View Full Version : poll: online dogfighting base distance

04-07-2004, 06:12 PM

04-07-2004, 06:12 PM
When you join a server, how far apart do you like the bases to be?
(Squares on the minimap)

Some people claim that they "like to get altitude". My question is why cant they fly away from the enemy base to do this?

04-07-2004, 09:37 PM
At least 5-7 squares apart. Why? Well most people who fly a low level plane never really appreciate how long it takes to get to altitude. Sure an altitude plane like a FW190 or a P-47 can fly away but the problem is that if you're less than 2 square away its quite possible and very probable that you're going to get intercepted 3 times out of 4 by a fast low altitude fighter.

Nothing wrong with fast low altitude flyers...its just not everyones cup of tea and I like variety. With increased distances you see more real WWII tactics emerging. Combat may start at 3000 meters or closer to 5000 meters (which is getting close to where most ETO battles started) and then get down into the mud as the battle spirals downward and opponents try and gain speed or retain energy.

Those who fly down in the mud still can. High speed passes at airfields and other low flying aircraft are still perfectly possible and fights usually drop down into the mud anyways after a higher altitude merge...so its more fun for all. Those who can't wait a full minute and a half or two minutes without combat probably should find another game http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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04-07-2004, 10:37 PM
I run a dedicated server 24/7 as best I can at least. Whne I have time to join the fun, you can bet that I personally do not want to have to wait to kill or be killed. I want to go wheels up, and get my groove on, just like dat!

I set all my maps up to make it possible.

Sure, variations are cool - coops, campaign, great scripted etc, and we all really do need to give out some kudos to the folks that go this extra mile, because it does take quite a bit of effort to serve up.

Me, I love IL-2. Wish I had extra time to do crazy stuff with the server right now but I don't. So, its just a KILL KILL KILL server, and is a hoot for me! Definitely quenches my urge to choke my boss.

Just be glad there is some variation out here I guess. Soon I will be cutting the boss's lawn, and my server settings will change accordingly.

04-07-2004, 10:48 PM
I like a good seperation, no less than 30km between the frontline bases.

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04-08-2004, 12:09 AM
I like it just far enough to keep the fight from directly over the base. I like to join the fight at my own time and choosing, not 5 seconds after wheels up where I have no alt, no speed, and no chance in hell of survival.

04-08-2004, 02:38 AM
you left out the factor of plane speed. the slower the planes are, the closer the bases should be to each other.

04-08-2004, 03:20 AM
Not less than 5 squares apart.

The other night I was in a DF server and the bases were very close: it was impossible not to get shot down immediately by the (admittedly better organised) other side, whose planes just circled over my base (vulching was permitted).

One needs space to get to altitude and get some speed...


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04-08-2004, 04:34 PM

04-08-2004, 04:39 PM
same base
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04-08-2004, 04:40 PM

04-08-2004, 07:08 PM
Why don't they fly away from their base rather than right into the teeth of the enemy?

Good question. I remember a debate with some guy telling me that was more risky behavior than engaging in HO attacks. Hoo, boy...

The answer is, there are a lot of people in this community who will give lip service to accuracy, to historical modeling, etc., but when it comes down to it, they do everything arcade: they fly WonderWoman, they don't "fly to survive", they fly planes that don't belong where they're flying 'em, and specifically for this question, they can't be bothered to fly off in some other direction to get a couple kilometers altitude that will increase their tactical position. Why, that'd take a whole five to ten minutes away from their dogfighting!!! Can't have that, can we?