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Wolfen_U232
12-28-2006, 07:33 PM
Nice game.. Just a couple things.

1. I can not seem to be able to drop the (Center) hardpoints bomb. The bombs on the wings go but not the center. The B25 does not have this issue. Only when there are 2 different kinds of bombs.

IE.. Wings 250lb bomb and 500lb bomb under the belly.

2. Why is the B25 STILL the only plane you can drop torpedos with? Why is there STILL no Heavy bombers? Why is there STILL no torpedo planes?

Other then that i like the game..

P.s Can s

Akronnick
12-28-2006, 08:09 PM
1) Check that you don't have Unlimited Ammo set in difficulty settings.

2) A-20, He-111, Il-2T, G4M?

3) We like the closed flight model. It keeps everyone on one version of the game, and prevents, ahh..., improvements from every yahoo who thinks his ride is porked...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

---Loose nut removed from cockpit, ship OK

Tully__
12-28-2006, 08:19 PM
Akronnick has adequately covered 1. & 2.
For 3. the developer made a conscious decision based on his experience flying othe sims where you can import aircraft. Because of the disruption that occurs in an online community caused by disputes over the addition of aircraft with disputed performance characteristics this has not been catered for in the current game series.

In view of further discussion by the community a halfway position has been adobpted for the next game series (not compatible with the current set, first installment expected late next year). In the Storm of War series there will be "official" servers using only the standard map/plane set and "open" servers which may have community made aircraft and maps added but will be restricted to a limited map size. Offline only players will be able to import any aircraft they like.

Meanwhile we have a game that at current count has well over 200 aircraft variants included as player flyable in a single box, compared to only 20-30 for the most extensive of the other games/sims.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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claypidgon
12-28-2006, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Wolfen_U232:
Nice game.. Just a couple things.

1. I can not seem to be able to drop the (Center) hardpoints bomb. The bombs on the wings go but not the center. The B25 does not have this issue. Only when there are 2 different kinds of bombs.

IE.. Wings 250lb bomb and 500lb bomb under the belly.

>>>>>>>>>2. Why is the B25 STILL the only plane you can drop torpedos with? Why is there STILL no >Heavy bombers?< Why is there STILL no torpedo planes?<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Other then that i like the game..

P.s Can someone confirm to me that you can not import aircraft. And if so Why the heck not.

Thanks
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted Dec 28, 7:09 PM Hide Post
1) Check that you don't have Unlimited Ammo set in difficulty settings.

>>>>>>>>>2) A-20, He-111, Il-2T, G4M?<<<<<<<<<<

3) We like the closed flight model. It keeps everyone on one version of the game, and prevents, ahh..., improvements from every yahoo who thinks his ride is porked...

---Loose nut removed from cockpit, sh

Those are NOT heavy bombers mate!!!!!!

Akronnick
12-28-2006, 08:24 PM
We don't have flyable heavy bombers for the same reason we don't have flyable battlships.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

---Loose nut removed from cockpit, ship OK

PraetorHonoris
12-28-2006, 08:25 PM
Those are torpedo bombers, however, which were in question. And let's not forget the Beaufighter, also a torpedo bomber if wanted.

As for the heavy bombers, check the list. There is one with several subversions. In general, this topic has been done to death already at least a hundred times. There is not much in a heavy bomber you could not do with a medium (gun stations, bomb-sight, nav etc.) while the maps are too small for the heavies to benefit. Moreover, the work load creating and implementing such a bomber is enormous.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Wolfen_U232
12-28-2006, 08:27 PM
Well thanks guys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Just a couple side points

While i compleatly understand the need to prevent.. Lets say unsavery people from entroducing super planes. I for one never will play this game online. Nor did i want to.

Personaly i just want to bomb/torpedo the beep out of ships. Hehe

"3) We like the closed flight model. It keeps everyone on one version of the game, and prevents, ahh..., improvements from every yahoo who thinks his ride is porked..."
What about those of us who do not care about what version we run?

This could be easily taken care of with a simple hash check. Ie noone could join your server etc without having the same version/files etc. (Quite simple)

Well anyways thank you guys for answering this question for me.

Cheers

Edit.. Basicaly my point is this.. There are plenty of planes in this game yes.. BUT there are some VERRY important planes that the devs repeatedly seem to ignore for this series.

This topic may have been "Done before" for FB/Etc but that does not make it any the less important. This "1946" is suposed to be all of them put together.

I would much rather have seen Real torpedo/Bombers/etc placed in this game then planes that never really saw combat..

Once again thank you for answering my questions.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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VW-IceFire
12-28-2006, 10:02 PM
Wolfen...what you're asking for is already in the process of being implemented. But not for this series. Storm of War is going to have two modes, one which will lock down the content and preserve the integrity of online play (believe me, I've seen games where this was not done, it wasn't pretty), the second which will have a "sandbox" that you can play in and do whatever you want to it.

As for torpedo bombers...the B-25 does not carry a torpedo, but the A-20G, A-20C, He-111H-6, Beaufighter Mark 21, IL-2T, and G4M Betty all do carry torpedoes. Blowing up ships is quite fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Phil_C
12-29-2006, 04:24 AM
As for torpedo bombers...the B-25 does not carry a torpedo, but the A-20G, A-20C, He-111H-6, Beaufighter Mark 21, IL-2T, and G4M Betty all do carry torpedoes. Blowing up ships is quite fun


You dont need a torpedo if you can skip bomb... and that is a ton of fun to learn how to do http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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XyZspineZyX
12-29-2006, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by Wolfen_U232:
Well thanks guys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Just a couple side points

While i compleatly understand the need to prevent.. Lets say unsavery people from entroducing super planes. I for one never will play this game online. Nor did i want to.

Personaly i just want to bomb/torpedo the beep out of ships. Hehe

"3) We like the closed flight model. It keeps everyone on one version of the game, and prevents, ahh..., improvements from every yahoo who thinks his ride is porked..."
What about those of us who do not care about what version we run?

This could be easily taken care of with a simple hash check. Ie noone could join your server etc without having the same version/files etc. (Quite simple)

Well anyways thank you guys for answering this question for me.

Cheers

Edit.. Basicaly my point is this.. There are plenty of planes in this game yes.. BUT there are some VERRY important planes that the devs repeatedly seem to ignore for this series.

This topic may have been "Done before" for FB/Etc but that does not make it any the less important. This "1946" is suposed to be all of them put together.

I would much rather have seen Real torpedo/Bombers/etc placed in this game then planes that never really saw combat..

Once again thank you for answering my questions.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You already cannot join a server that has a different version as you. It is in fact quite simple, and we already have it

The planes were not 'ignored'. You are assuming, as many people do, that there is a list of planes, and the developers are assigned aircraft based on a priority for need or importance. Planes that never flew did not "bump" more important planes off the "list". Many players think this is how things work, and it's not. They think there are say 10 'spots' for new aircraft, and for example three get 'wasted' on 'unimportant' planes. It's not true though. Many planes got made because the developers wanted to make them, simple as that

Also, you are making the mistake of thinking that this is a cut and dried issue of people not wanting to make certain other planes. Certain planes were made obviously, and legal issues prevented their use as flyable- but quite obviously, they are in the game, they just aren't flyable

Many many players think they 'know' what happened concerning that problem. About 99% don't, and will give the "mob mentality version". Nobody really knows for certain what specifically happened. However I feel I have a pretty good handle on that situation in general and what happened (in general), as I have worked in the industry (not video games) for a while. PM me and I will explain

By the way, the Il2 T can carry a torpedo as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif and you can fly it<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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FOKite
12-29-2006, 05:45 AM
Well the TB3 and the PE8 look pretty heavy to me.................. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Skycat_2
12-29-2006, 11:41 AM
Try the Tiny Tims on the F4U ... They're much more fun than a torpedo.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Xiolablu3
12-29-2006, 12:20 PM
YOu should DEFINITELY play the game online, its like offline but with 10 times the fun.

If you dont then you are missing out on 75% of the game.

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