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hernanyork
10-14-2004, 07:02 AM
I dont see any version of Cac 12 Boomerang, Cac 13 Wirraway, Do 24k1, Hawk 75 a7, Focker C.V, CW22, CB21, LOCHEED 212, Martin 139 WH3,WH2,WH1
one of the more used bombs in the early pacific war.
I only see a Brewster B339.
I think that is a little poor, for them.
Y asked about Bildeveests, Hudson or A28/29, Sunderland MK III, Barracuda like others FORGOTTEN planes.
IM LOOSING ANYMORE??????????

Tully__
10-14-2004, 07:08 AM
They had to drop planes from the primary release due to lack of space on the CD's as it is. If models are done and flight data exists we may well see some of these in patches with any luck...

DuxCorvan
10-14-2004, 08:26 AM
You did really believe that West Indies Nederlands Air Force was to be represented in a US/UK market-bound game? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Man, you're naive. You'll see it... just two weeks after my longed Spanish Civil War air sim... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

hernanyork
10-14-2004, 09:03 AM
I think that EASTERN Pacific War , was as interesting as US/UK theater , and the Japan won almost all the air battles.
By the way , the figts were very hard for bohts sides and the planes were less powerfouls than laters .......just more funny, thats all.

in god i believe, in my skill too, but not in the business of art.

flemsha
10-17-2004, 06:05 AM
I am as keen as the next person to see the Boomerang and the Wirraway, but the RAAF does get some planes it used in the pacific theatre, with the Spitfires, the P-40, the Beaufighter etc.

And the Kiwi's get the Corsair to add to that list.

Eraser_tr
10-17-2004, 07:06 AM
erm...The wirraway was a trainer aircraft that the boomerang was based off of. The Ca. 12,13 and 14 were all boomerang versions.

I would love to see all those planes too, and I'm an american. Especially the boomerang and hawk.

NAFP_supah
10-17-2004, 07:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
You did really believe that West Indies Nederlands Air Force was to be represented in a US/UK market-bound game? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Man, you're naive. You'll see it... just two weeks after my longed Spanish Civil War air sim... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We were told that it would be represented, also don't for one moment think that the US/UK gamers will be the only one to buy this. They will be largely outnumbered by those from mainland europe and other countries.

DuxCorvan
10-17-2004, 10:05 AM
I know, I know. I'm European, too. I hoped also to have some 'forgotten' aspects of Pacific air war here. For instance, I had hope they would include some Dutch and Chinese action.

Gibbage/Jeronimo's CW-21 was something I'd like to be in the game, as some other early or even pre-war material. For example, I'd also like to have Claudes and Nates and a Manchuria map, so we could use old FB Russian aircraft like I-153 and I-16 against them, thus getting the lost link between Russian and Japan stuff.

At least they have included the British there, and that's something you could never see in previous Pacific sims.

I think they simply had no time nor space nor human resources to have those in: the sim still lacks some essential US and Japanese aircraft, and they were frantically working to have the game on time.

Maybe in future patchs/add-ons we'll see something of this. But be realistic, it's unlikely that it will ever happen. Enjoy what we have.

LStarosta
10-17-2004, 01:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hernanyork:
I think that EASTERN Pacific War , was as interesting as US/UK theater , and the Japan won almost all the air battles.
By the way , the figts were very hard for bohts sides and the planes were less powerfouls than laters .......just more funny, thats all.

in god i believe, in my skill too, but not in the business of art. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, especially that one battle... Oh.. What was it called... Marianas Turkey Shoot, perhaps?

gwanna
10-17-2004, 02:22 PM
Ahhh, The Boomerang.

My cruel sister in Warwick left a message with my wife os Saturday while I was working, that she was going down to her local strip to see the Boomerang - SusieQ fly in.

I cannot repeat here what I called my sister http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

DIRTY-MAC
10-17-2004, 03:22 PM
New nations represented..
Australia, New Zaeland and here Dutch

http://www.france-simulation.com/fichiers/il2/imgpreview/objet7.jpg

NAFP_supah
10-17-2004, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DIRTY-MAC:
New nations represented..
Australia, New Zaeland and here Dutch

http://www.france-simulation.com/fichiers/il2/imgpreview/objet7.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes but allot of the flyables apparently aren't in the game or the patch. But they might be in the future! "In patches we trust" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DuxCorvan
10-17-2004, 04:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DIRTY-MAC:
New nations represented..
Australia, New Zaeland and here Dutch

http://www.france-simulation.com/fichiers/il2/imgpreview/objet7.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mmmmmm... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Obi_Kwiet
10-17-2004, 04:43 PM
Because Oleg didn't want to work over time for 6 more months modeling planes for every conceivable tiny aspect of the Pacific front.

NAFP_supah
10-17-2004, 05:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Because Oleg didn't want to work over time for 6 more months modeling planes for every conceivable tiny aspect of the Pacific front. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you for kindly belitteling my countries history and the part our armed forces played in the war in the pacific http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

hernanyork
10-17-2004, 05:11 PM
well,well,well....
ALL is wonderfull whit Oleg and his team, but in the East Netherlands and UK Pacific early fights the planes were so beutifull that i think is very sad not become to life them.
The MARTIN 139 WH3/A the USS B10b, sunk a lot of japan ships whiy more than 20.000 kills from troops in the water, if IN Pearl Harbour death 2.000 people, Whats the important in the Pacific War, the publicity ??, the marketing??
Who dont want to fly and alone Martin or Vildeebest against ships and zeros and nates and ki43 and attack a Sally or Nell or Ann whit a CW21 or Hawk75 a7 ,or patrol on a Sunderland mk4.
Sorry, some day we can o cant see them, its not the more importan, it is remember that they existed and fhigt hard in the always Forgotten War in the East Netherlans Island.

WTE_DuStA
10-18-2004, 08:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NAFP_supah:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Because Oleg didn't want to work over time for 6 more months modeling planes for every conceivable tiny aspect of the Pacific front. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you for kindly belitteling my countries history and the part our armed forces played in the war in the pacific http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


come on dood we all know that the war was won solely by the US and countries like UK,AUS,NZ had little or insignificant roles to play in the war

e5kimo
10-18-2004, 08:23 PM
i d love to fly the boomerang. for all i know it sucked as a fighter but the boys still managed to make good use of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Eraser_tr
10-18-2004, 09:12 PM
With the cfs version and a 1% fm that stubby little figther could wipe the floor(ocean?) with any japanese plane I flew against. Nice and maneuverable, good firepower, speed lacking just a bit, but good enough. It does not suck as a fighter, and its a really cool looking plane too.

e5kimo
10-18-2004, 09:42 PM
i got the impression that it was a less than optimal fighter from various shows on discovery and national geographic.
hardly a well rounded opinion and even if it 'sucked' it would be my ride of choice .. by a long shot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VF-3Thunderboy
10-18-2004, 10:12 PM
If Oleg put every conceivable aspect into the sim he couldnt do :

FB Pacific

FB Pacific could be a great add-on with all the planes you dont have....for the right price! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

flemsha
10-19-2004, 03:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by e5kimo:
i got the impression that it was a less than optimal fighter from various shows on discovery and national geographic.
hardly a well rounded opinion and even if it 'sucked' it would be my ride of choice .. by a long shot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd fly it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Especially early war, it'd be a great way to start an Aussie campaign, flying the Boomerang, and finally leading into the imported US and UK fighters like the P-40 and Spitfire, finishing up the war in a P-51.

Dimensionaut_
10-19-2004, 10:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DIRTY-MAC:
New nations represented..
Australia, New Zaeland and here Dutch

http://www.france-simulation.com/fichiers/il2/imgpreview/objet7.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He doesn't mean the nations, he means the early aircraft used by those nations.

But let's just face that most people will grab the late and popular planes first, so developpers will make them first.
It's as simple as that.
But who knows what happens. If we are all nice and buy the game we might have a few updates with maybe a nice surprice. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And with these Dutch markings we do have some nice aircraft to fly: Hawk, Brewster, P-40 and B-25. So, we Dutch are at least getting something flyable. And let's not forget the Hurricane, very little known, but we did have them in the NEI.

sopwithkennel
10-19-2004, 03:55 PM
luthier1 told me that we where going to get the CAC Boomerang. I knew it was too good to be true. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Dimensionaut_
10-20-2004, 06:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sopwithkennel:
luthier1 told me that we where going to get the CAC Boomerang. I knew it was too good to be true. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've seen someone at Netwings working on it some time ago....

LEXX_Luthor
10-20-2004, 11:43 AM
From my reading of Fire In Teh Sky, the Wirraway was the best combat aircraft for troop support over Buna (in New Guinea) because the bomb cratered mangrove swamp looked the same everywhere and the slow easily handling Wirraway was ideal for flying over the swamp. All other aircraft were too fast and too unmaneuverable to do the job. Artillery spotting for the few 25 pounders the Aussies had at Buna was best done by Wirraway too. That, and Aussies had the best air-troop communications in the South Pacific at that time.