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JV44Rall
03-05-2005, 04:55 PM
I'm reading Tumult in the Clouds, by James Goodson. It's a pretty fine book and contains many first hand accounts of dogfights (Goodson flew Hurris, Spits, Jugs and Mustangs) and lesser known aces.

I thought this was of particular interest:

Then I saw two FW 190s closing on him. By this time we were above the Fortress, so we were able to pull in behind and dive in to come up behind the two Germans. I selected one, but before I could close, he flipped into a tight break. I immediately followed - but maybe not quite fast or tight enough. It had been a long time since a German fighter had stayed around for a dogfight, and we believed the P-51 could out-turn the 190 anyway. That day I learned the hard way. I suddenly realized the 190 was gaining on me in the turn. And yet I was fighting it around as tight as I could. The gravity was pulling my oxygen mask down from my nose. My breath was coming in gasps and gulps and still that spinner of the sinister 190 crept up. I thought he must have enough deflection to hit me and I pulled tighter and felt my plane judder and buck on the edge of a stall. He was firing now and would soon be hitting. In my moment of need, I dropped my right hand to the flap lever beside me and dropped just a few degrees of flap. Miraculously the plane stopped its bucking and I pulled out of the line of fire. Immediately the 190 dived for the deck in the usual Luftwaffe evasive action and I was after him.

Well after the war, Goodson reads of Galland's account of a similar dogfight in the same area and leaves it to the reader to draw the conclusion.

JV44Rall
03-05-2005, 04:55 PM
I'm reading Tumult in the Clouds, by James Goodson. It's a pretty fine book and contains many first hand accounts of dogfights (Goodson flew Hurris, Spits, Jugs and Mustangs) and lesser known aces.

I thought this was of particular interest:

Then I saw two FW 190s closing on him. By this time we were above the Fortress, so we were able to pull in behind and dive in to come up behind the two Germans. I selected one, but before I could close, he flipped into a tight break. I immediately followed - but maybe not quite fast or tight enough. It had been a long time since a German fighter had stayed around for a dogfight, and we believed the P-51 could out-turn the 190 anyway. That day I learned the hard way. I suddenly realized the 190 was gaining on me in the turn. And yet I was fighting it around as tight as I could. The gravity was pulling my oxygen mask down from my nose. My breath was coming in gasps and gulps and still that spinner of the sinister 190 crept up. I thought he must have enough deflection to hit me and I pulled tighter and felt my plane judder and buck on the edge of a stall. He was firing now and would soon be hitting. In my moment of need, I dropped my right hand to the flap lever beside me and dropped just a few degrees of flap. Miraculously the plane stopped its bucking and I pulled out of the line of fire. Immediately the 190 dived for the deck in the usual Luftwaffe evasive action and I was after him.

Well after the war, Goodson reads of Galland's account of a similar dogfight in the same area and leaves it to the reader to draw the conclusion.

F0_Dark_P
03-05-2005, 05:05 PM
nice, maybee a book to look for http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Airmail109
03-05-2005, 05:06 PM
I recomend it as well!!! Very good book!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

MEGILE
03-05-2005, 05:08 PM
Aimail.. not been on HL for a long time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

p1ngu666
03-05-2005, 05:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Megile:
Aimail.. not been on HL for a long time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

think ive seen him on

nice quote http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif