View Full Version : Me109K-4 desription

02-09-2008, 11:26 AM

It differed from its immediate predecessor the Bf 109G in having a more powerful engine, the DB 605's usual 1550 horsepower being boosted to 2,000hp for take-off by the use of methanol injection. It had the taller tail of later G models, and the clearer-view, but still cramped, late model cockpit canopy (sometimes known as the "Galland" hood); armament was two 15mm MG151 cannon and one 30mm, either MK 103 or 108. It was fitted with a semi-retractable tailwheel and a longer spinner.

One would think that a company supposedly making high quality models would at least get the description of the a/c correct. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Where did they get this nonsense from?

02-09-2008, 12:37 PM
They also forgot to mention the removal of the elevator to save weight.

02-09-2008, 06:00 PM
Kurfurst should send them an e-mail.

02-10-2008, 04:31 AM
what, you mean he didn't send in the description already, lol

02-10-2008, 04:34 AM
What is wrong in the quote?


I guess I never heard about Mk103 equipped variants... but... I can't tell for sure.
About horsepower - Kurf didn't perhaps have 2,000HP, but dunno about C4 variant.


02-10-2008, 04:39 AM
of the top of my head, didnt the kufurst have a fully retracable tailwheel, and 2 mg 131's, not mg151's

02-10-2008, 04:43 AM
I guess you're right.

Tailwheel was fully retractable.

About MG131s... that too. Perhaps they armed some of them with 2xMG151s (15mm)? I dunno how possible is that tho.

02-10-2008, 05:22 AM
The MG151 myth started with Green, who mis-read the '3' in MG131.

The Germans tried to mount a MK103 in the 109 but this was a modified version of the cannon. It was never mounted in a production K-4.

The 2000hp could only be obtained with 1.98ata boost + MW50 + C3. Other DB605 engines used MW50 but did not produce 2000hp.

DKoor, the MG131 is 1168mm long. The MG151 is 1917mm long. A difference of 749mm (29.5"). Have you seen any 109s with the barrels projecting out of the cowling?

02-10-2008, 08:38 AM
You nailed it, L. The fantasy started with Green. Imagine that we only started to get accurate info about the late Gs and K in the very late '70's---which, I suddenly realized was 30 years ago! That model looks awful. Looks like a clumsily altered Airfix 109G-6 from 1965.