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t73083101
01-30-2009, 01:41 AM
Hi, I know this is sort of a stupid question.
What do you do when you get lost?

DD_crash
01-30-2009, 01:59 AM
Look at the map???

DuckyFluff
01-30-2009, 02:21 AM
Or ask ground control for a vector to target/base http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

t73083101
01-30-2009, 02:24 AM
How do you that?

Tully__
01-30-2009, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by t73083101:
How do you that? It's in the communications menu, Tab key is the default assignment. It won't work in dogfight online servers though.

Fledermaus578
01-30-2009, 02:45 AM
Get as much altitude as you can and then look down.
"Ok... Imma headin' west. Up ahead there's a river runnin' N-S. At the north end it meets another river by a city. Out my other window, I see two lakes... one is round and the other looks like a horseshoe crab, etc."
You then bring up the map, locate those terrain features and then try to orient yourself.
Or...
Fly along a major river...noting the direction on your compass. Look for landmarks on the ground like other "crossing" rivers or cities, and then try to find something corresponding on the map.
Or...
Provided that you took note of which direction you took off from the airfield, do a 180 degree turn, fly till you're almost out of fuel and look for a road to land on. You'll most certainly be behind friendly lines.

For you carrier-based "Pacific Theater" guys...
Remember when your mother used to drop you off at the YMCA for swimming lessons...but instead you just sat on the side, crying with the other scared kids? When you run out of fuel, you'll wish you weren't such a sissy growning up.

Or...
One could press the radio button and ask the tower for a vector home(but that's admitting defeat)

t73083101
01-30-2009, 02:47 AM
I can't find it.

I only have

1. Request Assistance
2. Vectors for Home Base
3.Request for Landing

timholt
01-30-2009, 03:01 AM
(tab) followed by (8) followed by (2) will give you a vector for home base.

t73083101
01-30-2009, 03:10 AM
I mean to regroup with your squadron.
Sometimes I lose them because they tend to fly faster (even though we're using the same kind of plane), especially during take-off.

F19_Orheim
01-30-2009, 03:15 AM
Flying offline or online?

To navigate you of course have to have basic knowledge about compass headings and I assume you do have that (90 degrees equals east, 180 south, 270 west and 0 north).

I also assume you know how to bring out the map (default key is "M" i think), and zoom in and out with mouse clicks.

Now, the easiest way to navigate visually is by selecting ground features which are marked on the map and looking for them on the ground (map to ground). If the weather is fine, this is not difficult provided that unique, prominent ground features have been chosen, such as hills, forests, lakes, river structures, towns etc. But if there is cloud below or the visibility is poor it may be difficult to find the selected features.

In bad weather, the best solution is to navigate from ground to map. Look for prominent features on the ground through holes in the cloud, then identify them on the map.

A call for "vector for homebase" is a nice feature, first and foremost; if this is the actual place you want to fly to (home base 45 degrees), you just fly that direction until you reach the base. If this is not where you want to flt to, it is still useful as you get a bearing to a place which narrows down the area where you might be at.

If this seems too akward, no fun, too difficult and you fly offline, I suggest you check your difficulty setting so that your plane is displayed on the map (GPS http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ), and if you are flying online, you choose servers according to your liking in terms of navigational aids.

F19_Orheim
01-30-2009, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by t73083101:
I mean to regroup with your squadron.
Sometimes I lose them because they tend to fly faster (even though we're using the same kind of plane), especially during take-off.

Ah that is a different story all alltogether http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.. The AI effect http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
If you want the easy way, use mapicons and routes in difficulty setting... makes you see not only your own plane, but also friendly and enemy planes ..... no communication item to ask your leader, nor home base, about their where-abouts I am afraid.

t73083101
01-30-2009, 03:38 AM
Alrighty. Thanks for the replies, everyone. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GIAP.Shura
01-30-2009, 04:06 AM
Press A. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

F19_Orheim
01-30-2009, 05:06 AM
good point http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif "A" and you can make some coffee too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

doogerie
01-30-2009, 06:41 AM
if you get totaly lost the auto pilot is a good last resort and you will find them i the end but just use the mini map that can also help

GIAP.Shura
01-30-2009, 08:57 AM
What sort of a noob would suggest using the autopilot?

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doogerie
01-30-2009, 01:39 PM
Did i not say as a last last last resort if nothing else works

GIAP.Shura
01-30-2009, 02:56 PM
Magic 8-Ball says:


Concentrate and ask again

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Ba5tard5word
01-30-2009, 03:52 PM
Jack: "Live together, die alone!"

triad773
01-30-2009, 04:48 PM
Back in the day, aviators relied on landmarks for navigation of course. In IL-2 there are not many currently available....

Like was said before- trust your maps and if all else fails, keep MiniMap Path ON in your difficulty settings!

Good luck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

F19_Orheim
01-30-2009, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by GIAP.Shura:
What sort of a noob would suggest using the autopilot?

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aren't we all noobs?

GIAP.Shura
01-31-2009, 02:42 AM
Shut yer mouth!

I can't handle the truth!

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doogerie
01-31-2009, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by triad773:
Back in the day, aviators relied on landmarks for navigation of course. In IL-2 there are not many currently available....
Good luck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

with luck we will be abel to do that in SOW

Pyrres
01-31-2009, 12:13 PM
In the Finnish gulf map it is already possible to some extend (and many others also but still). As I live in Helsinki it is fun to fly some familiar routes just by landmarks, for example our the route to your summer cottage, or to work. The roads are not there but the main landmarks are and places are there to tell you where you are.

RPMcMurphy
01-31-2009, 04:25 PM
Yesterday I was disoriented and a little lost after a dogfight. I had some damage and was leaking fuel.
I was at about 2000 feet, turned north and looked around. Down to my left was a small town with 2 bridges crossing a river to the west of town.
I brought up the map and found that town. I was thinking; How many small towns have a river to the west with 2 bridges right there? It must be the right town. I found that town on the map and therefore I found where I was on the map. I found my home base by looking for the nearest terrain feature to it because I was familiar to the terrain features near my home base. I also knew the general direction it was in because I knew what the departure azimuth was and going back home would be the back-azimuth.
I navigated back to base using that small 2 bridge town as my reference point. I climbed as high as I could on the way back because I was pretty sure I would run out of gas pretty soon.
All the terrain features matched up so it worked out okay. But I ran out of gas and belly landed short of the field. At least I was within crawling distance of the barracks.

(This little anecdote intended to help the guy who posted this navigation topic)
Hope it did. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif