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alanschu
04-11-2005, 07:51 PM
I had heard that Task Forces were military convoys, but I guess they aren't always.


I found a task force and when I finally caught up to it, I was delighted to see a ton of merchant vessels. 3 T2s and a T3, and about 5 C3s, about 5 C2s, and a slew of Coastal/Small merchants. And with only a Clemson and Two flowers guarding it (And one flower and a clemson were in the front of it, while I was in the back).

So I need to close the distance fast, so I surface until I get to about 3 km at which point I am spotted. The flower isn't shooting yet, so I am greedy and stay surfaced. The Flower starts shooting, but I'm soooo close to a couple of T2s I wait just a few seconds more before I begin evasive manouvers. There are two beside each other, but they are shifting back and forth, so I am waiting for them to be closer to abeam.

Finally they are close enough to 90 degrees that I figure I ought to hit one. I set depth to 11 m (choppy waters) and hope for the best, turning away from the flower.

At this point I usually dive, but for some reason didn't (I think I accidentally hit S, thinking I'd dive for somet stupid reason). After a moment or two of 2x time compression, I realize the Corvette is still shooting at me from behind. Ack! Fortunately when he can only see my stern he has to be super accurate. But I also notice he's gotten quite close. Hmm...set depth to 3.5 m, fire 180 degrees from Aft torpedo. Kaboom! Free reign on the back of the convoy until the Clemson and other Corvette come to help out.


So I am able to take out another T2 when the Clemson starts shooting, so I dive down and figure I'll try to kill him with my second aft torpedo...maybe I'll get lucky. Turns out I missed, but I still got lucky. For some wierd reason, the task force had begun turning (maybe they were spooked by the death of some friends). It seems I no longer needed to surface, since most contacts were within 2km. They were moving in every which direction, so it was pandemonium. I think it pissed the escorts off because they had to spend just as much time avoiding the merchants as I did.

So anyways, I line up the T3 and blast it into oblivion. Sweet, 4 torp shots, three dead tankers (I spammed two at the first one...good thing since one detonated prematurely). Immediately after firing the torpedo I scanned for the last T2, only to find out that I was pretty much parallel with a C3 that was about 22 m or so bearing around 130 degrees. Scared the **** out of me....So I crash dive to get some quick depth so he doesn't start ramming me. While fully submerged I hear the Clemson depth charging something.....perhaps the noise of the convoy is making life hard on him for finding me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So I pop out of the water, still no sign of the T2 I saw before I entered the task force, but I saw a juicy C3 in front of me. Sweet, he's abeam and I can usually one shot these guys from abeam. Quickly set depth to about 7 m set to impact, and fire. A short while later, kaboom! But not a big kaboom! Rats...he doesn't appear to be sinking, but I've already turned away. Fortunately this is taking so much time that I have had an aft torpedo loaded. I turn just a bit, set to magnetic and a depth of 11 m, and a bit later, another boom. Not instadeath, but I have a feeling he'll be joining Davey Jones locker soon enough...fortunately, I have loaded up 2 bow torpedoes (running low on torps now...no more aft torpedoes, no more reloads....plenty on the external mounts though :P).

So where is that T2...aha! There he is...but ****, there's a small merchant about to intercept my perfect firing solution. But wait...the T2 has a much deeper draft...I can still shoot under the small merchant. I do that, and kaboom! Scratch another tanker. Over 40k tonnage in tankers alone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Still have one more torpedo. Should I go for smaller ship, since I'm sure to take it out? Oooo, a C3 in front of me (by this time the first C3 I had shot just bobbed its stern above the waterline for the last time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). I'm feeling lucky. Not quite an abeam shot, which I generally need for my 1 shot impact kill, but I try to hit under its keel and hope I get lucky. SOB is swerving a lot, so I'm gonna need to lead my shot appropriately. By this time, the Clemson seems to be getting closer to finding me, so I think I'll fire and dive when the time is right. Finally have a good shot, I fire and crash dive while telling my navigator to return to course.

Once I'm below water, I rig for silent running, set depth to 100 meters, and deploy decoys to ensure no annoying destroyer finds me.

Turned my eventless trip to east Coast US from a 14k tonnage disaster to a rewarding 80k tonnage splendor!

Task Forces rock! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

alanschu
04-11-2005, 07:52 PM
On a side note, while typing this I was alt-tabbed at 64x time compression.

At which point I realize that I was attacked by aircraft. Hull Integrity is 35%???? Starboard rudder is destroyed? Whoops.

But I shot down two planes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

soviet_warlord
04-11-2005, 08:09 PM
aren't task forces very fast and heavily defended groups of large battle- ready ships? Like 8 destroyers, maybe 2 battlecruisers, 3 battleships and 2 carriers? I think that you met a large convoy, thats all.

By the way, thats a LOT of tanker tonnage! lol wait until you start sinking battleships, it's fun.

alanschu
04-11-2005, 08:22 PM
That's what I thought they were too, and why I investigated. Radio Contact kept telling me about a "Task Force."

Turns out it was just a HUGE convoy.

Flagstaff72
04-11-2005, 08:28 PM
Not correct. I've intercepted two Task forces, and they both were simply larger-than-normal convoys, with only destroyers for cover.

The first I encountered had three T3 tankers, two troop ships, and a 7-8 cargo carriers (C2's and C3's). Two destroyers (C-class and a V&W) at the front, couple of Flowers at the back. It continued its route, minus all the tankers and one C3.
The second had two T2 tankers, 1 T3, two troop ships, three or four Libertys, and about 9-10 C's. 1 Clemson, 1 V&W, 2 Somers destroyers and at least 4 Flowers as cover. Sank two tankers, one troop ship, one Liberty, and two escorts, but got severely pummeled. Chose not to engage the group again.
Now that I think of it, both groups had very few, if in fact NO Small Merchants or Coastal merchants. So, the Task Forces would seem to be like larger, military convoys, while normal convoys are civilian merchantmen?

quillan
04-11-2005, 09:44 PM
As far as I can tell, a task force is any gathering of 3 or more ships that has a lot of warships with it. It could be a purely military force, or a convoy. I found one that had 6 destroyers and a Nelson battleship. I found another that was 1 destroyer and 2 frigates. I've seen in the editor one that is an escort carrier, and 2-4 destroyers. But others are simply large convoys. In your case, Alan, I think you got a little lucky. They've identified a bug with the spawning of groups. Each group has one ship defined as the leader. Each ship has a date at which it is available in the game. No ship that becomes available only after the date of the lead ship spawns. It probably should have been much more heavily guarded.

alanschu
04-11-2005, 09:59 PM
Yeah probably.....that's too bad.

It would have been a thousand times more intense sneaking around hiding in the choppy waters.

The Clemson was so far out to lunch on most of his attack runs that I think the choppy waters and neighbouring ships helped hide me, but with more destroyers it would have been crazy fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif