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tatarjj
10-21-2005, 11:34 AM
I have played two careers, one that I played through 9 patrols before accidentally deleting it (which is ******edly easy to do in this game), and my second I have played through 21 patrols in, mostly in a type IXC. Throughout all these patrols, I have NEVER EVER seen any kind of warship other than a destroyer, and ONCE, a Black Swan Frigate that was patrolling around the Bay of Biscay. I have been using RuB 1.44 for the last few patrols, but for the previous ones, I was using patches 1.3 and 1.4b.

I got to 1941 in my first career, and it is now September 1942 in my second and I have still not seen any large warships. I have also not seen any passenger liners- the largest ship I have ever seen remains the T3 tanker.

So where are all these BB's and CV's that supposedly exist?! Or even an cruiser?! Maybe I have just been unlucky... I occasionly get a radio report for a enemy task force, but it is ALWAYS like 2000km away going the oppisite direction at 21 knots.

Dominicrigg
10-21-2005, 12:22 PM
Its blind luck for you to stumble onto a task force (i have managed it 2wice) and usually intercepting them is a no no unless you are directly infront of their path (which is luck again)

The first time i saw smoke behind me which is rare (as most ships dont catch you on the surface) i knew something was up so turned around to find a task force steaming in the same direction as me. I dived and got a nice hit on a Nelson http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Shot 4 spread
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1690/shots1fo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

One hits the rear another passes under the front!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif the other 2 miss

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/7681/onehit3sk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Luckily its crippled
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/2039/crippled8ag.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and i went on to sink it later feeling guilty.

They are very hard to kill on realistic and a massive challenge. Thats why getting one is so much of a boost. Im glad they are rare http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif This one was of the North East of England steaming north as i went round to patrol near ireland http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

I lined up on the King george but it was too fast, i used the same solution for this Nelson which was second in line.

They are very rare but that makes them fun, if you really want to see one you can play the single missions or try to sneak into a harbour. If you want to cheat to see one im sure someone here can give you spoilers as to where the task forces are and at what times, and when the ships are in harbour. But this ruins the fun i think, but if it doesnt bother you do this.

Haha silent hunter commander is cool, i just retrospectively created a commander file of that dead commander and checked the patrol i was on about. It was the HMS Rodney according to that lolz



CAPTAIN'S LOG

Patrol 4
U-54, 1st Flotilla
Left at: December 22, 1939, 11:49
From: Wilhelmshaven
Mission Orders: Patrol grid AM13

December 24, 1939, 09:31
Ship sunk!
Grid AN 43
S.S. Cape Rodney, 2042 tons

December 25, 1939, 18:53
Ship sunk!
Grid AF 78
HMS Rodney, 36000 tons

December 27, 1939, 08:13
Ship sunk!
Grid AM 32
S.S. Andrea F. Luckenbach, 2043 tons

January 8, 1940, 09:51
Ship sunk!
Grid AM 35
S.S. Daghild, 6448 tons

January 10, 1940, 14:42
Ship sunk!
Grid AF 78
S.S. Catawba Ford, 2336 tons

Patrol results
Crew losses: 0
Ships sunk: 5
Aircraft destroyed: 0
Patrol tonage: 48869 tons

Christmas day too, im such a turd. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Realjambo
10-21-2005, 12:58 PM
Dominicrigg

Just admiring your tonnage screen and I noticewd the ship names are there, is that a mod? or did you replicate the tonnage screen and add the names?

Back to thread, big big ships are a rareity I think, biggest I ever sunk was an aircraft carrier moored in Scapa - very satisfying watching the planes slide off the flat top dropping to the sea bed!

That said, I am halfway thru my second career so that backs up what tatarjj says.

rm_1944
10-21-2005, 12:59 PM
Ya know, I saw the famous 2 Nelson + a Royal Soverieign convoy North of Ireland heading for Scapa a couple of weeks ago. It was coming into range and going to cross my T at about 1500 meters and it was dusk and I was in a perfect position to attack.

Unfortunately I was homeward bound with NO torpedos left after slaughtering an inbound convoy in Grid AM02!! Talk about Murphy's Law!

All I could do was radio BDU and do my best impersonaton of John Cleese in the Russian firing squad skit - I shook my fist at the BBs and exclaimed "Next time.....definitely!!!"http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Dominicrigg
10-21-2005, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Realjambo:
Dominicrigg

Just admiring your tonnage screen and I noticewd the ship names are there, is that a mod? or did you replicate the tonnage screen and add the names?

Back to thread, big big ships are a rareity I think, biggest I ever sunk was an aircraft carrier moored in Scapa - very satisfying watching the planes slide off the flat top dropping to the sea bed!

That said, I am halfway thru my second career so that backs up what tatarjj says.


Its the Silent hunter commander mod. I dont like other mods but this one is pretty cool as you can switch on what you like and switch off what you dont like.

The names are a cool added bonus for fun. It gets them wrong sometimes but still, who cares its very cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I dont know if they are named in game, but if you check your patrols out of game it names all the ships you sink.

JU88
10-21-2005, 01:22 PM
You need to sneak in to Scapa flow or Lock Ewe at certain dates, you will find all the Royal navy heavies like Battle ships and aircraft carriers, there. Check the comuninity manual for the exact dates. October to December 39 is very good time to go hunting in Ewe and Scapa.

Otherwise try a career with the 29th flotilla, Half the tasks forces in the game pass through Gibraltar at some point, not to mention the 4 busy convoy routes that also use the med, in fact the med has some nice choke points for convoys and TFs, combine that with the excellent weather conditions there and the 29th is a great place to be....

Kaleun1961
10-21-2005, 02:14 PM
Wait a minute! You get ship names with SH3 Commander? I've never seen that. How do you enable that, is there an option to check somewhere? Honestly, I've never seen it.

pmatthews83
10-21-2005, 02:31 PM
I sunk my first medium sized warship in my last patrol. I've found that now that I use RUB, convoys tend to have one or two larger warships amongst them (not escorts, they are actually part of the convoy). I sunk I Fiji Light Cruiser in my last convoy attack. I was excited just to see something larger than a destroyer for once.

Kaleun--You can see ship names using the latest 2.2v of SH3 Commander. They are displayed when you generate a personal file and look under the ships sunk for each patrol.

tatarjj
10-21-2005, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
Wait a minute! You get ship names with SH3 Commander? I've never seen that. How do you enable that, is there an optin to check somewhere? Honestly, I've never seen it.
I also use SH3 commander, and I have also never seen the ship names option...
Thanks for the replies, but I had no idea that there were actually DATES that these ships were in certain locations... for god's sake, don't tell me any more!!!! Now I know how you guys find them all, you cheaters http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
But I thought that the game randomly generated ships/convoys (that have preset waypoints though).

Dominicrigg
10-21-2005, 02:34 PM
It does randomly generate ships. But it also has set patterns in for things like coastal ships patrolling and some task forces.

Some people have studied the mission editors to see when ships are where. But as i said i think this ruins the magic. Its like watching the making of before you watch a film. NOoooOOOoooO :O

Kaleun1961
10-21-2005, 02:35 PM
The convoys are randomly generated. Capital ships in port are there according to schedule. Merchant ships are in port in various numbers according to whatever mods you may have. The harbour traffic mods put merchants in all ports, but also nets and mines. You do have the option of disabling them for your own ports, but not enemy ports. I do wonder, however, how the harbour traffic mod handles neutral ports. I wouldn't want to get blown up while slipping into Vigo to load up on bananas.

Kaleun1961
10-21-2005, 02:43 PM
Got this one solved, guys, thanks for the help. I just checked my version number and found it was version 2.1.2.30. As I write this I am downloading the updated version. If you hadn't mentioned about ship names, I may not have thought to upgrade my version.

Kaleun1961
10-21-2005, 02:55 PM
Done! Got it, installed it and about to take it out for a spin. I've made sure to select ship names. It changed the picture of my Kaleun, Georg Winter. The new picture is of a guy with black hair, smeared down with goop and parted down the middle. He now looks like Alfalfa from "The Little Rascals."

Dominicrigg
10-21-2005, 03:41 PM
You can change your picture by double clicking on it. Thats how i got an actual picture of Topp in my career.

panthercules
10-21-2005, 04:32 PM
I've been playing since the game came out (been taking my time - on my third career, with about 25 patrols in total, but all "realistic" commerce raiding patrols and no harbor-hunting or capital ship camping), and last night was the first time I actually saw any warship larger than a destroyer.

After a fair number of too-far-off-to-catch sightings (especially last career during the Norway campaign in April 1940) I finally got a report of a task force steaming in my direction and fairly close to my track, so I was able to intercept it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Dead calm sea (not good for hunting these babies), but at least it was night time with reduced visibility (about 2,000m) and not much if any moon, so I decided to give it a shot.

Given the sea state and my initial distance and angle from the TF's course, I couldn't get as close into the middle as I would have liked, but I did see what looked like maybe a light cruiser that was coming into my pre-set firing solution so I let loose with my first salvo (2 G7e's) - as soon as I fired, I saw a CARRIER loom up out of the mist/fog behind the cruiser I had fired at. Since I had only gotten partway inside the formation, I had something (probably one of the outlying destroyers) bearing straight down on my from my right, and since it and the carrier were both going pretty fast I didn't really have time to do anything but take a wild guess at some new TDC settings and then let loose with my 2nd salvo (2 G7a's).

Since I knew they would spot those wakes, I had to crash dive and get the heck out of there, so I didn't get to see my results http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif BUT, I heard one torp explode prematurely and then heard one solid hit on something. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Unfortunately, I had to knock off for the night before I could manage to get back up and see if I did any real damage - tonight I'll see if maybe I can pick up the trail of a straggler and finish one off.

So, hang in there - they do seem to be rare but they are very cool when you do get a crack at one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Good luck and good hunting!

Horvald
10-21-2005, 05:06 PM
Same here I have been playing SH3 since it came out and still have not seen anything other than one Dido. I have recieved my share off contact reports of a task force here or there but always unable to intercept because of speed or distance. Well last night I transfered to the Med. so maybe there will be something there for me. I am starting to get kind of jealous of all the pics and stories that people post.

U107Wolff
10-23-2005, 07:11 AM
I've never met a taskforce. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
So to find me the big BB's I started hunting in harbors and found me in 1943 a docked taskforce in Loch Ewe. To find those big ships you can also check the community manual. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif