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WastingMyTIM3
06-06-2011, 09:28 PM
Took a screenshot of it.
Its obviously dates that we will be playing Desmond as.

For one of them : 11032004 - 11/03/2004

What happened that day:

The Madrid train bombings consisted of a series of coordinated bombings against the Cercanías (commuter train) system of Madrid, Spain on the morning of 11 March 2004 (three days before Spain's general elections), killing 191 people and wounding 1,800.

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa354/wastingmytim3/animus2.jpg
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa354/wastingmytim3/animus3.jpg

Analysis away Assassins!

O6EvolutionIXMR
06-06-2011, 09:36 PM
I noticed it too.

The ends of the lines look like parts of a URL or something. Any link to Abstergo's website maybe?

http://www.abstergoindustries.com/

Vex_Assassin
06-06-2011, 10:00 PM
looks alot like youtube url's too at the end

phil.llllll
06-06-2011, 10:11 PM
What's the island test? Guessing that's going to be Desmond's default hangout place in the animus.

kriegerdesgottes
06-06-2011, 10:14 PM
Oh yeah I forgot we finally get to see parts of Desmond's life. Good call on that one. This game is gonna be soo amazing!

twenty_glyphs
06-06-2011, 10:14 PM
Thanks to Killarag's post here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5181026566/m/7481091929?r=8921054929#8921054929), we know there are hexadecimal numbers at the end of these lines as well, and their decryption. Here's the screenshot of that:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4568/screenshot20110606at112.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/screenshot20110606at112.png/)

Just for text reference, the hexadecimal numbers are:

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">54 68 72 65 65 20 6c 69 76 65
73 20 74 6f 69 6c 65 64 2e 20
54 68 72 65 65 20 6c 69 76 65
73 20 6c 6f 73 74 2e 20 54 68
72 65 65 20 6d 65 73 73 61 67
65 73 20 64 65 6c 69 76 65 72
65 64 3a 20 74 68 65 20 67 72
65 65 74 69 6e 67 2c 20 74 68
65 20 77 61 72 6e 69 6e 67 2c
20 74 68 65 20 72 65 76 65 6c
61 74 69 6f 6e 2e</pre>
That translates to:

"Three lives toiled. Three lives lost. Three messages delivered: the greeting, the warning, the revelation."

Obviously the greeting was from Minerva ("Greetings, Prophet. It is good that you have come."), the warning is from Juno, and the revelation is from...? Jupiter? Subject 16? Altair?

The characters at the end of the filenames with dates listed are Base64 encodings. You can tell because some of them are padded with one or two "=" characters -- a tell-tale sign of Base64 encoding. I've copied all of those down along with their Base64 decodings. Have fun!

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">source\S17.anima.06102001.SVJlbWVtYmVy => IRemember
source\S17.anima.21032002.QmxhY2tIaWxscw== => BlackHills
source\S17.anima.16030002.V29vZFNtb2tl => WoodSmoke
source\S17.anima.08212002.TW90aGVyU2Fk => MotherSad
source\S17.anima.08212002.RmF0aGVyTWFk => FatherMad
source\S17.anima.22072002.Tm90aGluZ0lzVHJ1ZQ== => NothingIsTrue
source\S17.anima.22072002.RXZlcnl0aGluZ0lzUGVybWl0 dGVk => EverythingIsPermitted
source\S17.anima.04022003.Qm9yZWRPZldhclN0b3JpZXM= => BoredOfWarStories
source\S17.anima.30082003.UGFpbktpbGxlcnM= => PainKillers
source\S17.anima.23082003.RmFjZXNJblN0b25l => FacesInStone
source\S17.anima.16082003.RXNjYXBl => Escape
source\S17.anima.23082003.V2hhdElzVGhpc1BsYWNl => WhatIsThisPlace
source\S17.anima.16052003.Q2hpY2Fnb0dpcmxz => ChicagoGirls
source\S17.anima.27082003.Tm90RmFyRW5vdWdo => NotFarEnough
source\S17.anima.14082004.MTJUbzY= => 12To6
source\S17.anima.11032004.VGhleVdpbGxGaW5kTWU= => TheyWillFindMe
source\S17.anima.03032005.SnVzdEFDdWx0!Q== => JustACult
source\S17.anima.16082005.V0h***VBUkVZT1Uh => WHEREAREYOU!
source\S17.anima.16082008.U29NdWNoTm9pc2U= => SoMuchNoise
source\S17.anima.12062008.Q0FMTEhPTUUh => CALLHOME!
source\S17.anima.16022009.VGhlRXZlcnl0aGluZ0NpdHk= => TheEverythingCity
source\S17.anima.04022011.SnVzdEFkZEdpbg== => JustAddGin
source\S17.anima.17092011.VGhlSk1a => TheJMZ
source\S16.anima.08082012.SSBBbSBOb3QgQWxpdmU= => I Am Not Alive
source\S17.anima.09082012.QmFkV2VhdGhlcg== => BadWeather
source\S17.anima.10082012.TmluZVllYXJzQWxvbmU= => NineYearsAlone
source\S17.anima.17092012.QXJlWW91RGVzbW9uZE1pbGVz Pw== => AreYouDesmondMiles?
source\S17.anima.19092012.QmFzdGFyZHMh => Bastards!
</pre>
Some interesting things to note are Escape on 8/16/2003. Is this Desmond's 16th birthday when he was said to have escaped the Farm? And the decoding on the very last line, for 9/19/2012, is "Bastards!" Isn't that the first thing Desmond says when Vidic and Lucy pull him out of the Animus at the beginning of first game? That's supposed to have happend on 9/1/2012 or 9/2/2012. This is from right at the time that Brotherhood's email dates pick up, too. There's definitely something fishy going on with the dates and memories we're seeing in Brotherhood's present-day timeline.

phil.llllll
06-06-2011, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
Some interesting things to note are Escape on 8/16/2003. Is this Desmond's 16th birthday when he was said to have escaped the Farm? And the decoding on the very last line, for 9/19/2012, is "Bastards!" Isn't that the first thing Desmond says when Vidic and Lucy pull him out of the Animus at the beginning of first game? That's supposed to have happend on 9/1/2012 or 9/2/2012. This is from right at the time that Brotherhood's email dates pick up, too. There's definitely something fishy going on with the dates and memories we're seeing in Brotherhood's present-day timeline.

Thanks for the decodes. You rock! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Looks like we will be digging pretty deep into Desmond's life as well. 'Bout time! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

And yes, it sounds like Jupiter since we've seen everyone but him.

DBTIGER26
06-06-2011, 10:23 PM
Awesome work!! I'm so ready to play this game!!

Steelers nati0n
06-06-2011, 10:24 PM
The only one marked as subject 16 translates to "I am not alive"

WastingMyTIM3
06-06-2011, 10:27 PM
twenty_glyphs
Very nice,twenty_glyphs!

WastingMyTIM3
06-06-2011, 10:31 PM
Anything else significant with the dates?

twenty_glyphs
06-06-2011, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by aj0280:
The only one marked as subject 16 translates to "I am not alive"

Yeah, it seems like this may be the memory of the final tipping point for Subject 16. We may get to relive this memory of his somehow, see the important stuff he saw, and see him paint the glyphs on the walls. This appears to have happened on 8/8/2012, the month before Desmond first shows up at Abstergo.

The last 2 memories are intriguing -- 9/17/2012: "Are you Desmond Miles?" and 9/19/2012: "Bastards!" I'll wager the "Are you Desmond Miles?" memory is the memory of someone showing up to find Desmond and capture him. Then 2 days later, we get to see what really happened right before the start of Assassin's Creed 1 and Desmond entering the Animus for the first time.

Perhaps the revelation message was delivered by Jupiter to Altair. The greeting would have been given to Ezio, the warning to Desmond, and the revelation to Altair. Interesting that it was so out of order, but probably necessary considering how events would unfold and which memories Desmond would explore first. If true, that would mean Desmond will relive the memory of Ezio reliving the memory of Altair getting this message.

WastingMyTIM3
06-06-2011, 10:37 PM
I got another interesting one.
On May 16, 2003 , it was "ChicagoGirls", assuming Desmond was in Chicago.

Then on the next one. It was August 27,2003.
"NotFarEnough". And here's what happened that day in Chicago.

"Crime: Seven people, including the gunman, are killed in a shooting in Chicago as a worker opens fire on his colleagues at a car parts store. The police shoot the gunman dead."

phil.llllll
06-06-2011, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
The last 2 memories are intriguing -- 9/17/2012: "Are you Desmond Miles?" and 9/19/2012: "Bastards!" I'll wager the "Are you Desmond Miles?" memory is the memory of someone showing up to find Desmond and capture him. Then 2 days later, we get to see what really happened right before the start of Assassin's Creed 1 and Desmond entering the Animus for the first time.


Can't be. Unless they got the dates wrong.


Originally posted by WastingMyTIM3:
I got another interesting one.
On May 16, 2003 , it was "ChicagoGirls", assuming Desmond was in Chicago.



I'm guessing New York is the everythingcity... Seems he really got around on his own.

WastingMyTIM3
06-06-2011, 10:49 PM
I think I found the location of "The Farm"

On June 12, 2008, the message was "CALLHOME"

Heres what happened that day.

"Strong to severe thunderstorms, causing damaging winds, a tornado, and flash flooding, hit mainly southern Wisconsin June 12 2008 southern Wisconsin June 12 2008 - Thursday afternoon and evening. Particularly hard hit was Grant County, WI Grant County, WI, where flash flooding closed numerous roads, destroyed 2 homes, and forced evacuations and rescues. Many secondary roads and bridges were damaged due to the flooding.

twenty_glyphs
06-06-2011, 10:50 PM
Black Hills are probably the Black Hills of South Dakota, and Faces In Stone is likely Mount Rushmore, located in the Black Hills. The Farm might be located nearby...

WoodSmoke could be the name of a park or resort, as there appears to be some RV park/ranch in Illinois by that name, but also in Florida. Makes sense in Illinois since Chicago was also mentioned. Just a shot in the dark.

xsatanicjokerx
06-06-2011, 10:55 PM
Some of those dates could be the memories of Desmond we see/play.

tH3PatRi0Tx1776
06-06-2011, 10:59 PM
22072002
July 22, 2002 "Everything is Permitted"- A few hours after the spiritual leader of Hamas, Ahmed Yassin, offered to halt all suicide attacks in exchange for full Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank and Gaza Strip, an Israeli F-16 jet dropped a bomb into a densely populated residential area of Gaza City. Fifteen people were killed, including Salah Shehade (the leader of Hamas's military wing, the Izz ad-Din el-Qasam Brigades), and more than 100 others were wounded. Nine of the dead were children, including Mohammed al-Huwaiti (aged 4), his brother Subhi (aged 3), Ayman Mattar (aged 1) and Dunya Rami Mattar (aged three months). The United Nations swiftly condemned the action as a flagrant violation of international law. Ariel Sharon, Israel's Prime Minister, said it was "one of our biggest successes", though the Prime Minister's office later added, "it is well known he regrets the killing of civilians."
or its "The director for the third Harry Potter film has been announced as Mexican-born Alfonso Cuarón. Cuarón will start directing "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" next year" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Steelers nati0n
06-06-2011, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by xsatanicjokerx:
Some of those dates could be the memories of Desmond we see/play.

I'm pretty sure they're the titles of the different missions we play as Desmond, and apparently one as s16.

ThaWhistle
06-06-2011, 11:06 PM
some of the decoded codes intrigued me, so i looked them up. it would certainly appear(based on the rambling) that they are messages form subject 16. the definitely seem to be jumping from place to place(and jumping around time periods) with a few exceptions.

12 to 6 can refer to a curveball in baseball, or a wrestling move.

the only thing I can find about "the everything city" is an article about mumbai.

faces in stone could refer to alot of things. theres a crapload of mountains that have rock gorupings resembling a face, theres human figured carved into stones in alot of places, stone statues, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...esemble_human_beings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rock_formations_that_resemble_human_beings )



the black hills are mountains in south dakota, the indian tribe there thought they were sacred. perhaps the farm is there, or something else.

the JMZ might be refering to a train in Brooklyn, New York.

as for the statement just add gin, this jumped out at me for some reason.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foo...hedgerow-heaven.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/3309313/Just-add-gin-to-take-the-sloe-road-to-hedgerow-heaven.html)


i seem to think everything i just said is a crock of **** though. what really interests me is why there would be stuff for subject 17 with those dates, since he doesnt even get captured by abstergo until 2012... curious...

the idea of them being events in desmonds life also makes sense, mother sad, father mad, could refer to him leaving the farm, or doing something that contributed to him leaving.

Steelers nati0n
06-06-2011, 11:12 PM
All of the dates have some important meaning, but all the decoded things at the end just sound like mission titles to me.

Turkiye96
06-06-2011, 11:25 PM
Well we do know he is with the assassin's as it is the animus 2.3

lukaszep
06-07-2011, 01:37 AM
This probably means nothing, but the animus text says islandtest.ageo.
Well Ageo is a place in Japan, and i thought it was probably nothing, but then i noticed this on the wikipedia page...

Ageo Station on the Takasaki Line. It takes about 35 minutes from Ueno Station (Tokyo) to Ageo station by train.
Both Route 16 and 17 run through Ageo.

Those routes are part of the national line. Thought that was a nice little coincedence.

Kaxen6
06-07-2011, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by xsatanicjokerx:
Some of those dates could be the memories of Desmond we see/play.

I hope so.

itsamea-mario
06-07-2011, 02:05 AM
We know so don't we? it was announced we'd be playing segments of desmonds life, so i see no reason to believe these aren't they.

samward
06-07-2011, 02:18 AM
Originally posted by phil.llllll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
The last 2 memories are intriguing -- 9/17/2012: "Are you Desmond Miles?" and 9/19/2012: "Bastards!" I'll wager the "Are you Desmond Miles?" memory is the memory of someone showing up to find Desmond and capture him. Then 2 days later, we get to see what really happened right before the start of Assassin's Creed 1 and Desmond entering the Animus for the first time.


Can't be. Unless they got the dates wrong.


Originally posted by WastingMyTIM3:
I got another interesting one.
On May 16, 2003 , it was "ChicagoGirls", assuming Desmond was in Chicago.



I'm guessing New York is the everythingcity... Seems he really got around on his own. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


What was the date that the Abstergo shows Desmond arriving? And how far off is it with the date listed above?

Assassinsyk
06-07-2011, 03:29 AM
Guys, one thing: The date format is day/month/year, not month/day/year as it is used in US and Canada. Could this mean anything?

Since the dates are probably related to Desmond(?), at least Animus-time, not ancient Rome/Constantinople, I find it a bit weird that it´s not American format, where the current story takes place.

PhiIs1618033
06-07-2011, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by Assassinsyk:
Guys, one thing: The date format is day/month/year, not month/day/year as it is used in US and Canada. Could this mean anything?

Since the dates are probably related to Desmond(?), at least Animus-time, not ancient Rome/Constantinople, I find it a bit weird that it´s not American format, where the current story takes place.
Have you been paying attention? They've been in Italy throughout the games.

Assassin_M
06-07-2011, 03:50 AM
anyone noticed how the Square insignia is replaced with the normal "A" Insignia in the Gameplay

Assassinsyk
06-07-2011, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by PhiIs1618033...:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassinsyk:
Guys, one thing: The date format is day/month/year, not month/day/year as it is used in US and Canada. Could this mean anything?

Since the dates are probably related to Desmond(?), at least Animus-time, not ancient Rome/Constantinople, I find it a bit weird that it´s not American format, where the current story takes place.
Have you been paying attention? They've been in Italy throughout the games. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Besides Monteriggioni, as far as I know(/recall) we haven´t been told the location of Abstergo or Animus? Desmond might still be in Rome, but we don´t know this.

If they´re still in Rome, then this is an important aspect for the story, so at the very least we just confirmed it.

dxsxhxcx
06-07-2011, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
Thanks to Killarag's post here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5181026566/m/7481091929?r=8921054929#8921054929), we know there are hexadecimal numbers at the end of these lines as well, and their decryption. Here's the screenshot of that:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4568/screenshot20110606at112.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/screenshot20110606at112.png/)

Just for text reference, the hexadecimal numbers are:

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">54 68 72 65 65 20 6c 69 76 65
73 20 74 6f 69 6c 65 64 2e 20
54 68 72 65 65 20 6c 69 76 65
73 20 6c 6f 73 74 2e 20 54 68
72 65 65 20 6d 65 73 73 61 67
65 73 20 64 65 6c 69 76 65 72
65 64 3a 20 74 68 65 20 67 72
65 65 74 69 6e 67 2c 20 74 68
65 20 77 61 72 6e 69 6e 67 2c
20 74 68 65 20 72 65 76 65 6c
61 74 69 6f 6e 2e</pre>
That translates to:

"Three lives toiled. Three lives lost. Three messages delivered: the greeting, the warning, the revelation."

Obviously the greeting was from Minerva ("Greetings, Prophet. It is good that you have come."), the warning is from Juno, and the revelation is from...? Jupiter? Subject 16? Altair?

The characters at the end of the filenames with dates listed are Base64 encodings. You can tell because some of them are padded with one or two "=" characters -- a tell-tale sign of Base64 encoding. I've copied all of those down along with their Base64 decodings. Have fun!

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">source\S17.anima.06102001.SVJlbWVtYmVy => IRemember
source\S17.anima.21032002.QmxhY2tIaWxscw== => BlackHills
source\S17.anima.16030002.V29vZFNtb2tl => WoodSmoke
source\S17.anima.08212002.TW90aGVyU2Fk => MotherSad
source\S17.anima.08212002.RmF0aGVyTWFk => FatherMad
source\S17.anima.22072002.Tm90aGluZ0lzVHJ1ZQ== => NothingIsTrue
source\S17.anima.22072002.RXZlcnl0aGluZ0lzUGVybWl0 dGVk => EverythingIsPermitted
source\S17.anima.04022003.Qm9yZWRPZldhclN0b3JpZXM= => BoredOfWarStories
source\S17.anima.30082003.UGFpbktpbGxlcnM= => PainKillers
source\S17.anima.23082003.RmFjZXNJblN0b25l => FacesInStone
source\S17.anima.16082003.RXNjYXBl => Escape
source\S17.anima.23082003.V2hhdElzVGhpc1BsYWNl => WhatIsThisPlace
source\S17.anima.16052003.Q2hpY2Fnb0dpcmxz => ChicagoGirls
source\S17.anima.27082003.Tm90RmFyRW5vdWdo => NotFarEnough
source\S17.anima.14082004.MTJUbzY= => 12To6
source\S17.anima.11032004.VGhleVdpbGxGaW5kTWU= => TheyWillFindMe
source\S17.anima.03032005.SnVzdEFDdWx0!Q== => JustACult
source\S17.anima.16082005.V0h***VBUkVZT1Uh => WHEREAREYOU!
source\S17.anima.16082008.U29NdWNoTm9pc2U= => SoMuchNoise
source\S17.anima.12062008.Q0FMTEhPTUUh => CALLHOME!
source\S17.anima.16022009.VGhlRXZlcnl0aGluZ0NpdHk= => TheEverythingCity
source\S17.anima.04022011.SnVzdEFkZEdpbg== => JustAddGin
source\S17.anima.17092011.VGhlSk1a => TheJMZ
source\S16.anima.08082012.SSBBbSBOb3QgQWxpdmU= => I Am Not Alive
source\S17.anima.09082012.QmFkV2VhdGhlcg== => BadWeather
source\S17.anima.10082012.TmluZVllYXJzQWxvbmU= => NineYearsAlone
source\S17.anima.17092012.QXJlWW91RGVzbW9uZE1pbGVz Pw== => AreYouDesmondMiles?
source\S17.anima.19092012.QmFzdGFyZHMh => Bastards!
</pre>
Some interesting things to note are Escape on 8/16/2003. Is this Desmond's 16th birthday when he was said to have escaped the Farm? And the decoding on the very last line, for 9/19/2012, is "Bastards!" Isn't that the first thing Desmond says when Vidic and Lucy pull him out of the Animus at the beginning of first game? That's supposed to have happend on 9/1/2012 or 9/2/2012. This is from right at the time that Brotherhood's email dates pick up, too. There's definitely something fishy going on with the dates and memories we're seeing in Brotherhood's present-day timeline.

good job dude... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



Originally posted by Assassinsyk:
Guys, one thing: The date format is day/month/year, not month/day/year as it is used in US and Canada. Could this mean anything?

Since the dates are probably related to Desmond(?), at least Animus-time, not ancient Rome/Constantinople, I find it a bit weird that it´s not American format, where the current story takes place.

source\S17.anima.08212002.TW90aGVyU2Fk => MotherSad
source\S17.anima.08212002.RmF0aGVyTWFk => FatherMad

these two dates are in the month/day/year format, unless we had 21 months in 2002...

dxsxhxcx
06-07-2011, 04:51 AM
sorry for the double post, please delete this... :P

roostersrule2
06-07-2011, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
sorry for the double post, please delete this... :P so the farms In America

Turkiye96
06-07-2011, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
Thanks to Killarag's post here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5181026566/m/7481091929?r=8921054929#8921054929), we know there are hexadecimal numbers at the end of these lines as well, and their decryption. Here's the screenshot of that:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4568/screenshot20110606at112.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/screenshot20110606at112.png/)

Just for text reference, the hexadecimal numbers are:

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">54 68 72 65 65 20 6c 69 76 65
73 20 74 6f 69 6c 65 64 2e 20
54 68 72 65 65 20 6c 69 76 65
73 20 6c 6f 73 74 2e 20 54 68
72 65 65 20 6d 65 73 73 61 67
65 73 20 64 65 6c 69 76 65 72
65 64 3a 20 74 68 65 20 67 72
65 65 74 69 6e 67 2c 20 74 68
65 20 77 61 72 6e 69 6e 67 2c
20 74 68 65 20 72 65 76 65 6c
61 74 69 6f 6e 2e</pre>
That translates to:

"Three lives toiled. Three lives lost. Three messages delivered: the greeting, the warning, the revelation."

Obviously the greeting was from Minerva ("Greetings, Prophet. It is good that you have come."), the warning is from Juno, and the revelation is from...? Jupiter? Subject 16? Altair?

The characters at the end of the filenames with dates listed are Base64 encodings. You can tell because some of them are padded with one or two "=" characters -- a tell-tale sign of Base64 encoding. I've copied all of those down along with their Base64 decodings. Have fun!

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">source\S17.anima.06102001.SVJlbWVtYmVy => IRemember
source\S17.anima.21032002.QmxhY2tIaWxscw== => BlackHills
source\S17.anima.16030002.V29vZFNtb2tl => WoodSmoke
source\S17.anima.08212002.TW90aGVyU2Fk => MotherSad
source\S17.anima.08212002.RmF0aGVyTWFk => FatherMad
source\S17.anima.22072002.Tm90aGluZ0lzVHJ1ZQ== => NothingIsTrue
source\S17.anima.22072002.RXZlcnl0aGluZ0lzUGVybWl0 dGVk => EverythingIsPermitted
source\S17.anima.04022003.Qm9yZWRPZldhclN0b3JpZXM= => BoredOfWarStories
source\S17.anima.30082003.UGFpbktpbGxlcnM= => PainKillers
source\S17.anima.23082003.RmFjZXNJblN0b25l => FacesInStone
source\S17.anima.16082003.RXNjYXBl => Escape
source\S17.anima.23082003.V2hhdElzVGhpc1BsYWNl => WhatIsThisPlace
source\S17.anima.16052003.Q2hpY2Fnb0dpcmxz => ChicagoGirls
source\S17.anima.27082003.Tm90RmFyRW5vdWdo => NotFarEnough
source\S17.anima.14082004.MTJUbzY= => 12To6
source\S17.anima.11032004.VGhleVdpbGxGaW5kTWU= => TheyWillFindMe
source\S17.anima.03032005.SnVzdEFDdWx0!Q== => JustACult
source\S17.anima.16082005.V0h***VBUkVZT1Uh => WHEREAREYOU!
source\S17.anima.16082008.U29NdWNoTm9pc2U= => SoMuchNoise
source\S17.anima.12062008.Q0FMTEhPTUUh => CALLHOME!
source\S17.anima.16022009.VGhlRXZlcnl0aGluZ0NpdHk= => TheEverythingCity
source\S17.anima.04022011.SnVzdEFkZEdpbg== => JustAddGin
source\S17.anima.17092011.VGhlSk1a => TheJMZ
source\S16.anima.08082012.SSBBbSBOb3QgQWxpdmU= => I Am Not Alive
source\S17.anima.09082012.QmFkV2VhdGhlcg== => BadWeather
source\S17.anima.10082012.TmluZVllYXJzQWxvbmU= => NineYearsAlone
source\S17.anima.17092012.QXJlWW91RGVzbW9uZE1pbGVz Pw== => AreYouDesmondMiles?
source\S17.anima.19092012.QmFzdGFyZHMh => Bastards!
</pre>
Some interesting things to note are Escape on 8/16/2003. Is this Desmond's 16th birthday when he was said to have escaped the Farm? And the decoding on the very last line, for 9/19/2012, is "Bastards!" Isn't that the first thing Desmond says when Vidic and Lucy pull him out of the Animus at the beginning of first game? That's supposed to have happend on 9/1/2012 or 9/2/2012. This is from right at the time that Brotherhood's email dates pick up, too. There's definitely something fishy going on with the dates and memories we're seeing in Brotherhood's present-day timeline.

Thanks dude you've pretty much cleared it all up, that data is recolections desmonds memories so in the animus we will get to experience them so im guessing pretty much those datas will be the ones shown

dxsxhxcx
06-07-2011, 05:05 AM
since "I am alive" was the name of an achievement in AC: Brotherhood, maybe "I Am Not Alive" and the others are supposed to be the achievements' names in Revelations?!

roostersrule2
06-07-2011, 05:06 AM
For those who have played LA Noire I think these Desmond memories are gonna be like Cole's army memories

GarethNelson
06-07-2011, 05:43 AM
Damn, i've just started trying to decode this myself - transcribed it all incorrectly from the video http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

samward
06-07-2011, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by samward:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by phil.llllll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
The last 2 memories are intriguing -- 9/17/2012: "Are you Desmond Miles?" and 9/19/2012: "Bastards!" I'll wager the "Are you Desmond Miles?" memory is the memory of someone showing up to find Desmond and capture him. Then 2 days later, we get to see what really happened right before the start of Assassin's Creed 1 and Desmond entering the Animus for the first time.


Can't be. Unless they got the dates wrong.


Originally posted by WastingMyTIM3:
I got another interesting one.
On May 16, 2003 , it was "ChicagoGirls", assuming Desmond was in Chicago.



I'm guessing New York is the everythingcity... Seems he really got around on his own. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


What was the date that the Abstergo shows Desmond arriving? And how far off is it with the date listed above? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

can anyone answer my question?

dxsxhxcx
06-07-2011, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by samward:



What was the date that the Abstergo shows Desmond arriving? And how far off is it with the date listed above?

can anyone answer my question?

In August 2012, he was kidnapped and incarcerated at Abstergo Industries
.
In September 2012, Desmond Miles was kidnapped by Abstergo Industries

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Desmond_Miles

both dates are on his page.. I don't remember which one is right.. :P

EDIT: but if we take into consideration what Turkiye96 said about what Desmond said to Vidic (Bastards!), september makes more sense...

17092012 = AreYouDesmondMiles? (Desmond is captured)
19092012 = Bastards (animus session mentioned by Turkiye96)

samward
06-07-2011, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by samward:



What was the date that the Abstergo shows Desmond arriving? And how far off is it with the date listed above?

can anyone answer my question?

In August 2012, he was kidnapped and incarcerated at Abstergo Industries
.
In September 2012, Desmond Miles was kidnapped by Abstergo Industries

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Desmond_Miles

both dates are on his page.. I don't remember which one is right.. :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hmmm...thanks mate.

Also did anyone else notice the lack of horses in all that traveling Ezio did in the trailer?

dxsxhxcx
06-07-2011, 06:39 AM
Originally posted by samward:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by samward:



What was the date that the Abstergo shows Desmond arriving? And how far off is it with the date listed above?

can anyone answer my question?

In August 2012, he was kidnapped and incarcerated at Abstergo Industries
.
In September 2012, Desmond Miles was kidnapped by Abstergo Industries

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Desmond_Miles

both dates are on his page.. I don't remember which one is right.. :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hmmm...thanks mate.

Also did anyone else notice the lack of horses in all that traveling Ezio did in the trailer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I started laughing when I saw the scene where Ezio goes to Masyaf on foot.. lol

samward
06-07-2011, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by samward:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by samward:



What was the date that the Abstergo shows Desmond arriving? And how far off is it with the date listed above?

can anyone answer my question?

In August 2012, he was kidnapped and incarcerated at Abstergo Industries
.
In September 2012, Desmond Miles was kidnapped by Abstergo Industries

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Desmond_Miles

both dates are on his page.. I don't remember which one is right.. :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hmmm...thanks mate.

Also did anyone else notice the lack of horses in all that traveling Ezio did in the trailer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I started laughing when I saw the scene where Ezio goes to Masyaf on foot.. lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah does not seem too smart...not sure what that was all about

ULT1M4T3
06-07-2011, 07:47 AM
Actually, Desmond was being held at Abstergo around 2-7 September, then there are 2 days in AC2. The first e-mails in ACB are from 19 September so something doesn't add up about the last two dates..

E-mails on wiki (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/E-mails)

lukaszep
06-07-2011, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
Thanks to Killarag's post here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5181026566/m/7481091929?r=8921054929#8921054929), we know there are hexadecimal numbers at the end of these lines as well, and their decryption. Here's the screenshot of that:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4568/screenshot20110606at112.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/screenshot20110606at112.png/)

Just for text reference, the hexadecimal numbers are:

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">54 68 72 65 65 20 6c 69 76 65
73 20 74 6f 69 6c 65 64 2e 20
54 68 72 65 65 20 6c 69 76 65
73 20 6c 6f 73 74 2e 20 54 68
72 65 65 20 6d 65 73 73 61 67
65 73 20 64 65 6c 69 76 65 72
65 64 3a 20 74 68 65 20 67 72
65 65 74 69 6e 67 2c 20 74 68
65 20 77 61 72 6e 69 6e 67 2c
20 74 68 65 20 72 65 76 65 6c
61 74 69 6f 6e 2e</pre>
That translates to:

"Three lives toiled. Three lives lost. Three messages delivered: the greeting, the warning, the revelation."

Obviously the greeting was from Minerva ("Greetings, Prophet. It is good that you have come."), the warning is from Juno, and the revelation is from...? Jupiter? Subject 16? Altair?

The characters at the end of the filenames with dates listed are Base64 encodings. You can tell because some of them are padded with one or two "=" characters -- a tell-tale sign of Base64 encoding. I've copied all of those down along with their Base64 decodings. Have fun!

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">source\S17.anima.06102001.SVJlbWVtYmVy => IRemember
source\S17.anima.21032002.QmxhY2tIaWxscw== => BlackHills
source\S17.anima.16030002.V29vZFNtb2tl => WoodSmoke
source\S17.anima.08212002.TW90aGVyU2Fk => MotherSad
source\S17.anima.08212002.RmF0aGVyTWFk => FatherMad
source\S17.anima.22072002.Tm90aGluZ0lzVHJ1ZQ== => NothingIsTrue
source\S17.anima.22072002.RXZlcnl0aGluZ0lzUGVybWl0 dGVk => EverythingIsPermitted
source\S17.anima.04022003.Qm9yZWRPZldhclN0b3JpZXM= => BoredOfWarStories
source\S17.anima.30082003.UGFpbktpbGxlcnM= => PainKillers
source\S17.anima.23082003.RmFjZXNJblN0b25l => FacesInStone
source\S17.anima.16082003.RXNjYXBl => Escape
source\S17.anima.23082003.V2hhdElzVGhpc1BsYWNl => WhatIsThisPlace
source\S17.anima.16052003.Q2hpY2Fnb0dpcmxz => ChicagoGirls
source\S17.anima.27082003.Tm90RmFyRW5vdWdo => NotFarEnough
source\S17.anima.14082004.MTJUbzY= => 12To6
source\S17.anima.11032004.VGhleVdpbGxGaW5kTWU= => TheyWillFindMe
source\S17.anima.03032005.SnVzdEFDdWx0!Q== => JustACult
source\S17.anima.16082005.V0h***VBUkVZT1Uh => WHEREAREYOU!
source\S17.anima.16082008.U29NdWNoTm9pc2U= => SoMuchNoise
source\S17.anima.12062008.Q0FMTEhPTUUh => CALLHOME!
source\S17.anima.16022009.VGhlRXZlcnl0aGluZ0NpdHk= => TheEverythingCity
source\S17.anima.04022011.SnVzdEFkZEdpbg== => JustAddGin
source\S17.anima.17092011.VGhlSk1a => TheJMZ
source\S16.anima.08082012.SSBBbSBOb3QgQWxpdmU= => I Am Not Alive
source\S17.anima.09082012.QmFkV2VhdGhlcg== => BadWeather
source\S17.anima.10082012.TmluZVllYXJzQWxvbmU= => NineYearsAlone
source\S17.anima.17092012.QXJlWW91RGVzbW9uZE1pbGVz Pw== => AreYouDesmondMiles?
source\S17.anima.19092012.QmFzdGFyZHMh => Bastards!
</pre>
Some interesting things to note are Escape on 8/16/2003. Is this Desmond's 16th birthday when he was said to have escaped the Farm? And the decoding on the very last line, for 9/19/2012, is "Bastards!" Isn't that the first thing Desmond says when Vidic and Lucy pull him out of the Animus at the beginning of first game? That's supposed to have happend on 9/1/2012 or 9/2/2012. This is from right at the time that Brotherhood's email dates pick up, too. There's definitely something fishy going on with the dates and memories we're seeing in Brotherhood's present-day timeline.

good job dude... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



Originally posted by Assassinsyk:
Guys, one thing: The date format is day/month/year, not month/day/year as it is used in US and Canada. Could this mean anything?

Since the dates are probably related to Desmond(?), at least Animus-time, not ancient Rome/Constantinople, I find it a bit weird that it´s not American format, where the current story takes place.

source\S17.anima.08212002.TW90aGVyU2Fk => MotherSad
source\S17.anima.08212002.RmF0aGVyTWFk => FatherMad

these two dates are in the month/day/year format, unless we had 21 months in 2002... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah it seems to change...

source\S17.anima.30082003.UGFpbktpbGxlcnM= => PainKillers

That's in day/month/year, or we would have had 30 months in 2003.
So it must be depending on where he is?

RzaRecta357
06-07-2011, 08:46 AM
So, this looks awesome.

Good job guys

I'm excited about QUITE a few things here.

Looks like we'll see Nothing is true everything is permitted as his joining the order. Then we see BoredOfWarStories because he didn't think it was for real and was getting bored of being trapped.

Escape. Then some other stuff and TheyWillFindMe which is obviously the assassins trying to get him.

JustaCult. He thinks they're crazy.

WHEREAREYOU and CALLHOME? Maybe the Templars will find him and he realizes his parents were right.

NineYearsAlone. Guess he doesn't get caught though and lives on his own for years till he decides to get a motorcycle license.

We can almost put the missions together from this....I think they should of left it out but didn't expect you guys to figure it out so fast.

phil.llllll
06-07-2011, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by ULT1M4T3:
Actually, Desmond was being held at Abstergo around 2-7 September, then there are 2 days in AC2. The first e-mails in ACB are from 19 September so something doesn't add up about the last two dates..


According to the instruction manual, AC2 starts on the 17th.

Drakonous505
06-07-2011, 08:57 AM
Hmm, it'll be interesting to play as a younger Desmond for once. Wonder who will voice act for him or if it'll still be Nolan North just changing his voice slightly to sound younger.

ibr-vasif
06-07-2011, 09:20 AM
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">source\S17.anima.06102001.SVJlbWVtYmVy => IRemember
source\S17.anima.21032002.QmxhY2tIaWxscw== => BlackHills
source\S17.anima.16030002.V29vZFNtb2tl => WoodSmoke
source\S17.anima.08212002.TW90aGVyU2Fk => MotherSad
source\S17.anima.08212002.RmF0aGVyTWFk => FatherMad
source\S17.anima.22072002.Tm90aGluZ0lzVHJ1ZQ== => NothingIsTrue
source\S17.anima.22072002.RXZlcnl0aGluZ0lzUGVybWl0 dGVk => EverythingIsPermitted
source\S17.anima.04022003.Qm9yZWRPZldhclN0b3JpZXM= => BoredOfWarStories
source\S17.anima.30082003.UGFpbktpbGxlcnM= => PainKillers
source\S17.anima.23082003.RmFjZXNJblN0b25l => FacesInStone
source\S17.anima.16082003.RXNjYXBl => Escape
source\S17.anima.23082003.V2hhdElzVGhpc1BsYWNl => WhatIsThisPlace
source\S17.anima.16052003.Q2hpY2Fnb0dpcmxz => ChicagoGirls
source\S17.anima.27082003.Tm90RmFyRW5vdWdo => NotFarEnough
source\S17.anima.14082004.MTJUbzY= => 12To6
source\S17.anima.11032004.VGhleVdpbGxGaW5kTWU= => TheyWillFindMe
source\S17.anima.03032005.SnVzdEFDdWx0!Q== => JustACult
source\S17.anima.16082005.V0h***VBUkVZT1Uh => WHEREAREYOU!
source\S17.anima.16082008.U29NdWNoTm9pc2U= => SoMuchNoise
source\S17.anima.12062008.Q0FMTEhPTUUh => CALLHOME!
source\S17.anima.16022009.VGhlRXZlcnl0aGluZ0NpdHk= => TheEverythingCity
source\S17.anima.04022011.SnVzdEFkZEdpbg== => JustAddGin
source\S17.anima.17092011.VGhlSk1a => TheJMZ
source\S16.anima.08082012.SSBBbSBOb3QgQWxpdmU= => I Am Not Alive
source\S17.anima.09082012.QmFkV2VhdGhlcg== => BadWeather
source\S17.anima.10082012.TmluZVllYXJzQWxvbmU= => NineYearsAlone
source\S17.anima.17092012.QXJlWW91RGVzbW9uZE1pbGVz Pw== => AreYouDesmondMiles?
source\S17.anima.19092012.QmFzdGFyZHMh => Bastards!
</pre>

It seems that Ubisoft revealed to us the list of Desmond's memories in the "Black Room" without even knowing that. It looks like that it tracks his life right until the point in time where "Assassin's Creed" starts. Furthermore, we will supposedly play one more "The Truth" memory like it appeared in "AC: B":

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">source\S16.anima.08082012.SSBBbSBOb3QgQWxpdmU= => I Am Not Alive</pre>

It is the only line in the entire code that states source\S16 instead of source\S17. What surprises me is that this memory is called "I am NOT Alive" which contradicts the title of a similar memory ("The Truth" memory) in "AC: B", which was called "I am Alive".

I wonder whether Ubisoft released this code on purpose as a HUGE hint for the players, or just completely screwed up thinking that no one will ever even try to decode the "Animus Message".

Assassin_M
06-07-2011, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by ibr-vasif:
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">source\S17.anima.06102001.SVJlbWVtYmVy => IRemember
source\S17.anima.21032002.QmxhY2tIaWxscw== => BlackHills
source\S17.anima.16030002.V29vZFNtb2tl => WoodSmoke
source\S17.anima.08212002.TW90aGVyU2Fk => MotherSad
source\S17.anima.08212002.RmF0aGVyTWFk => FatherMad
source\S17.anima.22072002.Tm90aGluZ0lzVHJ1ZQ== => NothingIsTrue
source\S17.anima.22072002.RXZlcnl0aGluZ0lzUGVybWl0 dGVk => EverythingIsPermitted
source\S17.anima.04022003.Qm9yZWRPZldhclN0b3JpZXM= => BoredOfWarStories
source\S17.anima.30082003.UGFpbktpbGxlcnM= => PainKillers
source\S17.anima.23082003.RmFjZXNJblN0b25l => FacesInStone
source\S17.anima.16082003.RXNjYXBl => Escape
source\S17.anima.23082003.V2hhdElzVGhpc1BsYWNl => WhatIsThisPlace
source\S17.anima.16052003.Q2hpY2Fnb0dpcmxz => ChicagoGirls
source\S17.anima.27082003.Tm90RmFyRW5vdWdo => NotFarEnough
source\S17.anima.14082004.MTJUbzY= => 12To6
source\S17.anima.11032004.VGhleVdpbGxGaW5kTWU= => TheyWillFindMe
source\S17.anima.03032005.SnVzdEFDdWx0!Q== => JustACult
source\S17.anima.16082005.V0h***VBUkVZT1Uh => WHEREAREYOU!
source\S17.anima.16082008.U29NdWNoTm9pc2U= => SoMuchNoise
source\S17.anima.12062008.Q0FMTEhPTUUh => CALLHOME!
source\S17.anima.16022009.VGhlRXZlcnl0aGluZ0NpdHk= => TheEverythingCity
source\S17.anima.04022011.SnVzdEFkZEdpbg== => JustAddGin
source\S17.anima.17092011.VGhlSk1a => TheJMZ
source\S16.anima.08082012.SSBBbSBOb3QgQWxpdmU= => I Am Not Alive
source\S17.anima.09082012.QmFkV2VhdGhlcg== => BadWeather
source\S17.anima.10082012.TmluZVllYXJzQWxvbmU= => NineYearsAlone
source\S17.anima.17092012.QXJlWW91RGVzbW9uZE1pbGVz Pw== => AreYouDesmondMiles?
source\S17.anima.19092012.QmFzdGFyZHMh => Bastards!
</pre>

It seems that Ubisoft revealed to us the list of Desmond's memories in the "Black Room" without even knowing that. It looks like that it tracks his life right until the point in time where "Assassin's Creed" starts. Furthermore, we will supposedly play one more "The Truth" memory like it appeared in "AC: B":

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">source\S16.anima.08082012.SSBBbSBOb3QgQWxpdmU= => I Am Not Alive</pre>

It is the only line in the entire code that states source\S16 instead of source\S17. What surprises me is that this memory is called "I am NOT Alive" which contradicts the title of a similar memory ("The Truth" memory) in "AC: B", which was called "I am Alive".

I wonder whether Ubisoft released this code on purpose as a HUGE hint for the players, or just completely screwed up thinking that no one will ever even try to decode the "Animus Message".
ahhh hellooooo we are speaking about Ubisoft here, I doubt it was a fluke, it was all planned and let me tell ya the more they reveal pre release, the more WTF moments we will have in the game.trust me

RzaRecta357
06-07-2011, 09:44 AM
It's probably because they have to judge whether we were smart enough to know he was an A.I construct or not.

They assumed we would get it and that he WAS an A.I construct so they added that I am alive thing.

Then people were confused and now they make the I am NOT alive so you kinda get he's an AI now or something.

This is obviously all off the top of my head. But the fans are quite backwards in some things and they probably have to explain things they think they didn't.

I mean...I bet they were surprised at how easy everyone figures out their little pattern codes and what not.

Yet they probably don't understand, like many of us...Why people don't understand why Ezio's "Ghost" was at the villa for Desmond.

It's quite obvious, but we have to answer this question on this forum like every 2 days since the release of brotherhood.

So I don't know...I'm sticking with the he's an AI construct now..with the memories of 16, and this is their way of telling us.


EDIT ---

Just thinking. What do you guys think that memory would actually be? I'm thinking we'll see his random and totally new face that isn't a character we know at all...inside Desmonds bedroom from AC1.

Then he'll do the night escape and "Kill" himself with symbols but then some how injecting his mind into the animus core.

Or else I am NOT alive will just show him killing himself. But then, how did that AI version of himself get there..

twenty_glyphs
06-07-2011, 09:54 AM
I just realized I made a small mistake in transcribing one of the lines, but it doesn't really change the decoded message. I used a "!" instead of an "I" in a line, and Base64 encoded output will never contain a "!" character. But the only difference in using the correct encoding is JustACult now has a "!" after it:

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">source\S17.anima.03032005.SnVzdEFDdWx0IQ== => JustACult!</pre>
I think the "BoredOfWarStories" memory would be Desmond getting bored of all his dad's war stories of being an Assassin, or something along those lines.

I really hope we get to see the Subject 16 memory of his Animus session in Eden and get that fully revealed. Not only will the story revelation be what I've been waiting for, but it would be a lot of fun to free-run in that Eden complex.

RzaRecta357
06-07-2011, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
I just realized I made a small mistake in transcribing one of the lines, but it doesn't really change the decoded message. I used a "!" instead of an "I" in a line, and Base64 encoded output will never contain a "!" character. But the only difference in using the correct encoding is JustACult now has a "!" after it:

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">source\S17.anima.03032005.SnVzdEFDdWx0IQ== => JustACult!</pre>
I think the "BoredOfWarStories" memory would be Desmond getting bored of all his dad's war stories of being an Assassin, or something along those lines.

I really hope we get to see the Subject 16 memory of his Animus session in Eden and get that fully revealed. Not only will the story revelation be what I've been waiting for, but it would be a lot of fun to free-run in that Eden complex.


Yeah kinda like I was saying. In AC1 he didn't even think they were telling the truth anymore he was so bored of it. He thought they were crazy. His ideas of templars was what he probably read about when he left the farm.

JustaCult! is probably him thinking the assassins and his family are insane.

luludragon20
06-11-2011, 07:07 AM
so, as we are seeing desmonds early life was in america, could it be related somehow with the coosdinates given in the end of the da vinci dissapearence, who lead to turin-NY?

itsamea-mario
06-11-2011, 07:20 AM
Justaddgin - reference to him being a bartender?

reini03
06-11-2011, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Justaddgin - reference to him being a bartender?

Probably. That would be the 4th of February 2011... or the 2nd of April.
I'm curious about the "TheEverythingCity". It's pretty obvious that means he's entered a city... but... which one? Is there any city that's called "The Everything City"? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

itsamea-mario
06-11-2011, 08:45 AM
New york? (the big apple omigosh...)

rileypoole1234
06-11-2011, 09:13 AM
"Three lives toiled. Three lives lost. Three messages delivered: the greeting, the warning, the revelation."
Three Lives Lost? Does this possibly mean that Lucy is actually dead and Rebecca and Shaun will die too? Hmm...

KaiserC96
06-11-2011, 01:55 PM
i think "three lives toiled" is that desmond has travelled through three lives - altiar, ezio, and his own. "three lives lost" again, those three lives as they are all dead (maybe not desmond, considering the black room thing so im a little sketchy on that) "three messages delivered" those same three lives, altair is the first to know about all this stuff, ezio being warned of the future and stuff, and desmonds answers.

O6EvolutionIXMR
06-11-2011, 03:03 PM
source\S17.anima.23082003.RmFjZXNJblN0b25l => FacesInStone

Could that be linked to this?

Mars(which is mostly made up of Stone) reached it's closest approach to Earth in almost 60,000 years on August 23rd, 2003.
Article:
http://hubblesite.org/gallery/printshop/ps10/

Faces on Mars...

http://www.scienceclarified.com/scitech/images/lsem_0001_0001_0_img0017.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/comeback/iblog/Personal/B114471509/C454132954/E20061026003734/Media/face1yt3.jpg

Could also have something to do with the Stone Faces(of mostly Greek Gods) on Mount Nemrut in Turkey. But I couldn't find anything that linked them to that date.
http://www.photoseek.com/99TUR-47-31-Nemrut-heads-W-terrace.jpg
http://www.photoseek.com/99TUR-49-26-Zeus-Nemrut-Dagi.jpg
http://www.photoseek.com/99TUR-47-17-Sunset-head-Nemrut-Dagi.jpg

Link:

http://www.photoseek.com/Turkey.html




Just speculating. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

john63
06-11-2011, 06:34 PM
Hot damn! I can't believe Ubisoft would give us this much! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Havok-Trance
06-12-2011, 01:59 AM
Hey everybody, I usually creep on these thread, but I just made an account because this is definitely I want to add my two-bits on. I believe that they are missions to be played as Desmond... Can't freaking wait! And I'm okay with subject 16, just want to see what he saw before he died though.

October 6th, 2001 - As no historical dates of this day exist I'd have to say that it's two months after he turns 14 and he probably begins training. I'm sure that he started some form of training because while he isn't skilled in the beginning he had to of had some form of training to get by for 9 years alone hiding from Templars and Assassins. (could also be his best memory)

March 21, 2002 - Historically this was the date of a death trial, but that was in Pakistan sooo no. I believe that this is a training date, possibly being in the great plains, I'm not sure.

March 16, 2002 - 5 days before great plains, possibly in Illinois. Tracking a run away or maybe a Templar looking for them

August 21, 2002 - Possibly a death of someone in the Farm, maybe Desmond's sibling. I always thought he'd had an older brother, someone he connected to, after that brother dies he loses his connection to his parents.

July 22, 2002 - Month previous, establishes the relationship between member of farm, hopefully older brother that dies next month.

February 4, 2003 - Desmond finally getting sick of everything, he breaks down and tells his father off about his crazy war stories.

August 30, 2003 - Desmond probably has gotten his *** kicked or badly injured at Stone face area

August 23, 2003 - Finds some form of mountainous or rock formations, actual combat maybe?

August 16, 2003 - Play through Desmond's escape from the farm

August 23, 2003 - Back at Rock place, see when he finds it

May 16, 2003 - Possibly an assassin from the Farm died in the Chicago shooting, or Desmond and the other Assassins head into Chicago and maybe are some of the people killed?

August 27, 2003 - Desmond gets some way far away from the Farm, but finds signs that they are tracking him.

August 14, 2004 - Maybe at a baseball game trying to keep his head low, or maybe just trying to experience the outside life.

March 11, 2005 - maybe he's in the Madrid accident, and is convinced that the Assassin's are after him

March 3, 2005 - He's finally convinced that no one is after him and that the Assassin's are just nut cases

August 16, 2005 - Something serious has happened and he's running maybe trying to hide. Maybe Templars?

August 16, 2008 - Something happens again, or maybe he just is having a bad day?

June 12, 2008 - bad Weather in Wisconsin, like WastingMYTIM3 said, and he gets worried.

February 16, 2009 - He's probably in New York

February 04, 2011 - He becomes a Bartender

September 17, 2001 - He's definitely in the subway of New York, maybe Templars are after him?

August 8, 2012 - Final day of Subject 16's life? see his mind become one with the Animus?

August 9, 2012 - Bad weather, to symbolize 16's death?

August 10, 2012 - Desmond looks back on the nine years, maybe depressed?

September 17 and 19, 2012 - I think they will be Cinematic sequences about Lucy and Desmond's relationship. IDK but I'm definite that she is NOT DEAD, they even added her name in the DLC and in the Game informer coverage.

These are all assumptions from a massive Obsessive nerd spectacular :333

DylanJosh9
06-18-2011, 12:12 AM
Holy crap guys this is amazing. Good work

almostmorning
06-20-2011, 06:49 PM
16-03-0002 => WoodSmoke ? ?
06-10-2001 => IRemember
Desmond is 14 years old Desmond has to go back to the last stable memory of his in order to repair his consciousness: 14 year old Desmond, growing up at a farm leads a normal life. We get to meet his family (parents, brothers, sisters, friends) and see a boy whose easy going manner and charm is comparable to Ezio’s rather than the future Desmond’s

21-03-2002 => BlackHills Black Hills (Pahá Sápa in Lakota, Mo??hta-vo?honáaeva in Cheyenne)
South Dakota to Wyoming (USA)
Desmond realized that something is going on in the “Black Hills”, as everytime one of his friends turns 16 he is hiking up there with some other members of the family (or alone to prove his worthyness?)He asks an older friend what that rite is about, all he says though is, that this hike is going to be life changing (to build up the tension XD)

22-07-2002 => NothingIsTrue Desmond is sent out into the woods in order to discover “the truth”... or what is meant by the creed (some kind of survival training), maybe alongside a friend his age?

22-07-2002 => EverythingIsPermitted The following month they are out there trying to figure out the meaning of the creed. But at the end of the month something happens... the “Everything is permitted” could have been misinterpreted by his fellow friend. Maybe some kind of betrayal alongside a lie of either one of them...

21-08-2002 => MotherSad
(Accountancy scandals: WorldCom announced it had discovered $3.3 billion in false accounting in addition to the $3.8 billion discovered earlier.
Assassin funds lost?)
As a result of the betrayal the boys are hurt, or Desmond’s friend dies. Desmond’s knows that it was to some part his fault and doesn’t speak up to the accusations and rumours which begin to spread. (friend either dead or doesn’t want to admit it was also his fault, or Desmond covers him)

21-08-2002 => FatherMad
(The Federal Communications Commission votes to require television manufacturers to include digital tuners in nearly all televisions by 2007.Abstergo controls TVs?)
Of course this means a huge dishonour to the family’s name. Desmond is told that he doesn’t live up to it and that he is a disappointment

04-02-2003 => BoredOfWarStories
16 year old Desmond getting fed up? Desmond’s dad keeps telling him how brave and strong his ancestors and fellow Assassins were/are and finally has had enough of it.

16-05-2003 => ChicagoGirls
Desmond is sent to the Assassin outpost in Chicago. Something like a second chance after the incident at the Black Hills. Instead he is planning his escape, and he has help: He gets to know somebody who seems to want to leave as well, an engineer (Des’ first love? Her could be Eve or Edith ? pet name = Eden)

16-08-2003 => Escape
“At Chicago's Midway International Airport, Southwest Airlines employees spent 48 hours dealing with the disorder caused by the blackout's sudden incidence.”
The Northeast Blackout of 2003 was a widespread power outage that occurred throughout parts of the North-eastern and Midwestern United States and Ontario, Canada
Was Desmond there? Did he use it to escape?
Under the pretence of returning to the farm, they leave for the train station (more likely than airport; tight security there) But they are being followed (Assassin security backup). That’s when their real plan comes into action: On remote command they cause the Northeast Blackout of 2003 and, using the disorder caused by the sudden incidence, manage to vanish.
16th birthday

23-08-2003 => FacesInStone
Mount Rushmore National Memorial is a sculpture carved into the granite face of Mount Rushmore, Black Hills Region, South Dakota, United States
But of course there was a catch in the plan: For Eden’s help to get out Desmond has to join her to a quest which consists of finding a hidden vault inside Mt. Rushmore

23-08-2003 => WhatIsThisPlace Desmond having a closer look at Mt. Rushmore (inside)? What did he find?
Desmond makes his first contact with those who came before but has no idea what it is about. Only as he now relives this suppressed memory Des can make sense of it.
Unfortunately for Des Eve had never planned to let him go, she only wanted his help, so she forces him back to Chicago. A bitter betrayal.

27-08-2003 => NotFarEnough
"Crime: Seven people, including the gunman, are killed in a shooting in Chicago as a worker opens fire on his colleagues at a car parts store. The police shoot the gunman dead."
At their return to Chicago the duo is being ambushed by a templar team. Four men hold them and one threatens them with a gun. A young police officer can be persuaded into helping them. Together they take the Templers down. Eve shoots all of them in cold blood as there cannot be any witnesses. When she wants to kill the police officer as well Des knocks her out. He thanks the police officer who promises to invent a believable story. Des carries Eve to a secure place and leaves her unconscious body for good.

30-08-2003 => PainKillers
Unfortunately Des couldn’t avoid being wounded. Physically and mentally. The betrayal of Eve sits very deep, and he realises that there was more than friendship between them. Des manages to steal some money and gets himself some painkillers. Killing his pain and senses.

11-03-2004 => TheyWillFindMe
Half a year later we see Des again. Self-pity having turned into paranoia: he never stays at one place for long, his former charm and easy going manner have vanished entirely. He tries not to have any friends in order to protect the people around him; he never uses his real name and survives by doing odd jobs.

14-08-2004 => 12To6
The 12–6 curveball is one of the types of pitches thrown in baseball. It is categorized as a breaking ball because of its downward break. The pitch is used throughout Major League Baseball.
Desmond playing Baseball?
Despite himself Desmond has fallen in love. A girl he met whilst working on some odd job of his. (Let’s call her Rose to simplify it) Her parents start seeing through his thick skin and the nice guy behind. Des coolness begins to thaw. He teaches his Rose’s younger brother baseball and explains the 12-6 to him. Rose’s parents smile at each other.

03-03-2005 => JustACult
Scientists at Florida State University conclude that Homo floresiensis is a separate species from Homo sapiens and belongs in the Homo genus through computer mapping of its brain.
Homo florensis – the people who came before?
Des has stayed. For the first time in years he feels home again, he found work at Rose’s father company and has a room in the family’s house as he is considered a member of it by now.
Rose is studying for a history exam: The crusades and she is studying aloud. When she starts to confuse things regarding the Assassin order and Desmond accidentally corrects him at a very specific detail Rose manages to dig deeper and is amazed by his knowledge of the Assassin Order passed on by Des’ father and speculates whether the stories might be true and what if it still existed, Desmond – hating to be reminded of his past – calls it “just a stupid cult” and leaves.

16-08-2005 => WHEREAREYOU!
Rose is concerned about Desmond’s avoidance of his family. She tells him that they are probably worried about him, after all he might even have died by now. Desmond tries to explain the situation as good as he can without telling her of the Assassins: That he had disgraced his family’s name; that he ran away; claiming they probably despised him by now. Rose reassures him that he must be wrong, every parent would be happy to hear of their child being safe and sound – and happy.
Desmond agrees to call them, but he doesn’t trust his parents enough to use the houses phone. He gets his hands on a secure line and calls his parents, they are happy to hear that he is still alive but try to pressure him to return, when he tells them that he plans to remain they order him to give them his position. Desmond hangs up.

12-06-2008 => CALLHOME!
"Strong to severe thunderstorms, causing damaging winds, a tornado, and flash flooding, hit mainly southern Wisconsin June 12 2008 southern Wisconsin
Ecuadorean police arrest four men including three Colombians on suspicion of plotting an assassination of the President of Ecuador Rafael Correa
In the past three years Desmond’s secrecy about his past has opened several chasms between the couple. So Rose has left it up to Desmond to decide: Either he told her everything or it was over. When Des hears first of the flooding in Wisconsin and later – even worse – the arrest of an Assassin in Equador he decides that his time in Paradise was over and that he finally has to face reality. So he leaves Rose and heads back to the farm. But he realises that he can’t just walk in and act as if he had never run away, so he decides to come in at night, to give his parents the choice of sending him away again – if they were still alive. His hesitation turns out to be his luck. When he arrives at the farm at night he discovers that it had been overrun and taken by the templars. He manages to talk himself out of the situation, claiming to be a hiker lost in the mountains. He leaves, hoping that at least the farms inhabitants might have escaped.

16-08-2008 => SoMuchNoise
2008 Atlantic Hurricane season: The Governor of Florida Charlie Crist declares a state of emergency as Tropical Storm Fay is due to hit Florida on Monday, possibly at hurricane strength.
Des back with his odd-job lifestyle - just with fewer painkillers. Today is his 21st birthday and a friend has taken him to a party. Girls are flirting with him but he ignores them, he hasn’t yet forgotten rose. He hates the city, it’s too crowded, too fast, too loud. His friend tells him he’ll get used to it in no time. Desmond looks doubtful.

16-02-2009 => TheEverythingCity
Everythin City as a soccer term? The Everything City versus United = Manchester’s City team vs. Manchester United
Half a year later we see a grumpy but obviously well trained Desmond waking up in his bed a woman next to him and he frowns at her... obviously trying to remember her name. It seems quite clear that Des managed to adapt the nocturnal lifestyle. We also see his tattoo for the first time. We see him picking up a few belonging – including a driver’s licence – and leaving the apartment. We see a few scenes of Des actually enjoying living in a city as he is able to blend perfectly into the crowds, having mastered social stealth. And he seems to be quite some bad-*** daredevil.

04-02-2011 => JustAddGin
Desmond starts to work as a bartender? Two years later in a different City, this time it is NY – more specific Little Italy. Here he works as a bartender – and he’s good at it, by now he seems quite immune to the lady’s charms. He seems to still enjoy city life but is no longer a daredevil. He has matured and seems to have taken control of his life.

17-09-2011 => TheJMZ
JMZ Records – Brooklyn, New York
Canal St JMZ Subway Station, New York, NY
Des is on his was home using the Underground (JMZ6). He greets several friends in Italian and even talks a few words in their mothertongue. When he suddenly has the odd feeling of being followed. He manages to shake him off. Or at least it looks like it.

08-08-2012 => I Am Not Alive
This time we find ourselves not in Desmond’s body but rather in the persona of Subject 16. While he is diverting the crazed part of himself with repainting the room a self-aware part of him manages to explain what has really happened to him. We watch his physical form die while he manages to load another part of himself – into Ezio’s memories

09-08-2012 => BadWeather
Abstergo News Wire Service, Sep. 3, 13:44
Hurricane Season Ends... But not in the way you think:
Increasingly erratic weather patterns have caused the Global Weather Association to abolish the term 'Hurricane Season'. Once confined to the months of June through November, hurricane duration, frequency, strength, and location have increased to the point where most coastal cities must now live in constant fear of these devastating storms.
We see Desmond working as a bartender, but this time in a different bar. Watching the Abstergo News Wire Service Channel discussing the strange weather patterns. An old man sitting at the bar talks to Des, claiming that this couldn’t be normal. To Desmond he makes the impression of a conspiracy theorists and he seems pretty contempt in ignoring his theories about the world being ruled by shadow companies...

10-08-2012 => NineYearsAlone
Almost nine years =) ... escape is dated 16-08-2003
Six days before Des’ 25th birthday he is sitting in front of a computer in an internet café, an almost full notebook besides him. He looks like a man who has been looking for something for a long time without success. The suddenly he looks up at the screen and we see the starting screen of the Hephaestus Email Network. He tries to login but somehow it denies him access. Frustrated he leaves, forgetting to delete the history directory.

17-09-2012 => AreYouDesmondMiles?
A week later at the bar. Desmond is obviously in a very bad mood and it’s already late. The guests are leaving and Des starts cleaning up the mess, although it doesn’t seem to be worth the effort regarding the ramshackle look of the bar. After everybody has left and he is standing with his back to the door it opens again. He tells the intruder without turning around that the bar is already closed. But when the newcomer doesn’t leave Desmond turns around and sees a beautiful woman standing in front of him. But that isn’t the most surprising thing, rather it is the question she asks him: “Are you Desmond Miles?”. Of course Des first denies it but the woman convinces him that she is an ally – an Assassin herself. She tells him that they are aware of his attempt of contacting them and that he is urgently needed, as there have been major setbacks lately. They expect him at Milan, Italy asap.
She hands him over a fake passport and a flight ticket and tells him someone is awaiting him at the airport in Milan.
At the airport in Milan the inspectors have a very close look at the passport – there seems to be something amiss but then they hold it below a UV-scanner and immediately hand it back to him and let him pass. Desmond – using his broken Italian asks what was wrong, the inspector replies (“Quest’era il Triangolo inguantato, il logotipo della questa ditta americana famosa…” That was the intertwined triangle, the logo of this famous American company), but unfortunately Des doesn’t understand it – he just shrugs and leaves towards the man obviously expecting him as there is nobody else left in the hall. When they get into the car the other man offers him a drink and Des thankfully accepts it. Only when his sight starts to darken out he recognises the templar ring the man is wearing.

19-09-2012 => Bastards!
And of course everybody knows what happened when Des finally regained his consciousness and his first word: “Bastards”

Well I hope you like my – freely interpreted – version, if not... well just skip it. it's quite obvious that I have too much spare time XD ...

Th3spian777
06-20-2011, 07:40 PM
Holy crap bro, have you ever thought about making all that into a fanfiction? I think it's a GREAT idea http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LiTos456
06-20-2011, 09:39 PM
Lol, Ubi has nowhere to run with all this, they give us a tiny piece of thing and we figure everything out. Crazy huh.

CRUDFACE
06-21-2011, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by LiTos456:
Lol, Ubi has nowhere to run with all this, they give us a tiny piece of thing and we figure everything out. Crazy huh.

Seems like it, but they'll find a way. Hell, they could just read all the speculation and make sure to write something different instead. If Assassin's Creed has ever done anything, it's been throwing WTF endings in my face. Lol, can't wait for it!

Th3spian777
06-21-2011, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LiTos456:
Lol, Ubi has nowhere to run with all this, they give us a tiny piece of thing and we figure everything out. Crazy huh.

Seems like it, but they'll find a way. Hell, they could just read all the speculation and make sure to write something different instead. If Assassin's Creed has ever done anything, it's been throwing WTF endings in my face. Lol, can't wait for it! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I know what you mean bro! It's gonna be good to finally get some answers though

Sangine12
06-21-2011, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by O6EvolutionIXMR:
source\S17.anima.23082003.RmFjZXNJblN0b25l => FacesInStone

Could that be linked to this?

Mars(which is mostly made up of Stone) reached it's closest approach to Earth in almost 60,000 years on August 23rd, 2003.
Article:
http://hubblesite.org/gallery/printshop/ps10/

Faces on Mars...

http://www.scienceclarified.com/scitech/images/lsem_0001_0001_0_img0017.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/comeback/iblog/Personal/B114471509/C454132954/E20061026003734/Media/face1yt3.jpg

Could also have something to do with the Stone Faces(of mostly Greek Gods) on Mount Nemrut in Turkey. But I couldn't find anything that linked them to that date.
http://www.photoseek.com/99TUR-47-31-Nemrut-heads-W-terrace.jpg
http://www.photoseek.com/99TUR-49-26-Zeus-Nemrut-Dagi.jpg
http://www.photoseek.com/99TUR-47-17-Sunset-head-Nemrut-Dagi.jpg

Link:

http://www.photoseek.com/Turkey.html




Just speculating. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

One of the features in the Cydonia region, the "face on Mars" (about 1.5 kilometers (one mile) across), has had special notoriety in Western culture since it was imaged in 1976, because it looks like a face. This naturally occurring pareidolia, has also inspired science fiction literature which typically assume it is a non-natural structure. For comparison, an example of naturally occurring pareidolia on Earth, was New Hampshire's Old Man of the Mountain.

Rashid ad-Din Sinan, also known as The Old Man of the Mountain c. 1132/1135 - 1192) was one of the leaders of the Syrian wing of the Hashshashin sect and a figure in the history of the Crusades.


Mind..blown.

BK-110
06-21-2011, 12:55 PM
@L4N3v3

You forgot one thing. According to Lucy, the reason Abstergo found Desmond was that he got a motorcycle license, meaning that he gave his photo and fingerprint.

CRUDFACE
06-21-2011, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by BK-110:
@L4N3v3

You forgot one thing. According to Lucy, the reason Abstergo found Desmond was that he got a motorcycle license, meaning that he gave his photo and fingerprint.

And that he can't just stumble onto the Farm, it's off the grid, so if he was caught there, he'd get screwed

Moultonborough
06-21-2011, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BK-110:
@L4N3v3

You forgot one thing. According to Lucy, the reason Abstergo found Desmond was that he got a motorcycle license, meaning that he gave his photo and fingerprint.

And that he can't just stumble onto the Farm, it's off the grid, so if he was caught there, he'd get screwed </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, but remember that Abstergo found it and pretty much killed them all. If they can find it off the grid others can to if they try hard enough. Even the Assassin HQ.

CRUDFACE
06-22-2011, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Moultonborough:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BK-110:
@L4N3v3

You forgot one thing. According to Lucy, the reason Abstergo found Desmond was that he got a motorcycle license, meaning that he gave his photo and fingerprint.

And that he can't just stumble onto the Farm, it's off the grid, so if he was caught there, he'd get screwed </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, but remember that Abstergo found it and pretty much killed them all. If they can find it off the grid others can to if they try hard enough. Even the Assassin HQ. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're saying that if abstergo found it, anyone can? It's off the grid, in a desert somewhere, and a guy comes really close, like on the edge of the compound , a person doesn't just stumble in there like that. While they're occupying the place no less.

They'd question him and stuff, yah know? Or just kill him. The guy who found that secret channel got silenced.

almostmorning
06-22-2011, 05:48 AM
@BK-110
ok, you got me XD - found another problem as well... i forgot the call at "callhome" XD, was probably too deep into specutation, and to my defense: it was 3.30 am (my time) :P

almostmorning
06-22-2011, 05:54 AM
@t260z
quite a bit of work to change everything because someone is having a lucky day and makes a right guess. And I belive the story has already been written anyway.
I also dare say that if everybody posted his/her speculations here we'd probaby manage to get one thing right or the other - just because of the amount of ideas. Anyway I'll love to pay this certain discussion another visit after AC:R has been released, just to see who has had the best guess =)

almostmorning
06-22-2011, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by Emotionisdead:
Holy crap bro, have you ever thought about making all that into a fanfiction? I think it's a GREAT idea http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

thanks =) but I doubt I'd manage to finish anything longer... too much DaVinci within me :P

almostmorning
06-22-2011, 06:04 AM
@O6EvolutionIXMR:


Just speculating. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Well - that seems the point of this discussion anyway =)
And I doubt Ubi would have shown us this code without hoping that someone might crack it. Especially after all the symbolysm and hidden messages in the games.

ProletariatPleb
06-22-2011, 09:50 AM
I guess some of you must've seen interviews with Alex Amancio, he tells about the black room(notice the trailers of previous ACs have Assassin's Creed written on white background, this one is on black-just like dos/cmd) being some low level operating system, that isn't very user-friendly BUT powerful, and he did mention we'll see Desmond's life(before being in Abstergo). This black OS uses entry points to enter memories.
So maybe those numbers shown as the loading of the animus are dates as some of you said.

Orochimaru123
06-26-2011, 01:45 PM
Howdy, folks. My friend and I just noticed something about the chronology of the source codes; namely, they're out of order. We took the time to arrange them, and came up with this:

S17 16/03/0002=> WoodSmoke
S17 06/10/2001=> IRemember
S17 21/03/2002=> BlackHills
S17 22/07/2002=> NothingIsTrue
S17 22/07/2002=> EverythingIsPermitted
S17 21/08/2002=> MotherSad
S17 21/08/2002=> FatherMad
S17 04/02/2003=> BoredOfWarStories
S17 16/05/2003=> ChicagoGirls
S17 16/08/2003=> Escape
S17 23/08/2003=> WhatIsThisPlace
S17 23/08/2003=> FacesInStone
S17 27/08/2003=> NotFarEnough
S17 30/08/2003=> PainKillers
S17 14/08/2004=> 12To6
S17 11/03/2004=> TheyWillFindMe
S17 03/03/2005=> JustACult
S17 16/08/2005=> WHEREAREYOU!
S17 16/08/2008=> SoMuchNoise
S17 12/06/2008=> CALLHOME!
S17 16/02/2009=> TheEverythingCity
S17 04/02/2011=> JustAddGin
S17 17/09/2011=> TheJMZ
S16 08/08/2012=> I Am Not Alive
S17 09/08/2012=> BadWeather
S17 10/08/2012=> NineYearsAlone
S17 17/09/2012=> AreYouDesmondMiles?
S17 19/09/2012=> Bastards!

Now, there's room for error because of the varying date formats. For example, CALLHOME! could be either before or after SoMuchNoise, if one reverses the 12 and the 6. Similarly, TheyWillFindMe could be before or after 12To6.

We noticed several oddities, too.

1. WoodSmoke's date is 16/03/0002. I triple-checked the original screenshots, and this is NOT an error.
2. The order of PainKillers, FacesInStone, and Escape is reversed - it becomes Escape, FacesInStone, PainKillers.
3. The Assassin's Creed (NothingIsTrue, EverythingIsPermitted) shifts to before MotherSad, FatherMad.
4. NotFarEnough jumps way back to in between FacesInStone and PainKillers.
5. WhatIsThisPlace makes a similar move, to the same position as FacesInStone.

There may be others, but I haven't spotted any and neither has my friend.

What are your thoughts on this new chronology?

P.S. With regards to the post above mine, you mentioned a Black Room that is noted in the interviews.

According to Wikipedia, a Black Room is "a secret room in a post office, and, later and by extension, a telecommunications center used by state officials to conduct clandestine interception and surveillance of communications. Typically all letters or communications would pass through the black room before being passed to the recipient."

PjotrSpot
06-27-2011, 08:01 AM
What I've noticed is that there's a silence of EXACTLY three years between the entries of WHEREAREYOU! and SoMuchNoise. Anyone have any theories to what could've happened in the space of those years?

Reamis
06-28-2011, 11:22 AM
Guys! I found Something interesting.

S17 16/03/0002=> WoodSmoke
S17 06/10/2001=> IRemember
S17 21/03/2002=> BlackHills
S17 22/07/2002=> NothingIsTrue
S17 22/07/2002=> EverythingIsPermitted
S17 21/08/2002=> MotherSad
S17 21/08/2002=> FatherMad
S17 04/02/2003=> BoredOfWarStories
S17 16/05/2003=> ChicagoGirls
S17 16/08/2003=> Escape
S17 23/08/2003=> WhatIsThisPlace
S17 23/08/2003=> FacesInStone
S17 27/08/2003=> NotFarEnough
S17 30/08/2003=> PainKillers
S17 14/08/2004=> 12To6
S17 11/03/2004=> TheyWillFindMe
S17 03/03/2005=> JustACult
S17 16/08/2005=> WHEREAREYOU!
S17 16/08/2008=> SoMuchNoise
S17 12/06/2008=> CALLHOME!
S17 16/02/2009=> TheEverythingCity
S17 04/02/2011=> JustAddGin
S17 17/09/2011=> TheJMZ
S16 08/08/2012=> I Am Not Alive
S17 09/08/2012=> BadWeather
S17 10/08/2012=> NineYearsAlone
S17 17/09/2012=> AreYouDesmondMiles?
S17 19/09/2012=> Bastards!

It Says S16 Not S17
It means that we will play Subject 16 Memory!

PjotrSpot
06-28-2011, 01:39 PM
The thing is, if these are ALL memory sequences we will be playing, we'll be playing more than 20 memories as Desmond alone, regardless of the Ezio/Altair storylines which should be the main part of the game...

I doubt it!

Subject247
06-28-2011, 04:04 PM
My belief is this: These are cutscenes, not missions. I belive Desmond Miles never saw any real action before his abduction.

Putting ANY action heavy sequence into his past would make him a rather unbelivable character, I don't say that it would ruin the story, but it would make me facewall.

twenty_glyphs
06-28-2011, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Subject247:
My belief is this: These are cutscenes, not missions. I belive Desmond Miles never saw any real action before his abduction.

Putting ANY action heavy sequence into his past would make him a rather unbelivable character, I don't say that it would ruin the story, but it would make me facewall.

I agree. I've started to think that we'll likely see Desmond's memories as cutscenes that his Animus avatar (with the black hoodie) will see projected on the geometry of the world around him. Or they could be like the Altair cutscenes from AC1, where the action will be happening around him and Desmond's avatar will be able to walk through/around the memories as they play out in 3D space. That would be kind of cool and trippy.

scope2005
06-28-2011, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by L4N3v3:
16-03-0002 => WoodSmoke ? ?
06-10-2001 => IRemember
Desmond is 14 years old Desmond has to go back to the last stable memory of his in order to repair his consciousness: 14 year old Desmond, growing up at a farm leads a normal life. We get to meet his family (parents, brothers, sisters, friends) and see a boy whose easy going manner and charm is comparable to Ezio’s rather than the future Desmond’s

21-03-2002 => BlackHills Black Hills (Pahá Sápa in Lakota, Mo??hta-vo?honáaeva in Cheyenne)
South Dakota to Wyoming (USA)
Desmond realized that something is going on in the “Black Hills”, as everytime one of his friends turns 16 he is hiking up there with some other members of the family (or alone to prove his worthyness?)He asks an older friend what that rite is about, all he says though is, that this hike is going to be life changing (to build up the tension XD)

22-07-2002 => NothingIsTrue Desmond is sent out into the woods in order to discover “the truth”... or what is meant by the creed (some kind of survival training), maybe alongside a friend his age?

22-07-2002 => EverythingIsPermitted The following month they are out there trying to figure out the meaning of the creed. But at the end of the month something happens... the “Everything is permitted” could have been misinterpreted by his fellow friend. Maybe some kind of betrayal alongside a lie of either one of them...

21-08-2002 => MotherSad
(Accountancy scandals: WorldCom announced it had discovered $3.3 billion in false accounting in addition to the $3.8 billion discovered earlier.
Assassin funds lost?)
As a result of the betrayal the boys are hurt, or Desmond’s friend dies. Desmond’s knows that it was to some part his fault and doesn’t speak up to the accusations and rumours which begin to spread. (friend either dead or doesn’t want to admit it was also his fault, or Desmond covers him)

21-08-2002 => FatherMad
(The Federal Communications Commission votes to require television manufacturers to include digital tuners in nearly all televisions by 2007.Abstergo controls TVs?)
Of course this means a huge dishonour to the family’s name. Desmond is told that he doesn’t live up to it and that he is a disappointment

04-02-2003 => BoredOfWarStories
16 year old Desmond getting fed up? Desmond’s dad keeps telling him how brave and strong his ancestors and fellow Assassins were/are and finally has had enough of it.

16-05-2003 => ChicagoGirls
Desmond is sent to the Assassin outpost in Chicago. Something like a second chance after the incident at the Black Hills. Instead he is planning his escape, and he has help: He gets to know somebody who seems to want to leave as well, an engineer (Des’ first love? Her could be Eve or Edith ? pet name = Eden)

16-08-2003 => Escape
“At Chicago's Midway International Airport, Southwest Airlines employees spent 48 hours dealing with the disorder caused by the blackout's sudden incidence.”
The Northeast Blackout of 2003 was a widespread power outage that occurred throughout parts of the North-eastern and Midwestern United States and Ontario, Canada
Was Desmond there? Did he use it to escape?
Under the pretence of returning to the farm, they leave for the train station (more likely than airport; tight security there) But they are being followed (Assassin security backup). That’s when their real plan comes into action: On remote command they cause the Northeast Blackout of 2003 and, using the disorder caused by the sudden incidence, manage to vanish.
16th birthday

23-08-2003 => FacesInStone
Mount Rushmore National Memorial is a sculpture carved into the granite face of Mount Rushmore, Black Hills Region, South Dakota, United States
But of course there was a catch in the plan: For Eden’s help to get out Desmond has to join her to a quest which consists of finding a hidden vault inside Mt. Rushmore

23-08-2003 => WhatIsThisPlace Desmond having a closer look at Mt. Rushmore (inside)? What did he find?
Desmond makes his first contact with those who came before but has no idea what it is about. Only as he now relives this suppressed memory Des can make sense of it.
Unfortunately for Des Eve had never planned to let him go, she only wanted his help, so she forces him back to Chicago. A bitter betrayal.

27-08-2003 => NotFarEnough
"Crime: Seven people, including the gunman, are killed in a shooting in Chicago as a worker opens fire on his colleagues at a car parts store. The police shoot the gunman dead."
At their return to Chicago the duo is being ambushed by a templar team. Four men hold them and one threatens them with a gun. A young police officer can be persuaded into helping them. Together they take the Templers down. Eve shoots all of them in cold blood as there cannot be any witnesses. When she wants to kill the police officer as well Des knocks her out. He thanks the police officer who promises to invent a believable story. Des carries Eve to a secure place and leaves her unconscious body for good.

30-08-2003 => PainKillers
Unfortunately Des couldn’t avoid being wounded. Physically and mentally. The betrayal of Eve sits very deep, and he realises that there was more than friendship between them. Des manages to steal some money and gets himself some painkillers. Killing his pain and senses.

11-03-2004 => TheyWillFindMe
Half a year later we see Des again. Self-pity having turned into paranoia: he never stays at one place for long, his former charm and easy going manner have vanished entirely. He tries not to have any friends in order to protect the people around him; he never uses his real name and survives by doing odd jobs.

14-08-2004 => 12To6
The 12–6 curveball is one of the types of pitches thrown in baseball. It is categorized as a breaking ball because of its downward break. The pitch is used throughout Major League Baseball.
Desmond playing Baseball?
Despite himself Desmond has fallen in love. A girl he met whilst working on some odd job of his. (Let’s call her Rose to simplify it) Her parents start seeing through his thick skin and the nice guy behind. Des coolness begins to thaw. He teaches his Rose’s younger brother baseball and explains the 12-6 to him. Rose’s parents smile at each other.

03-03-2005 => JustACult
Scientists at Florida State University conclude that Homo floresiensis is a separate species from Homo sapiens and belongs in the Homo genus through computer mapping of its brain.
Homo florensis – the people who came before?
Des has stayed. For the first time in years he feels home again, he found work at Rose’s father company and has a room in the family’s house as he is considered a member of it by now.
Rose is studying for a history exam: The crusades and she is studying aloud. When she starts to confuse things regarding the Assassin order and Desmond accidentally corrects him at a very specific detail Rose manages to dig deeper and is amazed by his knowledge of the Assassin Order passed on by Des’ father and speculates whether the stories might be true and what if it still existed, Desmond – hating to be reminded of his past – calls it “just a stupid cult” and leaves.

16-08-2005 => WHEREAREYOU!
Rose is concerned about Desmond’s avoidance of his family. She tells him that they are probably worried about him, after all he might even have died by now. Desmond tries to explain the situation as good as he can without telling her of the Assassins: That he had disgraced his family’s name; that he ran away; claiming they probably despised him by now. Rose reassures him that he must be wrong, every parent would be happy to hear of their child being safe and sound – and happy.
Desmond agrees to call them, but he doesn’t trust his parents enough to use the houses phone. He gets his hands on a secure line and calls his parents, they are happy to hear that he is still alive but try to pressure him to return, when he tells them that he plans to remain they order him to give them his position. Desmond hangs up.

12-06-2008 => CALLHOME!
"Strong to severe thunderstorms, causing damaging winds, a tornado, and flash flooding, hit mainly southern Wisconsin June 12 2008 southern Wisconsin
Ecuadorean police arrest four men including three Colombians on suspicion of plotting an assassination of the President of Ecuador Rafael Correa
In the past three years Desmond’s secrecy about his past has opened several chasms between the couple. So Rose has left it up to Desmond to decide: Either he told her everything or it was over. When Des hears first of the flooding in Wisconsin and later – even worse – the arrest of an Assassin in Equador he decides that his time in Paradise was over and that he finally has to face reality. So he leaves Rose and heads back to the farm. But he realises that he can’t just walk in and act as if he had never run away, so he decides to come in at night, to give his parents the choice of sending him away again – if they were still alive. His hesitation turns out to be his luck. When he arrives at the farm at night he discovers that it had been overrun and taken by the templars. He manages to talk himself out of the situation, claiming to be a hiker lost in the mountains. He leaves, hoping that at least the farms inhabitants might have escaped.

16-08-2008 => SoMuchNoise
2008 Atlantic Hurricane season: The Governor of Florida Charlie Crist declares a state of emergency as Tropical Storm Fay is due to hit Florida on Monday, possibly at hurricane strength.
Des back with his odd-job lifestyle - just with fewer painkillers. Today is his 21st birthday and a friend has taken him to a party. Girls are flirting with him but he ignores them, he hasn’t yet forgotten rose. He hates the city, it’s too crowded, too fast, too loud. His friend tells him he’ll get used to it in no time. Desmond looks doubtful.

16-02-2009 => TheEverythingCity
Everythin City as a soccer term? The Everything City versus United = Manchester’s City team vs. Manchester United
Half a year later we see a grumpy but obviously well trained Desmond waking up in his bed a woman next to him and he frowns at her... obviously trying to remember her name. It seems quite clear that Des managed to adapt the nocturnal lifestyle. We also see his tattoo for the first time. We see him picking up a few belonging – including a driver’s licence – and leaving the apartment. We see a few scenes of Des actually enjoying living in a city as he is able to blend perfectly into the crowds, having mastered social stealth. And he seems to be quite some bad-*** daredevil.

04-02-2011 => JustAddGin
Desmond starts to work as a bartender? Two years later in a different City, this time it is NY – more specific Little Italy. Here he works as a bartender – and he’s good at it, by now he seems quite immune to the lady’s charms. He seems to still enjoy city life but is no longer a daredevil. He has matured and seems to have taken control of his life.

17-09-2011 => TheJMZ
JMZ Records – Brooklyn, New York
Canal St JMZ Subway Station, New York, NY
Des is on his was home using the Underground (JMZ6). He greets several friends in Italian and even talks a few words in their mothertongue. When he suddenly has the odd feeling of being followed. He manages to shake him off. Or at least it looks like it.

08-08-2012 => I Am Not Alive
This time we find ourselves not in Desmond’s body but rather in the persona of Subject 16. While he is diverting the crazed part of himself with repainting the room a self-aware part of him manages to explain what has really happened to him. We watch his physical form die while he manages to load another part of himself – into Ezio’s memories

09-08-2012 => BadWeather
Abstergo News Wire Service, Sep. 3, 13:44
Hurricane Season Ends... But not in the way you think:
Increasingly erratic weather patterns have caused the Global Weather Association to abolish the term 'Hurricane Season'. Once confined to the months of June through November, hurricane duration, frequency, strength, and location have increased to the point where most coastal cities must now live in constant fear of these devastating storms.
We see Desmond working as a bartender, but this time in a different bar. Watching the Abstergo News Wire Service Channel discussing the strange weather patterns. An old man sitting at the bar talks to Des, claiming that this couldn’t be normal. To Desmond he makes the impression of a conspiracy theorists and he seems pretty contempt in ignoring his theories about the world being ruled by shadow companies...

10-08-2012 => NineYearsAlone
Almost nine years =) ... escape is dated 16-08-2003
Six days before Des’ 25th birthday he is sitting in front of a computer in an internet café, an almost full notebook besides him. He looks like a man who has been looking for something for a long time without success. The suddenly he looks up at the screen and we see the starting screen of the Hephaestus Email Network. He tries to login but somehow it denies him access. Frustrated he leaves, forgetting to delete the history directory.

17-09-2012 => AreYouDesmondMiles?
A week later at the bar. Desmond is obviously in a very bad mood and it’s already late. The guests are leaving and Des starts cleaning up the mess, although it doesn’t seem to be worth the effort regarding the ramshackle look of the bar. After everybody has left and he is standing with his back to the door it opens again. He tells the intruder without turning around that the bar is already closed. But when the newcomer doesn’t leave Desmond turns around and sees a beautiful woman standing in front of him. But that isn’t the most surprising thing, rather it is the question she asks him: “Are you Desmond Miles?”. Of course Des first denies it but the woman convinces him that she is an ally – an Assassin herself. She tells him that they are aware of his attempt of contacting them and that he is urgently needed, as there have been major setbacks lately. They expect him at Milan, Italy asap.
She hands him over a fake passport and a flight ticket and tells him someone is awaiting him at the airport in Milan.
At the airport in Milan the inspectors have a very close look at the passport – there seems to be something amiss but then they hold it below a UV-scanner and immediately hand it back to him and let him pass. Desmond – using his broken Italian asks what was wrong, the inspector replies (“Quest’era il Triangolo inguantato, il logotipo della questa ditta americana famosa…” That was the intertwined triangle, the logo of this famous American company), but unfortunately Des doesn’t understand it – he just shrugs and leaves towards the man obviously expecting him as there is nobody else left in the hall. When they get into the car the other man offers him a drink and Des thankfully accepts it. Only when his sight starts to darken out he recognises the templar ring the man is wearing.

19-09-2012 => Bastards!
And of course everybody knows what happened when Des finally regained his consciousness and his first word: “Bastards”

Well I hope you like my – freely interpreted – version, if not... well just skip it. it's quite obvious that I have too much spare time XD ...

This sounded soo convincing that I thought that you had read an exclusive magazine article somewhere, or had insider knowledge none of the rest of us had!

almostmorning
07-05-2011, 03:22 AM
:P well thanks for the compliment XD
who knows... maybe I am a hacker? :P

Poodle_of_Doom
07-28-2011, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Reamis:
Guys! I found Something interesting.

S17 16/03/0002=> WoodSmoke
S17 06/10/2001=> IRemember
S17 21/03/2002=> BlackHills
S17 22/07/2002=> NothingIsTrue
S17 22/07/2002=> EverythingIsPermitted
S17 21/08/2002=> MotherSad
S17 21/08/2002=> FatherMad
S17 04/02/2003=> BoredOfWarStories
S17 16/05/2003=> ChicagoGirls
S17 16/08/2003=> Escape
S17 23/08/2003=> WhatIsThisPlace
S17 23/08/2003=> FacesInStone
S17 27/08/2003=> NotFarEnough
S17 30/08/2003=> PainKillers
S17 14/08/2004=> 12To6
S17 11/03/2004=> TheyWillFindMe
S17 03/03/2005=> JustACult
S17 16/08/2005=> WHEREAREYOU!
S17 16/08/2008=> SoMuchNoise
S17 12/06/2008=> CALLHOME!
S17 16/02/2009=> TheEverythingCity
S17 04/02/2011=> JustAddGin
S17 17/09/2011=> TheJMZ
S16 08/08/2012=> I Am Not Alive
S17 09/08/2012=> BadWeather
S17 10/08/2012=> NineYearsAlone
S17 17/09/2012=> AreYouDesmondMiles?
S17 19/09/2012=> Bastards!

It Says S16 Not S17
It means that we will play Subject 16 Memory!

This was mentioned on page one. BTW, nice find everyone. I've found the five pages here so far to be one heck of a read....

zerocooll21
07-29-2011, 07:27 AM
The Devs have stated this will wrap up Altiar and Ezio's story as well as set up for future in the AC universe. It wouldn't make much sense to kill off the main character so you would think Desmond will not die. Going off that then who is the third? S16?