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Ant__.
11-22-2006, 09:42 AM
U-boats' last resting place found

A sonar image of one of the two U-boats found off Orkney

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Two submarine wrecks, believed to be uncharted WWI German U-boats, have been discovered by chance off Orkney.

A team working on a Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) tug made the find during a routine sonar survey.

The submarines - reported missing in the area in 1918 - were discovered about 70 miles off Sanday Sound.

One was under the control of Commander Kurt Beitzen, who had previously mined and sunk HMS Hampshire carrying Lord Kitchener in 1916.

Plans of the two U-boats have been examined by experts, who have identified the wrecks as U-102 and U-92, which may have been sunk by a series of mines.

'Watery grave'

Rob Spillard, hydrography manager for the MCA, said: "One of the subs it seems was commanded by quite a famous commander - the man who sunk the ship that Lord Kitchener was on - so this is his watery grave so to speak."

On 23 May, 1916, U-75 laid mines under the control of Commander Beitzen after traveling around the west coast of Orkney undetected.

Less than a month later the head of the war ministry, Lord Kitchener, was lost at sea together with many of the crew of the cruiser HMS Hampshire after striking mines.

The discoveries were made by chance by the MCA team

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He has been well remembered for his famous recruitment posters, bearing his heavily moustached face and pointing hand, over the legend "Your country needs you".

Beitzen later transferred to U-102, which was on its way home to Germany in autumn 1918 when it was lost with all 42 hands.

The MCA was one part of the team involved in the recent ScapaMap survey, which successfully mapped the locations of the remains of the German fleet scuttled at Scapa Flow in 1919.

The discovery of these U-boats was not part of the Scapa Flow project but part of the MCA's ongoing process of undertaking hydrographic surveys in UK waters.

Mr Spillard said: "The tug's main role is to intervene when large vessels require towing away from the coast in order to protect shipping, lives and the environment.

"The MCA have fitted state-of-the-art sonar equipment to the tug. Whilst the tug is on standby for any incident that may occur, it is put to good use collecting hydrographic survey data."<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Ant__.
11-22-2006, 09:42 AM
U-boats' last resting place found

A sonar image of one of the two U-boats found off Orkney

Enlarge Image
Two submarine wrecks, believed to be uncharted WWI German U-boats, have been discovered by chance off Orkney.

A team working on a Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) tug made the find during a routine sonar survey.

The submarines - reported missing in the area in 1918 - were discovered about 70 miles off Sanday Sound.

One was under the control of Commander Kurt Beitzen, who had previously mined and sunk HMS Hampshire carrying Lord Kitchener in 1916.

Plans of the two U-boats have been examined by experts, who have identified the wrecks as U-102 and U-92, which may have been sunk by a series of mines.

'Watery grave'

Rob Spillard, hydrography manager for the MCA, said: "One of the subs it seems was commanded by quite a famous commander - the man who sunk the ship that Lord Kitchener was on - so this is his watery grave so to speak."

On 23 May, 1916, U-75 laid mines under the control of Commander Beitzen after traveling around the west coast of Orkney undetected.

Less than a month later the head of the war ministry, Lord Kitchener, was lost at sea together with many of the crew of the cruiser HMS Hampshire after striking mines.

The discoveries were made by chance by the MCA team

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He has been well remembered for his famous recruitment posters, bearing his heavily moustached face and pointing hand, over the legend "Your country needs you".

Beitzen later transferred to U-102, which was on its way home to Germany in autumn 1918 when it was lost with all 42 hands.

The MCA was one part of the team involved in the recent ScapaMap survey, which successfully mapped the locations of the remains of the German fleet scuttled at Scapa Flow in 1919.

The discovery of these U-boats was not part of the Scapa Flow project but part of the MCA's ongoing process of undertaking hydrographic surveys in UK waters.

Mr Spillard said: "The tug's main role is to intervene when large vessels require towing away from the coast in order to protect shipping, lives and the environment.

"The MCA have fitted state-of-the-art sonar equipment to the tug. Whilst the tug is on standby for any incident that may occur, it is put to good use collecting hydrographic survey data."<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Celeon999
11-22-2006, 09:51 AM
In which depth do they are ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Ant__.
11-22-2006, 10:04 AM
Here's the Maritime Agency's report, it has more detail but it doesn't say in what depth they were found in. I've emailed them asking if they'll tell me the depth of water they were found in

They were discovered approximately 70 miles east of Sanday Sound and may prove to be uncharted German U-Boats from the First World War.
Plans of two U-Boats reported missing in the area in 1918 have been examined by experts who have identified the wrecks as U102 and U92, which may have been sunk on the Northern Barrage, a series of mines laid east of Sanday Sound.
Rob Spillard, Hydrography Manager, Maritime and Coastguard Agency said:
One of the subs, it seems, was commanded by quite a famous commander - the man who sunk the ship that Lord Kitchener was on ? so this is his watery grave so to speak.
Researchers Bobby Forbes of SULA diving in Stromness, together with Kevin Heath of Stromness and Mike Lowery, an American author and authority on WWI U- boats have been examining the history of the submarines.
On 23 May 1916, the U-Boat U-75 laid 22 mines under the control of Commander Kurt Beitzen after traveling around the west coast of Orkney undetected. Less than a month later Secretary of War, Lord Kitchener, on an important mission to Russia, ran into the mines and was lost at sea together with most of the crew of the cruiser HMS Hampshire.
Beitzen later transferred to U102, which was on its way back home to Germany in autumn 1918 when it was lost with all 42 hands somewhere on the Northern Barrage ? an area of three separate minefields, stretching between North Ronaldsay and Shetland.
The Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) was also one of the team involved in the recent ScapaMap survey, which successfully mapped the locations of the remains of the German fleet scuttled at Scapa Flow in 1919.
However, the discovery of these U-boats was not part of the Scapa Flow project, but rather part of the MCAs ongoing process of undertaking hydrographic surveys in UK waters.
Rob Spillard explained, The tugs main role is to intervene when large vessels require towing away from the coast in order to protect shipping, lives and the environment. The MCA have fitted state-of-the-art sonar equipment to the tug and this is operated on our behalf by a company called NetSurvey. Whilst the tug is on standby for any incident that may occur, it is put to good use collecting hydrographic survey data.
The reason that the MCA undertake surveys of large areas of the seabed is to provide data to the UK Hydrographic Office where it is used to keep nautical charts and publications up-to-date, contributing to navigational safety.
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Bockholt
11-23-2006, 11:07 AM
Here's another link:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2466696.html

Deamon & those Imperial U-Flotilla Kameraden are now expected to come up & chuck in a few wreaths... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif