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Superjew1
12-23-2008, 08:58 AM
Hi, n00b here. I am very new to flight simming and am a little scared of the learning curve on it compared to other games Ive played.

I guess you could say im a WWII junky. In First Person Shooter Day of Defeat source I would average between 3:1 and 2:1 KD ratio.

Then I moved onto Company of Heroes and I could never really get the game, I would only average a 1:1 Win to Lose ratio, which caused me to shelve the game.

Im hoping Im a bit more talented at Sturmovik and can atleast average a 2:1 KD ratio, what do you guys tend to get in the game?

Superjew1
12-23-2008, 08:58 AM
Hi, n00b here. I am very new to flight simming and am a little scared of the learning curve on it compared to other games Ive played.

I guess you could say im a WWII junky. In First Person Shooter Day of Defeat source I would average between 3:1 and 2:1 KD ratio.

Then I moved onto Company of Heroes and I could never really get the game, I would only average a 1:1 Win to Lose ratio, which caused me to shelve the game.

Im hoping Im a bit more talented at Sturmovik and can atleast average a 2:1 KD ratio, what do you guys tend to get in the game?

Superjew1
12-23-2008, 08:58 AM
BTW for some odd reason my new discussions keep getting deleted, can anyone tell me why?

Xiolablu3
12-23-2008, 09:00 AM
Around 3:1 is good for a veteren.

For a new player 1:1 is fantastic.

The top players usually average around 6:1, 8:1 but they have trackIR and have been flying for years.

FlixFlix
12-23-2008, 09:11 AM
Welcome, I hope you enjoy this sim!
From what you've written, your motivation is closely linked to your K/D-ratio. To each his own, but I'm afraid you won't last long then. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Superjew1
12-23-2008, 09:35 AM
WHoops, I thought my thread got deleted, as it turns out its at the bottom of the list. My bad, n00b mistake.

Urufu_Shinjiro
12-23-2008, 11:45 AM
Don't worry about Khttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif right now, as a beginner it's going to be way less that 1:1. It takes time to learn to fly, and it takes time to learn to shoot, and it takes time to learn to dogfight. This is the kind of game you play because you love every minute of it, not a game you play for a few days so you can get good enough to pwn n00bs.

gorkyporky
12-23-2008, 02:50 PM
Well my K-D ratio is probably some 5-1 offline but its belov 1-1 online, and iwe been playing for close to two years. True, i fly iregulary, sometimes nothing fir a week then for 5h straight, but still, you shouldnt expect magical resoults with this game. As said before, this is a game not played for how much you scoore but a game you play because you love it.

ImpStarDuece
12-23-2008, 03:09 PM
Depends on what servers you fly in and how you fight.

If you are playing on an arcade style low alt furball-style server, don't be surprised if you find your K/D ratio always trending to 1:1.

Simply put, there are too many targets in the sky and too many cannon toting uber birds around for anything much apart from chance to determine whether you get shot down or not. You will get killed, the only variable is how many others you manage to take down before hand.

IF you are playing on a full real server, players are more notably divided into the aces and targets category. Again, tactics will determine how high your K/D is. Flying a Spitfire at low altitude cruising for low alt dogfights means that you are likely going to die very quickly.

On the other hand flying the same Spitfire at 20-25,000 feet, carefully managing your speed, using group tactics, comms and being selective about your targets is a good way to improve your K/D. The problem is that it takes time, skill, patience and co-operation, several of which are missing from most virtual pilots out there.

VMF-214_HaVoK
12-23-2008, 03:24 PM
How many threads you need on the same subject?

Mr_Zooly
12-23-2008, 04:03 PM
sureley the question should be: are you having fun shooting down and being shot down by like minded people?

crucislancer
12-23-2008, 05:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Superjew1:
Then I moved onto Company of Heroes and I could never really get the game, I would only average a 1:1 Win to Lose ratio, which caused me to shelve the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope that you give IL-2 more of a chance then Company of Heroes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Like everyone has said above, your K/D ratio will be low to start with, depending on what servers you are on and your relative skill level. I've been playing for over 2 years now, and I feel that I'm at the very least a competent pilot, but I know that if I start worrying about my ratio I wouldn't fly online. The thing that matters to me is being able to fly the plane I'm in well enough to shoot down the enemy and return relatively unscathed.

I highly suggest starting out with some quick missions in the Quick Mission Builder, as well as some single player campaigns. You will gain some experience with the various aircraft without subjecting yourself to a constant beating online. Also, either hook up with a squadron if you plan on a lot of online playing, or hook up with someone for some one-on-one instruction.

I really hope that you give this game the time and effort that it deserves.

BSS_CUDA
12-23-2008, 05:22 PM
you should really be asking yourself.

How many Ace's were there in WW2 and how many dead pilots.

this "game" mimics RL in many aspects, Inc your K/D ratio

Hookecho
12-24-2008, 07:02 AM
I'd say having more kills than deaths would be better, but thats just me....

Crazy_Goanna
12-24-2008, 07:36 AM
Don't worry or get ego proud on kills the aim of this sim, and life in general is to have as much fun as possible--so enjoy yourself and don't worry about the arbitrary counts.

FoolTrottel
12-24-2008, 07:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Crazy_Goanna:
Don't worry or get ego proud on kills the aim of this sim, and life in general is to have as much fun as possible--so enjoy yourself and don't worry about the arbitrary counts. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Xiolablu3
12-24-2008, 12:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FoolTrottel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Crazy_Goanna:
Don't worry or get ego proud on kills the aim of this sim, and life in general is to have as much fun as possible--so enjoy yourself and don't worry about the arbitrary counts. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Divine-Wind
12-24-2008, 02:05 PM
Been playing since the original and the best I can do on average is 1:5. But!!!! I always have a buttload of fun racking that up.

Fun is the important thing.

WeedEater9p
12-24-2008, 07:43 PM
Bomber pilots usually don't get good A2A K/D ratio's. (Unless you want a shooting match with my "super gunners"). Although your A2G K/D should be way higher then 1:1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Yeah we need more ground attack pilots then movie stars. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

VW-IceFire
12-24-2008, 08:12 PM
Depends on the server, the plane, and your objective as a pilot. For instance these days I'm more interested in my groundkill to death ratio than my (air) kill to death ratio. I'm enjoying mud moving more than fighter combat now...although I still hop in and do that too when I feel like it.

The secret with the ground attacks is to have a very high ratio because you always manage to come home. Thats hard with defending fighters, flak, and the inevitable collision if your a low level down in the weeds sort of fighter-bomber pilot like I am http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif