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LeadSpitter_
11-08-2005, 02:41 AM
Please Make AI aircraft flyable with no cockpit view before this sim is over, I enjoy fr most however its something many of the community have ask the 1c team to improve the experience of this game both on and offline.

If all ai were flyable from no cockpit view it would not effect the online games at all becuase its a host choice of aircraft so no one should be against this.

I hate to say it but the majority of online players fly the unlocked pit, externals on padlock settings and this would benefit them most.

For those who enjoy the fr servers I would not mind at all if the carrier based torpedo bombers had no cockpit view or some heavy bombers, its a disadvantage flying them enough.

So one last hope for all ai to become flyable from internal view with no 3d cockpit, leave it up to the hosts to decide. You should no have to worry about fms since you said ai fms are the same as human ones' well 4.01 anyways where ai were easier to kill but at least they didnt glitch around so much like they do no in past patchs and 3.04 which seem identical to 4.02

So 1c team please consider this before BOB. You said no to muzzle flashes being changed a bunch of times but finally gave in so please give in with your decision not to make all ais non flyable from nocockpit view. Its a complete waste of fantastic looking models to have them as only ai.

S

Diablo310th
11-08-2005, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Please Make AI aircraft flyable with no cockpit view before this sim is over, I enjoy fr most however its something many of the community have ask the 1c team to improve the experience of this game both on and offline.

If all ai were flyable from no cockpit view it would not effect the online games at all becuase its a host choice of aircraft so no one should be against this.

I hate to say it but the majority of online players fly the unlocked pit, externals on padlock settings and this would benefit them most.

For those who enjoy the fr servers I would not mind at all if the carrier based torpedo bombers had no cockpit view or some heavy bombers, its a disadvantage flying them enough.

So one last hope for all ai to become flyable from internal view with no 3d cockpit, leave it up to the hosts to decide. You should no have to worry about fms since you said ai fms are the same as human ones' well 4.01 anyways where ai were easier to kill but at least they didnt glitch around so much like they do no in past patchs and 3.04 which seem identical to 4.02

So 1c team please consider this before BOB. You said no to muzzle flashes being changed a bunch of times but finally gave in so please give in with your decision not to make all ais non flyable from nocockpit view. Its a complete waste of fantastic looking models to have them as only ai.

S

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif I'm with you on this LS. At least then people could fly some heavies and that would make high alt. fighting more common and fun. I would lvoe to do high alt. escort of the heavies on WC.

marmossel
11-08-2005, 06:28 AM
I'm for this too. Maybe even with the option for a generic cockpit for fighters/bombers/torpedo planes, or even assigning any of the already existing cockpits to them.

But even without any kind of cockpit would still be better than not at all, never ever.

Pretty please!

LEXX_Luthor
11-08-2005, 06:49 AM
Only for the big bombers. Even this I can Vote for out of Compassion and Tolerance for the misery called Online Dogfight.

sparty7200
11-08-2005, 07:29 AM
I ALWAYS take the opportunity to try out the non flyables online !it's still the same fun and increases the immersion...least for me anyway so ...BUMP!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

crazyivan1970
11-08-2005, 09:59 AM
You didn`t like this thread LS? http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/8661049373 it`s about the same issue http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VFA-25_Peckens
11-08-2005, 02:36 PM
how about a 2d cockpit that wouldnt be hard

Daiichidoku
11-08-2005, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
You didn`t like this thread LS? http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/8661049373 it`s about the same issue http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


dunno what time zone your in, Ivan, but i have the feeling ya JUST beat me to it, eheheh


BTW, I did make the same thread also in GD and PF forums, perhaps you good folks out there...errr...you folks out there care to cast a vote in each, as well as your surely deep thoughts on the matter

VF-17_DWolf
11-08-2005, 06:54 PM
If any thing at least a Bomb-Site, Shift+F1,from external view, so we can hit what we're trying to bomb from 15,000' to 20,000'.

Someone figured out how to fly a AI from external view. Maybe that same someone can figure out how to make a Bomb-site view work, for the AI Bomber's.

That would be GREAT.

VF-17_DWolf

LeadSpitter_
11-08-2005, 09:29 PM
I missed that one ivan, I just read some of the 190 whine threads then posted this. I dont want just bombers but think all ai craft flyable from internal no cockpit view. Leave it up to the host to lock and unlock aircraft.Now you can scroll thru all my posts and see who had the idea first if you want to be like that. Man these forums even turned you into a troll ivan. Change Ubi dont let ubi change you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Daiichidoku
11-08-2005, 11:04 PM
its not about whos first, its about not making redundant threads

probably many, many ppl have had these ideas for years now

all that matter is the possibility of getting AIs flyable (with or without gunner stations)somehow or another, before its too latehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

crazyivan1970
11-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
I missed that one ivan, I just read some of the 190 whine threads then posted this. I dont want just bombers but think all ai craft flyable from internal no cockpit view. Leave it up to the host to lock and unlock aircraft.Now you can scroll thru all my posts and see who had the idea first if you want to be like that. Man these forums even turned you into a troll ivan. Change Ubi dont let ubi change you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

You know Lead...if anyone else would call me a troll...i`d think about it...but you...ahem http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

TAGERT.
11-09-2005, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Please Make AI aircraft flyable with no cockpit view before this sim is over, I enjoy fr most however its something many of the community have ask the 1c team to improve the experience of this game both on and offline.

If all ai were flyable from no cockpit view it would not effect the online games at all becuase its a host choice of aircraft so no one should be against this.

I hate to say it but the majority of online players fly the unlocked pit, externals on padlock settings and this would benefit them most.

For those who enjoy the fr servers I would not mind at all if the carrier based torpedo bombers had no cockpit view or some heavy bombers, its a disadvantage flying them enough.

So one last hope for all ai to become flyable from internal view with no 3d cockpit, leave it up to the hosts to decide. You should no have to worry about fms since you said ai fms are the same as human ones' well 4.01 anyways where ai were easier to kill but at least they didnt glitch around so much like they do no in past patchs and 3.04 which seem identical to 4.02

So 1c team please consider this before BOB. You said no to muzzle flashes being changed a bunch of times but finally gave in so please give in with your decision not to make all ais non flyable from nocockpit view. Its a complete waste of fantastic looking models to have them as only ai.

S Agreed 100%! Espically for the bombers! Dont need to jump to the gun positions, just a generic bomb sight would be great. The WW view for a bomber is actully a good thing imho in that it simulates the fact that you have a crew that is seeing all angles. Sadly, this will never happen, Oleg has ignored us on this simple request since version 1.0! But, good ideas like this, it does not hurt to keep on asking imho.

CaptJodan
11-09-2005, 08:08 PM
Seeing the previous threads on this issue it doesn't look like it will happen.

But I sure wish it would. IL-2 has an amazing set of aircraft you can hardly get anywhere else, and I've always preferred it's graphics and (here's a major one) STABILITY to Microsoft's previous products. When BOB comes out, it'll be back to square one with the number of planes flyable. Given I doubt much work will continue on IL-2 at that point, I really don't understand the reason not to associate similar pits with AI craft, or just unlocking them so we can play them without the pit. Servers can ban them if they're realism fanatics, and those who play exclusively offline can either download or not.

I just never understood who this would hurt.

Daiichidoku
11-09-2005, 10:36 PM
add your vote here

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/8661049373

dog-of-war
11-11-2005, 12:50 PM
explain how to fly ai from external view. does this work offline / or online

Grey_Mouser67
11-11-2005, 04:47 PM
If I were building a sim...I would not have AI at all...not allowed! Now that would be setting a standard.

Aircraft would have levels of completion....first level would be no cockpit view/generic bombsight, second level would be complete pit but maybe ahistoric or not all gunstations modelled, 3rd level would be complete aircraft....this would allow for the inclusion of many new aircraft with little work and allow third party modellers to actually take on a project like a B-17 without having to do ALL the gunstations!

The only downsides to this are that Oleg would have to find code to disallow these aircraft on cockpit on servers and he'd have to really tune FM's and DM's of these aircraft...more programming!

Oleg, if you are reading this...you could release a new update/patch with all these aircraft as flyable...imagine the press and maybe even the revenue you could generate...I'd pay to fly a Blenheim, Mc202, B-29...one of the B-25 Gunships...how about the upcoming Mosquito BV IV or the Spit Mk XIV could be included....wow what a sim it would be! It is already good, but more aircraft are better than fewer...be sure

Badsight.
11-11-2005, 06:30 PM
the Pe-8 , with that 5000 lb-er is fun

oh yes it is http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Vipez-
11-14-2005, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Badsight.:
the Pe-8 , with that 5000 lb-er is fun

oh yes it is http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Except its 5000 kg, not lb :P (even more fun)

For once I agree with L$.. S! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

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Viper2005_
11-14-2005, 02:46 PM
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