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Bearcat99
09-21-2006, 04:29 PM
Classic Flight Sim Video (http://www.archive.org/details/flightsimula)

Thanks to CaryMG over at SHQ........ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Treetop64
09-21-2006, 04:59 PM
"...now we got 386 33MHz processors..."

Boy, oh boy that was a long time ago. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

I remember when I got my first 486 50MHz machine. I thought I was the baddest mofo on the planet! Purchasing it set me back by a few thousand dollars, though. The stuff wasn't cheap back then. I later bought 2 megabytes of RAM for that same machine, and that set me back a further $300 and change.

Then I got that huge 14K modem (it was as big as a shoebox), and that cost another several hundred dollars.

P.S. - That guy from Spectrum Holobyte has to be about the dorkiest looking dood I've ever seen! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

waffen-79
09-21-2006, 05:08 PM
thanks BC, combat filght sim was always my thing rather that just flying, I used to have a blast playing microprose's F-19 stealth fighter

Taylortony
09-21-2006, 05:35 PM
Only 16 years? Pah!!!!!!!!!!!................. Just a boy in a mans world.

Bearcat99
09-21-2006, 05:52 PM
Yeah I had the F-117 Night Fighter I think it was... that was my first PC sim.... I still have the disk. I remember the oil refineries in the sim.. the company was Noxxon... LOL. There was also a missle that had a camera.. soI could like.... launch it and beat feet and watch it zero in on the destroyer..... MY first PC was a 386DX2... 33 MHZ with a whopping 750MHD and a 4M video card. I got it Christmastime in 1990... ad it cost us almost $1500... and that was without a printer. Actually my wife got it.... and I was pissed to tell the truth.. but I wound up commandeering it after a while...LOL..

I upgraded that to a 486DX2 @ 2 years later... I cant remember if it was a 50MHZ or 66... .... I did it myself.... and I was so anal about it...ROFLMAO... I think I must have waited about 10 minutes before I got the guts to hit the power after it was all said and done. I must have checked my connections around 20 times.... and the first modem I installed.... whooo boy.. what a nightmare... thats where I learned all about IRQs and DMAs.... I was so proud of myself when it all worked.... I put Warbirds II on the 486... that was the first WWII sim I had.. and the first one where I saw a P-51. I was always a warbird lover.. but my intrest kind of dimmed ... until I got Warbirds... but that had an abysmal offline thing going on.... tyhen in 95 Tuskegee Airmen came out on HBO... and that was a watermark for me as far as warbirds went... Then 5 years later after I got CFS1... I was a full blown unashamed flight sim junkie....

Looking at some of that video now in hindsight.. and seeing the guy in his flight suit and hearing the dialog... and thinking of those sims juxtaposed on LOMAC and this..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I can imagine 10 years from now...... Wowzers!!!

TAW_Oilburner
09-21-2006, 06:07 PM
That was nuts. They should have included LHX attack chopper. Anybody notice the sweet mullets in the egghead store?

AKA_TAGERT
09-21-2006, 06:52 PM
google AOTP and TAGERT and you will know how I know

WB_Outlaw
09-21-2006, 07:54 PM
Y'all are a bunch of kids. Those aren't classics. Try playin' Falcon (not Falcon AT) on a monochrome monitor with a Herc. card. Of course, the first "online" flight sim I played ran on a Tandy Color Computer with 64K (that's KILObytes) of RAM and you could connect to another CoCo via null modem cable or over a 50 billion dollar 300 baud modem. Graphics were 320x200 wireframe and there was no bullet drop. The rounds always went to the crosshairs. Talk about Tie-Fighters.

Ahhhh the good old days.

--Outlaw.

AKA_TAGERT
09-21-2006, 11:04 PM
I still think of Air Warrior back in 1992 at $12/hr on the Geni network as the first multi civilan combat flight sim... and when it dropped to $6/hr we played twice as much per month!

ploughman
09-22-2006, 01:24 AM
First one I played was on a ZX-81, all you could do was land the 'plane.' It wasn't really a flight sim, more like one of those eye/hand coordination tests you see on the net now.

On the Spectrum, which was 1982 or 83, you could actually shoot something down. The AI basically responded inversely to your control inputs, so if you weaved it weaved, if you came in nice and slick, it sat there waiting to be hosed down. I never played another one after that until my roommate in Savannah came home one day with F-117 for his 286. That game was great for it's time, lots of bells and whistles, glide bombs, radar foot prints, SAMs.

Bewolf
09-22-2006, 04:40 AM
Battle of Britain, Lawrence Holland!!!!

My first ever flight simulator! *breaks in tears of nostalgica*

WB_Outlaw
09-22-2006, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
I still think of Air Warrior back in 1992 at $12/hr on the Geni network as the first multi civilan combat flight sim... and when it dropped to $6/hr we played twice as much per month!

I was lucky. Even as early as late in '89 the POPs in Baton Rouge were rock solid and I never paid more than $6 an hour for GEnie's evening rates. Some Canucks in the squad had to pay $9-$12 b/c they had to come through DataPac.

--Outlaw.

Philipscdrw
09-22-2006, 08:37 AM
Got a British Telecom-surplus 386 nearly exactly 10 years ago, running Flight Sim 3. Soon got Dawn Patrol, then FS98, CFS1, FS2000, CFS2, FS2002, Il-2...

We still have that PC, but through a series of rolling upgrades every single component has been replaced at least once, so none of the original is left...

Diablo310th
09-22-2006, 08:47 AM
My first computer was a Ti-99 with pong on it. My first flight sim was Aces over Europe soon followed by Aces of the Pacific.

Chuck_Older
09-22-2006, 10:25 AM
C-64 all the way, baby. Gunship for teh win

Chuck_Older
09-22-2006, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Diablo310th:
My first computer was a Ti-99 with pong on it. My first flight sim was Aces over Europe soon followed by Aces of the Pacific.

sure you didn't have a Ti-994A? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

El Turo
09-22-2006, 10:37 AM
I recall the original "Jet" on IBM as being maybe the oldest flight sim I've ever played.. that was REAL early on.. maybe 81? 82? Intellivision had "B17 Bomber!" with the voicepack and whatnot.. good fun. Hehe. The original microsoft flight simulator had that biplane combat mode you could go into. From there, it was on to the C64 with Gunship! and F-15 Strike Eagle, Falcon, Mig Alley Ace.. ahh.. the good ole days. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

From there, it was a bit of a lull for me until we got a new 386 8mhz with a turbo up to 16! LOL. I'm pretty sure this is the machine I played Flight of the Intruder and Battle of Britian on for about 72 hours straight with no food, water or sleep. LOL.

I then spent a long portion of time with the old Janes' series (loved Fighters Anthology, and USAF was a nice, if simplified, follow up).

From there, it was on to WWII Online and IL2. Haven't done anything else since. I never did the warbirds or airwarrior thing, I was always too poor back in the day.

F6_Ace
09-22-2006, 10:46 AM
Those PC games were for noobs. Real men had a Spectrum 48K and spent most of their time adjusting the tone on their tape recorder to get the game to load...never mind poncing about in an aircraft.

Choctaw111
09-22-2006, 10:51 AM
My first PC was a 386/33 and I got it just to play Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe. I loved that game so much! I ordered the game from Lucasfilm the same day I ordered my computer and the game arrived within the week and I wound up waiting nearly a MONTH for my computer to arrive! That was one of the longest months of my life up to that time. Since then I have gotten just about every combat flight sim title that has come out but nothing has compared to the IL2 series.
My first combat flight sims were played on my Commodore 64 with Spitfire Ace and others (including F19 Stealth Fighter that I picked up at the Air and Space Museum in Washington DC in 1989). Ace of Aces comes to mind in the Mossie (I think it was anyway) but that was pretty long ago. Then there was the Amiga 500 with Their Finest Hour which was pretty good also. Lucasfilm Games did a pretty good job with those back then.

El Turo
09-22-2006, 10:51 AM
LOL.. true. Wow. I had somehow totally forgotten about tape drives. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

p-11.cAce
09-22-2006, 11:02 AM
I had a TI-994a with the cassette tape drive as my first computer - I don't think playing River Raid on an Atari 2600 counts but it sure was alot of fun...I guess that was 1980 or 1981. My first real flightsim was Chuck Yeager Flight Trainer on my Apple II - it even had "tracks"! I always wanted AcroJet from Microprose but never did get it. Ran through abunch of MSFS - I think I started with MSFS4, though got away from simming for abit in the early 90's...Rediscovered the fun when CFS1 came out and became an addict when I got the first IL2 back in 2001.

Fatoomch
09-22-2006, 09:58 PM
And the classic Chuck Yeagers Air Combat!

"its a great day for Flying"

Choctaw111
09-23-2006, 04:53 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fatoomch:
And the classic Chuck Yeagers Air Combat!

...and the classic "out of bullets" text... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif