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d0mbo
09-09-2005, 12:04 PM
Here i am, with my pimped VII-B, march 1942, 14th patrol. Suddenly it strikes me i havent seen a single plane during all of my patrols so far. I even sunk an escort-carrier in my tenth patrol. No planes back then too (although it was at night, its aircraft would have most likely spotted me the day before?)

Does time still have to progress more, or is something wrong with my game? (RuB 1.43 installed)

paulhager
09-09-2005, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by d0mbo:
Here i am, with my pimped VII-B, march 1942, 14th patrol. Suddenly it strikes me i havent seen a single plane during all of my patrols so far. I even sunk an escort-carrier in my tenth patrol. No planes back then too (although it was at night, its aircraft would have most likely spotted me the day before?)

Does time still have to progress more, or is something wrong with my game? (RuB 1.43 installed)

Since I'm not running RuB 1.43, my experience may be irrelevant. However, in my current career (now early 1944), I managed to avoid aircraft through early 1942, which changed when I transferred to the Med. Then I saw a lot of them - mostly Axis at the start. Saw Hurricanes out of Malta and was bombed and nearly "killed" by Sunderlands out of Egypt. Since then, I've seen lots of planes. For example, got attacked by B-24s in the middle of the night north of Curacao after I sent a contact message to BdU.

In one of my earlier careers I encounted a British aircraft in 1939 and was attacked in early 1940 by a Swordfish beyond the radius of land-based air. Never figured out whether the latter attack was a glitch or there was a CV nearby.

My guess is that the right pseudo-random number hasn't come up yet. If you want to see lots of planes, run with your radar on inside allied aircover. Be ready to crash dive.

kimwh
09-09-2005, 12:57 PM
I also noticed that planes tend to attack more likely close to land (just off shore) - allied held of course. I suspect this is related to the fuel range of the planes running sorties.

The_Silent_O
09-09-2005, 01:18 PM
if you are playing the unmodded version, the supplied foldout map is pretty accurate. It shows the increasing air coverage with the year.

When I go out, I try to stay outside the allied air "umbrellas"

What's more scary than the aircraft attacking you is a big flaming sunderland, out of control, heading for your conning tower...I've been taken out by one already. First I get the "FlaK gun destroyed" followed quickly by the death screen!

Goosen83
09-09-2005, 01:21 PM
Well, I'm in '44 now and the Allies just keep showing off with all their Sunderlands, Liberators etc. The smallest amount at one time in the last couple of patrols have been 6. God bless RWR!

horribleron
09-09-2005, 06:02 PM
I didn't see many planes early in the war except for Hurricanes and Swordfish and only within 200 kilometers of the England. By 1942 though, Sunderlands will start showing up much farther from land. By 1943 all hell breaks loose when the allies get plane bases in the Azores, Iceland, and get B-24's. I'm in October 1943 now and it is very hard to cross the pond without getting pounced on every hour. In fact, at the beginning of my current mission I got attacked by B-24's inside the Loriant inlet trying to leave base! They trashed my boat pretty badly and I had to go back for repairs. I recommend leaving base at night and running at flank speed until you get to deep enough water to dive.

Horribleron

Bubblehead1948
09-09-2005, 06:17 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Oh yeah; trust me... you'll see planes. Be patient.

panthercules
09-09-2005, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Bubblehead1948:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Oh yeah; trust me... you'll see planes. Be patient.

LOL - yeah - I'm surprised you haven't seen them yet - after the untimely loss of my first sub (a Type IX off of New York in Jan '42), I'm now off the East coast of England on my second patrol in my Type IIA in November '39 and have already been chased down by airplanes at least 4 times so far.

Before I made my fateful voyage over to New York with my Type IX, I got chased down quite often by planes just west of Gibralter and along the northwestern portions of the Bay of Biscay.

In all of the above I was running with RUB 1.43. So hang in there - they're out there waiting for you somewhere.

Hawggy
09-09-2005, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Bubblehead1948:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Oh yeah; trust me... you'll see planes.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif You'll FEAR planes!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Cpt.Thorne
09-09-2005, 09:22 PM
My U-boat has been harassed by planes ever since 1942 began...your post didn´t tell where your base is but I can guaranteee that bay of Biscay is swarming with sunderlans not a day goes by that those horrible vultures wown´t show...now sept. 1942 just barely made it to port as the last attack occurred right on the opening towards Brest about 50km off base...shallow water periscope depth...not a good hidingplace http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

You´ll see them...and I hope you make it back to tell us about it...too many souls have gone to the cold grave already http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
Cpt.Thorne

Chrystine
09-09-2005, 09:24 PM
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http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ..No doubt about it €¦

They€ll come a€plenty €¦

( For the fun ..! )

€˜Sometimes in numbers even the Allies can€t handle €¦€

http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/More_than_Enough.jpg

You may well get used to this sort of view before long€¦

€˜Give €˜em hell boys!€

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Heart sinking faster than the boat €¦
€˜From bad to worse €¦€

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Cheers!
~ C.

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d0mbo
09-10-2005, 01:08 AM
Well thanks for all the replies http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I think i'll have to do a few more patrols to be certain about the airplanes showing up. It's just that i can cruise pretty close to England and south-east of ireland without ever being attacked (apart from those lonely DD's and DDE's roaming about).

I'm stationed in the bay of Biscay, St. Nazaire is the one if i remeber correctly.

I'll think i'll use that first generation radar to attract soem action, just to be sure.

Isnt that radar pretty worthless BTW? -10 to +10 degrees coverage? I havent installed it because of that. But i think i'll install it now.

Other strange thing i have noticed: i get equiped with the first acoustic torpedo in one of the stern tubes. It's only early 1942. Is this correct? (it's that horrible slow torpedo that...well.... runs at 20 knots. My VIIB can even outrun it at flank speed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

KZS_Tartarus
09-10-2005, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by d0mbo:
I'll think i'll use that first generation radar to attract soem action, just to be sure.

Isnt that radar pretty worthless BTW? -10 to +10 degrees coverage? I havent installed it because of that. But i think i'll install it now.


Your mileage may vary... But I love that radar! It is rarely of any use for initial detection of something you have no clue is out there (but it can happen), but it is great when searching for and 'getting a good look at' a convoy you've got a contact report about; the extra range over visual sighting is really useful in that situation. I've also used it for 'blind' torpedo attacks in heavy fog, with good results.

Funny thing is, so far (but I'm just in Nov. '42), I have not had any indication that the allies can detect that radar... But my wife believes Liberators can do it later on. There were some allied radar warning recivers and ELINT gear (Boozer, Ping Pong, Serrate, S-27, XARD, and so on), but my understanding is that most of that gear was either not aimed at finding U-boat radars, or was more used for intelligence collection rather than weapons targetting.

As far as I have understood, U-boat captains were initially reluctant to use radar, due to their fear of it being intercepted. Later in the war, after '44, after finding out this was not much of a problem, they'd make more use of their radar.

EDITED to add: Someone might find this link interesting:
http://www.vectorsite.net/ttwiz.html


Best,
- B