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stugumby
07-19-2006, 10:19 AM
is it just me or is this gy AI only?? Coulndt acess him using c. so tried other 2 seaters and no problems moving from place to place.

stugumby
07-19-2006, 10:19 AM
is it just me or is this gy AI only?? Coulndt acess him using c. so tried other 2 seaters and no problems moving from place to place.

JG53Frankyboy
07-19-2006, 10:26 AM
its AI only

UberDemon
07-19-2006, 09:51 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/6951026604/r/5791035704

stugumby
07-20-2006, 10:52 PM
thanks for the responses, I thought I was having a glitch.

Kernow
07-25-2006, 05:59 AM
Presumably because they never modelled a cockpit for him? Makes you wonder why:

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>they never did one in any subsequent patch, or why

other aircraft with multiple crew positions could not be treated the same way, if that's the difference between a flyable Pe-8, B-17 etc or not[/list]

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-25-2006, 07:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kernow:
Makes you wonder why they never did one in any subsequent patch, or why other aircraft with multiple crew positions could not be treated the same way, if that's the difference between a flyable Pe-8, B-17 etc or not </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


At this point, that's a good point. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

actionhank1786
07-25-2006, 03:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by actionhank1786:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kernow:
Makes you wonder why they never did one in any subsequent patch, or why other aircraft with multiple crew positions could not be treated the same way, if that's the difference between a flyable Pe-8, B-17 etc or not </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


At this point, that's a good point. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well half the joy of flying the Pe-8 would be sitting in those engine nacelles firing off 20mm rounds of justice at those d@mn Jerries! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Crash_Moses
07-25-2006, 10:22 PM
From the Pe-2 readme. Explains the Pe-2 anyway...

1. Waist Gunners.
The third crewman in the Pe-2 bomber, officially known as the gunner-radioman, was one of the busiest men in aviation history. In addition to manning the radio, he also had to man three separate defensive positions: the left waist gun, the right waist gun, and the bottom gun. Often he would be given only one gun, which he would need to move from socket to socket as threats shifted. In a few recorded cases, the gunners would open the top hatch, stand up, and fire the machine gun off-the-hip, Hollywood style.
Unfortunately, the Il-2 / FB / PF code was never intended for a single crewman alternating between firing positions. In Pe-2€s cause we would not be able to prevent the AI from, for example, firing the bottom gun while the player fired the left waist. Due to these limitations and in order to keep a level playing field, the waist gunner in all Pe-2s will always be controlled by AI.
The Pe-2 and Pe-3 are no different from other flyable bombers on all other respects.