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01-08-2006, 09:50 PM
i hear stuff about this game could i hear from someone who has it u know the pro's and cons

01-08-2006, 10:00 PM
The Lock On forums may be a good place to start. http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/13610606

01-08-2006, 10:03 PM
Well, I have Lockon and tell me tell you:

If your used to the flight model for Jet aircraft for IL-2, then you should be at home in LockOn.

It seems just like the IL-2 engine.

Pros: Not a steep learning curve
Nice Selection of planes
Good Campaign and Generated missions
Cons: Is not realistic enough in some aspects to modern airfighters like Falcon 4.0
Feels weird at first
The Graphics can kind of distract from the purpose of the game

01-08-2006, 11:17 PM
what the price range and will i even be able to find it i dont wanna be all exited and the n be shot down cause i cant find it, like il2gold
o yea what kinda planes are there?

01-08-2006, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by steve_v:
The Lock On forums may be a good place to start. http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/13610606
man those guys got some fansy pants sigs in there,a bit of bad language,and some mostely naked chics how do they do it i wonder quietly to myself

01-08-2006, 11:28 PM
Its the best A10 Warthog sim out there. It doesnt have the sophistication of Allied Fighters it is worth it just for the A-10

01-08-2006, 11:33 PM
what s the whole list of flyables tho after the patches and all

01-09-2006, 12:52 AM
F15c A10

Su33 su27


Basically Russian planes. They do a great job with the Su33 and carrier landings..

01-09-2006, 03:21 AM
I think I'm going to get Lock-on since I seen it for about 6 pound at amazon.co.uk. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The A-10 is apparently quite a nice aircraft to fly if you have just come from a WW2 sim.

01-09-2006, 03:57 AM
I liked it a lot, but I stopped playing it when 1.2 patch came. It caused extreme wobbles in the vertical to my Saitek Evo similar to what LeBillfish was describing for her 4.02.
Not as great sim as the new falcon but fancier and with a variety of aircraft instead of just one. Very good.

01-09-2006, 04:13 AM
Cool sim, but with a distinct sterile feeling. No matter offline or online, you feel like flying in an empty space with an occassional object.

Online play is what always puzzled me. Even at its prime, there was rarely more than 30 players online, playing in 5-10 servers. Any kind of coop or squad matches was impossible. It was rather a 1 on 1 missile joust.

The good things is that it is beautiful, reasonably accurate (even more so after 1.02 patch and improved Russian avionics) and at times addictive.

extremely hardware demanding

01-09-2006, 04:17 AM
I just bought it last week for NZ$18 - a steal. tried it once and it seems pretty good, liked the ground textures. Couldn't work out how to fire a missile (did it once but that was a justa fluke). Kind of read the manual(contents page). Looks like a good 'un but one that will definitely require some study. I mean - "navigation mode"? We have it in Il-2 but we call it "looking out the window."If you can find it cheap I'd say buy it.
Anyone know how to import skins in it?

01-09-2006, 04:32 AM
I like LOMAC, but it is one of those game you feel if they had just 6 more months work on it.

I think they really missed the boat by not having a dynamic campaign engine(which was originally intended, but I think the programmer got sick and they canned it) which is why Falcon even with dated graphics is still going strong.

01-09-2006, 08:27 AM
It's hard to have a DC system when AI is often very unlogical like attacking SAM sites with cannons when AC are out of missiles..managing resources unfer such conditions in DC is ..well imposible.

01-09-2006, 08:36 AM
Get F4AF instead. I agree with the "sterile" comments above although it is beautifull. You can buy something called Hitiles for F4AF which really improves the look of that sim. And it's now a lot more stable than Lomac.

01-09-2006, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by UberPickle:

wtf are K/mh?

01-09-2006, 09:42 AM
LOMAC just isn't as fun as IL2. In IL2 you can just fly around for fun while LOMAC is like... a shaft in the anal canal, so to speak.

01-09-2006, 10:10 AM
Lock On is a beautiful sim with quite extraordinary graphics. Much better than IL-2.

It needs a good PC to run it smoothly and the pace of combat is quite different from IL-2. Many combats take place "Beyond Visual Range" and it's a lot more complicated than IL-2 because of radar and missiles etc.

Well worth a look if you like flight sims.




01-09-2006, 10:40 AM
It's the game that derails any thread it's put close to at F4:AF forums at frugals http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
It's a pretty nice game, looks good and flying feels good. If your not into making your own missions it will feel lacking pretty quick, since the campains are just a series of premade missions, that doesn't seem to effect the next mission at all, no matter the outcome.
Ground attack is not fun at all exept in the dedicated groundpounders.

If you like the A-10 get the game. If you like the SU-25 and starforce, get Flaming Cliffs. If you like the Mig-29 or the SU-27/33.. well it's worth it just to play with them a little, at least if you get it cheap.

If you want a great time in a 'living' environment during the campaign, buy Falcon Allied force at once!

01-09-2006, 02:57 PM
I liked LOMAC but since I got Falcon 4.0AF I've not played it once. I think the initial learning curve of F4AF is very steep (it was for me anyway) but once you've got the hang of it you'll have a blast. I love going through the whole ramp start procedure (even if it takes 8 minutes - I've made laminated checklists to help the 'ol memory) and the detailed radar and weapons managment tasks. When you hear people in this forum flaming the "button pushing jet sims" F4Af is the uber-button sim http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

01-09-2006, 04:17 PM
so will my pf computer run it ok? does it have same requirements

01-09-2006, 04:28 PM
a little higher, but the answer is yes.

01-10-2006, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by slo123:
so will my pf computer run it ok? does it have same requirements

If you lower the water settings it will be fine.

01-10-2006, 02:00 PM
Well worth it with Flaming Cliffs add-on and patch 1.11. Dont compare jet sims with prop sims they are too different, lock on online is great and they have a good community, if you like jets at all you wont be dissapointed and when you learn the symbology and missles and hud stuff you will be addicted. It is not, there they are over there lets gettim type of flyin like prop sims it is learning the radar and fighting BVR (beyond visual range) which in its own way can be very satifying when you make the kill, buy it and see for yourself.

01-10-2006, 02:35 PM
blackpulpit, you say something that's very important and something I doubt others will have noticed.
The Flaming Cliffs addon isn't marketed very much on the original Ubisoft LOMAC website, only a few references on the forum, but LOMAC is still being developed at a consistent rate.

Flaming Cliffs was the first 'unofficial' addon, though don't be fooled. The 'unofficial' tag had to be sticked to the project's name only because there was no publisher. Now they've decided to puslish it themselves, but probably due to legal issues with former publisher it still need to be called 'unofficial', don't se fooled though. It's created by the developers of Lockon.
More or less all **** from 1.02 was seen fixed in FC addon, plus a completely new damage model for the new a/c, which will be expanded to all a/c in later works.

The 1.11 patch for flaming cliffs fixes even a lot more things.
And somewhere in 2006 we will see Black Shark, the second expansion evolving around the KA-50 Hokum helicopter.

Lockon indeed is a good sim, especially where it stands now.

F4:AF has more avionics depth, but that's only fair for a single platform simulator in relation to several flyables in Lockon.

Graphically Lockon is by far the most good looking, but you need quite some power to run it. Damage model in Lockon is more advanced too.

Bringing Lockon or F4:AF in relation to IL is rediculous. The technologies are different, the era of aviation is different, the way the war is fought is different.

01-10-2006, 03:13 PM
where can i get it besides online and whats the price

01-10-2006, 03:18 PM

01-10-2006, 05:25 PM
I didnt knew Flaming Cliffs is now available.

01-10-2006, 06:20 PM
holy poop it said lock on was sold at target so light bulb i looked at their website for target and they have il2 forgotten battles yay im gonna try to go there now i hope i hope i hope they have il2 gold man u guys have no idea how much i want that sim im still hopeing by the way

01-10-2006, 06:21 PM
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