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sfbaytf
03-09-2004, 02:20 PM
I haven't flown it yet myself, but so far nothing has been said about the P-47. One of the more loved planes in the ETO and some if not the highest scoring American aces flew it. It really shines at high altitudes-although apparently the IL-2 engine isn't accurate above 10,000 feet.

sfbaytf
03-09-2004, 02:20 PM
I haven't flown it yet myself, but so far nothing has been said about the P-47. One of the more loved planes in the ETO and some if not the highest scoring American aces flew it. It really shines at high altitudes-although apparently the IL-2 engine isn't accurate above 10,000 feet.

BuzzU
03-09-2004, 02:22 PM
Nothing s been said because it's been in the game from the beginning of FB. We have nothing more to say.

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VW-IceFire
03-09-2004, 02:36 PM
The IL2 engine is not accurate over 10,000 meters which is I think 27,000 feet or around those parts.

P-47 early models are great in this game. Late model with bubble canopy has some roll rate issues. I love all three of them...especially for ground pounding.

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Blutarski2004
03-09-2004, 02:49 PM
A meter = 3.2808 feet. 10,000 meters will therefore be 32,808 feet.

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StellarRat
03-09-2004, 04:04 PM
And those planes were usually not flown close to that high. 20000 to 30000 was the normal height for escort mission. The P-47 is really fast at 7K meters or higher. In fact, I don't of any plane that can catch it up there.

CAP401
03-09-2004, 04:12 PM
I don't have AEP yet, so I'm still playing il2. What's strange is, I just got interested in flying the Jug in this one QMB mission. Just for a spin. I had flown it before. Didn't like it. Now the strange part is when I went up in it, I did awesome! I shot down 3 fighters. They were AI at average skill if anyones interested. So now I'm really starting to get into the Jug, and I'm surprised how well I do in it every time I go up! It is included in AEP, right? Just asking to make sure. Because I think I am a new convert to the Jug! I recommend it to anyone. It will take a little while to get used to but after that, she tears those Germans up!

sfbaytf
03-09-2004, 04:43 PM
Don't remember where I heard this, but apparently at high altitudes the Jug was one of the fastest and manuverable planes around. Don't know how true that is, but its diving ability, ability to take damage and firepower is indisputable.

EmbarkChief
03-09-2004, 04:55 PM
sfbaytf probably holds the record for the least amount of posts per time registered.

sfbaytf
03-09-2004, 05:00 PM
well have to be good at something...I haven't been online for a long time-in fact I was without a computer for a year or so.

Bearcat99
03-09-2004, 05:40 PM
IMO the Jug got progressively better from 1.0 till now. Even though the roll rate is still a little slkow it is better than it was by a mile. Between the Jug, The P-38, and the IL2 this sim is a groundpounders dream.

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MysticBlackCat
03-09-2004, 06:01 PM
Amen to that Bearcat! I love the Jug, I've had an affinity towards it since I got FB. Mustang is nice, but I'd rather be strapped to a huge hunk of metal with the double wasp 2,000 hp engine and a healthy mix of rockets and bombs. Speaking of which I love the P-38, the ordinance loadouts are a dream come true and I'm getting proficient at dogfighting in it too.

ShVAK
03-10-2004, 05:31 AM
The P-47 is the best plane in the game. Only one other aircraft gives it trouble at altitude.


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horseback
03-10-2004, 08:31 AM
The P-47 was designed from its conception to be a high-altitude fighter - the original work was done during the BoB, and Republic's senior engineers no doubt observed the fighters in Europe going ever higher to gain the advantage. Clearly, they resolved that American fighter pilots should not be at a performance disadvantage in the expected arena.

Using the same engine as the Corsair and Hellcat, it was optimised for higher combat than they were; Navy and Marine pilots regularly 'bounced' Jug formations below 20,000 ft (6800m), but rarely won contests against them above that height. No surprise when you realize that most of the bulk in the fuselage is taken up by turbosupercharger piping & ducting.

Once the paddleblade props were installed, the Thunderbolt became significantly better at all altitudes, but particularly below 20,000 ft, much to the chagrin of FW drivers in the affected regions.

It remained the fastest propeller driven high altitude fighter in the Allied inventory throughout the war; although the 'official top speed of the P-47D was listed as around 430 mph at 30,000ft(9150m), 'tinkering' by AAF and Republic technicians resulted in most escort groups' Jugs topping 450mph at altitude by mid '44.

The P-47N (of which 1,800+ were produced and had four groups in combat by war's end vs 0 and 0 for the 109z) was even faster at an 'official' 460mph at 30,000ft with a clean configuration and combat weight of 16,700lb (7,582kg). It was reported by some sources that the 'N' had even better roll than the shorter wing models (bigger ailerons, squared wingtips, or overactive imaginations: your choice), but the most important feature of the beast a pilots' perspective was its relatively comfortable seat for long escort missions over the Pacific.

I wonder how Oleg's going to model that feature?

cheers

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Maple_Tiger
03-10-2004, 08:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by StellarRat:
And those planes were usually not flown close to that high. 20000 to 30000 was the normal height for escort mission. The P-47 is really fast at 7K meters or higher. In fact, I don't of any plane that can catch it up there.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actuelly below 8000m the P-51B,C,D and BF109-K4 are faster then the P-47.

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