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SlickStick
10-10-2007, 02:45 PM
As there are only a few flight-worthy Spitfire Trainers left in the world, I've heard that they are all in Europe. Do you have any direct information that any of them offer civilain flights?

I'm planning a trip to Europe next year and I was hoping to possibly be able to take a ride in one of these rare Spitfires. I've always loved the plane and it would be quite an experience to be able to actually fly in one. Plus, I have a couple of online m8s that I want to look up in the UK anyway.

This will be my first trip to Europe to visit my ancestor's homeland of Netherlands and I am planning on seeing Normandy, as well as some sites in Germany.

I would love to be able to bring back some pictures of a ride in a Spitfire. Is this possible? Thanks for any information.

polak5
10-10-2007, 02:55 PM
I do not know exactly where you live but there is a 2 seater in Galveston, Texas. They might give rides in it, I know they give rides on some of the other aircraft they have available.
But if your going to make the trip to UK id do it over there, nothing like flying over the channel http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Banger2004
10-10-2007, 02:57 PM
Hi SlickStick,

Couple of links for you, but not sure they are very much help:

http://www.flights4all.com/about_spitfires.asp

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=235003&highlight=spitfire

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=2+Seater+Spitfir...ountryUK%7CcountryGB (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=2+Seater+Spitfires&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB)

Ok, I know it that is 3 links, but you can never have too many. Good luck, and if you do get a ride, do not come here bragging about it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

SlickStick
10-10-2007, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by polak5:
I do not know exactly where you live but there is a 2 seater in Galveston, Texas. They might give rides in it, I know they give rides on some of the other aircraft they have available.
But if your going to make the trip to UK id do it over there, nothing like flying over the channel http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I did not know there was one in Texas. I had read that they were all in Europe and figured since I was planning going there anyways, I'd see if it was a viable solution.

Wow, Texas, eh? I could visit Da Boyz at the same time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Do you know which trainer by FCC ID is in TX or have a link to a site? Is it PT 462 by chance?

SlickStick
10-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Banger2004:
Hi SlickStick,

Couple of links for you, but not sure they are very much help:

http://www.flights4all.com/about_spitfires.asp

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=235003&highlight=spitfire

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=2+Seater+Spitfir...ountryUK%7CcountryGB (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=2+Seater+Spitfires&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB)

Ok, I know it that is 3 links, but you can never have too many. Good luck, and if you do get a ride, do not come here bragging about it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Thanks, Banger ol' boy! I will peruse them later at home. No bragging, but bet your best pair of knickers, I'll be posting as many pictures as my camera can hold! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Sharpe26
10-10-2007, 03:05 PM
what part of the Netherlands are you gonna be visiting, Slick?

SlickStick
10-10-2007, 03:06 PM
Got this from one of those links:

"CAN I ARRANGE A FLIGHT IN A SPITFIRE?
There is only a handful of 2-seater Spitfires in the world, and just three of these are flying in the UK. In addition, to be able to offer trial lessons, any aircraft must have a public category licence, and the instructor too must be licensed to take paying passengers. Presently these two conditions are not met for any Spitfire in the UK. So, unfortunately, the chances of arranging a flight in a Spitfire are pretty slim."

However, I also found that there are 3 or 4 here in the USA and one of them is a Mk. VIII trainer in Oregon! I need to read more.

Now, if it takes passengers, how do I convince my family that a trip to Oregon would be as great a vacation as going to Europe?!?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

SlickStick
10-10-2007, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Sharpe26:
what part of the Netherlands are you gonna be visiting, Slick?

I'm still planning and speaking with my aunt about our family tree, my dad's side of the family is from just outside of Amsterdam and my mom's side is from Rotterdam. So, I'm mostly Dutch and coupled with my Algonquin heritage on my paternal grandmother's side, my family tree goes pretty far back here in America and the Netherlands.

Although, I am only 2nd generation American on my dad's paternal side. My grandfather came to America through Ellis Island in 1918 and my dad was born here in 1926.

Xiolablu3
10-10-2007, 03:12 PM
There is that 2 seater Spitfire, I think its called the 'Grace' SPitfire.

Dont know if its possible to buy a ride in it.


I strongly suggest you come in summertime. Winter and Autumn (From October to March) can be grim and grey and very wet.

I suspect the weather here is very much like North New York in the USA (its about the same position relative to the equator as the UK), so if you can, come when the whther is warmer and clear, preferabley early Mid April to late August if you want T-shirt weather.

SlickStick
10-10-2007, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
There is that 2 seater Spitfire, I think its called the 'Grace' SPitfire.

Dont know if its possible to buy a ride in it.


I strongly suggest you come in summertime. Winter and Autumn (From October to March) can be grim and grey and very wet.

I suspect the weather hear is very much like North New York in the USA, so if you can, come when the whther is warmer and clear, preferabley early Mid April to late August if you want T-shirt weather.

Thanks for the tips! We were actually planning a late-April, early May trip. I'm hoping for three weeks, but it may be only two. I will have to squeeze alot in. Good thing Europe has such an excellent mass transit system. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Banger2004
10-10-2007, 03:15 PM
Near the bottom of the page:

http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/spitaw.htm

I had no idea you fellows had so many of our thoroughbreds!

SlickStick
10-10-2007, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Banger2004:
Near the bottom of the page:

http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/spitaw.htm

I had no idea you fellows had so many of our thoroughbreds!

Yes, that's the link I was referring to.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5809/mkviiitraineroy9.jpg

Getting a ride in a Spitfire trainer would truly be awesome...but, if it is also a Mk. VIII.....oh my....um, with all this excitement I have to run to the loo for a sec.....brb.

Now, where did I put those tweezers and magnifying glass?!? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

paddy06
10-10-2007, 03:23 PM
Well, if you are going to visit Holland there aren't that may aircraft-related museums around. The best ones are the Aviodrome http://www.aviodrome.nl/english/
where you can also book a sight-seeing flight. What about a splash-and-go in a Catalina!! It will set you back a couple of bucks but i'm sure it will we the worth the thrill!

The other aircraft museum is the Dutch military airforce museum http://www.militaireluchtvaartmuseum.nl/index.html
I don't think there is an English translation on this site. If you need any help let me know.

Best regards,
Patrick

SlickStick
10-10-2007, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by paddy06:
Well, if you are going to visit Holland there aren't that may aircraft-related museums around. The best ones are the Aviodrome http://www.aviodrome.nl/english/
where you can also book a sight-seeing flight. What about a splash-and-go in a Catalina!! It will set you back a couple of bucks but i'm sure it will we the worth the thrill!

The other aircraft museum is the Dutch military airforce museum http://www.militaireluchtvaartmuseum.nl/index.html
I don't think there is an English translation on this site. If you need any help let me know.

Best regards,
Patrick

Much obliged for the help. I shall indeed look into them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Xiolablu3
10-10-2007, 03:25 PM
Oh my GOD!!!

Read the History of this MkVb :


AB910 - Mk.Vb Battle of Britain Memorial Flight,
RAF Coningsby, Lincolnshire, UK.
Built a Castle Bromwich in 1941 and delivered to 222 sqn on August 22nd that year at North Weald. It subsequently served with 130 Sqn, 133 (Eagle) Sqn at Biggin Hill, 242 Sqn, 416 Sqn (RCAF), no 3501 Support Unit, 402 Sqn (RCAF), 53 OTU at Hibaldstow (famously took-off with WAAF ground-crew fitter(Margaret) on the tail & landed one circuit later with her still clinging to the tail.)

LOL!

MB_Avro_UK
10-10-2007, 03:31 PM
Hi,

Going from memory here but I think that the only 2 seat Spitfire available for hire in the UK is the 'Grace' Spit mentioned in one of the links.

The first problem is that I think its booked ahead for at least the next year. The second problem is that it costs about $4k for a flight.

The pilot does not have a CPL so flights are not profit making but cover running costs.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

polak5
10-10-2007, 03:54 PM
Sorry I was mistaken the spitfire in Galveston is a single seat. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

R_Target
10-10-2007, 04:13 PM
This one was in western New York back in July and was most definitely a fly-in, as nothing that rare would be based at Geneseo. Maybe you can track it by the number?

http://i22.tinypic.com/2niba69.jpg

B16Enk
10-10-2007, 04:26 PM
Hi SlickStick M8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

There is a two Seater, a T9 in fact, based at Duxford here in Cambridgeshire.

I had the pleasure of filming a 2* USAAF General getting a ride in it.

The cost I am told is 2,500, but you do get to loop in it as I saw.

The pilot, 'Rats' Ratcliffe is on record as saying that the Airframe fitters remark that they are good at bending metal, but can't bend it any where near the way pilots can.

His office is an Airbus....

I can provide you with more details if you wish!

MB_Avro_UK
10-10-2007, 04:30 PM
Hi SlickSick,

IIRC all the 2 seat Spits were made by the Irish Air Force after WW2.There were no RAF 2 seaters in WW2.

This doesn't help of course in your quest... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

SlickStick
10-10-2007, 05:19 PM
Yikes, those are some steep prices! I was hoping it was along the lines of a Texan ride here in the states, which is only in the hundreds of dollars range or so.

Methinks, I better set my WWII flying sights a bit lower or I'll have to leave the family home for this European vacation. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Hmmmm....http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Thanks to all for the help and links though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

B16Enk
10-10-2007, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
Hi SlickSick,

IIRC all the 2 seat Spits were made by the Irish Air Force after WW2.There were no RAF 2 seaters in WW2.

This doesn't help of course in your quest... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

http://www.arc-duxford.co.uk/spitTix.htm

'For the Irish Airforce' - spot on m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

But some were built by Vickers for the Dutch too, in 1948.

Now Dutch owned, and as the Dutch bought three she's painted up Dutch too.

Either way it's a beaut.
I posted up a Merlin start up sound clip a while back, and this is H98/161/PV202/"Grace" Start Up, Taxi and Take Off.wav (http://www.honorourveterans.com/files/spit_start_taxi_takeoff.wav) High quality, recorded on a 14k+ broadcast camera, I think the mic alone cost 700. Un edited, just as it came off the camera.

It's 20Mb in size and a Wav file.

B16Enk
10-10-2007, 05:47 PM
oh, and for the patient types..there's a fly by too that preceded (immediately) the loop.

SlickStick
10-10-2007, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by R_Target:
This one was in western New York back in July and was most definitely a fly-in, as nothing that rare would be based at Geneseo. Maybe you can track it by the number?

http://i22.tinypic.com/2niba69.jpg

Nice pic, Mr. Target. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

SlickStick
10-10-2007, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by B16Enk:
http://www.honorourveterans.com/files/spit_start_taxi_takeoff.wav

Wow, that must be ona fast server, B16Enk. This was my download speed:

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/662/wowdlcx3.jpg


http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8016/homerm6sv3.gif

B16Enk
10-11-2007, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by SlickStick:

Wow, that must be ona fast server, B16Enk. This was my download speed:


Wow, that is good.
I have 1,000GB of storage and Unlimited Bandwidth per month on it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif - thought it was 300Gb and 3,000 Gb repectively but they ahve upgraded it!

Hostgator is the company, pretty good, support can get a little flaky at times..

Whoops typo!

BaldieJr
10-11-2007, 02:37 AM
i had a good experience with hostgator. justa fyi