View Full Version : IL2 and Nvidia 3D Vision and more Solid State Drives

03-18-2009, 05:48 PM
Well IL2 Fans, time passes quickly and new tech is always popping up. Back in October of 2008 I wrote an article to explore how IL2 responds with first (and partially second) generation MLC solid state drives (SSDs):

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...241053496#2241053496 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/4881091496?r=2241053496#2241053496)

That article used some high end stuff like a dedicated Highpoint controller that made the article more experiment than practical. Since that time, the price of SSDs has come down but the market has been flooded by poorly performing MLC drives with J Micron controllers (like the OCZ Core V1 and V2). Probably many of you are considering when to jump onto the SSD bandwagon and I will write a more detailed article in a few weeks that will show you real world results with second generation SSDs and IL2 1946 and Hyperlobby. As for now, please, please if you are considering purchasing a SSD, avoid these drives:

OCZ Core V1 and V2 versions, OCZ Apex (the RAID 0 thingy is BS), GSkill Titan series, and ALL Supertalent, Transcend, Patriot Warp and RiData drives.

I will explain next week in more detail why this is so. The two and only two reliable SSDs currently on the market are:

Intel X-25M and X-25E, OCZ Vertex (with latest firmware)

Until I write that article for you guys, please read this if you consider buying an SSD (which reaches about the same conclusions):

http://www.anandtech.com/stora...wdoc.aspx?i=3531&p=1 (http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531&p=1)

Also, I did preliminary tests with IL2 and Nvidia's 3D Vision two weeks back across the street at UCSD's CVRR Labs. If you dont know what this is, then it is simply using 3D glasses (with filters) and a 120 Hz monitor to create a partially realistic stereoscopic 3D image from any 2D game. I will detail the results next week when I return to the USA but here is the rundown at this early stage:

With Samsung 24" 120 Hz monitor (1920x1200) - Fairly realistic and you can definitely notice the effect. Drivers stutter with too much AAA and 3D effect can then be 'washed out'. Most enemy planes were displayed correctly in the 3D field and it did give you more information particularly with Full REAL Hyperlobby servers (like Spits vs 109s)

With Sharp LC-46D85U, 46 Inch HDTV at 120 Hz (1920x1080) - Wow. Holy **** ! It works well. Place this baby about 36 inches away from your desk and put on the goggles and only 10 million dollar military simulators could be more realistic. The effects are profound and noticeable and generally help in Hyperlobby servers with no icons or limited icons. There are some small caveats though and I will detail them when I write the review next week.

Hope this helps out and saves guys from purchasing the crappy SSD drives that seem to be everywhere at the moment - Jay

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03-18-2009, 10:00 PM
Thanks for the message edit Willy. The amount of guys who read their Bible verses at their bedside each night and only practice missionary sex for procreation must be pretty high in this forum as well, LOL

03-19-2009, 02:16 AM
Not interested in the drives as that's neither here nor there.

When talking something more important like displays:
1) a simple dual channel video card (these are on the market)
2)A 1-2 inch 1024x1024 LCD display (these are available but very expensive, but obtainable for the serious guru) Resolutions are increasing all the time.
3) Attached optics - Look around there are many optical technicians around - they can make this.
4) A 3D head movement sensor - The market is flooded BUT you might have to make your own little device with a USB interface.

Plonk this lot into a HMD and you're well away to real 3D.. This TIR with alternating eyes doesn't grab me at all. I want the real thing (or close to it) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

03-19-2009, 12:06 PM
I figured someone would get around to trying this sooner or later. The old old back in the day nvidia 3D didn't work so good with Il2 but I knew this was going to be different, glad it works.

03-20-2009, 11:12 AM
Bump for 3D.

03-20-2009, 11:52 AM
Since this uses an IR transmitter, it may impact using a TrackIR. My gut reaction tells me that TrackIR users will be forced to use the illuminated Pro clip (or whatever it's called). Hopefully the two can co-exist. If not, good-bye nvidia 3D.

This tech has me stoked and my next monitor purchase (someday) will definately support it (or I'll have to convince the rest of my family that our 40" 120hz Samsung LCD TV is really now my computer monitor). I can already see my wife's eyes' rolling... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

03-22-2009, 07:30 AM
My Asus 7600GS 256MB died on me recently and I had it replaced with another 7600GS but made by MSI and with 512MB memory.

Sturmovik still looks glorious in stereo 3D with edimensional glasses under Windoze ex pea.