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AKA_TAGERT
09-22-2007, 01:01 PM
XMAS came early this year http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/M1A/NEW/NEW_M1A_01.jpg
http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/M1A/NEW/NEW_M1A_02.jpg

http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/M1A/NEW/NEW_M1A_03.jpg

http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/M1A/NEW/NEW_M1A_04.jpg

http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/M1A/NEW/NEW_M1A_05.jpg

http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/M1A/NEW/NEW_M1A_06.jpg

Jediteo
09-22-2007, 01:05 PM
That is one beautiful rifle. Congrats for finding such a pristine specimen of military history.

AKA_TAGERT
09-22-2007, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Jediteo:
That is one beautiful rifle.
Thanks! S!


Originally posted by Jediteo:
Congrats for finding such a pristine specimen of military history.
Oh.. there easy to find!

It's a NEW one! (http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?model=15)

Finding the $ to buy it is the hard part! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BfHeFwMe
09-22-2007, 01:23 PM
Schweeeeeeeet!

Start saving those juice jugs. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

VMF-214_Pappy
09-22-2007, 01:51 PM
Now send it too me, least i can shoot it lol.

zardozid
09-22-2007, 02:29 PM
http://www.charmaineyoest.com/uploads/female_love_my_rifle_yoest.jpg


P.S. Nice firearm... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

leitmotiv
09-22-2007, 02:40 PM
Ye freaking cats. Thought it would be half that tops. Looks like I'll have to wait a bit to become a "gun-toting American fascist."

Jediteo
09-22-2007, 02:41 PM
Too bad the legislation here in Sweden creates a big hassle with importing and owning firearms.

Try to avoid standing in the bathroom in the middle of the night la Gomer Pyle with that thing.

general_kalle
09-22-2007, 02:57 PM
looks like an US army M1 Garand?
is it?

only the ending of the rifle barrel looks different

stalkervision
09-22-2007, 02:59 PM
Try not to get a "M1 Thumb" now buddy.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://www.answers.com/topic/m1-garand-rifle

personally I prefer the "Panzerfaust" for large scale destruction but in a pinch a knock off Soviet RPG will also do.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

berg417448
09-22-2007, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
Try not to get a "M1 Thumb" now buddy.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://www.answers.com/topic/m1-garand-rifle



Different weapon. Think M-14.

249th_Maico
09-22-2007, 03:10 PM
Great looking piece of hardware. Keep it up and down range buddy. Its allmost time to get some deer jerky going, isn't it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-22-2007, 03:11 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/M1_talk_charts.jpg


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Jediteo
09-22-2007, 03:17 PM
I think the rifle shown above is an M14, which was derived from the M1.

stalkervision
09-22-2007, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by berg417448:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
Try not to get a "M1 Thumb" now buddy.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://www.answers.com/topic/m1-garand-rifle



Different weapon. Think M-14. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope...

"Operation

Inserting an M1 "en bloc" clip.The Garand is loaded with a full clip of 8 cartridges. Once all eight rounds are expended, the bolt will be automatically locked back and the clip ejected, readying the rifle for the insertion of a fresh clip of ammunition[29]. Compared to contemporary detachable box magazines, the M1's "en bloc" clip is light, simple, and only has to be oriented with the bullets pointing forward prior to charging the rifle (the clips have no top or bottom).

Once the clip is inserted, the bolt snaps forward on its own as soon as pressure is released from the clip, chambering a round and leaving it ready to fire.[34][35] It is advisable for the operator to ride the bolt forward with his hand (in order to prevent the bolt from closing on his thumb, resulting in the very common "Garand thumb" or "M1 thumb"), and to strike the operating rod handle with his palm to ensure the bolt is closed.[36][35]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand_rifle

It's says it's a M1-A though which may have that little problem fixed... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

berg417448
09-22-2007, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by berg417448:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
Try not to get a "M1 Thumb" now buddy.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://www.answers.com/topic/m1-garand-rifle



Different weapon. Think M-14. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope...

"Operation

Inserting an M1 "en bloc" clip.The Garand is loaded with a full clip of 8 cartridges. Once all eight rounds are expended, the bolt will be automatically locked back and the clip ejected, readying the rifle for the insertion of a fresh clip of ammunition[29]. Compared to contemporary detachable box magazines, the M1's "en bloc" clip is light, simple, and only has to be oriented with the bullets pointing forward prior to charging the rifle (the clips have no top or bottom).

Once the clip is inserted, the bolt snaps forward on its own as soon as pressure is released from the clip, chambering a round and leaving it ready to fire.[34][35] It is advisable for the operator to ride the bolt forward with his hand (in order to prevent the bolt from closing on his thumb, resulting in the very common "Garand thumb" or "M1 thumb"), and to strike the operating rod handle with his palm to ensure the bolt is closed.[36][35] </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You completely misunderstand. The weapon Tagert bought is not an M-1 Garand. It is a Springfield Armory M-1A which is derived from the M-14. It is magazine fed not clip fed.

stalkervision
09-22-2007, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by berg417448:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by berg417448:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
Try not to get a "M1 Thumb" now buddy.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://www.answers.com/topic/m1-garand-rifle



Different weapon. Think M-14. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope...

"Operation

Inserting an M1 "en bloc" clip.The Garand is loaded with a full clip of 8 cartridges. Once all eight rounds are expended, the bolt will be automatically locked back and the clip ejected, readying the rifle for the insertion of a fresh clip of ammunition[29]. Compared to contemporary detachable box magazines, the M1's "en bloc" clip is light, simple, and only has to be oriented with the bullets pointing forward prior to charging the rifle (the clips have no top or bottom).

Once the clip is inserted, the bolt snaps forward on its own as soon as pressure is released from the clip, chambering a round and leaving it ready to fire.[34][35] It is advisable for the operator to ride the bolt forward with his hand (in order to prevent the bolt from closing on his thumb, resulting in the very common "Garand thumb" or "M1 thumb"), and to strike the operating rod handle with his palm to ensure the bolt is closed.[36][35] </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You completely misunderstand. The weapon Tagert bought is not an M-1 Garand. It is a Springfield Armory M-1A which is derived from the M-14. It is magazine fed not clip fed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your right and I'm wrong it's 'clip feed" isn't it which precludes the possability of a raw thumb doesn't it.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

VMF-214_Pappy
09-22-2007, 03:39 PM
Looks like M1A1 to me which is civillian version of M14

AKA_TAGERT
09-22-2007, 03:51 PM
It does look like an M1 with the clip out..

But it is a M1A... the civ version of the M14..

Thus no M1 thumb issues! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I should have taken the pics with the clip in! Habit I guess.. I don't lock n load till I'm ready to put rounds down range.

DOH!

AKA_TAGERT
09-22-2007, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/M1_talk_charts.jpg


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif NICE! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

VMF-214_Pappy
09-22-2007, 04:29 PM
Whats a clip? is that something you use to hold pieces of paper together or is that for a nickel plated 9. Us military folk call it a magazine. Lol just joshing u bro.

AKA_TAGERT
09-22-2007, 04:40 PM
Why I aught ah..

Reminds me of the first time I called my M16 a 'gun' in basic! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

stalkervision
09-22-2007, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
Why I aught ah..

Reminds me of the first time I called my M16 a 'gun' in basic! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


"This is my rifle,this is my gun,this is for fighting and this is for fun.." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XExL7hDQtt8&mode=related&search=

leitmotiv
09-22-2007, 05:28 PM
Anybody know where I can get a WWI British-made Lee Enfield Mk 1 SMLE?

HerrGraf
09-22-2007, 09:08 PM
VMF-214 Pappy: The clip (paper or other) goes into the magazine.
leimotiv: Check "Shotgun News". I have a Mk4 that is a fun to shoot.

We are into the second page and so far no complaining about the subject matter. Only a matter or time.

Pretty M1A. Hope it shoots as accurately as it looks.

Esel1964
09-23-2007, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Anybody know where I can get a WWI British-made Lee Enfield Mk 1 SMLE?

Check here. (http://www.floridagunworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=CR+R)

Esel1964
09-23-2007, 02:43 AM
Very nice choice,I've got an NA9102(Non- stainless barrel,National Match),and enjoy every round I shoot.I was talking about it in a PM to another regular here,2 days ago,and said:

"I like to go to the 200 yd. range at our local club,and be the only guy with iron sights.Everybody else has their Sako's,Weatherby's,Remington etc.,in .300 Win Mag,7mm,25-06 etc.,with scopes up to 12x.
Sure,some of them can make groups where all 5 shots are adjoining,but I feel I can hold my head high when their jaws drop,when they see all my shots in the black on a 100 yd target(@ 200 yd),using iron sights."

Don't get me wrong,I realize it's no extraordinary ability of mine,it's all the rifle.So,don't start fragging me as if I'd said I was the only person capable of that.

I just meant some folks get so hung up on optics, that they forget a quality rifle with iron sights is still very formidible;and AKA TARGET just bought one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BillyTheKid_22
09-23-2007, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Esel1964:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Anybody know where I can get a WWI British-made Lee Enfield Mk 1 SMLE?

Check here. (http://www.floridagunworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=CR+R) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif I know!! I am experince and Ex-work My Uncle's Ford Gun Shop!!

AKA_TAGERT
09-23-2007, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Esel1964:
Very nice choice,I've got an NA9102(Non- stainless barrel,National Match),and enjoy every round I shoot.
Nice!

I also ordered the walnut hand guard to replace the fiberglass one.

My dad made a living working with wood.. So I picked up a few things as a kid.. Ill post some pics of it after I rework the stock a little to integrate the new hand guard.. It will take me awhile though.. This weekend is shot and next weekend we are going hunting and the weekend after that I have to fly out to CA for a wedding.


Originally posted by Esel1964:
I was talking about it in a PM to another regular here,2 days ago,and said:

"I like to go to the 200 yd. range at our local club,and be the only guy with iron sights.Everybody else has their Sako's,Weatherby's,Remington etc.,in .300 Win Mag,7mm,25-06 etc.,with scopes up to 12x.
Sure,some of them can make groups where all 5 shots are adjoining,but I feel I can hold my head high when their jaws drop,when they see all my shots in the black on a 100 yd target(@ 200 yd),using iron sights."
WOW! That is one of the reasons I got this rifle! In that I too enjoy showing up the scope folks! It is kind of funny IMHO.. Those folks buy all those sand bags and supports to sight in the scope and their sights.. But they never stop using those sand bags and supports! I have those things too, but once I am sighted in I like to do the Nat Match firing positions! In that you ain't going to have those tools out in the woods! So you better spend some time shooting without them!


Originally posted by Esel1964:
Don't get me wrong,I realize it's no extraordinary ability of mine,it's all the rifle.So,don't start fragging me as if I'd said I was the only person capable of that.
Roger.. I totally understand what your saying! But that is why we spent the money on a good rifle!


Originally posted by Esel1964:
I just meant some folks get so hung up on optics, that they forget a quality rifle with iron sights is still very formidible;
Bingo!


Originally posted by Esel1964:
and AKA TARGET just bought one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
S!

AKA_TAGERT
09-23-2007, 11:30 AM
While we are on the subject..

Here are a few more of my tools..

http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/Enifield/ENIFIELD_NO4_MK1.JPG
http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/K31/K31.JPG
http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/K98/K98.jpg
http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/M91-30/M91-30.JPG
http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/SKS/SKS.JPG
http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/Beretta/BERETTA.JPG
http://geocities.com/grantsenn/WEAPONS/Mathews/MATHEWS_SOLOCAM.JPG

VMF-214_Pappy
09-23-2007, 01:55 PM
Some of my tools here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/DSC01410.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/DSC01412.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/DSC01411.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/Picture040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/Picture046.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/Picture031.jpg

AKA_TAGERT
09-23-2007, 02:38 PM
what is the black patch on the AK hiding?

PS the .50cal is next on my list! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

VMF-214_Pappy
09-23-2007, 02:43 PM
Not sure it was a ANA rifle i borrowed.

AKA_TAGERT
09-23-2007, 02:48 PM
Borrowed! LOL! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BillyTheKid_22
09-23-2007, 03:43 PM
LoL!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I have my Ak-47!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



http://www.dogfightink.com/ak47.jpg

Esel1964
09-24-2007, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
While we are on the subject..

Here are a few more of my tools..


Nice looking Lee-Enfield,I've got all the rest,except the bow-I used to have a Martin Ted Nugent Gonzo Safari,but traded it for a surplus rifle.(the Schmidt-Rubin K31 is a sweet shooter too,and don't you love the kick of the Mosin Nagant-it lets you know you just shot a rifle,esp. the carbine)

Looks like you've got a Yugoslav SKS,I've got a Russian and a Chinese(which I only gave $70 for,it's not worth more than that-yeah,it shoots with no problems,it's just a bunch of stamped parts thrown together).

Esel1964
09-24-2007, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by VMF-214_Pappy:
Some of my tools here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/DSC01410.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/DSC01412.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/DSC01411.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/Picture040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/Picture046.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/vmf214pappy/Picture031.jpg

Those are some nice tools,for sure.
Haven't I seen that same black square AKA TARGET mentioned,used as an insignia by USMC.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/DMFesel/Mathijssen.jpg

Dagnabit
09-24-2007, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by HerrGraf:
VMF-214 Pappy: The clip (paper or other) goes into the magazine.
leimotiv: Check "Shotgun News". I have a Mk4 that is a fun to shoot.

We are into the second page and so far no complaining about the subject matter. Only a matter or time.

Pretty M1A. Hope it shoots as accurately as it looks.

Thats a National Match model if Im not mistaken, and there wont be any problems hitting anything he shoots at.

Dagnabit
09-24-2007, 01:33 AM
Tagert, gotta hand it to you dude......you have nice toys. .308/7.62X51 is my favorite caliber, and one can really handload some sweet rounds for it. I have shot quite a number of one hole groups with it.
Dang Ive been wanting a NM for ages, guess Ill have to get busy on it before you buy up all the good stuff. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Do you handload? .308 is a pretty easy one to load. I can see by the powder residue that you were warming it up a bit. Great rifle.
Good on ya
Dag

BillyTheKid_22
09-24-2007, 06:52 PM
http://www.usmc.mil/13thmeu/marines/photos/Kuwait%20Training/sniper_hi.jpg



LoL!! Sniper!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

JG6_Oddball
09-24-2007, 09:31 PM
M14 is one of my favorites http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif,My friend was in vietnam when they were changing over (from 14 to 16) he said the old guys hated the 16 because it had no stoping power http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif , he told me during a firefight there postion was being flanked and one of the new guys shot this guy with 3-4 rounds that did not slow him down but one of the old guys stood up and fired his 14 (which acordfing to jon is VERY distictivehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and the guy stoped in his tracks and flew backwards http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif.

is that a military issue M14? if i remember they are full auto http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif ...you really cant fire them on full auto i understand (muzzle lift and recoil ) but kool none the less http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S!

Esel1964
09-24-2007, 11:44 PM
Military issue would be full auto(M-14) which involves huge expenses in licensing,because of the NFA of 1934,buyer and seller are required to have a Class III license,which involves the most extensive background check there is.

Due to the above,Class III stuff is insanely priced.
Here's a BAR for instance:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/product3871.html
$23,000

Here's an M-2 Carbine(full auto M-1 Carbine):
http://www.impactguns.com/store/MGT-975093.html
$7000

So,not only is the licensing a costly nightmare,but the rifle prices are out of hand.
The last class III M-14 I saw,was right at $20,000,can't find one right now.

Esel1964
09-24-2007, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
http://www.usmc.mil/13thmeu/marines/photos/Kuwait%20Training/sniper_hi.jpg



LoL!! Sniper!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Great pic,Billy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
I like the ejected casing in the air.
Nice post,M8.

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-25-2007, 02:25 AM
I want this for xmas!

http://www.cheytac.com/AM200-Heavy-Set-up.gif

.408 baby! Most universal round in the world.

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-25-2007, 02:32 AM
Tag if your in the market for a .50 you should check this place out. http://serbu.com/top/bfg50.php

Very well priced and stacked up well against the Barret in a .50 cal review in Guns n Ammo a few years back.

Id love to have a Accuracy International AW338 LAPUA Magnum as well! Too bad Im not rich and got so many mouths to feed...lol.

S!

VMF-214_Pappy
09-25-2007, 10:26 AM
Sorry havok u already bought a xbox, a 2900xt and CH setup your all out of xmas gifts.

JG6_Oddball
09-25-2007, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Esel1964:
Military issue would be full auto(M-14) which involves huge expenses in licensing,because of the NFA of 1934,buyer and seller are required to have a Class III license,which involves the most extensive background check there is.

Due to the above,Class III stuff is insanely priced.
Here's a BAR for instance:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/product3871.html
$23,000

Here's an M-2 Carbine(full auto M-1 Carbine):
http://www.impactguns.com/store/MGT-975093.html
$7000

So,not only is the licensing a costly nightmare,but the rifle prices are out of hand.
The last class III M-14 I saw,was right at $20,000,can't find one right now.

there is a gun store in westerville ohio and this guy has, 50CAL MG on the main floor and MG 34 hanging from the ceiling tommy guns galore, MP40, A Barret (not sure what model) I also asked about the M14 he said it would cost right around $25.000 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif I love the gun...BUT! thats alot of money....good news is that surplus enfields made in india are $79.00 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S!

JG6_Oddball
09-25-2007, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I want this for xmas!

http://www.cheytac.com/AM200-Heavy-Set-up.gif

.408 baby! Most universal round in the world.

that thing anygood for squirl hunting? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

S!

BillyTheKid_22
09-25-2007, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I want this for xmas!

http://www.cheytac.com/AM200-Heavy-Set-up.gif

.408 baby! Most universal round in the world.



I know!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif S!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZZui1O7Px0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZZui1O7Px0)

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Enforcer572005
09-25-2007, 07:31 PM
WHAT is the second rifle from the top...i recognized all the rest....nagant, mauser, etc. Cant place the second one.

I got an M-1A, which is as confusing a name as when they changed the A-26 to B-26, back when they first came out. A cop I knew who was a Marine in Nam (Khe San during the siege) gave me SIX 20 rd M-14 mags for it. Back then (79), it was very hard to find them. I wasn't gonna settle for a lousy 5 rds in a weapon with that capability.

BTW, that Mk-19 has all the other stuff beat, with the Barret .50 coming in second.

Esel1964
09-25-2007, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by Enforcer572005:
WHAT is the second rifle from the top...i recognized all the rest....nagant, mauser, etc. Cant place the second one.

I got an M-1A, which is as confusing a name as when they changed the A-26 to B-26, back when they first came out. A cop I knew who was a Marine in Nam (Khe San during the siege) gave me SIX 20 rd M-14 mags for it. Back then (79), it was very hard to find them. I wasn't gonna settle for a lousy 5 rds in a weapon with that capability.

BTW, that Mk-19 has all the other stuff beat, with the Barret .50 coming in second.

The 2nd rifle is a Swiss Schmidt-Rubin K-31 7.5 mm;very accurate.One of 3 straight pull(bolt-action) battle rifles made.There was the K-31,the Canadian Ross rifle,and the Steyr Mannlicher M95.

I guess you know GI M-14 mags go for $45-50 in good condition.That cop really gave you a choice gift. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Esel1964
09-25-2007, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by JG6_Oddball:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Esel1964:
Military issue would be full auto(M-14) which involves huge expenses in licensing,because of the NFA of 1934,buyer and seller are required to have a Class III license,which involves the most extensive background check there is.

Due to the above,Class III stuff is insanely priced.
Here's a BAR for instance:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/product3871.html
$23,000

Here's an M-2 Carbine(full auto M-1 Carbine):
http://www.impactguns.com/store/MGT-975093.html
$7000

So,not only is the licensing a costly nightmare,but the rifle prices are out of hand.
The last class III M-14 I saw,was right at $20,000,can't find one right now.

there is a gun store in westerville ohio and this guy has, 50CAL MG on the main floor and MG 34 hanging from the ceiling tommy guns galore, MP40, A Barret (not sure what model) I also asked about the M14 he said it would cost right around $25.000 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif I love the gun...BUT! thats alot of money....good news is that surplus enfields made in india are $79.00 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the Enfield price info-I didn't know the Ishapore's were that cheap now,but as bad as I want one,I want a Brit-made one-maybe I'm being too much of a 'purist',I dunno. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Of course if I had a really good Christmas,I could get both(I'm not holding my breath though).

Hogan1910
09-27-2007, 01:24 PM
We could of used a few of those at Stalag 13.

Choctaw111
09-27-2007, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
Tag if your in the market for a .50 you should check this place out. http://serbu.com/top/bfg50.php

Very well priced and stacked up well against the Barret in a .50 cal review in Guns n Ammo a few years back.

Id love to have a Accuracy International AW338 LAPUA Magnum as well! Too bad Im not rich and got so many mouths to feed...lol.

S!

The Sako TRG42 is a VERY nice rifle for the 338 Lapua as well. If my wife doesn't object, that will be my next purchase (with the collapsible stock).

Choctaw111
09-27-2007, 01:32 PM
How does one feel about the Springfield M1A SOCOM 16? I should post some photos of that baby.

Choctaw111
09-27-2007, 01:39 PM
Here is the Sako TRG 42 with the collapsible stock http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Yup. I'm gonna buy it. Just keep it between us. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif You know I'm going to hear it when my wife finds out. She asks me why I need more firearms and says I don't need anymore. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SakoKlappschaftSSGPfrei800.jpg

Esel1964
09-27-2007, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
Here is the Sako TRG 42 with the collapsible stock http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Yup. I'm gonna buy it. Just keep it between us. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif You know I'm going to hear it when my wife finds out. She asks me why I need more firearms and says I don't need anymore. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


That's some seriously accurate,long range artillery,in .338 Lapua.Nice choice.

Have you checked out the Chey-Tac .408?
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn63-e.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.408_Chey_Tac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DTLsgCH0ys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvvuxhD3z5E&mode=related&search=

Have you seen this version (http://www.rifleshootermag.com/featured_rifles/extremes_010506/index1.html) of the M1A?Since we're fellow M1A owners. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-28-2007, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
Here is the Sako TRG 42 with the collapsible stock http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Yup. I'm gonna buy it. Just keep it between us. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif You know I'm going to hear it when my wife finds out. She asks me why I need more firearms and says I don't need anymore. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/PublicPhotoAccount2/SakoKlappschaftSSGPfrei800.jpg


Oh you tease me you really do! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-28-2007, 02:14 AM
Have you checked out the Chey-Tac .408?

Yep, scroll up. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Future weapons did a very nice piece on it.

S!

Choctaw111
09-28-2007, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Esel1964:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Choctaw111:
Here is the Sako TRG 42 with the collapsible stock http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Yup. I'm gonna buy it. Just keep it between us. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif You know I'm going to hear it when my wife finds out. She asks me why I need more firearms and says I don't need anymore. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


That's some seriously accurate,long range artillery,in .338 Lapua.Nice choice.

Have you checked out the Chey-Tac .408?
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn63-e.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.408_Chey_Tac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DTLsgCH0ys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvvuxhD3z5E&mode=related&search=

Have you seen this version (http://www.rifleshootermag.com/featured_rifles/extremes_010506/index1.html) of the M1A?Since we're fellow M1A owners. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ooooh. I haven't seen that version of the M1A. Carlos Hathcock. How about that. Very nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

AKA_TAGERT
09-28-2007, 06:15 PM
When it rains it pours..

I picked up a use 1903 Mark 1 today.. It does not have the original stock.. But the barrel and sights are beautiful! Anyone know where you can get an original stock from?

He also had a real nice M1 carbine.. Thing looked almost new.. What would that be worth these days? I was thinking of getting it too.

Esel1964
09-28-2007, 07:57 PM
For the stock,try:
http://www.sarcoinc.com/springfields.html#5

http://cgi.ebay.com/1903-Springfield-Stock-Marked-FJA-R...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/1903-Springfield-Stock-Marked-FJA-RJA-EB_W0QQitemZ140162076126QQihZ004QQcategoryZ585QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=9...0&chrSuperSKU=&MC=YJ (http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=917730&chrSuperSKU=&MC=YJ)

And congrats on your purchase,that's a good one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - -
If the Carbine is a GI one,and not one of those copies made in the '70's-'80's,depending on condition(you said very good)and who made it-look on the barrel behind the front sight,it'll have the year of manufacture too:

Rock-Ola Music Corporation (ROCK-OLA)
Standard Products (STANDARD PRODUCTS)
International Business Machines (IBM)
Quality Hardware (QUALITY HARDWARE)
National Postal Meter (NATIONAL POSTER METER)
Saginaw (SAGINAW DIVISION,GENERAL MOTORS)S.G.
Saginaw (Grand Rapids) S'G'
Underwood-Elliot-Fisher (UNDERWOOD)
Winchester (WINCHESTER)
Inland (INLAND DIVISION, GENERAL MOTORS.

Rock-ola's(the most expensive) are $750 or so,and GM Inland's(the most common) are around $500.

AKA_TAGERT
09-28-2007, 10:08 PM
Cool! Thanks for the links and M1 carbine info!

On the 1903.. Which stock would be the more orginal? I thought I read somewhere that the 'Scant' grip stock was more of a post WWII type of stalk.. and that the straight grip was more of what they had during WWII.. This being an early 1903 Mark 1, not a 1903A1, A2, or A3 I think the earlier the stock style the better..

How say you?

Esel1964
09-28-2007, 10:34 PM
I honestly can't answer that fully,but I'd imagine the A-4 would be the strongest stock,because it was the sniper,and grenade launcher version.
Other than special use rifles(like the above mentioned)I'd imagine you're right.

" World War I
By the time of U.S. entry into World War I, 843,239 of these rifles had been produced at Springfield Armory and Rock Island Arsenal. The demands of the war, however, spurred the production of an additional 265,620, still not nearly enough to train and arm American troops. This prompted production of 2.5 million of the U.S. Model of 1917 (M1917 Enfield), also in .30-06 caliber, but from British (Enfield) P13 and later P14 rifle designs. Most US soldiers were in fact armed with M1917 rifles during the conflict. Towards the end of the war, Springfield turned out the Model 1903 Mark I. The Mark I has a cut on the left hand side of the receiver meant to act as an ejection port for the Pedersen device, a specialized insert that replaced the bolt and allowed the user to fire .30 caliber pistol cartridges semi-automatically from a detachable magazine. The stock was also slightly cut down on the left side to clear the ejection port. In all other respects, the Mark I is identical to the 1903."

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1903_Springfield_rifle

"The stock was also slightly cut down on the left side to clear the ejection port. In all other respects, the Mark I is identical to the 1903."

More '03 M1 stuff:
http://www.odcmp.com/Forms/1903info.pdf

AKA_TAGERT
09-29-2007, 08:03 AM
Thanks bud!

That link to that pdf file was most helpful!!

XyZspineZyX
09-29-2007, 08:25 AM
Nice M1A, Tag http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'd recommend the "C" stock for the M1903. It reduces the recoil greatly and in my opinion is a much prettier stock

BillyTheKid_22
09-29-2007, 10:12 AM
http://philipbeekley.com/images/1918sprgfld1903mark1_full_length_right_ww1display2 .jpg



www.philipbeekley.com/index2.htm (http://www.philipbeekley.com/index2.htm)

Choctaw111
09-29-2007, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
http://philipbeekley.com/images/1918sprgfld1903mark1_full_length_right_ww1display2 .jpg



www.philipbeekley.com/index2.htm (http://www.philipbeekley.com/index2.htm)

That wouldn't be yours, would it? I have an ammo box just like that one that my late maternal grandfather left me (among many other things). I now use it to keep my cleaning kit inside http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BillyTheKid_22
09-29-2007, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
http://philipbeekley.com/images/1918sprgfld1903mark1_full_length_right_ww1display2 .jpg



www.philipbeekley.com/index2.htm (http://www.philipbeekley.com/index2.htm)

That wouldn't be yours, would it? I have an ammo box just like that one that my late maternal grandfather left me (among many other things). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



I am not Stupied!!!! I am very experince, I ex- work My Uncle Ford's Gun Shop at Lidreth, New Mexico. My Grandfather Lt. Colonal retired WW2 and purple Heart and Chief Mangum police and Farmer. My Grandfather gave me old gun lots!! I have my gun lics. My Great Great Great Grandfather's Lt. Sgt. Civil War and Shierff Greer County, Oklahoma My Young Cousin still Deputy U.S Marshall and Army MP Captain from Austin, Texas. My Cousin COOL and HUG!!

Choctaw111
09-29-2007, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Choctaw111:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
http://philipbeekley.com/images/1918sprgfld1903mark1_full_length_right_ww1display2 .jpg



www.philipbeekley.com/index2.htm (http://www.philipbeekley.com/index2.htm)

That wouldn't be yours, would it? I have an ammo box just like that one that my late maternal grandfather left me (among many other things). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



I am not Stupied!!!! I am very experince, I ex- work My Uncle Ford's Gun Shop at Lidreth, New Mexico. My Grandfather Lt. Colonal retired WW2 and purple Heart and Chief Mangum police and Farmer. My Grandfather gave me old gun lots!! I have my gun lics. My Great Great Great Grandfather's Lt. Sgt. Civil War and Shierff Greer County, Oklahoma My Young Cousin still Deputy U.S Marshall and Army MP Captain from Austin, Texas. My Cousin COOL and HUG!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was NOT saying that you were stupid or inexperienced. I don't think that you understood what I was saying. I just wanted to ask you if the rifle in the photo was yours, that's all.

BillyTheKid_22
09-29-2007, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Choctaw111:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
http://philipbeekley.com/images/1918sprgfld1903mark1_full_length_right_ww1display2 .jpg



www.philipbeekley.com/index2.htm (http://www.philipbeekley.com/index2.htm)

That wouldn't be yours, would it? I have an ammo box just like that one that my late maternal grandfather left me (among many other things). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



I am not Stupied!!!! I am very experince, I ex- work My Uncle Ford's Gun Shop at Lidreth, New Mexico. My Grandfather Lt. Colonal retired WW2 and purple Heart and Chief Mangum police and Farmer. My Grandfather gave me old gun lots!! I have my gun lics. My Great Great Great Grandfather's Lt. Sgt. Civil War and Shierff Greer County, Oklahoma My Young Cousin still Deputy U.S Marshall and Army MP Captain from Austin, Texas. My Cousin COOL and HUG!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was NOT saying that you were stupid or inexperienced. I don't think that you understood what I was saying. I just wanted to ask you if the rifle in the photo was yours, that's all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I am not Stupid!! I have not photo!! haha!! No plm !! I ex-work My Uncle Ford"s Gun Shop. I have my owner lots of gun and few New Gun, Old Cowboy gun and few WW2 gun, some Gun Show, Gun Range. I love Old Cowboy Gun and WW2 gun!! My Cousin know and All time!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif Today, I called My Cousin. My Cousin and I say laugh!! I am hunting and Some Gun repaier 27 years.



http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/bkid_01/NewPictures008b.jpg?t=1191099811



http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif My .338 Lapua Magnum

AKA_TAGERT
09-29-2007, 04:02 PM
Billy.. I think you got Choctaw111 all wrong.. He did not call you stupid! He was just asking if that was your 1903! In that his gradpa had an ammo can just like the one in that picture.

BillyTheKid_22
09-29-2007, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
Billy.. I think you got Choctaw111 all wrong.. He did not call you stupid! He was just asking if that was your 1903! In that his gradpa had an ammo can just like the one in that picture.



no plm ok!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif seriuos!!!YES YES!!! 16 years ago, My Grandfather gave me. I keep 1918 Mark 1 "Springfield" ( US Model of 1903) Old gun . $$$$$ 1918 US model of 1903, Mark 1 rifle cal. 30.06, I did shot!! cool!! My Cousin laugh!!!



http://www.philipbeekley.com/images/anim_sniper2.gif

han freak solo
09-29-2007, 06:26 PM
Thanks for the thread, y'all!! Good pics!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif