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huggy87
04-20-2004, 09:21 PM
Any good?

In case you don't know, they are the series of WW2 aircraft/aircrew books published by Osprey. For example, P-40 aces of the CBI, BF-109 of North Africa, 8th Air Force Mustang aces, etc. There must be 30-something of them. Are they decent references? They look kind of skimpy. I was just wondering if they were worth spending the clams.

huggy87
04-20-2004, 09:21 PM
Any good?

In case you don't know, they are the series of WW2 aircraft/aircrew books published by Osprey. For example, P-40 aces of the CBI, BF-109 of North Africa, 8th Air Force Mustang aces, etc. There must be 30-something of them. Are they decent references? They look kind of skimpy. I was just wondering if they were worth spending the clams.

FatBoyHK
04-20-2004, 09:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
Any good?

In case you don't know, they are the series of WW2 aircraft/aircrew books published by Osprey. For example, P-40 aces of the CBI, BF-109 of North Africa, 8th Air Force Mustang aces, etc. There must be 30-something of them. Are they decent references? They look kind of skimpy. I was just wondering if they were worth spending the clams.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I have 10+ of them, and still buying. Some of them are so-so, but some of them are simply excellent http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bearcat99
04-20-2004, 10:31 PM
Osprey (http://www.ospreypublishing.com/) I have quite a few myself. I like them. They are a bit pricey but I like them still.

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chunkylovepony
04-20-2004, 11:05 PM
Dont they do some model airplane how-to books?

So what if its slow and it can't climb for crap... http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/chunkylovepony/new_p40.jpg

bhunter2112
04-21-2004, 01:42 AM
A very top notch company. I get mine from Amazon usually 10% off- free shipping-no tax!
I collect the "Aircraft of the aces" series. The volumes are about $15 each and about 100 pages. Lot's of cool photos and artist color plates of actual aircraft, lots of detail. I just coicidently recieved three issues today. I probaly buy about 8-10 issues a year. After reading the books I usually come up with some historically accurate matchups for the full mission builder.

FatBoyHK
04-21-2004, 04:11 AM
Yes, I collect Aircraft of the Aces series too. It contain a lot of first-hand combat reports from some well-known aces, very very useful for anyone who want to fly real and fight real in CFS games!

bird_brain
04-21-2004, 05:31 AM
I find them very valuable for reference on accurate historical paint schemes, period photos and pilot accounts. As someone mentioned, some are better than others, but even though they look skimpy, they are really just "compact".
You can get slightly used copies on Amazon.com for $9-$12 each. I have about half of tehm already because every time I become interested in a new plane, I get the Osprey book & read up on it. I just got "German Jet Aces", "Spitfire V Aces" & "Japanese Navy Aces"

Highly recommended reading. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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TgD Thunderbolt56
04-21-2004, 06:26 AM
I've found most of the osprey books to be...er...lacking. They do a good job of covering the basics and give good concise information regarding common facts, but if it's detail and uncovering some of the more obscure things about that particular aircraft I would suggest looking elsewhere.

I have a few of them and they serve a purpose. I'm just saying.



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SUPERAEREO
04-21-2004, 06:38 AM
I think they are good books if you are after a good general read on the subject, but as it has been said their quality is somewhat variable and the colour profiles are not always dependable.

I wish John Weal stopped painting all the LW fighters with generic grey-greens when he cannot make his mind up on their colour scheme, which unfortunately seems to be 90% of the time.
Guesswork is better than Feldgrau IMHO.

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DuxCorvan
04-21-2004, 08:55 AM
I have many of them. They're pretty attractive, their quality varying a lot, but there's not much choice in a mid-size town library in Spain. There are about 60 in the 'Aces' series. I like the last ones because they focus on the air war for less covered countries as Slovakia or Croatia, among others.

And, SuperAereo, you're right, I follow the nice profiles in there in matters such as markings and general scheme layout, but for colors I prefer documentation. The RLM colouring -and the quality of pressed colors- are plain negative. There are many guys still making LW skins with simple neutral greys instead of aproximate RLM colors because of this. The two-tone neutral grey scheme for LW aircraft and the false neutral grey for German uniforms are myths that should be mended.

Wehrmacht fieldgrau uniforms were rather greenish, and LW RLM colors were in most cases greenish, blueish or reddish tones of grey.

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Xnomad
04-21-2004, 12:00 PM
Some of them for instance the "aces" series are a bit boring to read it's pages and pages of "so and so got so many kills on such and such a day and then so and so got so many kills on the next day and then so and so got 1 kill on that day etc. etc. etc." The stuff before and after each chapter is quite good and the pictures and panels are great. I still keep on buying them anyway http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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huggy87
04-21-2004, 09:20 PM
Thanks all,
Does anybody have any favorites? Are any especially good?

Hunde_3.JG51
04-21-2004, 09:31 PM
I have FW-190 Aces of the Western Front and FW-190 Aces of the Russian Front. Don't expect alot of technical information from these or the squad oriented books. They give some nice pilot accounts and are well illustrated (with color plates), but expect alot of info on squadron movements and the naming of many of the airmen who flew in a particular fighter unit or who flew a particular type of plane. It is a good reference for unit movements and members (including pilot and aircraft losses), but light on technical information. Xnomad's post is pretty accurate, but it does give you a good idea of the massive losses the LW sustained during the last two years of the war (depending on which book you read). It can get boring at times though, and I wish the books had more pilot accounts. Overall they are a good read.

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