just read an article from fleet air arm website that says 200 F4U - C's were delivered to UK armed with 4 x 20mm rather than 6 x 0.5's

I know the Brit Corsair C's are in the game but hadn't tried one - are they 20mm equipped?

Anyone know anything about this variant - seems to me it would be like the Hurri C on steroids and about as lethal as Darth Vaders personal tie fighter...

Heavy_Weather
01-20-2005, 06:51 AM
yesir, and she's an evil beast. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

VW-IceFire
01-20-2005, 06:53 AM
No FAA Corsairs with 20mm...just the 6 .50cal loadout on Mark I, II, and IV.

But the F4U-1C is close enough...

budvar62
01-20-2005, 07:02 AM
Sorry to be dense chaps - seemed to get a yes and a no there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Are any of the in game variants equipped with 20mm's? Heavy-weather - are you saying the real life machine was an evil beast or there is one in the game? Ice-fire - are you saying the F4u-c (American bird) is 20mm equipped but not the Corsair? **** this working for a living - need to go home and play - right now!

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-20-2005, 07:09 AM
The F4U-1C (American bird as you say) is equipped with 4x 20mm cannon...and it is a "beast" to fly against. All of the British variants (MkI, II, IV) are all .50 equipped.

Hope this helps.



TB

budvar62
01-20-2005, 07:14 AM
Cheers everyone for your quick responses. Bow I really need to get out of this bloody office and into some quality leisure time!!!

By the way - anyone know why "D4mn!" is censored and "bloody" isn't - even though they are equally blasphemous in their origin? Is "d4mn" considered to be an exceptionally rude word in the US? Hope not because I've been there half a dozen times and probably inadvertently offended folk left right and centre if it is...

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-20-2005, 07:20 AM
Nah...it's not that bad, but some "politically-sensitive" organizations play it safe anyway to appeal to the conservative right-wingers.

Even my more eloquent dialog can frequently include much worse. I don't care if it IS a sign of a weak vocabulary.

TB

budvar62
01-20-2005, 07:26 AM
Cheers TB,

Hate the thought of offending through ignorance (as opposed to deliberately offending - mmm - maybe that didn't come out as I planned)

voyager_663rd
01-20-2005, 09:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by voyager_663rd:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
The F4U-1C (American bird as you say) is equipped with 4x 20mm cannon...and it is a "beast" to fly _against_. All of the British variants (MkI, II, IV) are all .50 equipped.

Hope this helps.



TB <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Mark III was the Brewster-mfg'd version of the Vought 1D. No cannons.

WOLFMondo
01-20-2005, 09:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Budvar62:
Cheers everyone for your quick responses. Bow I really need to get out of this bloody office and into some quality leisure time!!!

By the way - anyone know why "D4mn!" is censored and "bloody" isn't - even though they are equally blasphemous in their origin? Is "d4mn" considered to be an exceptionally rude word in the US? Hope not because I've been there half a dozen times and probably inadvertently offended folk left right and centre if it is... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ubi's French and I think this forum is hosted in the UK...

budvar62
01-20-2005, 09:54 AM
Hmm! Well I'm British and I work for a French company and I've never met anyone offended by "d4mn" so I'm d4mned if I know what all the d4mn fuss is about. However it's now hometime so I'm getting out of the d4mn office and I'm off to play with a hispano armed f4 - fan-bloody-tastic!

FI-Aflak
01-20-2005, 12:26 PM
careful though, you run out of shells quick.

I prefer the .50's for dealing with fighters.

But when you have a big fish to fry, the 20's are veeeery nice.

Thing is, it is MUCH MUCH easier to land a dozen or so .50 hits than a single 20mm hit, and once you do that your opponent is probably suffering from some major performance-decreasing wounds, be it engine trouble, wing drop, dead or shot up control surfaces, pilot wounds, etc.

eXtra_Corrosiv
01-21-2005, 12:12 AM
it's because d4mn in short for d4mnation which is biblically a bad thing. bloody is just plain silly. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

budvar62
01-21-2005, 07:00 AM
Just a couple of things to add; first off, in case you didn't know, bloody comes from bloody hell, which is an english shortening of the original curse (God's blood in hell) and as such is technically one of the most blasphemous curses there is http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
Of course the origins are lost in time, like my teenage years, but I guess in the eyes of the god of at least 3 major religions on the planet, that might not be much of an excuse...

Secondly, and much more relevently for this forum, tried out that F4U-C last night - pretty nice bird - as you say, ammo limited, and not quite as stable a platform but certainly packs some punch, and a lot faster that the hurri! I tried it out against a Condor (it was supposed to have been used by the Fleet Air Arm after all) and also an H111z in QMB. Also managed to do something I've never managed before, which was to cut the Zwilling in half and left one half still flying while it's surviving crew bailed out. Dunno if anyone else has managed this, but if you have, take a look at the damage model. The tail wheel on the missing fuselage stays in place and flies in perfect formation with the surviving half of the aircraft http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Saved the track so will try and post a screenshot next week - away to Glasgae tonight to have a weekend of low level attack practise on some 80 shilling!

Platypus_1.JaVA
01-21-2005, 09:23 AM
you don't need those 20mm's with the jap planes anyways.

73GIAP_Milan
01-21-2005, 02:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Budvar62:
Just a couple of things to add; first off, in case you didn't know, bloody comes from bloody hell, which is an english shortening of the original curse (God's blood in hell) and as such is technically one of the most blasphemous curses there is http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
Of course the origins are lost in time, like my teenage years, but I guess in the eyes of the god of at least 3 major religions on the planet, that might not be much of an excuse...

Secondly, and much more relevently for this forum, tried out that F4U-C last night - pretty nice bird - as you say, ammo limited, and not quite as stable a platform but certainly packs some punch, and a lot faster that the hurri! I tried it out against a Condor (it was supposed to have been used by the Fleet Air Arm after all) and also an H111z in QMB. Also managed to do something I've never managed before, which was to cut the Zwilling in half and left one half still flying while it's surviving crew bailed out. Dunno if anyone else has managed this, but if you have, take a look at the damage model. The tail wheel on the missing fuselage stays in place and flies in perfect formation with the surviving half of the aircraft http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Saved the track so will try and post a screenshot next week - away to Glasgae tonight to have a weekend of low level attack practise on some 80 shilling! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://members.chello.nl/j.wisseborn2/il2bug.jpg

You mean this little bug that's been in the Heinkel Zwilling since IL2 Sturmovik ?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

This is one of the most oddlooking bugs ingame. The first time i saw it, i had to look 3 times before i recognised a tailwheel http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Blackdog5555
01-21-2005, 09:23 PM
Bloody tough little wheel!

VMF-214_HaVoK
01-23-2005, 07:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FI-Aflak:
careful though, you run out of shells quick.

I prefer the .50's for dealing with fighters.

But when you have a big fish to fry, the 20's are veeeery nice.

Thing is, it is MUCH MUCH easier to land a dozen or so .50 hits than a single 20mm hit, and once you do that your opponent is probably suffering from some major performance-decreasing wounds, be it engine trouble, wing drop, dead or shot up control surfaces, pilot wounds, etc. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats odd. you really think the C runs out of ammo quickly. I not to sure about the numbers but Im gonna guess it has as much if not more 20mm shells then any fighter in the game. I have gotten upto 10 kills in one flight with the C and average about 5. Im not boasting just curious to why you think that.

VMF-214_HaVoK
01-23-2005, 07:54 PM
Milan,
Whats up with the water in your screen? I have never seen it look quite like that before in any mode.

Vipez-
01-24-2005, 03:23 AM
That loooks like water from old IL-2... the picture is from old IL-2 / FB ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

73GIAP_Milan
01-24-2005, 02:09 PM
Indeed guys, i had this pic on my disk for a loooonnggg time - it's from the original IL2 Sturmovik.

and i'm still a frequent IL2 Sturmovik flier, as Forgotten Battles barely runs on my system..

gotto admit FB is waaayy better though ^^
Still that water in old il2 looks great to me..

I posted that pic because the tailwheel bug is still in the current FB/AEP/PF http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif